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May 12, 2023, 12:08:13 PM
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Kambosos is easy to read because he is not a technical boxer, but Loma, who has been in this industry for a while, possesses the experience that will be advantageous against him. This matchup is undoubtedly thrilling, with Haney being the favorite while Loma aims to prove himself, as some perceive him to be past his prime. While we cannot predict the outcome of this fight, I personally like to bet on the underdog.

This fight should not be like that of Kambosos because we know how Loma can throw punches from multiple angles and also he has the speed and power compared to Haney's last opponent. By the way, both of them have a chance to prove their worthiness right here and this fight might gonna be Loma's last one if he will be beaten hard and Haney should not slack off either because it could be a career destroyer for him if he is knocked out and his weakness will appear after that just like Amir Khan.

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May 12, 2023, 01:15:49 PM
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So let's see if he can defeat Loma first, this is not going to be easy fight for him. Unlike in the Kambosos fight wherein he was able to break in George early, here Loma is equal or more boxing IQ than him and so as others said, this could be like a chess match wherein it's going to be a thinking game.

Kambosos is easy to read because he is not a technical boxer, but Loma, who has been in this industry for a while, possesses the experience that will be advantageous against him. This matchup is undoubtedly thrilling, with Haney being the favorite while Loma aims to prove himself, as some perceive him to be past his prime. While we cannot predict the outcome of this fight, I personally like to bet on the underdog.
Yes, if you count his amateur background, he has been in boxing for many years now and that's why he was able to built that much experience in the ring and become more technical as years goes by and thru the training that his father has given him.

As compare to George, who is much a brawler, and this could be the style that Haney can really match his skills. But this time, the fighter that he is facing is more skilled and experience but one thing that goes with Devin is that he is young and full of confident and maybe in his prime already. So this fight is really hard to see who is going to win and maybe I would say that there are bettors who's leaning toward Loma here.

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May 12, 2023, 08:18:31 PM
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Kambosos is easy to read because he is not a technical boxer, but Loma, who has been in this industry for a while, possesses the experience that will be advantageous against him. This matchup is undoubtedly thrilling, with Haney being the favorite while Loma aims to prove himself, as some perceive him to be past his prime. While we cannot predict the outcome of this fight, I personally like to bet on the underdog.

This fight should not be like that of Kambosos because we know how Loma can throw punches from multiple angles and also he has the speed and power compared to Haney's last opponent. By the way, both of them have a chance to prove their worthiness right here and this fight might gonna be Loma's last one if he will be beaten hard and Haney should not slack off either because it could be a career destroyer for him if he is knocked out and his weakness will appear after that just like Amir Khan.

Both of them knows their consequences well if they will be defeated in this bout but if ever the fight is just close one, I guess a rematch might surface afterwards and the hype will start calling for it too knowing that Haney and Loma got their own fan bases. But if it's just a one sided fight, both of them will have a career ending because both of them might have to start from the scratch to earn their place.

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May 14, 2023, 11:41:31 AM
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Kambosos is easy to read because he is not a technical boxer, but Loma, who has been in this industry for a while, possesses the experience that will be advantageous against him. This matchup is undoubtedly thrilling, with Haney being the favorite while Loma aims to prove himself, as some perceive him to be past his prime. While we cannot predict the outcome of this fight, I personally like to bet on the underdog.

This fight should not be like that of Kambosos because we know how Loma can throw punches from multiple angles and also he has the speed and power compared to Haney's last opponent. By the way, both of them have a chance to prove their worthiness right here and this fight might gonna be Loma's last one if he will be beaten hard and Haney should not slack off either because it could be a career destroyer for him if he is knocked out and his weakness will appear after that just like Amir Khan.

Both of them knows their consequences well if they will be defeated in this bout but if ever the fight is just close one, I guess a rematch might surface afterwards and the hype will start calling for it too knowing that Haney and Loma got their own fan bases. But if it's just a one sided fight, both of them will have a career ending because both of them might have to start from the scratch to earn their place.

Sure, but this boxers are elite and so the risk is worth taking for them, imagine if Haney won, it will cement his legacy as undisputed champion. As for Loma, if he wins then his life long dreams of being a undisputed champion. So that is already a risk that they are willing to take for the sake of their careers.

I heard interviews though that the the Father of Haney approaches the manager of Loma 4 years ago and asking if they can have a fight. But the camp of Loma says that Haney that time is relatively unknown. Past forward 4 years, now Haney is the champion and so this fight will have to be made.
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May 14, 2023, 12:19:51 PM
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i feel that Devin Haney is entering his prime. even though he is entering his prime, i do not trust his power yet, he still has a lot to prove.
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May 14, 2023, 04:35:44 PM
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Kambosos is easy to read because he is not a technical boxer, but Loma, who has been in this industry for a while, possesses the experience that will be advantageous against him. This matchup is undoubtedly thrilling, with Haney being the favorite while Loma aims to prove himself, as some perceive him to be past his prime. While we cannot predict the outcome of this fight, I personally like to bet on the underdog.

This fight should not be like that of Kambosos because we know how Loma can throw punches from multiple angles and also he has the speed and power compared to Haney's last opponent. By the way, both of them have a chance to prove their worthiness right here and this fight might gonna be Loma's last one if he will be beaten hard and Haney should not slack off either because it could be a career destroyer for him if he is knocked out and his weakness will appear after that just like Amir Khan.

Both of them knows their consequences well if they will be defeated in this bout but if ever the fight is just close one, I guess a rematch might surface afterwards and the hype will start calling for it too knowing that Haney and Loma got their own fan bases. But if it's just a one sided fight, both of them will have a career ending because both of them might have to start from the scratch to earn their place.

Sure, but this boxers are elite and so the risk is worth taking for them, imagine if Haney won, it will cement his legacy as undisputed champion. As for Loma, if he wins then his life long dreams of being a undisputed champion. So that is already a risk that they are willing to take for the sake of their careers.

I heard interviews though that the the Father of Haney approaches the manager of Loma 4 years ago and asking if they can have a fight. But the camp of Loma says that Haney that time is relatively unknown. Past forward 4 years, now Haney is the champion and so this fight will have to be made.

Can't blame Lomachenko if he denied Haney and his father that fight because back at that time, the latter was a nameless boxer and don't have any good names in his career while Loma is looking forward to be the undisputed boxer, so it's reasonable that Loma didn't entertain Haney is that will not give him any benefit. Little did we know, the tables will turn four years after and it's now Loma seeking for Haney.

Few days more to go.

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May 14, 2023, 05:17:12 PM
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Kambosos is easy to read because he is not a technical boxer, but Loma, who has been in this industry for a while, possesses the experience that will be advantageous against him. This matchup is undoubtedly thrilling, with Haney being the favorite while Loma aims to prove himself, as some perceive him to be past his prime. While we cannot predict the outcome of this fight, I personally like to bet on the underdog.

This fight should not be like that of Kambosos because we know how Loma can throw punches from multiple angles and also he has the speed and power compared to Haney's last opponent. By the way, both of them have a chance to prove their worthiness right here and this fight might gonna be Loma's last one if he will be beaten hard and Haney should not slack off either because it could be a career destroyer for him if he is knocked out and his weakness will appear after that just like Amir Khan.

I sure do hope that it is still the case of Lomachenko where he can definitely give any other opponent some hardships in the middle of the fight from reading his movements as he will be hard to guard from throwing serious punches in multiple angles, other than that, his defense is also hard to penetrate which makes him almost invulnerable from the heavy punches. This will be interesting because people are still looking forward to see Loma's old form which I think we will as he himself know that he didn't have a good performance in his return.

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May 15, 2023, 06:52:57 AM
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i feel that Devin Haney is entering his prime. even though he is entering his prime, i do not trust his power yet, he still has a lot to prove.

I very much agree. This is why the odds for over 10.5 rounds is only 1.17 hehe. However, despite not having the power, Haney is faster, he has an improved philly shell defense and he is very intelligent. I reckon after his first fight vs. Kambosos in Australia, he also has shown that as a fighter, he is fully grown already. I am not certain if this will be a dominating performance for Haney but I would not be shocked if it ended with a dominant win him.

In any case, Tank Davis should fight Haney hehehee. Tank has already left Mayweather's gym where he trained with Haney. Boxing experts say Haney loses vs. Tank in their sparring sessions.

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May 15, 2023, 11:21:34 AM
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i feel that Devin Haney is entering his prime. even though he is entering his prime, i do not trust his power yet, he still has a lot to prove.

I very much agree. This is why the odds for over 10.5 rounds is only 1.17 hehe. However, despite not having the power, Haney is faster, he has an improved philly shell defense and he is very intelligent. I reckon after his first fight vs. Kambosos in Australia, he also has shown that as a fighter, he is fully grown already. I am not certain if this will be a dominating performance for Haney but I would not be shocked if it ended with a dominant win him.

In any case, Tank Davis should fight Haney hehehee. Tank has already left Mayweather's gym where he trained with Haney. Boxing experts say Haney loses vs. Tank in their sparring sessions.
We should know by now that Devin Haney is not a knockout artist, he might be entering his prime though, I agree with that, but I'm not seeing him proving anything as far as his power goes. You can't teach it in the gym, either you have it or not. And another weakness of Haney is that he has a weak chin, he has been hit got wobbled throughout his career.

So with his lack of power, he make it up with this good boxing IQ and defense. That's why even though he has been hurt before, he was able to get back and beat his opponent through decisions.

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May 16, 2023, 12:00:01 PM
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i feel that Devin Haney is entering his prime. even though he is entering his prime, i do not trust his power yet, he still has a lot to prove.

A lot to prove indeed. Haney is one hell of a lucky guy, he got those belts without exerting too much effort, I mean beating Kambosos for those belts was not the way the boxing community want for Haney but it is what it is and now is the time for him to prove that he belongs in the top by beating Loma (the real champion for me) convincingly for him to earn the respect of the boxing fanatics.

This is going to be a very technical fight but not boring though because Loma loves to attack and I hope he will be aggressive early on to compile points as a knockout is a slim possibility in this matchup.

Fives days more to go, still got Loma in my mind to win this match  Cool.

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May 16, 2023, 12:25:24 PM
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i feel that Devin Haney is entering his prime. even though he is entering his prime, i do not trust his power yet, he still has a lot to prove.

A lot to prove indeed. Haney is one hell of a lucky guy, he got those belts without exerting too much effort, I mean beating Kambosos for those belts was not the way the boxing community want for Haney but it is what it is and now is the time for him to prove that he belongs in the top by beating Loma (the real champion for me) convincingly for him to earn the respect of the boxing fanatics.

This is going to be a very technical fight but not boring though because Loma loves to attack and I hope he will be aggressive early on to compile points as a knockout is a slim possibility in this matchup.

Fives days more to go, still got Loma in my mind to win this match  Cool.

Same here, I believe Loma will win, and I'm happy about that because he is the underdog, which means betting on him to win would be profitable. Meanwhile, Haney has to prove that he can defeat a highly technical fighter. The same challenge applies to Loma as people believe he is past his prime.

This fight is like a chess match, making it difficult to predict the winner. As you mentioned, it's a technical fight, but it's not boring, so I can't wait to see this match.

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May 16, 2023, 09:38:15 PM
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i feel that Devin Haney is entering his prime. even though he is entering his prime, i do not trust his power yet, he still has a lot to prove.

A lot to prove indeed. Haney is one hell of a lucky guy, he got those belts without exerting too much effort, I mean beating Kambosos for those belts was not the way the boxing community want for Haney but it is what it is and now is the time for him to prove that he belongs in the top by beating Loma (the real champion for me) convincingly for him to earn the respect of the boxing fanatics.

This is going to be a very technical fight but not boring though because Loma loves to attack and I hope he will be aggressive early on to compile points as a knockout is a slim possibility in this matchup.

Fives days more to go, still got Loma in my mind to win this match  Cool.

Same here, I believe Loma will win, and I'm happy about that because he is the underdog, which means betting on him to win would be profitable. Meanwhile, Haney has to prove that he can defeat a highly technical fighter. The same challenge applies to Loma as people believe he is past his prime.

This fight is like a chess match, making it difficult to predict the winner. As you mentioned, it's a technical fight, but it's not boring, so I can't wait to see this match.
Yes, even in their promotions, I see Haney's training, interview with his Father and of course, the Haney's trash talking. On the other hand, I see Loma's hard training too, and we can't really take away that even if he is old and despite him being the underdog in this fight, he is the better fighter between the two specially if they will fight prime for prime. So for us bettors, if we look at the odds still very attractive for Loma specially if we pull the trigger right now. And as we say, just a couple of days ago and maybe we might sway to bet on Loma. So goodluck to everyone.

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And they have like a grand arrivals, MGM Grand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkx_kBZobqE

Both look great, so we should be expecting a close fight, lots of fans in attendance. Good interview and overall good marketing ploy for Top Rank and maybe they still want to attract as much as casual boxing fans to bring in the money this weekend.

So for sure, everyone is excited, I haven't put my bet yet, but a Loma bet is surely very attractive ML or by decision win or by knockout or technical knockout.

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And they have like a grand arrivals, MGM Grand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkx_kBZobqE

Both look great, so we should be expecting a close fight, lots of fans in attendance. Good interview and overall good marketing ploy for Top Rank and maybe they still want to attract as much as casual boxing fans to bring in the money this weekend.

So for sure, everyone is excited, I haven't put my bet yet, but a Loma bet is surely very attractive ML or by decision win or by knockout or technical knockout.

Well, we can't blame people for getting excited because this is a big fight. I agree that the odds of Loma are very attractive, so I'm sure some fans will be placing significant bets on him. This could potentially be Loma's last fight if he were to lose, but nothing is certain. Loma has been dominant in the past, but he is not getting any younger. Going up against a young champion who holds most of the advantages, it's clear that the majority of fans will be cheering for his opponent.



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And they have like a grand arrivals, MGM Grand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkx_kBZobqE

Both look great, so we should be expecting a close fight, lots of fans in attendance. Good interview and overall good marketing ploy for Top Rank and maybe they still want to attract as much as casual boxing fans to bring in the money this weekend.

So for sure, everyone is excited, I haven't put my bet yet, but a Loma bet is surely very attractive ML or by decision win or by knockout or technical knockout.

Well, we can't blame people for getting excited because this is a big fight. I agree that the odds of Loma are very attractive, so I'm sure some fans will be placing significant bets on him. This could potentially be Loma's last fight if he were to lose, but nothing is certain. Loma has been dominant in the past, but he is not getting any younger. Going up against a young champion who holds most of the advantages, it's clear that the majority of fans will be cheering for his opponent.

Though it's not as big as the promotion for Garcia vs Davis, this is still a big fight. With the advantages, Haney would be my bet for this fight.  Yep, this is a young fighter vs Loma where Haney also has tons of experience and also has a KO punch. 

Haney is risking belts but if he wins, a bigger fight for his career will happen. There were talks about Haney vs Davis after this and this is a big motivation to win.


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Though it's not as big as the promotion for Garcia vs Davis, this is still a big fight. With the advantages, Haney would be my bet for this fight.  Yep, this is a young fighter vs Loma where Haney also has tons of experience and also has a KO punch. 
Good luck with your bet! You are not alone, as most bettors will likely choose Haney since he is currently a more popular fighter with an undefeated record. Loma wouldn't be considered such an underdog if he had been able to maintain a strong record. However, predicting the outcome of a fight is always challenging, so good luck to you!

Haney is risking belts but if he wins, a bigger fight for his career will happen. There were talks about Haney vs Davis after this and this is a big motivation to win.
I actually appreciate what Haney did because it proves that he is a true champion. He is not afraid to face a boxer who could potentially defeat him, which sets him apart from other champions who tend to cherry-pick their opponents.

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Haney is risking belts but if he wins, a bigger fight for his career will happen. There were talks about Haney vs Davis after this and this is a big motivation to win.
I actually appreciate what Haney did because it proves that he is a true champion. He is not afraid to face a boxer who could potentially defeat him, which sets him apart from other champions who tend to cherry-pick their opponents.

Like Lomachenko ever avoided fighting opponents.

This is the first time Lomachenko is an underdog, and a heavy underdog. His problem during last fight is that he turns on/goes forward lately. This was in a fight against Lopez, when due that he did not have enough time to win more rounds. This was in a fight against Ortiz, when he managed to get bruise or cut in first round already. Loma starts slowly and increase tempo. That wont work against Haney. Plus Haney is younger. Plus Haney is going to be heavier. Loma is used to featherweight more. On the scale both will be 61.2kg, but next day Loma would be 65+, while Haney would probably be close to 70.

First two rounds will show everything. If Loma starts slowly, cautiously, exploring Haney, then Haney would end this fight with UD.

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May 17, 2023, 09:57:04 AM
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First two rounds will show everything. If Loma starts slowly, cautiously, exploring Haney, then Haney would end this fight with UD.

This fight may not go to the judges' scorecards because Loma will find a way to knock out Haney. It will be a challenging task, but Loma is a technical fighter who is capable of achieving it. While Haney has an undefeated record and is seen as the favorite, Loma understands the criticism he faced in his previous fight. I anticipate seeing improvements from Loma in the biggest fight of his career.

Haney might have the advantage in the first half, but once Loma figures out how to exploit Haney's defense, he will take over in the second half. As I mentioned before, I expect a knockout to occur.

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May 17, 2023, 10:38:43 AM
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And they have like a grand arrivals, MGM Grand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkx_kBZobqE

Both look great, so we should be expecting a close fight, lots of fans in attendance. Good interview and overall good marketing ploy for Top Rank and maybe they still want to attract as much as casual boxing fans to bring in the money this weekend.

So for sure, everyone is excited, I haven't put my bet yet, but a Loma bet is surely very attractive ML or by decision win or by knockout or technical knockout.

Well, we can't blame people for getting excited because this is a big fight. I agree that the odds of Loma are very attractive, so I'm sure some fans will be placing significant bets on him. This could potentially be Loma's last fight if he were to lose, but nothing is certain. Loma has been dominant in the past, but he is not getting any younger. Going up against a young champion who holds most of the advantages, it's clear that the majority of fans will be cheering for his opponent.

Though it's not as big as the promotion for Garcia vs Davis, this is still a big fight. With the advantages, Haney would be my bet for this fight.  Yep, this is a young fighter vs Loma where Haney also has tons of experience and also has a KO punch. 

Haney is risking belts but if he wins, a bigger fight for his career will happen. There were talks about Haney vs Davis after this and this is a big motivation to win.
Yes, not as big and that's why they try everything they can to really bring the fight to the masses. Just imagine Bob Arum still in his 90's and yet promoting this fight. We all know that this is the real deal as far as belt is concern for 135 lbs division.

However, everyone is on the bandwagon of Garcia and Tank Davis several weeks ago.

Just the question on whether the winner hear is willing to fight Tank Davis next, that will be the biggest fight if that happens.

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May 17, 2023, 10:43:36 AM
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The problem of current Lomachenko - he isnt hungry anymore. He has been boxing among pros for 10 years already. He has won European and World championship golden medals. While some people dream to get Olympic gold medal, Lomachenko got two of them. Not to mention all those belts he has got among professionals. He has achieved almost everything, he has earned a lot of money already, have lovely family. Compared to Haney, Loma has already "seen life, got everything". I really doubt that Loma needs and wants all that fights.

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