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September 16, 2024, 08:50:00 AM
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"Al Nassr's struggles under Luis Castro are alarming, especially considering the investment in Cristiano Ronaldo. The board's priorities seem misplaced, focusing on branding over trophies. With powerhouses Al-Ittihad and Al Hilal boasting experienced coaches like Laurent Blanc and Jorge Jesus, Al Nassr risks falling further behind. To compete, they need a coach who can match the tactical prowess of Blanc and Jesus. Until then, Ronaldo's presence alone won't secure titles."
Al Nassr has spent a lot of money to invest in players like Ronaldo and also other European stars, but so far their performance has not improved and obviously that makes their chances of winning the SPL this season will be very difficult, last season we could see if Ronaldo was still able to become the top scorer but his personal achievements were not accompanied by the success obtained by Al Nassr,  Al Nassr performance last season was not consistent at all even though players like Ronaldo were able to contribute to every game they played, but what happened last season is not a lesson for the current Al Nassr who continues to keep Luis Castro as a coach, I think the tactics and strategies applied by Luis Castro so far is very easy to read by Al Nassr opponents and we can see how difficult Luis Castro in to improve the mentality of his players in a match,  So I think this is very different from the ability possessed by Jorge Jesus as the coach of al hillal, although al nassr continues to accumulate star players in his squad but without the support of a qualified coach, of course they will continue to have difficulty in competing for the SPL title.

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September 16, 2024, 09:31:36 AM
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In my opinion, the Al Nassr board should have realized last season that Luis Castro was not able to bring good results, but the club's board kept the same coach. It seems to me that the goal of the Al Nassr board is to somehow make a profit from Ronaldo's image and not win titles. Because it is not normal that they do not think about hiring a good coach to win titles and this season the situation will be much worse because they have more than one strong team, unlike last season when they only had Al Hilal. Looking at the table for example:

I agree with that, I even said it last season for this Al Nassr coach. It's just that the club management still maintains Luis Casto to coach Al Nassr. IMO, Luis Casto should be able to bring Al Nassr to the top of the standings with the depth of players they have. Unfortunately, even though Al Nassr has a very competitive depth, the coach has not been able to bring this team to win the Saudi Pro League trophy. There are not many reasons for Al Nassr management at this time, other than giving the coach time to correct the team as a whole so that its performance improves.

Referring to the point you made, I don't agree with that. We know very well that Ronaldo is a very ambitious type of player to win a title wherever he competes. How could he be willing to join Al Nassr if he didn't have a chance to win this competition, besides if Al Nassr wins it means they will get more benefits plus Ronaldo's image.

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September 16, 2024, 12:53:54 PM
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The remaining time will see Al-Nassr take every opportunity that presents itself to avoid going down. The chase will be at a very high rate of pressure to ensure catching up, more so when the standings soon are starting to be threatened.
It should have been a good start to Ivan Tooney's career in his number 99 shirt at Al Ahli, And he would have been okay with helping his team to get three points from this game against Al Nassr even though he cannot score. The last minute equalizer for Al Nassr from an own goal took away all the joy that would have followed. Al Ahli will not be so happy with how they have started this season with them having just three points in just three games despite the team of talented players that they have.
Al Nassr are far from the top of the table, they need to sit up.
Now they are in 7th position with a gap of 4 points from the top of the standings, that is still a safe distance as long as they can recover quickly and get points in the next matches. There are still many matches because this is only the 3rd week, so they still have many opportunities to return to the top competition, as long as they have to do what I said before.
Now AL Nassr seems to be declining a little, that is because they have not been able to fix what has been their weakness in the last few seasons. There are many things that they have to fix quickly, this will be the coach's job. I think if the coach cannot bring a good game for Al Nassr soon, then his position will be threatened, so that should be a motivation for the coach.

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September 16, 2024, 01:24:32 PM
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I don't know if it is all about the coach, but you are probably right that it counts a lot. Though everyone would probably think that Al Nassr should have a realistic chance to win the title, too. But it seems that the big names on paper only count so much, and when it comes to putting the squad together and making every player to give their best, then Al Ittihad and Al Hilal have an edge as they also have better head coaches. Too many people thought that signing Ronaldo would be enough to win the title automatically. But as you could see in the game when they played against Al Hilal, he wasn't able to do anything.
Al Nassr invested huge amount for big players and there were expectations they are going to have good results, but sadly things are not going as expectations Al Nassr is also feeling no pressure as they are happy they are going good with Cristiano Ronaldo because this season again we are having not fair chances for them to create problems for titleholder Al Hilal with Al Ittihad and Al Ettifaq are impressive.

New promoted side Al Qadisiya suffer first defeat against Al Shahab as things are going we will have good challenges for top teams in coming weeks with in round 4 Al Ettifaq going to host Al Nassr and defending champions Al Hilal is going to host league leaders Al Ittihad.

Gerrard side doing good job in early games as after first poor season he is adjusted with conditions, and the team is also having good depth which helping to keep things for staying at the top level.

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Well until now the only team who have achieved anything despite being without his super star is the Al Hilal, they win everything and command in the league like they are the team to beat, and i repeat all of this without his key star and most valuable and expensive player who is Neymar.

The other arab teams incluiding Al Nassr, are in full debt and they win nithing special.

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September 16, 2024, 02:45:21 PM
Last edit: September 16, 2024, 02:56:26 PM by Solokan
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In my opinion, the Al Nassr board should have realized last season that Luis Castro was not able to bring good results, but the club's board kept the same coach. It seems to me that the goal of the Al Nassr board is to somehow make a profit from Ronaldo's image and not win titles. Because it is not normal that they do not think about hiring a good coach to win titles and this season the situation will be much worse because they have more than one strong team, unlike last season when they only had Al Hilal. Looking at the table for example:

indeed we don't know who is at fault behind Al-nassr's declining performance, but we can certainly see that the role of a coach is certainly very much needed and last season Al-nassr only managed to achieve runner up ranking but of course this is a good achievement but of course the fans Al-nassr, although last season Al-nassr only got the runner up ranking, they would definitely be even happier if Al-nassr became champion because in the 2022-2023 season Al-nassr also be runner up.

In this season, of course the hope of Al-Nassr fans and Cristiano Ronaldo fans is that they want to see Al-Nassr become champions, but of course if you look at the current situation, of course Al-Nassr will definitely have difficulties because when compared to the rival team Al-Nassr (Al-Hilal), of course Al-nassr's strength is very different because of course Al-hilal to this day has not experienced defeat in every match.

It is true that sometimes some people wonder why Luis Castro was able to be retained and continue to train at Al-Nassr. Yes, I think maybe the club management thinks that Castro will learn from last season's experience and they definitely think that Luis Castro will be better at training his men so that Al-Nassr has great potential to be better than last season. But of course we'll see what happens at the end of this season and whether Luis Castro is retained or not, but what is clear is that there are still big hopes for Luis Castro to be able to train his men to be better because it is still early in the season.

However, we don't know the goals of the Al-Nassr management, but yes, I can only hope that Al-Nassr can win and return to competing fiercely with Al-Hilal. But yes, what you say is true, of course this season there will definitely be tougher challenges that Al-Nassr will face because of course it's not just Al-Hilal that will be an obstacle for Al-Nassr to win the title.











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September 16, 2024, 02:54:32 PM
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Well until now the only team who have achieved anything despite being without his super star is the Al Hilal, they win everything and command in the league like they are the team to beat, and i repeat all of this without his key star and most valuable and expensive player who is Neymar.

The other arab teams incluiding Al Nassr, are in full debt and they win nithing special.
Al Hillal is currently an unbeaten team in two seasons of the Arab League, last season Al Hillal managed to win the Arab League title by leaving Al Nassr quite far in the standings and even they were able to win the championship trophy with 34 matches without defeat, Al Hillal unbeaten record last season continues until this season where they are still able to maintain the record, Neymar injury since the beginning of last season has not had any effect on Al Hillal game so far, so indeed what we see at Al Hillal this season  a form of extraordinary teamwork without relying on star players.

Regarding debt, to be honest, what happened to Al Nassr who is in debt seems to be an old problem that has been resolved,  Because as far as I know, if Al Nassr has not paid off the debt of 390 thousand pounds to Leicester City which was compensation for the purchase of Ahmad Musa in 2018, then currently Al Nassr cannot register its new players, but in fact currently Al Nassr can register their new players to the Arab League authorities, because previously the FIFA disciplinary committee prohibited the registration of new players if the debt had not been paid off.

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September 16, 2024, 03:26:50 PM
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There is interesting news about Neymar in Al Hilal and it seems they are disappointed about this player. Neymar was a good player before he joined PSG in the last years but recently his performance has been disappointing and even when he joined Al Hilal he was injured. It seems even after he is back in the field he won't be able to perform well like the other players.
Now since Al Hilal's list is full they won't take a risk and it seems Al Hilal decided to remove the name of Neymar from the list of the Saudi League games, so they will just use this player in the AFC Champions League during this season.


The return date for Neymar is still uncertain. Hence, there is a need to remove him from the team. Al Hilal had to decide to abide by the regulations of the Saudi Professional League. The league recently increased the amount of non-Saudi players in a club from eight to ten. To register the new signing Renan Lodi, Neymar would have to be removed for the rest of the season. I predict that his contract might not be renewed immediately after it expires. Severe injuries might be the undoing of one of the finest footballers Brazil has produced.

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September 16, 2024, 03:46:33 PM
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The return date for Neymar is still uncertain. Hence, there is a need to remove him from the team. Al Hilal had to decide to abide by the regulations of the Saudi Professional League. The league recently increased the amount of non-Saudi players in a club from eight to ten. To register the new signing Renan Lodi, Neymar would have to be removed for the rest of the season. I predict that his contract might not be renewed immediately after it expires. Severe injuries might be the undoing of one of the finest footballers Brazil has produced.
Renewing Neymar contract will definitely be a mistake for Al Hilal because I think they haven't enjoyed him the way they thought it will be, quite right Neymar is a good player but I considered him not to be lucky with his football career like so potential players whose names are still trending up to date, but Neymar has failed Al Hilal expectations because of his injuries. Al Hilal are the strongest team in Saudi currently assuming they all rely on Neymar to take them to the promise land by now they will be in relegation zone but unfortunately they still have the best players that keep them going to the top.


In today's game Cristiano Ronaldo is not in the lineup against Al Shorta vs Al Nassr for the AFC Champions League which will start in few more minutes.

Al Shorta vs Al Nassr

Al Shorta predicted XI: Fadhil (GK); Jasim, Hashem, Younis, Yahya; Khudhair, Niang, Coumbassa, Farhan; Saleh; Al-Mawas

Al Nassr predicted lineup (4-2-3-1):
Bento (GK); Al Ghanam, Simakan, Laporte, Al Najdi; Al-Khaibari, Otavio, Brozovic; Ghareeb, Talisca; Mane

Mane felt so bad about Ronaldo absent to the extent that he said if the win they will dedicate the victory to him. Wish them best of luck.

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September 16, 2024, 04:01:42 PM
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Now they are in 7th position with a gap of 4 points from the top of the standings, that is still a safe distance as long as they can recover quickly and get points in the next matches. There are still many matches because this is only the 3rd week, so they still have many opportunities to return to the top competition, as long as they have to do what I said before.
Now AL Nassr seems to be declining a little, that is because they have not been able to fix what has been their weakness in the last few seasons. There are many things that they have to fix quickly, this will be the coach's job. I think if the coach cannot bring a good game for Al Nassr soon, then his position will be threatened, so that should be a motivation for the coach.
The problems in Al-Nassr's back line have not yet been completely resolved. Currently Al-Nassr may be able to cover their weaknesses a little with the presence of Bento as their new goalkeeper but that is not enough. Because their back line players also have to be improved again with better ones. And another problem is that the accuracy in utilizing opportunities in Al-Nassr's attack line is also not very good. Talisca and Sadio Mane quite often miss the opportunities they have. I understand that Talisca has declined after he was injured last season. But for Mane, to be honest, I'm a little disappointed.

In contrast to Al-nassr, we see that Al-Ittihad seems to have been able to improve on their weaknesses last season by becoming better this season. And all the players that Al-ittihad managed to bring in in the transfer market have proven to make Al-ittihad even stronger today. Especially Mousa Diaby, this young player has made Al-ittihad more stable in the game. Even Benzema seems to have risen to become the best player again this season. We'll see that in the Al-ittihad match against Al-Wehda, Benzema even scored a hat trick in that match. And regarding Mousa Diaby, even though he didn't score a goal in that match, he made many contributions that made Al-ittihad superior in that match. The season is still long and Al-Nassr must get up quickly if they don't want to be left behind by Al-ittihad and Al-hilal.

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Benzema made a nice return with Al-Ittihad. He has scored so far 4 goals in two matches, including a hattrick in the latest match against Al-Wehda which was destroyed by Al-Ittihad by 7 goals to 1!

Well until now the only team who have achieved anything despite being without his super star is the Al Hilal, they win everything and command in the league like they are the team to beat, and i repeat all of this without his key star and most valuable and expensive player who is Neymar.

The other arab teams incluiding Al Nassr, are in full debt and they win nithing special.
Sometimes I forgot that Neymar is playing with Al-Hilal since he doesn't play anything in reality and he is with the team on paper only. Besides, Al-Hilal has already many good and decisive players like Mitrovic, Malcolm, Milinkovic-Savic, without forgetting their excellent goalkeeper Bounou and some good Saudi players.
The other teams count on less foreigners stars, generally two.
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Benzema made a nice return with Al-Ittihad. He has scored so far 4 goals in two matches, including a hattrick in the latest match against Al-Wehda which was destroyed by Al-Ittihad by 7 goals to 1!
Benzema has very good skills as he shown in many seasons especially amazing seasons after Cristiano Ronaldo left Real Madrid and Benzema became a main striker there. His problems are ageing, weaker body and more sensitive with injuries but in matches when he are ready, his performances are excellent, and I am not surprised about this.

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Sometimes I forgot that Neymar is playing with Al-Hilal since he doesn't play anything in reality and he is with the team on paper only. Besides, Al-Hilal has already many good and decisive players like Mitrovic, Malcolm, Milinkovic-Savic, without forgetting their excellent goalkeeper Bounou and some good Saudi players.
The other teams count on less foreigners stars, generally two.
Neymar career is at risk of ending sooner than expected and I feel that he is trying to play and wait for World Cup 2026 that can be a last World Cup of Neymar for Brazil. His national team has terrible decrease in quality recent years and they are facing with risk of not be qualified for World Cup 2026. Before that, Neymar must resolve his injury, recovery first and need to return well in Al-Hilal.

There is interesting news about Neymar in Al Hilal and it seems they are disappointed about this player. Neymar was a good player before he joined PSG in the last years but recently his performance has been disappointing and even when he joined Al Hilal he was injured. It seems even after he is back in the field he won't be able to perform well like the other players.


Spending millions of dollar for a star player who only can play 5 matches for your club after more than one season, what club can feel happy about this? Al-Hilal actually expected many more things from Neymar with very lucrative salary they were ready to pay for him when signing that contract.

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September 16, 2024, 04:12:18 PM
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Benzema made a nice return with Al-Ittihad. He has scored so far 4 goals in two matches, including a hattrick in the latest match against Al-Wehda which was destroyed by Al-Ittihad by 7 goals to 1!

Benzema is currently Al Ittihad's top scorer along with Houssem Auoar with 3 goals. Although they are still behind the 6 goals scored by Aleksandar Mitrovic from Al Hilal. However, Al Ittihad has achieved good results, they are at the top of the standings with full points from 3 matches and are unbeaten. That's with 2 other teams, Al Hilal and Al Ettifaq. While Al Nassr have not lost in 3 matches, but they have to be satisfied with 1 win and 2 draws. Al Nassr must work hard for the competition.

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September 16, 2024, 04:40:51 PM
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It is very clear that Al-Hilal's goal in buying Neymar Jr is to bring more exposure to their club and league, because Neymar Jr has quite a lot of fans especially those based in the Americas, but unfortunately this is a failed calculation in my opinion because Neymar has almost never played for his club because of the serious injury he suffered.
If the purpose is for a more exposure, there are other players who deserve more than Neymar. Sure, it is no problem to sign Neymar to invite a more people to the club or to the Saudi league. However, it is very unfortunate if Al Hilal signed a player who rarely play for the team. Al Hilal spent a lot of money for Neymar, it is better to spend the money for a player who can play regularly.

For Al-Hilal money is not a problem but they can't get what Al-Nassr got by bringing Ronaldo to the club because the club is getting more famous, I can see in my country how many Al-Nassr Jerseys are the choice to have and it is very different from Al-Hilal by bringing Neymar, and that is very unfortunate.
So the aim of Al-Hilal's investment in Neymar is to make this club more famous, not just to be successful in the league by buying young players.
Al Hilal may have no problem to spend huge money on Neymar. But it seems not worth it, spending a lot of money for a prone of injury player. Why don't Al Hilal tries to sign de Bruyne? Or try to sign other popular players who often becomes the candidate of Baloon D'Or. Signing a player for the exposure purpose and for the investment as well, this should be done by Al Hilal.



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September 16, 2024, 04:56:50 PM
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Benzema is currently Al Ittihad's top scorer along with Houssem Auoar with 3 goals. Although they are still behind the 6 goals scored by Aleksandar Mitrovic from Al Hilal. However, Al Ittihad has achieved good results, they are at the top of the standings with full points from 3 matches and are unbeaten. That's with 2 other teams, Al Hilal and Al Ettifaq. While Al Nassr have not lost in 3 matches, but they have to be satisfied with 1 win and 2 draws. Al Nassr must work hard for the competition.
Al-Nassr really has to work harder this season if they want to improve their ranking in the Saudi Pro League standings. And it seems that Luis Castro as Al-Nassr coach has not yet completely found a better strategy this season. Because Al-Nassr still looks the same as last season, it could even be said to have experienced a slight decline this season. But because this is only the start of the season, there is still plenty of time for Al-Nassr to improve their performance. But the problem is that Al-Nassr will be far behind if they lose points in the next match so Al-Nassr can no longer experience a draw and of course Al-Nassr also cannot experience defeat this season if they want to continue fighting for the title. Because currently Al-Hilal and Al-Ittihad have also continued to win since the season started. Al-Ettifaq even showed results that were as good as Al-hilal and Al-ittihad, who were unbeaten.











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September 16, 2024, 05:57:24 PM
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Al-Nassr really has to work harder this season if they want to improve their ranking in the Saudi Pro League standings. And it seems that Luis Castro as Al-Nassr coach has not yet completely found a better strategy this season. Because Al-Nassr still looks the same as last season, it could even be said to have experienced a slight decline this season. But because this is only the start of the season, there is still plenty of time for Al-Nassr to improve their performance. But the problem is that Al-Nassr will be far behind if they lose points in the next match so Al-Nassr can no longer experience a draw and of course Al-Nassr also cannot experience defeat this season if they want to continue fighting for the title. Because currently Al-Hilal and Al-Ittihad have also continued to win since the season started. Al-Ettifaq even showed results that were as good as Al-hilal and Al-ittihad, who were unbeaten.
That's right, Al Nassr must immediately improve to be able to compete in the top four of the standings, in order to maintain their hopes of winning the trophy this season. The competition at the top of the standings is getting tighter, involving more undefeated teams. If Al Hilal continues its positive trend by being undefeated, then it will be impossible for other clubs to snatch the trophy from their hands. Al Nassr chances of reducing the points gap are still very large, especially when they face each other in the future. Let's see if Ronaldo and his colleagues will be able to do it next week, when they face Al Ettifaq who are currently performing impressively and are also undefeated.

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September 16, 2024, 06:01:49 PM
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Regarding bad behavior off the field, there are many players from Brazil that we can mention, Adriano is one very relevant example, he illustrates how short his football career was because of it. As for talent, I think all tongues will admit how great the players who come from Latin America are. Neymar seems to be following in the footsteps of one of the Brazilian legends, injury problems are another factor that makes him potentially retire earlier than everyone expected. Meanwhile, I am quite sure Al Hilal will not regret recruiting Neymar, they certainly already know that Neymar is very often injured, what is needed from Neymar is his big name to boost the prestige of the Saudi pro League in the eyes of the world. Reportedly, Neymar still needs two more months to be able to play again, most likely until the end of December, because his injury has not fully recovered. Source: https://sport.detik.com/sepakbola/bola-dunia/d-7531347/lututnya-belum-pulih-comeback-neymar-molor-2-bulan
In soccer, sometime clubs done blind investments which can bring good fortune or in case of failure still they never regret about their decision same happen in this case after exit from PSG we never have anything positive about Neymar with now he is out of playing squad for the Al Hilal which is good because they can do better from this exit and concentrate on other players those are doing good job.

In last few years we are having too many problematic players from Latin America even their talent and skills are amazing but their off the field issues bringing frustration for their clubs and fans as well.

Now it's time for them to have changes into their attitude before this gone too late, and they lost their charm and having troubles which can surely bring serious problems for many future sensations.

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September 16, 2024, 07:29:41 PM
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"Al Nassr's struggles under Luis Castro are alarming, especially considering the investment in Cristiano Ronaldo. The board's priorities seem misplaced, focusing on branding over trophies. With powerhouses Al-Ittihad and Al Hilal boasting experienced coaches like Laurent Blanc and Jorge Jesus, Al Nassr risks falling further behind. To compete, they need a coach who can match the tactical prowess of Blanc and Jesus. Until then, Ronaldo's presence alone won't secure titles."
Al Nassr has spent a lot of money to invest in players like Ronaldo and also other European stars, but so far their performance has not improved and obviously that makes their chances of winning the SPL this season will be very difficult, last season we could see if Ronaldo was still able to become the top scorer but his personal achievements were not accompanied by the success obtained by Al Nassr,  Al Nassr performance last season was not consistent at all even though players like Ronaldo were able to contribute to every game they played, but what happened last season is not a lesson for the current Al Nassr who continues to keep Luis Castro as a coach, I think the tactics and strategies applied by Luis Castro so far is very easy to read by Al Nassr opponents and we can see how difficult Luis Castro in to improve the mentality of his players in a match,  So I think this is very different from the ability possessed by Jorge Jesus as the coach of al hillal, although al nassr continues to accumulate star players in his squad but without the support of a qualified coach, of course they will continue to have difficulty in competing for the SPL title.

If the team did spend a lot of money to buy such a player, I'm more than sure they only spent a fraction of it and the rest was covered by their local organisation as it was done for PR purposes for the local football league. And it worked, because other world stars followed Ronaldo. Yes, they come to finish their careers mostly, but still. Sooner or later maybe they will be able to develop the league to the point where young players will come too

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September 16, 2024, 11:24:00 PM
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If the team did spend a lot of money to buy such a player, I'm more than sure they only spent a fraction of it and the rest was covered by their local organisation as it was done for PR purposes for the local football league. And it worked, because other world stars followed Ronaldo. Yes, they come to finish their careers mostly, but still. Sooner or later maybe they will be able to develop the league to the point where young players will come too

I think there is still this misleading idea that if you have Ronaldo on your team, you will immediately win all games. That was what they thought when they signed him and yet they were barely able to win anything. I don't know, but I believe they won one title and that is it. They lost big time in the league and are now falling behind again already.

It reminds me a little bit of PSG. They thought they would be winning the Champions League easily when they had Neymar, Mbappe and Messi on the team and yet they had no chance to win the title. Or maybe they did have a chance, but couldn't ultimately make it. Ronaldo is not a magician anymore. He was almost nowhere to be seen against Al Ahli despite the fact that he has several good players around him. Somehow Al Ahli is managing to stay ahead very convincingly while Al Nassr dropped points two times already.

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September 16, 2024, 11:58:39 PM
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Al Nassr team definitely had enough chances to win here, but Al Nassr team can perform well in the attacking department. Sadio means he performed well enough but did not finish well, he also missed many attacks. And opposite side Shorta they are performing quite aggressively in this match. Al Nassr team made a total of 17 attacks in the whole match, and the opposite team hit the goal post with 5 attacks.  Al Nassr team drew this game even though there was such a difference in attack in this match, but in the absence of Cristiano Ronaldo, Al Nassr team could not use the attacks properly in this game.

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