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July 23, 2024, 07:30:32 PM
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I mean doesn't it make sense for Argentina to lead the world? They won 2 Copa Americas back to back, and in between they won the world cup. France won one world cup six years ago, and failed to win euro 2020 and 2024 as well, so what did they win to make them be the first? I think it's quite clear that we are going to see Argentina be much better ranked than France, hell even England had more "success" recently, two finals at euro, more than what France did, just not that good at world cup, which makes them stay lower I suppose.

Interestingly it's been feeling like Argentina aren't that successful. But in reality the situation is the opposite.  Grin  Especially that World Cup title has made a huge impact on Argentina to climb places in FIFA Men's Ranking to top. Messi has really achieved all the things he can at the same time, even more than one of each - except the World Cup.

In my opinion, France needs to get rid of Deschamps. His game is so boring to watch, just as Southgate's was. Now Southgate has left England and I would like to see the same action from Deschamps if possible.  Tongue

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July 23, 2024, 08:01:43 PM
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I mean doesn't it make sense for Argentina to lead the world? They won 2 Copa Americas back to back, and in between they won the world cup. France won one world cup six years ago, and failed to win euro 2020 and 2024 as well, so what did they win to make them be the first? I think it's quite clear that we are going to see Argentina be much better ranked than France, hell even England had more "success" recently, two finals at euro, more than what France did, just not that good at world cup, which makes them stay lower I suppose.

Except I'm missing something, Argentina are top of the rankings, aren't they? They won the Copa, then the world cup and won the Copa again. That has earned them the top spot in the ranking. France are second and I believe they deserve that. I agree that France have been bad in the Euros but don't forget that they got to the final of the world cup, that's got to count for something. And they also have been winning their games too. The world cup and Euro are not the only things they use to determine the rankings.

In fact, Belgium being that high is the one that makes the least sense, they haven't been good for a long time, what are they using to calculate this? They should realize that Belgium hasn't had any success for many years, and even with KDB and all, they are still not a good team, haven't done anything good for a long time. I believe that this rank is a little weird,

What has Brazil got achieved in recent years? The countries behind Belgium, how successful have they been I recent years? Only Italy where successful enough to win the Euros recently but they are a very inconsistent side and they're barely in the top 10. It's not just about trophies won, but the amount of games they have won. Points are added and subtracted using a model and I believe it's accurate.

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July 23, 2024, 08:25:07 PM
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I mean doesn't it make sense for Argentina to lead the world? They won 2 Copa Americas back to back, and in between they won the world cup. France won one world cup six years ago, and failed to win euro 2020 and 2024 as well, so what did they win to make them be the first? I think it's quite clear that we are going to see Argentina be much better ranked than France, hell even England had more "success" recently, two finals at euro, more than what France did, just not that good at world cup, which makes them stay lower I suppose.

Interestingly it's been feeling like Argentina aren't that successful. But in reality the situation is the opposite.  Grin  Especially that World Cup title has made a huge impact on Argentina to climb places in FIFA Men's Ranking to top. Messi has really achieved all the things he can at the same time, even more than one of each - except the World Cup.

In my opinion, France needs to get rid of Deschamps. His game is so boring to watch, just as Southgate's was. Now Southgate has left England and I would like to see the same action from Deschamps if possible.  Tongue
For France, I think there is problem somewhere because this is certainly not the french team that gave Argentina the scare of their life during the FIFA world cup finals and even the finalists that played with Portugal. I feel France problem is that they are actually missing someone very strong that can spread the ball so well like Paul Pogba because I remember the same french were very enjoyable to watch but for this Euro's competition they were completely poor and not interesting at all.

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July 23, 2024, 08:46:47 PM
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For France, I think there is problem somewhere because this is certainly not the french team that gave Argentina the scare of their life during the FIFA world cup finals and even the finalists that played with Portugal. I feel France problem is that they are actually missing someone very strong that can spread the ball so well like Paul Pogba because I remember the same french were very enjoyable to watch but for this Euro's competition they were completely poor and not interesting at all.

Tables turn. It's not always juicy every time and that further exemplify the fact that they must continue to struggle hard to maintain their tempo at every season of the tournament else others will take charge. France really needs to work more on their squad and improve on the depth performance. Someone like Paul Pogba used to be instrumental in their game perticipation

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July 23, 2024, 11:52:04 PM
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I mean doesn't it make sense for Argentina to lead the world? They won 2 Copa Americas back to back, and in between they won the world cup. France won one world cup six years ago, and failed to win euro 2020 and 2024 as well, so what did they win to make them be the first? I think it's quite clear that we are going to see Argentina be much better ranked than France, hell even England had more "success" recently, two finals at euro, more than what France did, just not that good at world cup, which makes them stay lower I suppose.

Interestingly it's been feeling like Argentina aren't that successful. But in reality the situation is the opposite.  Grin  Especially that World Cup title has made a huge impact on Argentina to climb places in FIFA Men's Ranking to top. Messi has really achieved all the things he can at the same time, even more than one of each - except the World Cup.

In my opinion, France needs to get rid of Deschamps. His game is so boring to watch, just as Southgate's was. Now Southgate has left England and I would like to see the same action from Deschamps if possible.  Tongue

I think Messi is not tired yet, and if everything goes well like this for this player we can see even Messi playing in the 2026 World Cup for Argentina and this won't be surprising for us because he helped his team a lot in the last World Cup when won the title of this tournament.
I think regardless of age, Messi is a true leader for Argentina and he can even start helping the younger players and this can be another advantage of having Messi in the team for Argentina.
 

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Today at 07:34:06 AM
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I think Messi is not tired yet, and if everything goes well like this for this player we can see even Messi playing in the 2026 World Cup for Argentina and this won't be surprising for us because he helped his team a lot in the last World Cup when won the title of this tournament.
I think regardless of age, Messi is a true leader for Argentina and he can even start helping the younger players and this can be another advantage of having Messi in the team for Argentina.

I have posted this previously. Will post again - Messi has a lot to lose, and nothing to gain if he takes part in the 2026 FIFA World Cup as a player. And recently he suffered a serious ankle injury during the Copa America final (while playing against Colombia). Although Argentina won that match (as a result of a goal from Lautaro Martínez during extra time), Messi was forced out due to injury. I am not sure whether his health and fitness will allow him to play for another two years.

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Woah 257 pages on this and the tournament doesn’t start for 2 years. I guess we have qualifying to discuss though. It’s difficult to discuss who might win it because so much can change in two years. You would assume the usual suspects will have no problem qualifying though so we can still talk about who might win it.

Spain are a young team coming off the back of winning the Euros, they will be a force. Argentina are always there, will Messi still be playing though, at his age retirement must he close. Maybe this is his swan song and imagine going out after winning a second World Cup. The GOAT discussions would he over.

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Today at 10:49:30 AM
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Woah 257 pages on this and the tournament doesn’t start for 2 years. I guess we have qualifying to discuss though. It’s difficult to discuss who might win it because so much can change in two years. You would assume the usual suspects will have no problem qualifying though so we can still talk about who might win it.

Spain are a young team coming off the back of winning the Euros, they will be a force. Argentina are always there, will Messi still be playing though, at his age retirement must he close. Maybe this is his swan song and imagine going out after winning a second World Cup. The GOAT discussions would he over.

You would think so, but when you look at the South American qualifiers for the World Cup, you will notice how bad Brazil is running there at the moment. So far they have only got 7 points out of 6 games and the next two games they will have their back against the wall. It is against Ecuador and Paraguay and if they don't win at least one of those two games, they will find themselves  probably in the last remaining play-off spot in that group, which means no instant qualification, but play-off games against a team from another zone.

Brazil isn't able to play consistently on a high level at the moment and that was probably the reason why Ancelotti backed down when there was some talk about him taking over the Brazilian team. It still looks as if Brazil would never mess that up, but I remember checking the results and they got into the mess deeper and deeper. After all there are 18 games to go though as it is 10 teams and two legs per matchup.

One of the problems I think could be that Brazil still hasn't realized how dangerous the spot is that they are in. They still have this superior feeling that they can't fail to qualify. They won the first two qualifier games and then lost three games and tied one game.

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Today at 11:23:43 AM
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I mean doesn't it make sense for Argentina to lead the world? They won 2 Copa Americas back to back, and in between they won the world cup. France won one world cup six years ago, and failed to win euro 2020 and 2024 as well, so what did they win to make them be the first? I think it's quite clear that we are going to see Argentina be much better ranked than France, hell even England had more "success" recently, two finals at euro, more than what France did, just not that good at world cup, which makes them stay lower I suppose.

Interestingly it's been feeling like Argentina aren't that successful. But in reality the situation is the opposite.  Grin  Especially that World Cup title has made a huge impact on Argentina to climb places in FIFA Men's Ranking to top. Messi has really achieved all the things he can at the same time, even more than one of each - except the World Cup.

In my opinion, France needs to get rid of Deschamps. His game is so boring to watch, just as Southgate's was. Now Southgate has left England and I would like to see the same action from Deschamps if possible.  Tongue
You cannot compare Deschamps and Southgate in terms of achievements. If Southgate has achieved half of what Deschamps has achieved I don't think he would have lost his job. Sometimes the thrist for success makes to forget how far and how much we have accomplished. France were former world champion under Deschamps. He led them to another world cup finals which they eventually lost to Argentina in penalty shootout. Again they got to euros semi finals and lost to Spain who were demolishing every team on their path to glory. I don't see how Deschamps is a problem to the French national team. Let's give the man some credit, you might call his football boring but he is achieving results from it. France is doing well under Deschamps. England Fa wouldn't have sacked Southgate if he had delivered a trophy.

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