The world continues dumping US dollar (Gold, New World Order, World War III)

[DrBeer]

Today ends the BRICS summit, which takes place in the capital of the PAR Johannesburg on August 22-24. It is attended by the leaders of China, India, Brazil and South Africa, Russia is represented by Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Russian dictator Vladimir Putin did not go to the capital of South Africa because of a warrant issued by the International Criminal Court for his arrest. At the summit, he spoke via video link. There was a lot of speculation about Putin's presence at this summit, but it seems that he was still afraid to come, and the host party did not really want to see him so as not to have problems with the obligation to arrest him.

So far, it is known that the leaders of the BRICS countries have decided to invite Argentina, Egypt, Iran, Ethiopia, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia to become full members of this alliance. But many expected that the decision on the common currency of the BRICS countries would be made at the summit.

BRICS countries refuse to discuss common currency
South African diplomat refutes discussion of BRICS common currency by saying "not on the agenda"
The issue of a common currency BRICS is not on the agenda, the countries of the association are only talking about deepening mutual trade in national currencies. This was stated at a media briefing by the Sherpa of South Africa in the association Anil Suklal, reports Reuters.
He stressed that Brazil, India, China, Russia and South Africa will continue to look for ways to partially abandon the use of the dollar in international trade, but denied rumors that a joint currency could become this way.


BRICS countries refuse to discuss common currency
South African diplomat refutes discussion of BRICS common currency by saying "not on the agenda"
The issue of a common currency BRICS is not on the agenda, the countries of the association are only talking about deepening mutual trade in national currencies. This was stated at a media briefing by the Sherpa of South Africa in the association Anil Suklal, reports Reuters.
He stressed that Brazil, India, China, Russia and South Africa will continue to look for ways to partially abandon the use of the dollar in international trade, but denied rumors that a joint currency could become this way.

https://lenta.ru/news/2023/07/20/net/

The problem with the fantasy of a "BRICS common currency" is that a common currency can be had by the countries of the union if at least the leading countries have stable economies, have the ability to support weaker members, and importantly, have a mutually beneficial economic model. As was the case, for example, in the EU.
But the BRICS members do not meet these conditions. Therefore, things will not go further than "still trying to find solutions".

China is trying to impose the yuan on everyone, India and some other countries are strongly against it, realizing what a trap it is.

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[Wind_FURY]

Tin-foil hats on.

The United States Government and the Federal Reserve might be doing everything on purpose to get a credit downgrade and cause China and the other debt holders to dump U.S. Treasuries. Then they raised interest rates which restricted the supply of U.S. Dollars. Because of restricted supply, its value will go up sooner or later. Probably once the value of the Dollar is high enough, and the value of U.S. Treasuries are low enough, the Federal Reserve turns the money printer on and prints trillions of Dollars to buy all the cheap debt in the market.

They already did do that, the inflation in United States sky rocketed over a year ago which was made worse by all countries dumping the US debt bonds they held; so the FED started increasing the interest rate incrementally to battle the inflation and they could not decrease it as much as they wanted while causing recession.

Now that high interest rate means they also had to pay a ton of interest to those who were bag holding bonds thingies! This is why the US government had a battle to increase the debt ceiling. Because they needed to print a ton of money to pay those interests! They did do that in a month or two by printing nearly a trillion dollar. Guess what that newly printed money does to inflation

Besides, do you know what this game with interest rates does to the economy? It kills it and the society. People won't be able to pay their debts, whether it is a loan they took to buy a house or send their kids to college or a loan to start a business. Production is slowly dying because of how much it costs inside US soil. Where do they migrate to? LOL.... to China.

This is why US currently has a war with two of its biggest investment companies called BlackRock and MSCI because they are slowly pulling about $15 trillion out of US. Guess their destination?

You didn't get the point.

China still holds about $800 billion of U.S. Treasuries, and with the U.S. Dollar's value starting to go up because of the Federal Reserve's tightening/short supply of U.S. Dollars, those Dollars will look very attractive for China and make them dump more U.S. Treasuries, or simply dump them because they will be needing those foreign reserves for their collapsing economy. But in what currency will they get paid for selling U.S. debt? - U.S. Dollars from the money printer. They will be a holder of U.S. Dollars. The great reset.

But what will they do with all those Dollars? Where will invest all that money?

It's merely a shower thought, but I believe the United States is playing 4D Chess.

[Argoo]

If you mean armed conflict I believe the chances of a large scale armed conflict is low at this point specially in more of Europe (unless something major changes, like I said above). However, it will remain in Ukraine and Russia may start advancing more to completely cut Ukraine off from the sea. Worst case scenario is for Russia to go through Belarus to take the tiny part of Lithuania that links it to the part of Russia (ie. Kaliningrad) that is separated from mainland to gain better and direct access to Baltic sea.

The great and mighty Russia has been unable to cope with the relatively small Ukraine for a year and a half and still dreams of capturing other states? Alas, she clearly doesn’t have enough strength. Even to resume the offensive and cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea, today for Russia is already in the realm of only imperial intentions, which are far from reality, nothing more. During the autumn months, the Armed Forces of Ukraine may well throw the Russian invaders into the Sea of Azov in the south of Ukraine, after which the Russians will feel very uncomfortable in the occupied Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, which will be completely within reach of Ukrainian missiles and will certainly turn into an island for them, without full-fledged military supplies equipment and ammunition.

Given that the Russian professional army is almost entirely defeated in Ukraine, with a critical shortage of military equipment, especially artillery, is it still threatening to attack the Baltic countries, which are NATO members? For Russia, this would practically mean suicide.

[STT]

China is hardly the best way to judge US policy, its a horrible regime victimizing their people for generations with millions dead from the poor choices continually made by that military dictatorship.  If this is how we judge the strength of any country we're in trouble.  China holds quite alot of Dollar bonds from their export economy, Japan holds a trillion in treasury debt last I heard and they have horrible currency problems with their QE programs starting 33 years ago and never stopping or recovering any value since that inception.  
  Its far more obvious with Japan but China has demographic fallout that will greatly weaken the country.   Both countries have a falling working population which amplifies stress on the economy due to a very likely rising labor cost to all industry.  Japan managed to outrun many negatives by development and technology deployment to greater efficiency, additionally with export of factory production but theres great doubt any other country could juggle all that quite as well and so China will suffer more possibly; other countries can already undercut their cost of production.

[pooya87]

China still holds about $800 billion of U.S. Treasuries, and with the U.S. Dollar's value starting to go up because of the Federal Reserve's tightening/short supply of U.S. Dollars, those Dollars will look very attractive for China and make them dump more U.S. Treasuries, or simply dump them because they will be needing those foreign reserves for their collapsing economy. But in what currency will they get paid for selling U.S. debt? - U.S. Dollars from the money printer. They will be a holder of U.S. Dollars. The great reset.

You are forgetting that when you bag-hold the US treasuries you are in reality lending money to the US government to cover the budget deficit and the ginormous expenses; which means the US government has to pay you interest on the bonds you are bag holding. With the heavily increased interest rate, bag holding these bonds means you get more interest (more money) which US prints out of thin air like a Ponzi Scheme. This is also why all the money from all the other markets (including bitcoin) is being sucked up by US government.

So on one hand China wants to get that profit by being a bag holder (so they bag hold $800 billion) and at the same time they want to get rid of it to reduce their risk (so they dump $200 billion out of the initial $1000 billion they held). This is also why they got rid of a large amount of their dollar reserves by converting it to both gold and yuan.

[Wind_FURY]

China still holds about $800 billion of U.S. Treasuries, and with the U.S. Dollar's value starting to go up because of the Federal Reserve's tightening/short supply of U.S. Dollars, those Dollars will look very attractive for China and make them dump more U.S. Treasuries, or simply dump them because they will be needing those foreign reserves for their collapsing economy. But in what currency will they get paid for selling U.S. debt? - U.S. Dollars from the money printer. They will be a holder of U.S. Dollars. The great reset.

You are forgetting that when you bag-hold the US treasuries you are in reality lending money to the US government to cover the budget deficit and the ginormous expenses; which means the US government has to pay you interest on the bonds you are bag holding. With the heavily increased interest rate, bag holding these bonds means you get more interest (more money) which US prints out of thin air like a Ponzi Scheme. This is also why all the money from all the other markets (including bitcoin) is being sucked up by US government.

So on one hand China wants to get that profit by being a bag holder (so they bag hold $800 billion) and at the same time they want to get rid of it to reduce their risk (so they dump $200 billion out of the initial $1000 billion they held). This is also why they got rid of a large amount of their dollar reserves by converting it to both gold and yuan.

I'm going to DYOR on what's currently going on, BUT China is definitely NOT "getting rid" of a large portion of their Dollar reserves because they want to do it, it's because they need to it. The Chinese Yuan's value against the U.S. Dollar has been falling in the FOREX market. The countries holding Yuan are selling them, and the People's Bank Of China needs to be the net-buyer to defend it.

[DrBeer]

China is hardly the best way to judge US policy, its a horrible regime victimizing their people for generations with millions dead from the poor choices continually made by that military dictatorship.  If this is how we judge the strength of any country we're in trouble.  China holds quite alot of Dollar bonds from their export economy, Japan holds a trillion in treasury debt last I heard and they have horrible currency problems with their QE programs starting 33 years ago and never stopping or recovering any value since that inception.  
  Its far more obvious with Japan but China has demographic fallout that will greatly weaken the country.   Both countries have a falling working population which amplifies stress on the economy due to a very likely rising labor cost to all industry.  Japan managed to outrun many negatives by development and technology deployment to greater efficiency, additionally with export of factory production but theres great doubt any other country could juggle all that quite as well and so China will suffer more possibly; other countries can already undercut their cost of production.

By the way China has come to one expected problem. They have long struggled with fertility, imposed inhumane restrictions, and all so that the population would stop growing at the rates that were until 2020.... And then "the process started"... A noticeable part of the population moved from the level of the poor to the level of the middle class, the standard of living rose, and the usual "tradition" of having many children began to be "forgotten" by itself. This means that in a country with 1 billion population the number of pensioners began to grow (social burden on the budget), as well as the current and prospective productive population, on which China's growing economy was supported... decreased. And now it is not clear how to fix the problem ? China's economy is in trouble, the burden is growing, tax revenues will decline, "tightening the screws" on business will lead to a decrease in business activity.... More stringent measures, restrictions and controls will have to be introduced, which means more totalitarianism and less freedoms. And this is another push... downward...

[Argoo]

It is possible that today the world has become even closer to the Third World War. Yesterday, October 7, the Islamist group Hamas launched its biggest attack on Israel in many years. The militants carried out a surprise attack under cover of a massive rocket attack (reported between 2,500 and 5,000 rocket strikes) and infiltrated several Israeli cities.

The Israeli army IDF announced a military operation "Iron Swords" to repel the attack, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu directly said that Israel is in a state of war. While the United States and European countries supported Israel in its right to defense, Advisor to the Supreme Leader of Iran Ali Khamenei, on the contrary, congratulated Palestinian militants on launching the largest attack on Israel.
Radical Islamists from the Taliban movement, who seized power in Afghanistan, also supported Hamas attacks on Israel. They are ready to “conquer Jerusalem” if Muslim countries neighboring Israel give them the right of passage for troops. Thus, another hotbed of military confrontation is being formed.

Is this a major failure of Israeli intelligence to allow such a massive attack without proper preparation for it, or a deliberate creation of conditions for the subsequent complete Israeli takeover of the Gaza Strip? We'll find out the answer soon.

[pooya87]

It is possible that today the world has become even closer to the Third World War. Yesterday, October 7, the Islamist group Hamas launched its biggest attack on Israel in many years.

The terrorist organization commonly known as Israel has been falling apart from inside for about 4 years now where no "government" can remain in office for long and the back to back protests across the occupied land for 40+ weeks against the radical Zionist is another indication of how this terrorist organization is coming to its end of life.

Palestinians are now using this opportunity, specially as the armed IDF terrorist have been abandoning their posts for the past months, to attack the occupiers and try to take back as much of their occupied country as they can.

However, this is all too small and too localized to lead to a World War. Not to mention that United States has not dared to enter this conflict so far which would be the only reason why this war could expand. And I don't think they have the capability or courage to enter it at this point either. The warning US regime received was too serious for them to do anything but stand back and watch their dog burn.

[khiholangkang]

It is possible that today the world has become even closer to the Third World War. Yesterday, October 7, the Islamist group Hamas launched its biggest attack on Israel in many years.

The terrorist organization commonly known as Israel has been falling apart from inside for about 2 years now where no "government" can remain in office for long and the back to back protests across the occupied land for 40+ weeks against the radical Zionist is another indication of how this terrorist organization is coming to its end of life.

Palestinians are now using this opportunity, specially as the armed IDF terrorist have been abandoning their posts for the past months, to attack the occupiers and try to take back as much of their occupied country as they can.

However, this is all too small and too localized to lead to a World War. Not to mention that United States has not dared to enter this conflict so far which would be the only reason why this war could expand. And I don't think they have the capability or courage to enter it at this point either. The warning US regime received was too serious for them to do anything but stand back and watch their dog burn.

What is happening in the region of Palestine and Israel has been going on for a long time and it seems that there will be no meeting point between the two unless one of the parties surrenders, but that will not be possible if you look at the situation of the two parties. The war between these two countries did not trigger any party to join the war and or openly support one of the parties between Palestine and Israel so it will not trigger a world war if you look at the situation of tension between these two countries.

What is happening in this war is because of the fight over the promised land and the heritage of their ancestors, not on politics or economics like other things. and as far as I can notice this war does not affect global politics and economic polarization so it is very unlikely to trigger a world war.

America is not openly in this war and claiming to be one of the parties to the war, but I think America has an advantage in this situation because it is the supplier of military equipment in the war, we know that when there is a war America becomes the most profitable arms dealer. He will laugh when the war continues.

[pooya87]

The war between these two countries

It's not two "countries" though. Just as Ukraine and Donesk, Donbas aren't 2-3 countries. It is one country called Palestine that has majority of it under occupation. Gaza can not even be categorized as a country! It is more like a large prison.

What is happening in this war is because of the fight over the promised land and the heritage of their ancestors, not on politics or economics like other things. and as far as I can notice this war does not affect global politics and economic polarization so it is very unlikely to trigger a world war.

Only on paper. In truth this is actually tied to the World Order, the old and the new.
You see the fake country of Israel was created artificially a little more than 70 years ago after WW2 so that the Western hegemonies (basically United States) could have a wild dog in the most energy rich region of the world that not only controls the balance of power to be always tipping towards US to help US control the energy but also has access to East Mediterranean sea and one of the most strategic and economical chokepoints on earth called the Suez Canal controlling European economy (ie a rabid dog for both West Asia and Europe).

As the organization weakens and as the resistance takes back the occupied places (which may take a long time) US continues losing its power and the New World Order is solidified even more.

[Argoo]

For the first time in 50 years, part of Israel was captured by terrorists. The depth of penetration into Israeli territory, according to information from Israeli journalists, is up to 40 km in some cities. 23 Israeli settlements were captured. Moreover, the attackers showed unnecessary cruelty and indiscriminately killed civilians of all genders and ages.

These daring and barbaric actions of Hamas could lead to a colossal conflict (or a full-fledged war) that would involve almost all countries of the Arab world. This is exactly what Putin needs! Its main goal is to divert the attention of the World and, above all, the United States from the aggressive war in Ukraine and block assistance to Ukraine. Putin accurately calculated that the United States would not stand aside from Hamas’s aggression against Israel, which is Israel’s strategic partner. Therefore, Putin hopes, US attention will shift to the war with Hamas rather than the war with Ukraine. To discredit the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia also transferred to Hamas American and other Western weapons that were captured in the war in Ukraine. And former Russian President Medvedev has already maliciously warned that if F-16 aircraft are transferred to Ukraine, then they too will be used by Hamas.

There should be no doubt - the war, which is already blazing in the Middle East at these moments, is a complement to the path to a full-scale war in the center of Europe - in Ukraine and the catalyst for its incitement is Russia. However, there is also no doubt who will win the war between Hamas and Israel. Hamas will regret in a few days that they carried out their cruel and stupid attack.

[pooya87]

For the first time in 50 years, part of Israel was captured by terrorists. The depth of penetration into Israeli territory, according to information from Israeli journalists, is up to 40 km in some cities. 23 Israeli settlements were captured. Moreover, the attackers showed unnecessary cruelty and indiscriminately killed civilians of all genders and ages.

Nice propaganda. Funny that this morning the Zionist terrorists' own Television published footage of Israeli women who clearly stated that freedom fighters of Hamas had treated them with respect and were only arresting the Zionist terrorists from IDF and the militia in the settlements as prisoners.
That's despite the fact that the Israeli terrorists had just used the internationally banned phosphorus bombs on a school murdering dozens of kids that very day.

These daring and barbaric actions of Hamas could lead to a colossal conflict (or a full-fledged war) that would involve almost all countries of the Arab world.

Nah, the terrorist organization called Israel is too weak to need any involvement from elsewhere. The plan is to weed out this cancerous cell from the region slowly this is why others like Lebanon with its 150k precision missiles haven't even bothered entering the conflict.

The only case anybody else would feel the need to enter it and expand the conflict is if United States makes the stupid mistake of attempting to help the terrorist organization.

As for Ukraine that you mentioned, since United States is in dire need of proxies in Syria they have been trying to evacuate their ISIS terrorists leaving the armed forces of Ukraine shorthanded. This will make Ukraine suffer specially in the gorilla warfare these terrorists were helping Ukraine with.

[khiholangkang]

The war between these two countries

It's not two "countries" though. Just as Ukraine and Donesk, Donbas aren't 2-3 countries. It is one country called Palestine that has majority of it under occupation. Gaza can not even be categorized as a country! It is more like a large prison.

What is happening in this war is because of the fight over the promised land and the heritage of their ancestors, not on politics or economics like other things. and as far as I can notice this war does not affect global politics and economic polarization so it is very unlikely to trigger a world war.

Only on paper. In truth this is actually tied to the World Order, the old and the new.
You see the fake country of Israel was created artificially a little more than 70 years ago after WW2 so that the Western hegemonies (basically United States) could have a wild dog in the most energy rich region of the world that not only controls the balance of power to be always tipping towards US to help US control the energy but also has access to East Mediterranean sea and one of the most strategic and economical chokepoints on earth called the Suez Canal controlling European economy (ie a rabid dog for both West Asia and Europe).

As the organization weakens and as the resistance takes back the occupied places (which may take a long time) US continues losing its power and the New World Order is solidified even more.

It seems that you have quite deep intelligence regarding several conflicts that have occurred in this region, and it seems that you are trying to explain that there is a common thread between all the events that have occurred and are currently occurring, including the agenda for the new world order.

I also see that there is some correlation with what America did if we look at World War Two, although this is very difficult to identify in general terms such as what is shown, but the tendency of what America did towards Israel shows an attitude that really Basically this is a strategy that aims as you say.

Some time ago I heard the latest news that when America responded to what Hamas and other allies were doing to bring in reinforcements to Israel, it seemed that other camps such as North Korea and Russia said that they would support Palestine. If you look deeper, this step will make it difficult for Uncle Sam to move.

Partisanship will show attitude, and may be a trigger for the two major world camps to show their arrogance.

There is something that is stuck in my mind, the western media says that what Hamas is doing is terrorist behavior, even though they are trying to take away their rights from the invaders.

[pooya87]

It seems that you have quite deep intelligence regarding several conflicts that have occurred in this region, and it seems that you are trying to explain that there is a common thread between all the events that have occurred and are currently occurring, including the agenda for the new world order.

I just live in West Asia so I follow everything that goes on around my country in a 2000km radius with extra attention. This is by far the most complex region in the world with the most complex events that are impossible to speculate on without seeing a much bigger picture as opposed to a limited view on a small battlefield for example.

Let me expand a little with some thoughts on how the Palestinian struggle falls into the World Order changing from the trade routs perspective.
The Old Word Order is where the West dominates the world, specially United States in the past 30-ish years. The Western trade routs and main dominance has been in the sea. For example we have major routes such as the Suez canal that majority of the trades go through. Majority of shipping companies, shipping insurance, etc. are also located and controlled by the West.
They also exert control over other countries using their dominance over the trade routes (both direct and through proxies). For example they seize shipment of a country they want to sanction for no good reason, just like pirates stealing loot!

In the New World Order, the East is gaining strength. Eastern hegemonies have existed long before the Western ones and have been trading through land for centuries. The best example is the famous Silk Road.
During this shift in the World Order, these land based trade routes are being revived in the modern sense of it. The best example of it is the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative.

Now when we look at these routes and the countries they pass through we see an interesting pattern of very suspicious series of destabilization. Open Google Maps and look at the countries (land) between Europe and China. You'll see what I mean and why there are wars breaking out in these countries and how every single one of those conflicts are either started by the Western hegemonies directly or indirectly through their proxies.

On the westmost part coming in from Mediterranean Sea we have:
Palestine: already occupied and a genocide is ongoing, so completely unstable and unsafe. The war is started by the West (when they created the fake country of Israel after WW2 and started the genocide of Palestinians) and is still fueled by the West. Palestine is one piece of this puzzle, and there is more...
Lebanon: has had problems with the Zionist regime and has some parts in its south occupied by them, struggles with security and is under severe sanctions, has economic issues
Syria: invaded by United States coalition and partially occupied, a war torn country with weak security struggling with terrorism and destabilizing invaders that are stealing its resources while the country itself is facing many economic problems

Deeper to the East we have:
Iraq: war torn from 20 years of United State invasion, struggles with security, terrorism and separatism
Azerbaijan and Armenia: small countries but have been at war destabilizing one of the routes. A war that is supported by the West and most recently by the Zionist regime too.
Iran: The most secure country in the region that US could never invade like others but instead is under the most number of sanctions that has prevented a big chunk of these trade routes from being connected to each other

On the final layer before China:
Afghanistan: Another war torn and insecure country that United States invaded and destroyed all its infrastructure making it difficult to provide security for such a trade route. Even more so when they handed over the country to a terrorist extremist group called the Taliban!
Pakistan: Not invaded or destroyed like others but it is struggling with its economy and governance with coups and foreign interventions.

If we go a little south across the Persian Gulf we have:
Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Yemen: Another US fueled war for the past 9 years (invasion of Yemen) that has destabilized the Arabian Peninsula

P.S. I didn't mention Turkey because as long as it is a NATO member it is counted as Western bloc even if they don't want it. There are other countries I skipped because my information is lacking but somewhat similar situation is happening there too like Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Mongolia, etc.

Some time ago I heard the latest news that when America responded to what Hamas and other allies were doing to bring in reinforcements to Israel, it seemed that other camps such as North Korea and Russia said that they would support Palestine. If you look deeper, this step will make it difficult for Uncle Sam to move.

From what I explained above, it is obvious why US has been fueling all these conflicts over the years.
By having in mind that the World Order is changing and how Russia is now on the opposite side as US we can know why all of a sudden (after 75 years of genocide) they decided to take side and support Palestine (even if only in talk).

There is something that is stuck in my mind, the western media says that what Hamas is doing is terrorist behavior, even though they are trying to take away their rights from the invaders.

That's the classic Western double standard. On one hand they are supporting Ukraine against the invaders, on the other hand they are supporting Zionist extremists that have invaded Palestine!
They also have to refer to any Palestinian who resists against genocide and invasion as terrorists because if they don't they can no longer silence their people who would ask "why is the side West supports dropping phosphorous bombs on schools and hospitals and is regularly killing children?".

[coupable]

For the first time in 50 years, part of Israel was captured by terrorists. The depth of penetration into Israeli territory, according to information from Israeli journalists, is up to 40 km in some cities. 23 Israeli settlements were captured. Moreover, the attackers showed unnecessary cruelty and indiscriminately killed civilians of all genders and ages.

According to what I understand from the vocabulary you use, you classify Hamas fighters as terrorists, which is the same classification adopted by Israel. Therefore, you consider what happened on their part to be a barbaric terrorist act targeting the lives of innocent people, right?
I would like to hear your opinion regarding the siege that Israel has imposed on Gaza for years after its withdrawal from it in 2005 (it was colonizing it militarily). Do you have any knowledge of how two million citizens (I prefer to call them refugees) live in camps on their own land? Did you know that Israel withholds most food supplies from them, prevents them from fishing, and constantly closes the crossings? Do you have any idea how two million people can live under siege for years without even the slightest international condemnation? Can you tell me why Israel has not been held accountable, even once, for the crimes committed by the IDF on a daily basis against defenseless citizens? I think you do not know that the Palestinians were taken from their land and became refugees there, and that thousands of them are detained in Israeli prisons (including children), in addition to more than six million refugees abroad.

[Argoo]

For the first time in 50 years, part of Israel was captured by terrorists. The depth of penetration into Israeli territory, according to information from Israeli journalists, is up to 40 km in some cities. 23 Israeli settlements were captured. Moreover, the attackers showed unnecessary cruelty and indiscriminately killed civilians of all genders and ages.

According to what I understand from the vocabulary you use, you classify Hamas fighters as terrorists, which is the same classification adopted by Israel. Therefore, you consider what happened on their part to be a barbaric terrorist act targeting the lives of innocent people, right?
I would like to hear your opinion regarding the siege that Israel has imposed on Gaza for years after its withdrawal from it in 2005 (it was colonizing it militarily). Do you have any knowledge of how two million citizens (I prefer to call them refugees) live in camps on their own land? Did you know that Israel withholds most food supplies from them, prevents them from fishing, and constantly closes the crossings? Do you have any idea how two million people can live under siege for years without even the slightest international condemnation? Can you tell me why Israel has not been held accountable, even once, for the crimes committed by the IDF on a daily basis against defenseless citizens? I think you do not know that the Palestinians were taken from their land and became refugees there, and that thousands of them are detained in Israeli prisons (including children), in addition to more than six million refugees abroad.

Relations between the peoples of Israel and Palestine are very complex, and the situation is unique, since the State of Israel was created by a UN decision in 1948. Most likely, the Palestinians have something to be offended by the Israelis. But the current Hamas attack on Israeli territory is stupid, reckless and cruel. It is stupid and reckless because such an attack cannot improve the situation of the Palestinians. On the contrary, they will suffer more from this action than the Israelis. Within a few hours of the attack, according to the information provided, up to 5,000 rockets were fired into Israeli territory, which exploded among residential areas. The rebel militants then began shooting indiscriminately at the civilian population, killing about 800 people. What was the purpose of this and what was the purpose of this attack? There was no way that just a thousand militants could have captured Israeli territory. Why did this need to be done? Someone just needed to make a lot of noise. But this is a topic for a separate conversation and we will not touch on it for now.

Further: didn’t those who planned this attack understand that there would be a response and, given the senseless cruelty of the attackers, the response would also be cruel? They should have understood this. But apparently they didn't care about Palestinian civilians. Most likely, the Israeli army will now enter the Gaza Strip and completely destroy Hamas there. At the same time, due to the conduct of hostilities, the civilian population will also suffer. If the calculation was to turn the entire Arab world against Israel, then it is unlikely to succeed. The United Arab Emirates has already warned Assad not to interfere in the conflict. But what is clear here is that Hamas has been used by other behind-the-scenes players, such as Putin's Russia.

[stompix]

According to what I understand from the vocabulary you use, you classify Hamas fighters as terrorists, which is the same classification adopted by Israel. Therefore, you consider what happened on their part to be a barbaric terrorist act targeting the lives of innocent people, right?

He's probably quoting Modi:
https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status/1710614655620534296

Narendra Modi
@narendramodi
Deeply shocked by the news of terrorist attacks in Israel. Our thoughts and prayers are with the innocent victims and their families. We stand in solidarity with Israel at this difficult hour.

Now if the president of the largest democracy in the world, a founding member of BRICS, a trading partner of Russia and China who defied the West, is using the word terrorist....

Also, since you say Palestinians are trapped there, can you explain why Egypt has built a fence on the southern border, dug a ditch in some places 10 meters deep, bombed the hell out of the tunnels, and even poured gas in some killing people, and is selectively allowing people to cross, denying men crossing for weeks at a time?
https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-africa-smuggling-02315a7bded8b986dff729587de2832a

Isn't this also a war crime?
Why is nobody criticizing Egypt for doing the same thing as Israel?

Now, to make fun again of the stupid topic title:
What other currency is most used in Palestine after the Israeli shekel?
Is it the ruble? Is it the Iranian rial? Noo, it's the USD! Ironic, right?