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Nope. I'm pretty responsible myself so I don't really see the need to set one up and if ever, I have my friends and family that would pretty much remind me if I ever end up spending too much. I usually ask (force) them to listen to me doing a kind of finance report by talking about my gambling experience for the month so that they can judge whether something is going terribly wrong and that I should adjust my mindset or what I'm doing.
I've tried self-exclusion, but not responsible gaming (or whatever feature). Self-exclusion is actually pretty useful but it still needs you to be able to control your urges, since it doesn't exactly stop you from creating a new account to gamble with.
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Mr. Magkaisa
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December 30, 2022, 02:55:08 PM |
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Any of you guys uses the responsible gambling feature? If so, what do you think about it? Is it helpful or does it only gives you a sense of control
Maybe, we all here have gambling sites that can really be trusted and are responsible for us in losing and winning bets, in general the features don't exist for me, but I have what you said. To be honest, I have thrown away several online gambling sites, now I only have 2 online gambling sites that can be responsible for me in all respects, I have spent a lot of things there, only these gambling sites want to be responsible. Well, aside from trusting reputable casino sites when gambling, we gamblers should also be responsible enough too to manage our funds not to lose them all from gambling. Because if we just keep on gambling without setting some limits, I guess in a just a year, we will end up ruining our future. So I believe this responsible gambling feature could still very helpful especially for those who fail to control theirselves when gambling, but if we also think we still manage to do the right thing in gambling even if we also make consistent but affordable losses, then we can always have the choice not to install this responsible gambling feature. - It's really important for us gamblers to have self-control and discipline in our gambling capital, because just like you said, if we don't have this behavior, our lives will be a mess in less than a year. It contributes a lot to us gamblers if we can apply it correctly in our usual crypto-gambling games. At least even if we lose, we know that this is the time to stop that day and come back another day.
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December 30, 2022, 02:57:52 PM |
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To know how to limit your gambling activity by yourself and to know your own limits is the ideal, but not everyone is at this emotional and mental stage yet, so they need third party tools in order to help them keep their impulses under control.
I have to agree with this. Others think that a self-exclusion program is not really needed but they didn't really know and understand the feeling of being close to becoming addicted. These persons where level of addiction is now being noticed really need some help in order to at least, try to take the momentum back to themselves. If others think that self-exclusion is not necessary, be thankful as that proves that you are still in yourself and far from falling into a gambling trap. Having third party features that can be integrated onto casinos that can grant gamblers additional security when it comes to fighting addiction and wrekless behavior would be an amazing idea. It is also something that can work out in terms of business model.
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AbuBhakar
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December 30, 2022, 03:04:18 PM |
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Having third party features that can be integrated onto casinos that can grant gamblers additional security when it comes to fighting addiction and wrekless behavior would be an amazing idea. It is also something that can work out in terms of business model.
Applying this in online casino is very hard to implement because there's a lot ways to bypass restrictions of the casino since KYC is not mandatory upon registration. This kind of services to control addiction will only work if the casino done KYC to all the players account including the new registered account so that they can verify whether the player has an existing restrictions or not. Probably this 3rd party services will just rely on IP to determine users but it can easily bypass by creating new account and using VPN.
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December 30, 2022, 03:13:48 PM |
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I have seen a serious case of addiction in gambling, which makes me wonder if this feature can help a chronic addict. I had a friend in school; he was my best friend, and we both were good, but all of a sudden he became a gambling addict. He uses every penny he gets from his parents to gamble, and he even borrows money from friends to gamble. He sells some of his clothing to gamble. Even his parents could not help him; they never had to give him money anymore, but instead he would pick pockets to gamble. If this feature existed then and I was aware of it, I think the best way to offer him some help is to tell him about the feature. But so many efforts have been rendered to this guy just to make him change, all to no avail. I have two friends who gamble, but they have no addiction. I will ask if they are aware of the feature. If they're not aware, kudos 👌 to me because I will be teaching them something new.
I don't think this feature will really work for your friend because, from your story, your friend pickpockets to gamble. That means your friend may already be in a state of gambling addiction and will try to get money in various ways. Maybe what can help is to go to counselling or psychiatry and talk to them so they can find a solution to the problem. And try to help you to keep him away from all kinds of things that can be related to gambling. The feature will only be useful when the person realizes his mistake and tries to prevent him from losing more money.
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Kelvinid
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December 30, 2022, 03:27:35 PM |
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Having third party features that can be integrated onto casinos that can grant gamblers additional security when it comes to fighting addiction and wrekless behavior would be an amazing idea. It is also something that can work out in terms of business model.
Applying this in online casino is very hard to implement because there's a lot ways to bypass restrictions of the casino since KYC is not mandatory upon registration. This kind of services to control addiction will only work if the casino done KYC to all the players account including the new registered account so that they can verify whether the player has an existing restrictions or not. Probably this 3rd party services will just rely on IP to determine users but it can easily bypass by creating new account and using VPN. Addiction is hard to control even if we implement this feature. And I don't see this will agree with this knowing that casino owners wanted to earn more money from gamblers. KYC is already in the system, single registration is enough to stop multiple accounts. We only need strict implementation of this. I don't think there is a need to change the system but what need is self-control. Being responsible gamblers will not let themselves be out of control but surely they will find a way to help it out.
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molsewid
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December 30, 2022, 03:41:58 PM |
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To know how to limit your gambling activity by yourself and to know your own limits is the ideal, but not everyone is at this emotional and mental stage yet, so they need third party tools in order to help them keep their impulses under control.
I have to agree with this. Others think that a self-exclusion program is not really needed but they didn't really know and understand the feeling of being close to becoming addicted. These persons where level of addiction is now being noticed really need some help in order to at least, try to take the momentum back to themselves. If others think that self-exclusion is not necessary, be thankful as that proves that you are still in yourself and far from falling into a gambling trap. Having third party features that can be integrated onto casinos that can grant gamblers additional security when it comes to fighting addiction and wrekless behavior would be an amazing idea. It is also something that can work out in terms of business model. It is kinda hard to think that this will be implemented. Responsibility should be on our end we don't need third party features, actually I don't really think that casinos will implement that since they are all after the money, correct me if I am wrong but I don't see any casinos promotes anti addiction in gambling, so I think it is not possible though and there are other external reason that really can affect people not only casinos.
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December 30, 2022, 04:03:58 PM |
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To know how to limit your gambling activity by yourself and to know your own limits is the ideal, but not everyone is at this emotional and mental stage yet, so they need third party tools in order to help them keep their impulses under control.
I have to agree with this. Others think that a self-exclusion program is not really needed but they didn't really know and understand the feeling of being close to becoming addicted. These persons where level of addiction is now being noticed really need some help in order to at least, try to take the momentum back to themselves. If others think that self-exclusion is not necessary, be thankful as that proves that you are still in yourself and far from falling into a gambling trap. Gamblers always make themselves instant earning with gambling and not time playing gambling is the solution to earn a profit, and of course those days we lose a lot at the same time, and some of them see gambling not as entertainment instead they urge to earn money and draw money back because of the greediness, and ideal with those is the revenge gameplay which ignores the number of money they have a continuously playing without hesitation with the budget and neglect the total number of losses if you are a gambler with the discipline, of course, you have a plan how much and until where is your limit in playing because too much gambling makes you burn out and makes a mistake toward decision making.
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December 30, 2022, 07:37:06 PM |
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OP: If you play poker you should know that the correct word is enter tilt mode.
I'm not so sure about that, fellow famososMuertos. Tilt is usually talked about players who win money, who due to a bad streak stop playing rationally and start letting their emotions, mainly anger or rage, take over. Losing players as the OP seems to think might also have some kind of tilt, but I doubt that all the states he experiences can be attributed to tilt. ... Well, a tilt mode is when you push all-ins like crazy without thinking... usually, it comes after some big disappointment from previously lost hands. Like you were sure of your wins, but that didn't happen. It happens in all gambling games, and in most cases, it leads to losing the entire balance. Occasionally, read maybe once in 100 times, that crazy gambling can bring recovery and maybe even some profit... The idea is a contrast to OP's specific situations, he claims to control and overcome his gambling addiction, the addict never recovers if he keeps playing. On the other hand, a normal player goes through difficult situations, in the aspect of psychological control, for example a situation like being on Tilt, if it improves over time, and it is a specific aspect or phase, that's why I mention it. When reading OP, with all due respect, he has a gambling addiction problem or is very close to it, I am not saying it, it is read between the lines.
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virasisog
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December 30, 2022, 07:53:39 PM |
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To know how to limit your gambling activity by yourself and to know your own limits is the ideal, but not everyone is at this emotional and mental stage yet, so they need third party tools in order to help them keep their impulses under control.
I have to agree with this. Others think that a self-exclusion program is not really needed but they didn't really know and understand the feeling of being close to becoming addicted. These persons where level of addiction is now being noticed really need some help to at least, try to take the momentum back to themselves. If others think that self-exclusion is not necessary, be thankful as that proves that you are still in yourself and far from falling into a gambling trap. Gamblers always make themselves instant earning with gambling and not time playing gambling is the solution to earn a profit, and of course those days we lose a lot at the same time, and some of them see gambling not as entertainment instead they urge to earn money and draw money back because of the greediness, and ideal with those is the revenge gameplay which ignores the number of money they have a continuously playing without hesitation with the budget and neglect the total number of losses if you are a gambler with the discipline, of course, you have a plan how much and until where is your limit in playing because too much gambling makes you burn out and makes a mistake toward decision making. Chasing our losses and always targeting huge winnings are the reason why gamblers fall for gambling addiction. Some of them don't even mind the losses and will just face the problem regarding it later on. For me, a responsible gambler should have enough self-discipline to control his decisions and make the right move when betting. There should be allocated funds for gambling and a gambler should know when to stop especially if he already consumed all his funds on it.
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December 30, 2022, 08:05:21 PM |
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To know how to limit your gambling activity by yourself and to know your own limits is the ideal, but not everyone is at this emotional and mental stage yet, so they need third party tools in order to help them keep their impulses under control.
I have to agree with this. Others think that a self-exclusion program is not really needed but they didn't really know and understand the feeling of being close to becoming addicted. These persons where level of addiction is now being noticed really need some help to at least, try to take the momentum back to themselves. If others think that self-exclusion is not necessary, be thankful as that proves that you are still in yourself and far from falling into a gambling trap. Gamblers always make themselves instant earning with gambling and not time playing gambling is the solution to earn a profit, and of course those days we lose a lot at the same time, and some of them see gambling not as entertainment instead they urge to earn money and draw money back because of the greediness, and ideal with those is the revenge gameplay which ignores the number of money they have a continuously playing without hesitation with the budget and neglect the total number of losses if you are a gambler with the discipline, of course, you have a plan how much and until where is your limit in playing because too much gambling makes you burn out and makes a mistake toward decision making. Chasing our losses and always targeting huge winnings are the reason why gamblers fall for gambling addiction. Some of them don't even mind the losses and will just face the problem regarding it later on. For me, a responsible gambler should have enough self-discipline to control his decisions and make the right move when betting. There should be allocated funds for gambling and a gambler should know when to stop especially if he already consumed all his funds on it. Chasing losses most of the time and you are trying out to chase for a win or even trying to make break even and this is what makes a person to be that desperate or actions that had been made if you arent really that good on handling yourself or having that control which you would really be ending up into this scenario or situation.When you do gamble then you should set out those limits when it comes to your funding or capital.If you do see that it is all busted then dont tend to add up even more with those loses and would be calling it a day but of course you should really limit yourself on doing gambling because sooner or later you would be finding yourself into a huge debt until you do realize that things are already that worst or totally messed up.
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December 30, 2022, 08:08:52 PM |
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Until now I have never used this because I personally have a principle that if I don't cross my limits then it will be fine. I always limit spending on gambling every month and when my budget in one month runs out in gambling then I will wait for the next month so as long as I don't limit it I don't think I need to use this feature.
Stick to this and you wont really be finding out yourself into great financial problem considering that gambling could really mess up your finances if you arent really that careful when it comes to your spending. Gambling should really be for fun and not something that you do deal up just because you do expect something from it or simply making it as a source of income. If you do have this kind of mindset then you are just basically making things a lot worst. Be responsible and dont make out unnecessary decisions which would cause up some problems later on. This is what sometimes goes wrong because indeed the majority think this is a source of income so they become more obsessed with gambling even though this actually plunges them. In other respects, we really can't blame it either because this really depends on how everyone's perspective is, but indeed managing financial conditions in gambling I think it's also important so even if we gamble, but when we can manage it I think we won't come out from the track because indeed we have taken into account all conditions without using emotion and greed.
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December 30, 2022, 08:09:18 PM |
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If that works for you OP, keep going. It is kinda hard to think that this will be implemented. Responsibility should be on our end we don't need third party features, actually I don't really think that casinos will implement that since they are all after the money, correct me if I am wrong but I don't see any casinos promotes anti addiction in gambling, so I think it is not possible though and there are other external reason that really can affect people not only casinos.
I agree, one should be responsible with their actions as they gamble. But, it's not a problem if someone relies on a third party feature from the casino itself or any third party software that helps them track their gambling activities and has the feature to minimize. For me, anything that helps a gambler to be more responsible whether they're real life attitude, application software or some individual people that may help us.
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Until now I have never used this because I personally have a principle that if I don't cross my limits then it will be fine. I always limit spending on gambling every month and when my budget in one month runs out in gambling then I will wait for the next month so as long as I don't limit it I don't think I need to use this feature.
Stick to this and you wont really be finding out yourself into great financial problem considering that gambling could really mess up your finances if you arent really that careful when it comes to your spending. Gambling should really be for fun and not something that you do deal up just because you do expect something from it or simply making it as a source of income. If you do have this kind of mindset then you are just basically making things a lot worst. Be responsible and dont make out unnecessary decisions which would cause up some problems later on. This is what sometimes goes wrong because indeed the majority think this is a source of income so they become more obsessed with gambling even though this actually plunges them. In other respects, we really can't blame it either because this really depends on how everyone's perspective is, but indeed managing financial conditions in gambling I think it's also important so even if we gamble, but when we can manage it I think we won't come out from the track because indeed we have taken into account all conditions without using emotion and greed. Making it a source of income is really totally a suicide thing to be done by someone yet it cant really be just possible that you would really be making this as your main source but rather this is just purely for entertainment purposes nothingless.There are really just people who cant really be able to determine or make out difference in between which is right and which is wrong.Be responsible with your actions most of the time because it would really cost you that much or would really be able to sacrifice things if you do make out bad decisions in life not just on gambling. Gambling is for fun and dont go beyond over those limits when it comes to finances because it would really be a total disaster if you do.
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l3pox
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December 30, 2022, 10:14:27 PM |
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As I stated before Emotional control and bankroll management are the most important things to develop to gamble responsibly
This and knowing what you do for fun and what you do to make money Its not advised to try to make a living out of gambling since most will loose money on the long run
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Alisha-k
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December 30, 2022, 10:17:56 PM |
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The responsible gambling feature is something that is very useful but unfortunatelly it is also something that it is difficult to finding in most of the crypto casinos out there. I remember that i have found the feature on Betcoin a few years ago. I dunno if they still have it.
As for the functionality of the feature itself, it is a feature for players that can easily lose their way after a few bad beats. It allows for players to set upmaximum deposits/monthand daily top expending, so I believe this is something that cryptocasinos should implement.
If many casino should have this it will help manage addiction a lot. But the sad fact is it will take external intervention to enforce it across all casinos. But i was also thinking you are currently using the feature or you are sharing an old experience from Betcoin? But if they still have it on their casino then it will be nice trying it out.
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blockman
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December 30, 2022, 10:27:05 PM |
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As I stated before Emotional control and bankroll management are the most important things to develop to gamble responsibly
This and knowing what you do for fun and what you do to make money Its not advised to try to make a living out of gambling since most will loose money on the long run
When you are too emotional and needs some help just like BlawPaw did, you have to consistently using it for you to becom responsible. And when you get accustomed to it, it is going to be your time to think if you have to use it forever because you can't do it alone. No problem with it until you are wholly responsible when you are going to gamble with or without the help of that feature.
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noormcs5
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December 30, 2022, 11:20:28 PM Last edit: December 30, 2022, 11:32:28 PM by noormcs5 |
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I consider myself a gambling addict. However, unlike gambling addicts, I'm aware of my addiction and I know how to control it. What I love most is playing poker and also sports betting. The latter is the one that screws me the most. Even though, I can get some real good profits, sometimes I get wild and end up losing all of my money.
To avoid, running after the loss, I have set up the responsible gambling in my account and it helps me a lot to control the bad beats against my will to recharge my account and ending up losing it all again.
For me this has been working for quite some time and it was a way I found to prevent me from throwing money that I need away.
Any of you guys uses the responsible gambling feature? If so, what do you think about it? Is it helpful or does it only gives you a sense of control
to be honest I have never used any feature to control myself not to lose too much money at gambling. I just use experiences that are too bad in the past to be used as a lesson so that I can better control my emotions when gambling. on the other hand I also have a great wife who can always give a few words that always remind me to always gamble with money I can afford to lose. so until now I didn't understand such a feature. I just used my past as a lesson not to chase defeat in gambling too much. We really need something (reminders) in order for us to keep focused and do not get addicted to gambling. In your case it is your wife, who keeps on reminding you to gamble with extra money. If many casino should have this it will help manage addiction a lot. But the sad fact is it will take external intervention to enforce it across all casinos. But i was also thinking you are currently using the feature or you are sharing an old experience from Betcoin? But if they still have it on their casino then it will be nice trying it out.
The casinos will never implement anything related to responsible gambling. They want to gain money themselves and will like that we become addicted to gamble and lose our money. It is only when we lose the money in gambling, the gambling casino and gambling houses gains the money.
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December 31, 2022, 07:01:50 AM |
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I consider myself a gambling addict. However, unlike gambling addicts, I'm aware of my addiction and I know how to control it. What I love most is playing poker and also sports betting. The latter is the one that screws me the most. Even though, I can get some real good profits, sometimes I get wild and end up losing all of my money.
To avoid, running after the loss, I have set up the responsible gambling in my account and it helps me a lot to control the bad beats against my will to recharge my account and ending up losing it all again.
For me this has been working for quite some time and it was a way I found to prevent me from throwing money that I need away.
Any of you guys uses the responsible gambling feature? If so, what do you think about it? Is it helpful or does it only gives you a sense of control
I'm not sure if you are qualified as addicted gambler because this does not count to be one , I can say because once I am an addict and yes I cannot do anything to avoid the call of gambling and the readiness of losing , though i know each time that I will lose? still trying to believe myself that I will win but ending always the same , that i can't stand not until i am zero balance .
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Dr.Bitcoin_Strange
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December 31, 2022, 09:23:14 AM |
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~snip~ So many alternatives have been tried on this guy to make him stop, but all have proved abortive. Even if you isolate this guy in a hole, he will find his ways. He had been arrested several times, but at present, I don't know where he is.
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