Saudi Professional League 2023/2024

[Volgastallion]

I have been very AFk in this past weeks but i need to catch up with the news in about major leagues around the world even this one who always bring some mayors transfers and shock to the market.

So i have to task right now, read part of the thread an recent post + go into transfermarkt and check what is going on.

[TelolettOm]

The Saudi league is not a very big league and Al Nassr is not such a big team that it needs a super coach.

Even Saudi league isn't a big league, the clubs in Saudi have the power to attract the super coach because they have the money. If you are following Saudi league news, you must already know Al Ittihad successfully hire Laurent Blanc. I am really sure Al Nassr also can do it, they also can have the chance to sign a better coach who have the same level as Laurent Blanc.

To give you an idea of ​​what I'm talking about, before Luís Castro became the coach of Al Nassr, he was the coach of Botafogo, which is a team in the first division of the Brazilian league. The Brazilian league is much better in terms of quality when compared to the Saudi professional league. While Luís Castro was the coach of Botafogo, I saw Botafogo playing very well, to the point that they were at the top of the league and looked like a team that could compete for the title.

Before you commented to my post, have read my post carefully?
You don't need to tell me about this, I know this very well. You must be aware that I enclosed the career history of Luís Castro. It is very clear in what teams/clubs he ever managed. In transfermarkt, it is easily to know what trophies he ever won as well: https://www.transfermarkt.com/luis-castro/erfolge/trainer/2063.

Dude, I don't compare between Brazilian league with SPL. I also don't want to compare Qatar league with SPL. I think you know well my point, I want to say if Al Nassr can get the coaches who have the success experiences in top league such as EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, or Eredivisie. Well, I know you will argue about the quality of Luís Castro but you can see he couldn't improve Al Nassr and get the target. So why don't to think about changing him? 

[tusandii]

As usual SPL clubs lose more in these friendly matches as we saw before some popular clubs in SPL also have previous losses so I will not bet on Al-Ettifaq.
I am not saying SPL clubs are bad but this issue is about betting to get a win because pre-season matches are not serious matches and we can take a chance to get profit.
From my analysis the possibility of the match can end 2-1 and 1 score for Al-Ettifaq.

The SPL is indeed a big league these days, but that's not a strong enough interpretation if they compete against teams from Europe, in Europe they're still in the same class as middle or lower teams.

BTW, your guess is almost correct for the score, Real Ovideo won this match with a score of Real Oviedo 3 - 2 Al-Ettifaq. Al-Ettifaq dominated the match for a while, but the final result didn't match that dominance, Real Oviedo +0.25 is easy money, is that your bet slip?

True what you said it is a fact that SPL may look big now but still not ready to face any European club unless a draw is a good result.
But that does not mean we are underestimating SPL, it's just that we are saying something about the fact that whatever happens SPL clubs still need a lot of time to be ready to face European clubs who have a bigger mentality.



Yes that's right, that was my bet and now I get my win from the result +0.25
Actually I need at least 3 or 5 matches to use multi bet and get higher odds but unfortunately some matches still have to wait for several days.

[Gallar]

Even Saudi league isn't a big league, the clubs in Saudi have the power to attract the super coach because they have the money. If you are following Saudi league news, you must already know Al Ittihad successfully hire Laurent Blanc. I am really sure Al Nassr also can do it, they also can have the chance to sign a better coach who have the same level as Laurent Blanc.

Yes, the Saudi Arabian League is not a big league judging from its popularity. However, since Ronaldo joined Al Nasr, the Saudi Arabian League has developed quite well in terms of popularity and quality. So currently the Saudi Arabian League can be said to be developing into a big and popular league. Because as you said, the Saudi Arabian League or its clubs have a lot of money to be able to make all that happen. So it is possible that in the next few seasons the Saudi Arabian League will be even more advanced. The reason is that currently Saudi Arabian League clubs have started recruiting new players or coaches. For example, the new coach who came to the Saudi Arabian League club, as we know, Laurent Blanc has now officially joined Al Ittihad. Then there are great players who have now joined clubs in Saudi Arabia

• Bento from Atletico who joined Al Nasr.
• Mousa Diaby from Aston Villa who joined Al Ittihad
• Houssem Aouar from AS Roma who joined Al Ittihad

Maybe after this there will be many other great players who have the opportunity to be brought in by Saudi Arabian League clubs. Then regarding coach Al Nasr, maybe this season Al Nasr still trusts Luis Castro as coach. Because I personally have not heard the news that Al Nasr will replace Luis Castro from the coaching chair this season. This makes sense, because Luis Castro has only been with Al Nasr for one season, so it is only natural that he will still be given the opportunity to continue coaching Al Nasr.

[AirtelBuzz]

A professional team will never depend on just one player because football is not a one man game. But by strengthening every position of a team, if someone like Neymar is placed in the attacking position, then it goes without saying that the performance of that team increases much more than before. Knowing that Neymar could get injured, Al Hilal signed Neymar to their club, but as always, Neymar was sidelined for the entire season due to injuries. Saudi club Al Hilal paid exorbitant salary to get Neymar for the whole season. If this club wanted, they could have released Neymar this season but they didn't do that, they have faith in Neymar again and they are waiting for Neymar to come

The vulnerability of Neymar Jr to injuries is stationed high and there'd everything to worry about him. He was once in his prime and have played for elite clubs, Santos, Barcelona and Paris Saint-Germain. Moving to SPL was a good choice for him although him been sidelined is just coincidence on injuries sustained on the pitch. Neymar Jr is potential talent, more reason why Al Hilal signed him was because of his extreme influence on social media and also his spectacular stats.

With or without Neymar, Al Hilal are not affected, their possible strength relies on the coach and the availability of players. The team stand out to be competitive and strong enough to withstand pressuring momentum from oppositions. Al Hilal will dive into actions in the new season, no relenting efforts but collective football style is obtained.

When Neymar first arrived at Barcelona, we could only guess that the Brazilian superstar would single-handedly break all the records of all previous players. He was injury free during his time at Barcelona and had a brilliant career but when he left Barcelona to join PSG for money, his career began to suffer. If he had focused on his career instead of giving priority to money at that time, he might have had many achievements to his name today. Won only one Champions League trophy that too while at Barcelona. PSG bought him from Barcelona for a record transfer fee, but he never played a full season there as he suffered serious injuries early or midway through each season and was sidelined for the entire season.  .
Although PSG accepted him for a long time, after Luis Enrique took charge of PSG, he did not accept Neymar at all and sold Neymar to Saudi club Al Hilal. Al Hilal are suffering from the same problem of signing Neymar to their club i.e. there is also Neymar's injury.

If I'm not mistaken, Neymar is probably the only player who has suffered the most injuries. At club level we never saw him fully fit in any season and even he was irregular for the national team mainly due to injuries. He is a great player but he has failed to showcase his strengths properly in the world of football as he has not been able to play most of the matches due to injuries. You are right when he was playing for Barcelona club he was absolutely and constantly participating in every match of the club even performing brilliantly. I think Neymar has missed a lot in his career due to injury problems.

If Neymar could have kept up his performances like he did while at Barcelona he might have won a Ballon d'Or by now. But that was not possible for him as he was erratic almost every season. Currently he is attached to the Saudi professional club, it does not seem that he will be able to improve his career with good performance from there.

[klidex]

The fact that he received such a serious injury is not his fault, I think everyone understands this, and his contract expires soon, they doubt that it will be extended. Neymar said that in 2025, when his contract ends, he will return to Santos, probably there he plans to finish his career.

Having a serious injury is not something that he did on purpose and he also did not want to experience something like this which should have contributed to Al Hilal, he instead rested more for a full season, Al Hilal should also have realized before recruiting this player from PSG that he was no longer young and he was also prone to injury but Al Hilal still insisted on buying him and even gave him a fairly high salary so this is also not Neymar's fault the club is pushing themselves too hard, but after his contract ends next season I think Al Hilal will not extend his contract because Al Hilal certainly does not want to feel a greater loss the club has also felt popularity since Neymar became an SPL player moreover no club is willing to buy Neymar at a higher price so it's time for the player to take a break football.

[nullama]

~snip~
Having a serious injury is not something that he did on purpose and he also did not want to experience something like this which should have contributed to Al Hilal, he instead rested more for a full season, Al Hilal should also have realized before recruiting this player from PSG that he was no longer young and he was also prone to injury but Al Hilal still insisted on buying him and even gave him a fairly high salary so this is also not Neymar's fault the club is pushing themselves too hard, but after his contract ends next season I think Al Hilal will not extend his contract because Al Hilal certainly does not want to feel a greater loss the club has also felt popularity since Neymar became an SPL player moreover no club is willing to buy Neymar at a higher price so it's time for the player to take a break football.

Of course, serious injuries are basically accidents, and clubs or players are usually insured for those kind of events.

I mean, if you are a football player that means your body is the way you make money, so you might as well insure it.

I think Jennifer Lopez insured her ass

[Arenga pinnata]

The SPL is indeed a big league these days, but that's not a strong enough interpretation if they compete against teams from Europe, in Europe they're still in the same class as middle or lower teams.

The SPL has indeed become a big league that is currently getting a lot of attention from football fans around the world. And it all started when Al-nassr brought in Cristiano Ronaldo. In the first season when Cristiano Ronaldo came to the SPL, I still saw that the playing style of the SPL clubs was quite mediocre. But last season when more European players came to SPL clubs, I immediately saw a drastic improvement in the way they played. And I even think the clubs in the SPL are getting stronger. And the competition is becoming fiercer because almost all teams are also competing to bring in star players from Europe. but yes, if we look at the overall level, teams from the SPL will probably still have difficulty competing with teams at the top such as in the Premier League, Serie A, Bundesliga and Laliga. But with other leagues such as the Portuguese League and the French League. I feel like the SPL is getting closer to it.

[Nheer]

The SPL is indeed a big league these days, but that's not a strong enough interpretation if they compete against teams from Europe, in Europe they're still in the same class as middle or lower teams.

SPL cannot still be compared with European leagues even though they have shown massive development in a few years they are still not up to that standards, they still need to keep improving for a few more years to level up. They now have a lot of European players but most of those player are too old to compete actively and that must be the reason why they lose to European teams.

I am not saying SPL clubs are bad but this issue is about betting to get a win because pre-season matches are not serious matches and we can take a chance to get profit.
From my analysis the possibility of the match can end 2-1 and 1 score for Al-Ettifaq.

You have a point, pre season matches are not matches to be taken seriously and it must be the reason why they end up losing as we have seen top European teams lose to smaller teams in this pre season games. When betting in pre season games you should always expect any outcome because of the approach teams take in this preseason games and that’s why i don’t bother to bet until the season starts.

[MAAManda]

The SPL is indeed a big league these days, but that's not a strong enough interpretation if they compete against teams from Europe, in Europe they're still in the same class as middle or lower teams.

BTW, your guess is almost correct for the score, Real Ovideo won this match with a score of Real Oviedo 3 - 2 Al-Ettifaq. Al-Ettifaq dominated the match for a while, but the final result didn't match that dominance, Real Oviedo +0.25 is easy money, is that your bet slip?

True what you said it is a fact that SPL may look big now but still not ready to face any European club unless a draw is a good result.
But that does not mean we are underestimating SPL, it's just that we are saying something about the fact that whatever happens SPL clubs still need a lot of time to be ready to face European clubs who have a bigger mentality.



Yes that's right, that was my bet and now I get my win from the result +0.25
Actually I need at least 3 or 5 matches to use multi bet and get higher odds but unfortunately some matches still have to wait for several days.

The current wave in the SPL is the same as the wave that occurred in the CSL several years ago, at that time many great players in major European leagues joined there just to get an unexpected salary. However, in the end the wave disappeared along with the weakening of clubs in the league, for example Guangzhou F.C. I don't expect the SPL to suffer the same fate, but that's what I'm thinking now.

About the bet slip, I don't think it was yours before, congrats on your win, @1.45 not bad odds for easy money. Let me know if there are more matches like this .

[rendravolt]

Al-Ittihad still has not won in their pre-season match and they just suffered another 3-1 defeat when facing a Portuguese team, Farense. I think Saudi league teams that play pre-season matches and face Portuguese teams always encounter difficulties and last time Al-Nassr felt the same thing after being beaten badly by Porto with 4 goals without reply.

With this, we can see that the quality of the top Saudi league teams is not better when facing teams from Europe and I think maybe only Al-Hilal can be proud of so far. Even though each team has improved by adding new recruits, for some reason they find it very difficult to win and if it is like this, it is not impossible that Al-Hilal will roam freely and unstoppable. Al-Ittihad must realize this and they will be quite embarrassed if they cannot compete again later.

[Jody.Drummer]

~snip~
Having a serious injury is not something that he did on purpose and he also did not want to experience something like this which should have contributed to Al Hilal, he instead rested more for a full season, Al Hilal should also have realized before recruiting this player from PSG that he was no longer young and he was also prone to injury but Al Hilal still insisted on buying him and even gave him a fairly high salary so this is also not Neymar's fault the club is pushing themselves too hard, but after his contract ends next season I think Al Hilal will not extend his contract because Al Hilal certainly does not want to feel a greater loss the club has also felt popularity since Neymar became an SPL player moreover no club is willing to buy Neymar at a higher price so it's time for the player to take a break football.

Of course, serious injuries are basically accidents, and clubs or players are usually insured for those kind of events.

I mean, if you are a football player that means your body is the way you make money, so you might as well insure it.

I think Jennifer Lopez insured her ass

No player wants to keep getting injured, but we also have to look at their habits when they are off the field, because in my opinion their lifestyle when they are off the field also influences a player's situation. We can see that many players fail because of their bad habits in maintaining their health. As a professional athlete they must be able to take care of their body, no matter whether they are at the club or on holiday, they must take care of their health.

I don't want to blame anyone here, because Al Hilal themselves must have hoped that there would be luck for them when they brought in Neymar, unfortunately that didn't happen and they instead had to see that players at high prices couldn't do anything for them. This can be a lesson for them and I also hope that the players will care about their own health so that they are not susceptible to injury.

[mammusu]

Al-Ittihad still has not won in their pre-season match and they just suffered another 3-1 defeat when facing a Portuguese team, Farense. I think Saudi league teams that play pre-season matches and face Portuguese teams always encounter difficulties and last time Al-Nassr felt the same thing after being beaten badly by Porto with 4 goals without reply.

With this, we can see that the quality of the top Saudi league teams is not better when facing teams from Europe and I think maybe only Al-Hilal can be proud of so far. Even though each team has improved by adding new recruits, for some reason they find it very difficult to win and if it is like this, it is not impossible that Al-Hilal will roam freely and unstoppable. Al-Ittihad must realize this and they will be quite embarrassed if they cannot compete again later.

Although the current Arab teams have continued to improve the quality of their squad by bringing in European players, this has not changed their mentality and performance when facing European teams, Al Ittihad has played two friendly matches now, the first against Sevilla and the  secondly face SC Farense, but in both matches they actually lost, against Sevilla, which is a La Liga team, Al Ittihad actually lost by a narrow score, however, when they faced SC Farense which is a Portuguese team, they actually lost badly, although Al Ittihad squad was still better than the owned by SC Farense this time
for face teams from Europe it seems that the Arab teams, especially Al Ittihad, are not very ready, but to face competition in the SPL next season of course they will be very ready.

[bitgolden]

Having a serious injury is not something that he did on purpose and he also did not want to experience something like this which should have contributed to Al Hilal, he instead rested more for a full season, Al Hilal should also have realized before recruiting this player from PSG that he was no longer young and he was also prone to injury but Al Hilal still insisted on buying him and even gave him a fairly high salary so this is also not Neymar's fault the club is pushing themselves too hard, but after his contract ends next season I think Al Hilal will not extend his contract because Al Hilal certainly does not want to feel a greater loss the club has also felt popularity since Neymar became an SPL player moreover no club is willing to buy Neymar at a higher price so it's time for the player to take a break football.

I would say that him not having any cause on the injury is true, he isn't responsible for that, but have we ever seen him try to rest and rehabitat and get back better? I mean even at PSG, he kept on getting more and more injured, dude played like 50 games in 3 seasons, there are players who play more than that in a single season, and you think that he is not responsible for any of them?

Sure if it was just one injury we would say that it was not his mistake, but if he keeps getting injured over and over again, then I would say that we are going to end up with some issues that will not be all unrelated to him, obviously he is not taking care of his body all that well and that's why he keeps getting injured so easily, if he trained his body better than he wouldn't have these issues.

In any case, he isn't that young anymore and I think it's not that important if he stays healthy or not, he is there just for the name anyway, so he could be used very little and just rested and not really put any stress on his body, I wouldn't even play him on all games, I would play him once ever two three games, so that he can rest and his body would heal and his name would still be out there anyway.

[CroverNo01]

Neymar is a good player, and his problem at PSG was only that he had a very large salary and for PSG over time this became a problem that they wanted to get rid of. There were also some moments with discipline, there were no big conflicts, but PSG wanted to get rid of Neymar, and Al Hilal helped them with this.

The fact that he received such a serious injury is not his fault, I think everyone understands this, and his contract expires soon, they doubt that it will be extended. Neymar said that in 2025, when his contract ends, he will return to Santos, probably there he plans to finish his career.

SPL have peaks and interesting sectors, we now watch their games because the elite clubs forced their way to sign big names from European football and Neymar Jr is one of them. The Brazilian have surpased his prime and watched him sidelined for months because of the crucial injury he sustained. It's quite unfortunate because there's absolutely no contributing factors that will come from him, however Al Hilal are tough enough to handle their own problems and it becomes easy for them with or without key players.

[Adiljutt156]

~snip~

Btw yesterday Al Hilal played against one of the newly promoted clubs in Serie A but Al Hilal was able to beat them, this is good news for SPL clubs that they are not only strong against clubs in their own league, I think SPL will soon become a competitive league.

Well, that's what I mean and we know that Al-Hilal is not a team that relies on star players for performance issues. The proof is that they can still beat European teams that are being promoted to the main division and here we can see that in fact the comparison of Al-Hilal's quality with European teams is not much different.

So, Neymar is like a club icon and with expensive purchases and big salaries, of course it won't bother him even if he doesn't play. But sometimes Neymar also has to feel embarrassed towards the team that paid him and I hope he can focus on recovering soon considering that he has spent one season for free and has never even been on the bench. His contract with Al-Hilal has one season left and I think if his name is still profitable for Al-Hilal then he will be extended again.

Anyway, congratulations on your winning bet.

Both teams played very well in this match even though it was only a friendly match, If we have seen that every team that plays in a friendly match only uses a reserve squad and young players, but not in the Al Hillal and Como match, both teams seem to take the match very seriously to test the mentality and performance of their main players so that their fielded almost all the main players in the match, the two coaches saw that the match seemed to be a good match to see how big the strengths and weaknesses of their teams  before the league started, the only player who was Still absent from Al Hillal's squad is Neymar who still has to recover from his ligament injury, the injury suffered by Neymar at the start of last season was a big loss for Al Hillal who spent a lot to recruit him but fortunately they still have Mitrovic who appears quite consistently in the front line, Neymar injury may be a big loss for the team performance but not for their current finances, because when he first joined Al Hillal in 2023, sales of Neymar jerseys increased drastically and in just 7 hours more than 10,000 jerseys were sold,So it is very likely that the sales of these jerseys can cover their expenses when buying Neymar from PSG, because Al Hillal is a team that has a very large fan base in the Arab Super League.

Yes, But I think Al Hilal team much much stronger than Como football team . They have capacity to win match against any team with high margin. The players of that team are in form and they could be dangerous at some extent but I think Como is also not a small team and they have good strikes abd their team has full strength. They can qualify for next round because their performance is not bad . In last match they lose the match 0-1 but I think that is not bad performance and they can improve this because they did many mistakes due to which opponent team became successful to do goal in this match . Players should remain active and they should prove that they are winners.

[Gallar]

Although the current Arab teams have continued to improve the quality of their squad by bringing in European players, this has not changed their mentality and performance when facing European teams, Al Ittihad has played two friendly matches now, the first against Sevilla and the  secondly face SC Farense, but in both matches they actually lost, against Sevilla, which is a La Liga team, Al Ittihad actually lost by a narrow score, however, when they faced SC Farense which is a Portuguese team, they actually lost badly, although Al Ittihad squad was still better than the owned by SC Farense this time
for face teams from Europe it seems that the Arab teams, especially Al Ittihad, are not very ready, but to face competition in the SPL next season of course they will be very ready.

That's right, friend, the Saudi Arabian League teams cannot be said to have the same quality as the teams in Europe, even though currently they are bringing in many top players from Europe. Because the difference is that teams in Europe have players who have almost equal skills and quality, while teams in the Saudi Arabian League rely too much on top players who they bought from European clubs. For example, Al Ittihad, in this transfer market you could say that the team from the Saudi Arabian League is the most active in the transfer market. The reason is that Al Ittihad has brought in 2 new players from European clubs. But they still couldn't beat teams from Europe. Maybe in essence Al Ittihad currently lacks good balance in its squad. Because it would definitely be useless if, for example, Al Ittihad had a great forward player like Benzema, but for example the midfielder or winger wasn't that good. So it is certain that Benzema will have difficulty getting opportunities to score goals.

Apart from that, after seeing Al Ittihad's match this time, I have a little doubt that Al Ittihad will be able to compete closely with big teams like Al Hilal and Al Nasr. Because I see that Al Ittihad has not experienced significant progress in its performance. Maybe before next season starts, Laurent Blanc as the new coach of Al Ittihad must really work hard to create strategies and attack combinations that are suitable for his team. Because if it's not like that, I'm sure Al Ittihad will again suffer the same fate as this season. Because actually the players currently owned by Al Ittihad can be said to be of quite good quality. So Laurent Blanc's role as Al Ittihad coach must be to be able to build good chemistry at Al Ittihad and place the right players in their most comfortable positions. Only then could Laurent Blanc come up with a really good strategy.

[klidex]

Yes, But I think Al Hilal team much much stronger than Como football team . They have capacity to win match against any team with high margin. The players of that team are in form and they could be dangerous at some extent but I think Como is also not a small team and they have good strikes abd their team has full strength. They can qualify for next round because their performance is not bad . In last match they lose the match 0-1 but I think that is not bad performance and they can improve this because they did many mistakes due to which opponent team became successful to do goal in this match . Players should remain active and they should prove that they are winners.

Usually SPL clubs and European clubs perform better, European clubs may be because they are used to fierce competition and the many matches they play, but in reality SPL clubs are not that weak, they also appear strong, defeating European clubs. Como cannot be said to be a strong club because it is a club that has just been promoted so its performance is not too stable, but this friendly match is very important to bring together clubs from other leagues to see their potential. Al Hilal is the strongest club in the SPL. This victory has become commonplace and there is no need to be surprised.

[rendravolt]

It might be a bit late and here Steven Gerrard's squad some time ago also suffered a defeat in the pre-season match when facing the second caste Spanish team Real Oviedo with a narrow score of 3-2. Actually, this match was quite fierce considering the number of goals scored and also Al-Ettifaq could have actually won this match if they had not conceded two goals in the final minutes.

It is very unfortunate that Al-Ettifaq's defense weakened towards the end of the match and this is a focus that coach Steven Gerrard must pay attention to if he does not want to lose important points in the Saudi pro league match later. Because it is quite risky if there is already a victory in sight and it is lost because of a mistake in anticipating the opponent's attack. So this is a job that must be completed by Al-Ettifaq before it is too late.

[hyudien]

In the last 2 seasons, the Saudi Pro League has been the league that has become the center of attention, precisely after they recruited many well-known players who previously played in Europe. Yes, they are increasingly popular with the breakthroughs they make. This season they have made several moves to bring in well-known players. That makes us even more interested in seeing how the competition is in the Saudi Pro League.
There are teams that cannot improve after bringing in European players and there are teams that look increasingly good. That is something we often see and it is something that is normal, because players are not guaranteed that they will play better, it depends on how the team as a whole works. Next season Al Nassr is a team that really wants to become champions after they always lag behind Al Hilal, will that become a reality? we'll just wait later.