The world continues dumping US dollar (Gold, New World Order, World War III)

[DrBeer]

Speaking of dumping US dollar, BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) which is one of the groups of countries that are dumping it has been expected to surpass G7 (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, UK and US) for some time and recently the stats show that it already happened. This is partly because the Western Economy has been shrinking and partially because BRICS economy has been growing.
This is expected to continue at a faster pace in the future, specially as the deindustrialization of Europe continues).
.....

You can draw any graphics, you can invent any fantasies, you can lie and twist information... But the truth is always higher than this and it is always on the surface!

BRICS countries overall picture:
1. China is an export-oriented economy dependent on Western technology and investment. Status: The total volume of Chinese loans in the second quarter of 2022 reached $51.87 trillion, citing data from the Bank for International Settlements (BIS). The level of debt is almost three times the country's GDP (295%) and is the highest for China since 1995.
Stagnation and internal discontent, the departure of Western investors and technologies.
2. Brazil - tell or know about "successes"? Read about 2020-2022, you will learn a lot of interesting things
3. India - Public debt to GDP 89.26%, or 9.7 trillion dollars, not rupees but dollars! More than half of the mainstream economy is dependent on Western technology. So far, it has managed to parasitize on Russian resources.
4. Russia. Well, here it is very briefly - a world outcast, a terrorist country, the future is generally in question
5. South Africa - just a couple of headlines:
2023: Introduction in the country of a mode of national disaster because of deficiency of the electric power
2022: Energy shortage crisis due to worn-out power plants
2020, unemployment, according to the same statistical department of the country, reached a record 29.1%.
2020: South African economy experienced the strongest recession in 100 years

Yes, in 2022 there was a certain "rise" - but this is a temporary factor associated with increased demand for coal in the EU. Demand is gone - economic growth has gone down.

The total GDP of these countries (China, India, Russia, South Africa, Brazil) = US GDP! Despite the fact that the economies of China, India, South Africa are very dependent on Western consumers!
You can continue to draw ridiculous BRICS charts  

[1714553647]

1714553647

[1714553647]

1714553647

[1714553647]

1714553647

[1714553647]

1714553647

[1714553647]

1714553647

[Argoo]

This is completely understandable, and Ukraine, as an independent country, has the right to choose which camp it wants to join. But it is unfortunate that its location is adjacent to Russia, like a barrier between the two camps, and because it did not seize the opportunity of Russia's weakness after the collapse of the Soviet Union and joined NATO and the European Union countries, as Poland did. Russia today is not the Russia of the nineties, and I do not think it will allow the Western camp to expand.

Yes, the mistake of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR was that it first chose a neutral status and even gave up its nuclear potential, the third in the world, in exchange for assurances from leading states, including Russia, about guarantees of its security. We can already see how Russia acted as one of the countries that guaranteed Ukraine the security of its existence within internationally recognized borders. But the attack on Ukraine, as it turned out, was a fatal mistake for Russia itself. And Ukraine will not make the same mistake again.

[DrBeer]

This is completely understandable, and Ukraine, as an independent country, has the right to choose which camp it wants to join. But it is unfortunate that its location is adjacent to Russia, like a barrier between the two camps, and because it did not seize the opportunity of Russia's weakness after the collapse of the Soviet Union and joined NATO and the European Union countries, as Poland did. Russia today is not the Russia of the nineties, and I do not think it will allow the Western camp to expand.

Yes, the mistake of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR was that it first chose a neutral status and even gave up its nuclear potential, the third in the world, in exchange for assurances from leading states, including Russia, about guarantees of its security. We can already see how Russia acted as one of the countries that guaranteed Ukraine the security of its existence within internationally recognized borders. But the attack on Ukraine, as it turned out, was a fatal mistake for Russia itself. And Ukraine will not make the same mistake again.

It is in consequence of the complete non-compliance with their obligations to Ukraine that any further agreements do not make the slightest sense. Everyone has already made sure that a word or a signature under documents, from Russia, is really worth nothing! It's just a squiggle on paper that doesn't stand for anything. And precisely for this reason, the Ukrainian side will no longer support any proposed "agreements" by Russia. However, like the Chinese plan for a "peace settlement". In this situation, Russia itself did not leave us a single option, except for a complete victory over the aggressor country

[Bitcoin2009]

The thing that makes the economy a problem is money, when the state is free to print money then they don't think about the impacts such as inflation, especially when printing money the state has no support or guarantor of banknotes so that when paper money continues to be printed, its value will decrease. besides that the threat of war can occur at any time due to tensions in many countries.

[coupable]

This is completely understandable, and Ukraine, as an independent country, has the right to choose which camp it wants to join. But it is unfortunate that its location is adjacent to Russia, like a barrier between the two camps, and because it did not seize the opportunity of Russia's weakness after the collapse of the Soviet Union and joined NATO and the European Union countries, as Poland did. Russia today is not the Russia of the nineties, and I do not think it will allow the Western camp to expand.

Yes, the mistake of Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR was that it first chose a neutral status and even gave up its nuclear potential, the third in the world, in exchange for assurances from leading states, including Russia, about guarantees of its security. We can already see how Russia acted as one of the countries that guaranteed Ukraine the security of its existence within internationally recognized borders. But the attack on Ukraine, as it turned out, was a fatal mistake for Russia itself. And Ukraine will not make the same mistake again.

But it is unfortunate to say that Ukraine may not again have the opportunity to decide its own destiny. Its choice after the collapse of the Soviet Union was mainly strategic and due to the fear of being targeted by any side. But it did not work to develop a military and civilian force capable of facing any potential danger, whether from one of its neighbors or from any other country.
Russia would not have dared to destroy the Crimea region in front of everyone's eyes had it not been aware that Ukraine is weak in front of it and that the West will not support it as it dreamed of.

[Argoo]

But it is unfortunate to say that Ukraine may not again have the opportunity to decide its own destiny. Its choice after the collapse of the Soviet Union was mainly strategic and due to the fear of being targeted by any side. But it did not work to develop a military and civilian force capable of facing any potential danger, whether from one of its neighbors or from any other country.
Russia would not have dared to destroy the Crimea region in front of everyone's eyes had it not been aware that Ukraine is weak in front of it and that the West will not support it as it dreamed of.

If, after the collapse of the USSR and Ukraine's independence in 1991, Ukraine had been afraid of an attack on it by other states, it would not have abandoned the world's third-largest nuclear potential and would have begun to improve and build up its armed forces. But precisely because the then leadership of Ukraine considered that Ukraine was surrounded by friendly states, the erroneous opinion was accepted that nothing threatened Ukraine.

In 2014, the occupation of the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea by Russia occurred due to the fact that on its territory, by mutual agreement, there was a Russian naval base near Sevastopol, and it was enough for the Russian occupiers to go beyond this base. Crimea was occupied virtually without a single shot being fired, because the treacherous actions of the "fraternal" people of Russia were a shock to Ukraine, which was not psychologically ready to fight with it, and in Ukraine at that time there were only about 15 thousand combat-ready army.

In 2022, for some reason, Putin decided that Ukraine would not resist again, and we see what such self-confidence led to.

[DrBeer]

But it is unfortunate to say that Ukraine may not again have the opportunity to decide its own destiny. Its choice after the collapse of the Soviet Union was mainly strategic and due to the fear of being targeted by any side. But it did not work to develop a military and civilian force capable of facing any potential danger, whether from one of its neighbors or from any other country.
Russia would not have dared to destroy the Crimea region in front of everyone's eyes had it not been aware that Ukraine is weak in front of it and that the West will not support it as it dreamed of.

We have already drawn conclusions from the Russian aggression that was launched against Ukraine in 2014.
Our army is being reformed, the transition to high-tech and progressive Western weapons.
We are reforming the very structure of the army, according to the Western standard.
We are forming territorial defense detachments (including tactical, physical, theoretical training)
Well, and most importantly, what Russia has been thinking about for so long - supposedly Ukraine was going to join NATO in 2014, Russia persuaded us - yes, we are now really planning to join NATO!

And what is VERY important - the Russian war against Ukraine, in fact, revived NATO, and Western unity! Now most of the Western countries understand that now it is impossible to allow the possibility of accumulating significant power for some inadequate regime in order to terrorize the whole world later. Now other rogue and terrorist countries will have problems: North Korea, Iran and the like

Yes - and of course the formation of gold reserves in dollars, euros, and not wrappers for pampering

[Paul Pogba]

Now war is not just military power, economic wars have been going on since the end of world war 2, USA which became the victor is now facing complicated financial challenges because other countries such as russia, china or others are also getting stronger, we will see if the economic war is the beginning from the third world war.

[pooya87]

Let's bring the discussion back to dedollarisation instead of War Propaganda.
Let me share a theory I heard recently that involves possible Finland joining NATO and collapse of (Soviet)United (Union)States.

We know that one of the major factors contributing to the collapse of the Soviet Union was economical. All those little countries with loads of economical problems were under the Soviet umbrella and Soviets had to provide them with enough incentive to keep the "loyal". To put simply as the economical problems grew, eventually the whole thing collapsed.

A very similar situation is happening again. It is not example a "union" like Soviet Union but more like a bloc were US is absorbing all these little countries into it. All of them (the entire Europe) has been facing a crisis and US not only been incapable of helping but they've made everything a lot worse by printing more dollars and exporting that inflation to Europe and by selling energy at extremely high prices and at small amounts that helped deindustrialization of Europe. Now more little countries like Finland with all their economical problems are being added to this "bloc" while US economy is slowly collapsing itself.

On the other side we have an Eastern Bloc that consists of the strongest economy (China), members from the West (like South America including Brazil), almost all the energy in the world (Iran has been in the bloc from day 1, Arabs are joining in like Saudi regime which is literary the only reason why Petrodollar is alive, tiny Arab nations like Qatar/UAE/..., Venezuela and more),... and the whole bloc's economy has been growing over the past year while separating itself from the failing Western Economy and also from Dollar.

The theory is that some experts suggest that what we are witnessing today is the start of the collapse of United States in a very similar way Soviet Union collapsed.
This also means more tensions, more conflicts and more nuclear threat.... and threat of WWIII which could also be averted when US collapses like Soviet Union did and nuclear war was averted in 1990's.

[Hamza2424]

Let's bring the discussion back to dedollarisation instead of War Propaganda.

A very similar situation is happening again. It is not example a "union" like Soviet Union but more like a bloc were US is absorbing all these little countries into it. All of them (the entire Europe) has been facing a crisis and US not only been incapable of helping but they've made everything a lot worse by printing more dollars and exporting that inflation to Europe and by selling energy at extremely high prices and at small amounts that helped deindustrialization of Europe. Now more little countries like Finland with all their economical problems are being added to this "bloc" while US economy is slowly collapsing itself.

First of all, I don't consider Nato to be the Soviet Union there are huge differences between them. Secondly, I was totally uneducated by these developments which you've mentioned, including why the US is printing money Blindly and Selling high-cost energy to European countries. According to the theory, and all the latest developments in geopolitics I think things are getting tense on both edges of the string but still trying to understand what WWIII can have a beginning as according to the current situation things are not clear its not natural resources for now but in coming time it can be.

There are two current approaches in the world where major powers dominate the remaining world, the first one is selling weapons directly or using proxies which need chaos and with force in every region there is at least one country under chaos. The second approach is dominated by consumer product competition and winning. A third-world strategy also exists which is to sell your natural resources.

[pooya87]

still trying to understand what WWIII can have a beginning

To put it differently, the old World Order where the West with US on top was ruling over the world has been over for some time now but those powers are already addicted to the tremendous amount of power they have been abusing so they are not going to give it up that easily. Hence the proxy wars, the sanctions, the cold wars, etc. But with all that they still couldn't hang on to their power and every day they lose a little more. At some point they have to choose between becoming obsolete or going to war. The warmongers are not known for going out peacefully!

[DrBeer]

Let's bring the discussion back to dedollarisation instead of War Propaganda.
Let me share a theory I heard recently that involves possible Finland joining NATO and collapse of (Soviet)United (Union)States.

We know that one of the major factors contributing to the collapse of the Soviet Union was economical. All those little countries with loads of economical problems were under the Soviet umbrella and Soviets had to provide them with enough incentive to keep the "loyal". To put simply as the economical problems grew, eventually the whole thing collapsed.

A very similar situation is happening again. It is not example a "union" like Soviet Union but more like a bloc were US is absorbing all these little countries into it. All of them (the entire Europe) has been facing a crisis and US not only been incapable of helping but they've made everything a lot worse by printing more dollars and exporting that inflation to Europe and by selling energy at extremely high prices and at small amounts that helped deindustrialization of Europe. Now more little countries like Finland with all their economical problems are being added to this "bloc" while US economy is slowly collapsing itself.

On the other side we have an Eastern Bloc that consists of the strongest economy (China), members from the West (like South America including Brazil), almost all the energy in the world (Iran has been in the bloc from day 1, Arabs are joining in like Saudi regime which is literary the only reason why Petrodollar is alive, tiny Arab nations like Qatar/UAE/..., Venezuela and more),... and the whole bloc's economy has been growing over the past year while separating itself from the failing Western Economy and also from Dollar.

The theory is that some experts suggest that what we are witnessing today is the start of the collapse of United States in a very similar way Soviet Union collapsed.
This also means more tensions, more conflicts and more nuclear threat.... and threat of WWIII which could also be averted when US collapses like Soviet Union did and nuclear war was averted in 1990's.

The collapse of the USSR was really the result of the collapse of the economic system of the USSR, built on terror and the usurpation of the resources of the union republics, and the slavish exploitation of the population of the "fraternal republics". And the USSR, like any slave-owning system, cannot exist for a long time.

But an attempt to build an alliance of rogue countries, liars, fake countries, terrorist countries is completely different. The only ones that look more or less decent against the background of all sorts of Irn, Russia and other "world bottom", these are India and China. But even here everything is not simple. For India and China, these garbage countries are simply FAVORABLE temporary resource appendages, or those with whose hands some "dirty deeds" will be implemented for creating the appearance of "support" from China or India. For example, Russia for China is just a set of historical Chinese territories, a resource appendage, and a "guinea pig", but not a partner or friend, as Russia is trying its best to show

[Wind_FURY]

Let's bring the discussion back to dedollarisation instead of War Propaganda.
Let me share a theory I heard recently that involves possible Finland joining NATO and collapse of (Soviet)United (Union)States.

We know that one of the major factors contributing to the collapse of the Soviet Union was economical. All those little countries with loads of economical problems were under the Soviet umbrella and Soviets had to provide them with enough incentive to keep the "loyal". To put simply as the economical problems grew, eventually the whole thing collapsed.

A very similar situation is happening again. It is not example a "union" like Soviet Union but more like a bloc were US is absorbing all these little countries into it. All of them (the entire Europe) has been facing a crisis and US not only been incapable of helping but they've made everything a lot worse by printing more dollars and exporting that inflation to Europe and by selling energy at extremely high prices and at small amounts that helped deindustrialization of Europe. Now more little countries like Finland with all their economical problems are being added to this "bloc" while US economy is slowly collapsing itself.

On the other side we have an Eastern Bloc that consists of the strongest economy (China), members from the West (like South America including Brazil), almost all the energy in the world (Iran has been in the bloc from day 1, Arabs are joining in like Saudi regime which is literary the only reason why Petrodollar is alive, tiny Arab nations like Qatar/UAE/..., Venezuela and more),... and the whole bloc's economy has been growing over the past year while separating itself from the failing Western Economy and also from Dollar.

The theory is that some experts suggest that what we are witnessing today is the start of the collapse of United States in a very similar way Soviet Union collapsed.
This also means more tensions, more conflicts and more nuclear threat.... and threat of WWIII which could also be averted when US collapses like Soviet Union did and nuclear war was averted in 1990's.

OK, you posted your theory. Playing the Devil's Advocate, let me post something that's actually happening in practice. BRICS can't compete with the United States Dollar system because BRICS can't run their own systems properly. Do the research on that.

World trade chooses the United States Dollar system because nothing else can compete with it in? Spendability, Saveability, and Liquidity. It's simply the easiest currency to move, makes the most practical choice to hold because it's the easiest to move in/out to/from it, and everyone wants to accept/transact in it, including China.

[pooya87]

BRICS can't compete with the United States Dollar system because BRICS can't run their own systems properly. Do the research on that.

Thanks for your input but you need to explain your claims better than this.

World trade chooses the United States Dollar system because nothing else can compete with it in? Spendability, Saveability, and Liquidity. It's simply the easiest currency to move, makes the most practical choice to hold because it's the easiest to move in/out to/from it, and everyone wants to accept/transact in it, including China.

Then how do you explain the fact that slowly but surely Yuan is already replacing dollar?

[DrBeer]

By the way, very interesting information about Xi Dzingpin's visit. His humble servant, Putin, asked his master for the right to trade with African countries for... no, not rubles, but for yuan Do you feel why all these BRICS and other fighters with the dollar came? They begin to subsidize the Chinese economy by selling their goods for Yuan, while China is quietly and frankly stocking up on dollars and gold! At the same time, he supports his demonic "partners" with both hands, who are hysterically getting rid of the dollar! Such a trick when dollars flow from the pocket of not very smart countries to the pocket of a more smart country.

PS and also - thank you very much to India for the online show "How to Divorce an Asshole". It's about how India buys goods from Russia for rupees, but at the same time India has forbidden Russia to exchange rupees for dollars. I just applaud!!!!

[coupable]

But it is unfortunate to say that Ukraine may not again have the opportunity to decide its own destiny. Its choice after the collapse of the Soviet Union was mainly strategic and due to the fear of being targeted by any side. But it did not work to develop a military and civilian force capable of facing any potential danger, whether from one of its neighbors or from any other country.
Russia would not have dared to destroy the Crimea region in front of everyone's eyes had it not been aware that Ukraine is weak in front of it and that the West will not support it as it dreamed of.

We have already drawn conclusions from the Russian aggression that was launched against Ukraine in 2014.
Our army is being reformed, the transition to high-tech and progressive Western weapons.
We are reforming the very structure of the army, according to the Western standard.
We are forming territorial defense detachments (including tactical, physical, theoretical training)
Well, and most importantly, what Russia has been thinking about for so long - supposedly Ukraine was going to join NATO in 2014, Russia persuaded us - yes, we are now really planning to join NATO!

And what is VERY important - the Russian war against Ukraine, in fact, revived NATO, and Western unity! Now most of the Western countries understand that now it is impossible to allow the possibility of accumulating significant power for some inadequate regime in order to terrorize the whole world later. Now other rogue and terrorist countries will have problems: North Korea, Iran and the like

I do not think that it is easy for Ukraine today to join NATO, or that NATO will accept it, or that Russia will allow it. America, which heads NATO, is fully benefiting from this war and achieving through it goals that it would not have succeeded in achieving if it wanted to enter into a direct confrontation with Russia. Ukraine is a country at war, and NATO will be forced to defend it if it accepts its accession, and this is what Russia will consider a declaration of war on it by NATO. This ignites the entire region, and this may be the beginning of the third world war that the world awaits in fear.

[Ngewex Yuk]

The threat of an economic recession is of course getting closer because of the many tensions that have the potential to become a war like what happened with Russia vs Ukraine, but there is something unique when many types of investment have decreased but the price of gold in my country has increased significantly in 2023, I don't know if the price of gold on the global market will either go on.

[DrBeer]

I do not think that it is easy for Ukraine today to join NATO, or that NATO will accept it, or that Russia will allow it. America, which heads NATO, is fully benefiting from this war and achieving through it goals that it would not have succeeded in achieving if it wanted to enter into a direct confrontation with Russia. Ukraine is a country at war, and NATO will be forced to defend it if it accepts its accession, and this is what Russia will consider a declaration of war on it by NATO. This ignites the entire region, and this may be the beginning of the third world war that the world awaits in fear.

As a supporter of Ukraine's accession to NATO, I'll tell you honestly:
in 2018, when this idea appeared, I assessed it as unlikely. I am completely honest about this!
Causes ? Yes, mass - desire - is not a solution. The standards of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are very far from NATO standards - both technically and in terms of construction and management. There is a war going on in the country against a very vile, but rather strong enemy. The NATO legal framework requires the fulfillment of a huge number of conditions - for which we were not ready in 2018.
Now the situation has changed. Firstly, Ukraine has a colossal real experience of warfare. Moreover, both with Soviet-style weapons and with current Western weapons of the NATO standard. The structure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is already being adapted to NATO standards. This point is not for joining NATO, but at least for bringing the structure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to a more effective construction, principles of management, which shows itself very effectively in confronting the country with a terrorist.
The course of the war has already changed, and now it is only a matter of time when it will end. It will end with the victory of Ukraine and the entire civilized world.
And most importantly, I'm not 100% sure that Russia will be divided into several separate countries, as was the case with Hitler's Germany, for example. I really hope so, but there is no 100% certainty. Therefore, Ukraine for NATO, and NATO for Ukraine can become a kind of convenient, mutually beneficial symbiosis, while the terrorist country is preserved in a potentially unsafe "live state".

By the way, if we return to the topic, then just this war gave impetus to the revival of NATO, to the revision of NATO's goals, to the rearmament or rearmament of its members, which means that this is a powerful impetus for the economies of countries producing weapons and their partners! So the cost of such internationally recognized currencies as the dollar, pound, euro - on the contrary, will be more in demand, provided by the real economy.

[Ozero]

I do not think that it is easy for Ukraine today to join NATO, or that NATO will accept it, or that Russia will allow it. America, which heads NATO, is fully benefiting from this war and achieving through it goals that it would not have succeeded in achieving if it wanted to enter into a direct confrontation with Russia. Ukraine is a country at war, and NATO will be forced to defend it if it accepts its accession, and this is what Russia will consider a declaration of war on it by NATO. This ignites the entire region, and this may be the beginning of the third world war that the world awaits in fear.

We are not talking about Ukraine joining NATO before the end of the war with Russia. In any case, the war will not drag on for a long time, it is not beneficial to anyone, including Russia itself, despite the Kremlin's assurances that they are capable of fighting for a long time. The hot phase of the war should end by summer or autumn.

There is nothing to fight in Russia anymore. Lack of everything, and above all armored vehicles and ammunition. Combat-ready trained Russian troops are also running out. Today I read information that the elite 155th Marine Brigade of the Russian Pacific Fleet was defeated in Ukraine eight times already, after which the brigade was constantly replenished with new contract soldiers and mobilized ones. One can imagine what and with what experience and desire he is now fighting as part of this brigade.

Ukraine will join NATO at the first opportunity and they predict that it will be almost the next day after the end of the war. And above all, the members of this alliance themselves are interested in this, since Ukraine has invaluable experience in warfare with the latest NATO technologies, which even the military of this bloc does not have. In addition, Ukraine has its own samples and developments in armaments, which are often not inferior to NATO weapons, as well as the relevant specialists and material base for their manufacture. To have such a buffer before Russia as Ukraine, both Europe and the USA are interested.

[disconnectme]

I believe the US has overplayed its card with all these USD sanctions but the big question is who else can we trust to marshall the world economy, China will be worse than the USA, if you looked at how the Communist Party runs China, you won't pray for that to happen to the world, that would be a disaster. I know the BRIRCS alliance is getting stronger and the west seems so stupid to be weakening themselves from the inside through all these rubbish policies they are pushing, but for now, I don't think the world really ready for a post-USA era