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January 08, 2023, 10:30:36 PM
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The price of things these days has been vastly affected, so much so that fertilizer prices is the least of worries for majority of the world population.
Fertilizer can be gotten from waste, left overs, trash. All dumped in a huge dug pit or empty land area and left to decompose. Farmers who rely on industrial fertilizers simply aren't thinking outside the box, both inorder to save cost and keep production and sales of farm produce constant or up to a certain minimum.
With the prices soaring, an economist would advise only spending on things that are necessary, things that have substitutes that are equally as good as our favorites, also to think of better creative ways to more than compensate for our regular dietary requirements.

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January 08, 2023, 10:38:55 PM
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sometimes i feel these "fear" puff pieces are not where an item has/should increase in cost. but instead creates a fear that it will go up as an excuse to then artificially raise the price to set the excuse of raising the price

farmers can find ways around increased fertiliser costs. by obtaining organic slurry from a neighbouring cattle farmer. by changing their farming practice to be more efficient per plant how that plant gets its nutrients. and of course get fertiliser from elsewhere. other forms

i dont see it as a real "will kill millions via malnutrition" debate. i feel its a fake fear media puff piece


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January 10, 2023, 05:41:12 AM
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The reality is that we are just way too late to changing our farming methods, the year is 2023 and we are still basing our food production on huge lands and tractors and farmers who would raise those crops.

I am sorry but this had to change long time ago into something that would be just vertical farming in warehouses and you could grow 10x more crops in 10% of the land required, and a lot more healthier that way as well since there won't be any pest or anything that would go there and bugs and dirt etc etc. It would be pure clean and profitable while being organic and healthy at the same time. We need to make that the common thing for sure.
The way out, as always, is somewhere in the middle. In agriculture, it is necessary, if possible, to use organic matter as fertilizers. In this regard, it is especially important to process weeds, any green mass, which, in combination with dried plants, provides a very valuable universal fertilizer. This will reduce the need for chemical fertilizers and improve food quality. Chemical fertilizers should be applied as an addition to organic fertilizers, then it will bring maximum benefit.
The current problem with shortages in certain regions of chemical, inorganic fertilizers is caused in large part by Russia's military intervention in Ukraine and the subsequent sanctions that disrupted the traditional supply chain.

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January 11, 2023, 08:19:18 PM
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sometimes i feel these "fear" puff pieces are not where an item has/should increase in cost. but instead creates a fear that it will go up as an excuse to then artificially raise the price to set the excuse of raising the price
Causing fear under the pretext of raising prices, namely the role of distributors playing with certain parties. I personally don't know how fertilizer is managed in other countries. But what I know is that in our country there are subsidized fertilizers that are sold in the market. The problem that often occurs is the scarcity of fertilizers due to games between distributors and certain parties who play a role in fertilizer problems.

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farmers can find ways around increased fertiliser costs. by obtaining organic slurry from a neighbouring cattle farmer. by changing their farming practice to be more efficient per plant how that plant gets its nutrients. and of course get fertiliser from elsewhere. other forms
And this is still being practiced at my place, we still use organic fertilizers in various agricultural lands such as vegetables and rice, the method of processing this fertilizer is also quite simple and the raw materials needed are also quite easy to obtain. By using organic fertilizers, farmers' yields are not reduced, in fact much better because they get enough elements, because they don't use chemicals in the processing of the planting process.

The cost of planting is also cheaper than using non-organic fertilizers, so that when the harvest arrives, the farmer gets a much bigger profit.

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i dont see it as a real "will kill millions via malnutrition" debate. i feel its a fake fear media puff piece
That's the role of the media in playing issues according to interests, nutrition does not only represent agriculture and I think using old patterns in growing any plant is far more nutritious and healthy, because without using chemical fertilizers plants will thrive and live naturally.

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January 11, 2023, 08:45:50 PM
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The cost of fertilizers is actually exorbitant if you compare and contrasts the price historically. This is not just happening in the west only, it is everywhere and farmers are happy about it because the consequences is great and can already be felt. Shortage of food is one of them. Soaring prices of fertilizer leads to increase in the cost of production and reduce the quantity.

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January 12, 2023, 06:39:08 PM
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The cost of fertilizers is actually exorbitant if you compare and contrasts the price historically. This is not just happening in the west only, it is everywhere and farmers are happy about it because the consequences is great and can already be felt. Shortage of food is one of them. Soaring prices of fertilizer leads to increase in the cost of production and reduce the quantity.
I guess that's because of the inflation. Not just fertilizers actually but the increasing rates of it affects almost any other goods.  Also, the effects aren't only limited on a certain country but this was a global phenomena. Can't understand, how are the famers happy about it? Sure, they can increase the price of their products but that is because also pay more for producing it.

An increase in the price of the goods, isn't a good thing to the consumer. It makes them buy less or won't buy it all so the profits that the sellers or the farmers are making is going to be lesser this time. Shortage in food is different. It is when the demands are high.
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January 15, 2023, 08:14:15 AM
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The price of fertilizers is determined by the natural gas prices. The gas prices in Europe have dropped recently, because the European gas reserves are almost full. I don't know if this will change in the summer and the gas prices won't hit new highs.
We have already suffered thru the 52% inflation of basic foods. I don't think that there will be another 81% inflation wave in the agriculture sector. The inflation levels might be lower. What is concerning is the really warm winter in Europe, which is bad for the crops.

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January 15, 2023, 12:10:30 PM
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Well, currently China are the biggest importer of fertilizer ... because they need to produce more food per square meter, than any other agricultural land in other countries. The thing is, they manufacture a lot of products that are needed by other countries, so food imports will balance out the books for them, if they need to import more food than what they can produce.  Roll Eyes

The repercussions for the US agriculture are huge, because Fertilizer prices account for nearly one-fifth of U.S. farm cash costs, with an even greater share for corn and wheat producers. Source : https://www.fas.usda.gov/data/impacts-and-repercussions-price-increases-global-fertilizer-market

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Fertilizer prices are indeed very high, making farmers in my country desperate, even organic fertilizers cannot meet their needs during the planting season, not to mention the actions of naughty distributors who deliberately raise prices 2-3 times the price from producers, making the world of agriculture even more chaotic.
actually the increase in fertilizer prices is not due to inflation, the high cost of raw materials for making fertilizer and production costs that require producers to raise prices,

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One of the main reasons the world always come to foolish conclusions generated by research and computer simulations is that they remove the CREATOR of Heaven and Earth out of the equation. I remember their predictions about covid and others, but they failed to factor in the realignments that already occurred especially shortly before covid pandemic.   The poor who do not depend on the evil system are heavily protected.  
By the way, synthetic fertilizer do not produce good foods nor  rich harvest. You need the right farmers to produce good foods and rich harvest not those that believe that poisoning foods with toxic chemicals will make them grow. Try and grow some foods in greenhouse with soil rich in natural/organic manure and you probably notice the difference. How are you sure the synthetic fertilizer are not  filled with growth hormones?
Apparently, it is not necessary to approach the issue of the use of fertilizers in agriculture in a uniform way for different categories of those involved in the cultivation of products. For home gardens, small and even medium-sized farmers, organic farming is quite suitable. Organics is able to give plants all the useful substances for growth and getting a good harvest, because this is how nature itself laid it down. Such products are absolutely complete and have good taste.

Large enterprises that cultivate large areas of agricultural land may well use synthetic fertilizers, and here it is only important to observe the measure. But even in this case, it is desirable to combine these types of fertilizers and try to introduce organic matter as much as possible. Otherwise, the fertile resource of the Earth will be depleted.

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The global food situation worsened after the Russians deliberately blew up the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Station from the inside on June 6, flooding about 80 settlements in southern Ukraine and disrupting the irrigation system that supplied water to millions of agricultural enterprises. Productivity in Ukraine due to this largest terrorist attack by Russians will drop sharply, and therefore the amount of exports of agricultural products from Ukraine will also decrease.

In addition, Russia continues to block the export of grain and other agricultural products from the Black Sea ports of Ukraine. Therefore, the countries of Africa should say their "thank you" to the Russian Putin regime, which arranges an artificial famine in the world.

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One of the coolest methods I found to produce organic fertilizer is to construct "pigeon towers". They're essentially structures that are built to be friendly for pigeons and birds to roost in. They funnel bird poop into areas which make it easy to collect and use as a natural, organic, fertilizer. In the world of hot start up concepts surely that idea has to count for something? In the old world, some civilizations were known for constructing massive pigeon towers, which appeared as giant stone monoliths, for purposes of simplifying the collection of bird waste.

Of course, there are many other methods. I'm certain there be no shortage of great ideas for producing organic fertilizers as ideas in this era are in abundant supply.
Fertilizer is very important for plant growth, therefore plants will grow healthy and produce quality results.
I think to collect bird dirt for too long because it may be calculated with how many birds that have a bird that is birds in the tower, if you have a lot of pigeons, it will quickly also get the dirt, but what if the opposite, why not use other animal dung such as cow dung , horses, goats, chicken and pigs, maybe others can also be added as an alternative to get organic fertilizer and to help farmers who lack fertilizer due to the high price of fertilizer.

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