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December 30, 2022, 04:52:24 PM
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GM/GN everyone.

Help me understand this, please.

Following the collapse of the FTX, which impacted valuations and reduced investor interest, Goldman Sachs aims to invest or spend tens of millions of dollars buying crypto companies. Which indicates to me that they clearly see some benefits of blockchain if it's under their control.

Why would one of the biggest investment banks in the world want to buy FTX's scraps?

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https://www.reuters.com/technology/goldman-sachs-hunt-bargain-crypto-firms-after-ftx-fiasco-2022-12-06/

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December 30, 2022, 05:21:45 PM
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....Why would one of the biggest investment banks in the world want to buy FTX's scraps?

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https://www.reuters.com/technology/goldman-sachs-hunt-bargain-crypto-firms-after-ftx-fiasco-2022-12-06/
You must have misunderstood the news article. It didn't say they will buy what's left of FTX but they will buy or invest in cryptocurrencies because the prices are down as a result of the FTX implosion. These banks are business opportunists at the end of the day and will take a calculated risk if a chance presents itself.

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December 30, 2022, 05:22:07 PM
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My guess is that it's easy to just keep the project going instead of creating a new one. Blockfi and Voyager already have thousands of users on it, so they know they can bring investors in the Tradfi to crypto and Goldman Sach as well will be a trusted counterparty.

The collapse of FTX had boosted Goldmansach trading volume according to them and so they wanna be a savior of these firms.

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December 30, 2022, 06:52:21 PM
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....Why would one of the biggest investment banks in the world want to buy FTX's scraps?

Sources:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/goldman-sachs-hunt-bargain-crypto-firms-after-ftx-fiasco-2022-12-06/
You must have misunderstood the news article. It didn't say they will buy what's left of FTX but they will buy or invest in cryptocurrencies because the prices are down as a result of the FTX implosion. These banks are business opportunists at the end of the day and will take a calculated risk if a chance presents itself.
Of didn't say that they were buying FTX, but crypto companies. There's no talk in the articles that they would invest in cryptocurrencies but cryptocurrency companies, and those are down because of the case FTX .

And why they do this? They see that they can get them almost free and they are in it for the long term. Many crypto companies also might have better fundamentals then most cryptos and actual value behind them. Even if they are now having hard times.

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December 30, 2022, 06:57:02 PM
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That is not a plan to buy a failed exchange or company, they are trying to take advantage the market situation and if there’s a good company to buy probably they are willing to invest on it but I doubt on a dead exchange like FTX. They are an investment bank which know where to put their money, if they see potential on a bear market then we should also do the same because bull will come and only time can tell, better to be ready for that.
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December 30, 2022, 07:23:07 PM
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GM/GN everyone.

Help me understand this, please.

Following the collapse of the FTX, which impacted valuations and reduced investor interest, Goldman Sachs aims to invest or spend tens of millions of dollars buying crypto companies. Which indicates to me that they clearly see some benefits of blockchain if it's under their control.

Why would one of the biggest investment banks in the world want to buy FTX's scraps?
As Rothschild said “the time to buy is when there is blood in the streets”

What he means is that after a huge crisis the price of everything is at its cheapest and if you have some cash available then you must take the opportunity to buy everything that you can, Goldman Sachs is simply making use of that strategy in modern times, just as many long term holders buy the dip or do DCA to increase their holdings during these times, so it should not come out as something odd they are choosing this moment to invest in several companies related to this market when many other people are doing the same.
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December 30, 2022, 08:19:28 PM
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....Why would one of the biggest investment banks in the world want to buy FTX's scraps?

Sources:

https://www.reuters.com/technology/goldman-sachs-hunt-bargain-crypto-firms-after-ftx-fiasco-2022-12-06/
You must have misunderstood the news article. It didn't say they will buy what's left of FTX but they will buy or invest in cryptocurrencies because the prices are down as a result of the FTX implosion. These banks are business opportunists at the end of the day and will take a calculated risk if a chance presents itself.
Of didn't say that they were buying FTX, but crypto companies. There's no talk in the articles that they would invest in cryptocurrencies but cryptocurrency companies, and those are down because of the case FTX .

And why they do this? They see that they can get them almost free and they are in it for the long term. Many crypto companies also might have better fundamentals then most cryptos and actual value behind them. Even if they are now having hard times.
It seems to me that if they really plan to buy the companies that were hurt by the FTX collapse, this could be bullish news in the near future. After all, there were no public announcements during the entire market crash, and here comes Goldman Sachs right away. The only thing that is not clear yet is whether we can trust this news.

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December 30, 2022, 11:53:35 PM
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AFAIK, they are already into crypto and known as an investor of it.
Honestly, if they want to invest into crypto because of blockchain. They should just focus on blockchain applications and use cases of it.

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December 31, 2022, 10:32:23 AM
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Goldman Sachs are planning to buy cryptocurrency and or offer crypto services because it’s the future of finance. Cryptocurrencies are asset classes that they can profit from. These guys are not stupid, if their clients want bitcoin then they will start to offer it.

The thing is, these older established institutions have to move with the times or risk becoming obsolete.

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Following the collapse of the FTX, which impacted valuations and reduced investor interest, Goldman Sachs aims to invest or spend tens of millions of dollars buying crypto companies. Which indicates to me that they clearly see some benefits of blockchain if it's under their control.
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December 31, 2022, 03:02:03 PM
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GM/GN everyone.
Help me understand this, please.
Following the collapse of the FTX, which impacted valuations and reduced investor interest, Goldman Sachs aims to invest or spend tens of millions of dollars buying crypto companies. Which indicates to me that they clearly see some benefits of blockchain if it's under their control.
Why would one of the biggest investment banks in the world want to buy FTX's scraps?

As others in this thread have already mentioned, Goldman Sachs is not talking about the buying what is left of FTX and Alameda to reopen it or something like that. They are talking about the fact that the bankruptcy of FTX has caused a massive crash of basically every crypto project out there and this could be a good opportunity to buy into some good crypto projects with strong fundamentals because such a project has a very high chance to pump again once the next bull market arrives.
This does not even mean that Goldman Sachs is having a positive view on cryptos or something, it just means that they maybe see a good investment opportunity here.
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They are speculators and market makers, so buying crypto companies for them does not mean that they see some development in blockchain, it means that right now the purchase is justified by a good price and in the next few years they can make a good profit. In 2023, there may be a market recovery and the previous prices may not be there anymore, so big players like investment banks always buy in moments of universal fear and sell at the peak of universal hype.

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December 31, 2022, 10:21:03 PM
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AFAIK, they are already into crypto and known as an investor of it.
Honestly, if they want to invest into crypto because of blockchain. They should just focus on blockchain applications and use cases of it.

They are already exposed to crypto, probably they are just waiting for this moment to accumulate more and expand their business, planning to buy a crypto company seems to be more of a serious decision since they are not just buying any specific crypto, they are planning to buy the company. Well, if this big company sees the value of crypto right now, we should be more delighted since crypto is being recognized now and for sure the future is still bright for us. We should start accumulating as well while its cheap, don’t wait for another bull before buying.

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December 31, 2022, 10:34:05 PM
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AFAIK, they are already into crypto and known as an investor of it.
Honestly, if they want to invest into crypto because of blockchain. They should just focus on blockchain applications and use cases of it.

They are already exposed to crypto, probably they are just waiting for this moment to accumulate more and expand their business, planning to buy a crypto company seems to be more of a serious decision since they are not just buying any specific crypto, they are planning to buy the company. Well, if this big company sees the value of crypto right now, we should be more delighted since crypto is being recognized now and for sure the future is still bright for us. We should start accumulating as well while its cheap, don’t wait for another bull before buying.

they are seeing something positive with the possible purchase. that's very simple. in business, if they see the opportunity and some are still hesitant, they will grab it. they are not newcomers in this industry, so they already know what they are getting into. at least a positive vibe for the community to know about such move by goldman sachs. if you will really think about the BTC's price today, and you are a strong supporter of crypto, you would really think that its current price is a very good opportunity to collect more, a very good deal to buy from this bearish market.

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December 31, 2022, 10:49:51 PM
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GM/GN everyone.

Help me understand this, please.

Following the collapse of the FTX, which impacted valuations and reduced investor interest, Goldman Sachs aims to invest or spend tens of millions of dollars buying crypto companies. Which indicates to me that they clearly see some benefits of blockchain if it's under their control.

Why would one of the biggest investment banks in the world want to buy FTX's scraps?

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https://www.reuters.com/technology/goldman-sachs-hunt-bargain-crypto-firms-after-ftx-fiasco-2022-12-06/

https://app.getresponse.com/view.html?x=a62b&m=BVUS7v&mc=9Q&s=BtgXWnG&u=QcLhh&z=Ey5USsN&


Why not?  If history has told us anything is that crypto eventually sheds all these bad apples and comes out bigger and better.  Obviously they see a bright future for crypto so why not buy now when things are on the Lowe end of value than when everything is booming.

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Following the collapse of the FTX, which impacted valuations and reduced investor interest, Goldman Sachs aims to invest or spend tens of millions of dollars buying crypto companies. Which indicates to me that they clearly see some benefits of blockchain if it's under their control.

Why would one of the biggest investment banks in the world want to buy FTX's scraps?
Honestly, this must be an all new approach as far as I am concerned. After a big collapse, most whales and institutes look for only cheaper cryptocurrencies but this is first time I heard about the demand for the collapsed firm.

What are the possibilities to acquire a bankrupted firm? By googling I learned these:
1. Acquiring a firm for undervalue (not just for better price or cheaper price but far-best-price).
2. Merging a bankrupted firm is easier and got tax benefits in some countries.

Still, not sure about the exact case of Goldman Sachs and FTX but we can assume that Goldman Sachs is planning something big in crypto world by believing into the future of cryptocurrencies.

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AFAIK, they are already into crypto and known as an investor of it.
Honestly, if they want to invest into crypto because of blockchain. They should just focus on blockchain applications and use cases of it.


They are already into crypto from a long time and from a banks perspective they are one of the pioneers in accepting crypto in their assets.They are already one of the best banks for people who are into trading and into investing from several years but now with such move they want to consolidate and get a share from the big crypto market that there is and probably will be much more bigger than it is now with the passing of time.I see nothing wrong with this move and the reason they are looking from FTX leftovers means that most likely they want to build something of their own on top of the already existing infrastructure.

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As you can see a bank like them would think a lot of times before enteringa collapsing company. It sounds like that but the article is pretty clever and some might fall under the impression that they will acquire a sinking company.

Linking to a company like ftx may sound bullish but probably Goldman Sachs are into something big related to blockchain but not with FTX of course. This could be a trigger and bullish factor in the coming years.

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The answers there, it dampened the competition for it. To be perfectly fair, the fall of FTX was because of the dumb moves done by SBF, in general, imo exchanges are still and will always be a thing in the future, centralized or not. Most people just lost the idea that crypto should be stored in centralized exchanges, but it's still nonetheless functioning as an exchange imo, which is still a possible place for profit and potential growth.

I'm assuming this is for other crypto firms though, and not FTX themselves specifically. I don't think anyone would want to associate their name with FTX even after a few months have already passed.

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January 02, 2023, 07:03:54 AM
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Why would one of the biggest investment banks in the world want to buy FTX's scraps?
I believe that they are just waiting for the perfect time. These entities before are always talking negative things on Bitcoin or even spreading some FUD to make Bitcoin looks bad and dump for sure, I think that's only a show so people will sell and these groups will start buying cheap Bitcoins from people who panic.

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