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January 06, 2023, 10:56:33 PM
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actually memorizing phrases is better than writing or copying on a piece of paper or a flashdisk, but the level of difficulty memorizing is an obstacle that everyone often faces.
so saving the phrase is all you can do to keep it safe
if you ask whether it is recommended or not it returns to each individual whether it is necessary or not we memorize it

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January 06, 2023, 11:05:08 PM
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I read that one of the best ways to preserve a seed phrase is to write it on a piece of paper and keep it in a safe place... Somewhere safe could be in your home out of the reach of family members and friends, it could also be a safe deposit box. But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

I believe we must have seen or heard about fire outbreaks, where buildings are completely erased by fire. Imagine if the owner or occupant of such a building has some Bitcoin assets, and has his/her phone, tablet, laptop and the seed phrase piece of paper in the building and everything was lost to fire. Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

There's no universal best way, it all depends on what kind of threat you think is the most likely. If you worry about other people in your house stealing your coins - you should store your seed or wallet file in encrypted format. If you worry about a house fire and can't get a fire-proof safe - you should find additional place to story a backup of your seed.

Memorizing your seed is a bad backup option, our memory wasn't created to store random data perfectly, even remembering 12 words in order is a challenge for us. How it will look on practice is that even if you have no problems with memorizing it, in the long run you will likely forget parts of your seed, potentially making it unrecoverable.

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January 06, 2023, 11:23:03 PM
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It's very risky, I just have to remember it and not write it down on paper because I know I might forget it someday because I don't use it every day. In the early days you can remember it so easily but you don't know if you will still remember it easily a few months later. Forgetting even 1 word you will not be able to access your wallet and it is a nightmare. So, writing it down on paper and keeping it in a safe place is the best choice.
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January 07, 2023, 12:45:48 AM
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actually memorizing phrases is better than writing or copying on a piece of paper or a flashdisk, but the level of difficulty memorizing is an obstacle that everyone often faces.
Amongst all the bad choices to store a seed phrase, memorizing it is worst of them all. There is nothing better, easier and safer than writing your recovery phrase on a piece of paper; if you try to invent new and untrusted methods of storing your recovery phrase, you are only shooting yourself in the foot, and moving nearer to locking yourself out of your own money.
if you ask whether it is recommended or not it returns to each individual whether it is necessary or not we memorize it
It isn't an individual thing, it is about the safety of people's money, that is why memorizing a recovery phrase is not recommended for anyone.

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January 07, 2023, 01:31:55 AM
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Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?
Yes, your seed phrase can be memorized in fact I would say go for it, if that is what you want. The human brain is susceptible to wear and tear. For instance, the individual who may have memorized the seed phrase may suffer from Amnesia or Dementia.  Therefore, it should only act as a backup after you have secured it in washers and inserted it an airtight container as suggested in the post by fillippone

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January 07, 2023, 01:54:44 AM
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I read that one of the best ways to preserve a seed phrase is to write it on a piece of paper and keep it in a safe place... Somewhere safe could be in your home out of the reach of family members and friends, it could also be a safe deposit box. But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

I believe we must have seen or heard about fire outbreaks, where buildings are completely erased by fire. Imagine if the owner or occupant of such a building has some Bitcoin assets, and has his/her phone, tablet, laptop and the seed phrase piece of paper in the building and everything was lost to fire. Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?
Well, you sure have a point here but i personally would not advice anyone to try to memorize their seed phrase, but even one must do so, do not do it and rule out the writing down and keeping in a safe place tradition, to avoid loosing the seed phrase in the case of fire outbreak, i would suggest we find somewhere around our homes, dig it and bury the seed phrase there after having packaged it in a way it wont be destroyed by heat, cold, rain and earthworms.
This does not stop us from writing one and keeping it safe inside our homes, the one buried outside should act as an emergency recovery if for any reason, the one inside our home is not accessible to us..

Though the above, is for those who can not avoid a safe box.

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January 07, 2023, 04:16:47 AM
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There are a lot of ways that an online account can be hacked that doesn't require brute forcing or that much effort. The most common way is stealing users' password through phishing attacks in which case it doesn't matter how long the password were!
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January 07, 2023, 04:53:07 AM
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If you can memorize them, that's great, but it's not wise to use only one method to store the seed phrase, so combine multiple methods together because if unfortunately one day we will not be able to remember. I also memorize my seed phrases, but I also copy them down on paper and keep them in safe places.
To be honest, there were a few times when I couldn't remember all the words and I had to resort to copies to help me access the property. It's really risky to just keep them in our heads.

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January 07, 2023, 05:04:16 AM
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I read that one of the best ways to preserve a seed phrase is to write it on a piece of paper and keep it in a safe place... Somewhere safe could be in your home out of the reach of family members and friends, it could also be a safe deposit box. But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

I believe we must have seen or heard about fire outbreaks, where buildings are completely erased by fire. Imagine if the owner or occupant of such a building has some Bitcoin assets, and has his/her phone, tablet, laptop and the seed phrase piece of paper in the building and everything was lost to fire. Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?
Seed phrase is an important key that can contain all your life savings. Considering its importance, it definitely deserves maximum security. Otherwise you can lose everything in an instant. It can be write on a piece of paper but if it is keep on a digital platform it will be safe to protect it from fire or any other form of damage. Remembering the seed phrase is risky and can be all over if you make a mistake. So I think it's safe to write it down. A user can keep it where it is convenient considering its maximum security. However, if the password is stored in a safe place, he will be able to easily remember the short password of that platform for login where the seed phrase is usually longer that will be comparatively difficult to remember.

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January 07, 2023, 05:14:57 AM
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Good question, I actually thinking this a few years ago but I haven't think of doing it as that is really risky. Imagine that people will get old and the brain won't probably remember it if you are not trying to write it on a daily basis or recite it. It is much better to have a backup but if you really wanted to make it safe there are some alternatives that I think before.

1. You can write down the privatekey and change 1-3 words and that's the only word you should memorize - it is safe and at the same time you will only memorize few words and even if people will see your private key they don't know which word is the fake and what is the right word for that.


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January 07, 2023, 08:43:20 AM
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I read that one of the best ways to preserve a seed phrase is to write it on a piece of paper and keep it in a safe place... Somewhere safe could be in your home out of the reach of family members and friends, it could also be a safe deposit box. But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

I believe we must have seen or heard about fire outbreaks, where buildings are completely erased by fire. Imagine if the owner or occupant of such a building has some Bitcoin assets, and has his/her phone, tablet, laptop and the seed phrase piece of paper in the building and everything was lost to fire. Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

Yes, the seed phrase can be remembered. 

To do this, you need to use special techniques for memorizing information, which are actively used in practice by intelligence agents and mafia bosses. 

One of these methods is shown in detail in the series about Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson.  This method is called Mind Halls.  You come up with some room (for example, a castle or a tavern) and place objects there that help you remember information. 

You can place items in your Mind Halls that will help you remember the seed phrase from your Bitcoin wallet.

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January 07, 2023, 10:13:24 AM
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I believe a lot depends on your memory and what sort of person you are. I have an okay memory, but it's not exceptional and worse than many might have, so I know that I won't be able to retain the seed for a long time in my memory. I can memorize it, I can recall it, but I am not confident at all that I will never forget it. So for me, this isn't the right way, as I don't think a chance of me being robbed/hacked is higher than a chance that I'll simply forget the phrase. I also don't fully trust myself to remember where it's physically written down and to not accidentally leave it somewhere or destroy it while cleaning. So this isn't the approach I support either.

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January 07, 2023, 10:52:14 AM
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The best way, in my opinion, is to write the phrase down on a fire-resistant steel metal and hide it in a place where no one will find it except you. I don't think that the best way is to memorize the seeds phrase because words can be forgotten or someone could even misarrangement  the seed phrase words.

But it's a good thing to have a variety of solutions for protecting your seed phrase.It's a good idea to practice and memorize your seed phrase in case something like a war breaks out and many of the buildings or locations where you may hide your seed phrase may be destroyed. Memory will service a good option in those cases. However, never use memorizing seeds phrase as the most secure option.

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January 07, 2023, 11:16:32 AM
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For me, memorizing of key phrase is not an issue. I know best mixing up words to get a smooth sentence sometimes I do use it to form a little poem which ryhmes with the alphabet serially aligned to match each one of the phrase as it is represented. I love doing that too which serves as backup but however I do not forget to write my phrase and store it some where because you know we are humans and not machine so not every time we would be memorizing such. That is how I do my thing you know.
 

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January 07, 2023, 07:42:42 PM
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For the security of our money it is not a bad idea to memorize, sometimes things that are in digital can play a trick on us, it is good to have our private keys and a recovery phrase safely, it can be on paper and also if You can memorize it would be a good thing, but what I find difficult to memorize but it is not impossible to do is the private key, but there must be people in the world who must do it and that would be a pretty good mental exercise, and I would not use them , if I had a lot of bitcoin in a wallet I would not hesitate to do it because it is something that requires a lot of responsibility.


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January 07, 2023, 08:06:38 PM
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You can actually memorize your seed phrase if you want to but as for me, I don't think I can , because I have to many things in my brain already. Rather, I would use my notebook or another writing pads to put them down and keep them in a safe place.
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January 07, 2023, 08:08:48 PM
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Memorising seed phrase is good, but human mind always makes mistakes. Something wrong while memorising or if something is forgotten, then what is been into the wallet goes unused. Better choice is to write down the seed phrase and keep it securely. In one way or other we need to keep things pre-planned and the same getting carried over to the upcoming generation. If not what we have earned go unused.

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January 07, 2023, 08:20:11 PM
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Memorising seed phrase is good, but human mind always makes mistakes. Something wrong while memorising or if something is forgotten, then what is been into the wallet goes unused. Better choice is to write down the seed phrase and keep it securely. In one way or other we need to keep things pre-planned and the same getting carried over to the upcoming generation. If not what we have earned go unused.

In my opinion, it is not practical as at some point, you might forget one word from those long list.
You can never be sure that you will always remember those seed phrases.
Better write it down and securely keep it where you think you will remember it and see to it that the place is safe and secure.
I won't trust myself with memorization. Sure, we can memorize it but how long?
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January 07, 2023, 08:23:52 PM
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I think the best way is to write in a notebook that will not be lost, a piece of paper is easy to lose, or a memo on a mobile phone. I shared my mnemonic with my lover, because my memory is not good, he can Help me, I trust him.
This the worst decision I have come across so far in crypto space. If I understand you very well, your lover here could mean your boyfriend or husband right? If that is the case, have you thought about break up or divorce? Your best relationship could turn your worse experience after breaking up and you'll regret doing everything you did in the perfect days of your relationship. No one can be trusted with valuable nowadays. You'll have to be very careful. Notebook and your phone can get stolen too. Meta steel is recommended.
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January 07, 2023, 08:35:30 PM
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...Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?
Why don't you try and see if it is possible to remember 12 or 24 words? Of course it is possible, but if you use your brain as storage, then you have to take into account that this storage can be damaged at any time, whether it is due to an accident or some disease that causes memory loss. In addition, keeping such things in your head is not smart for another reason, because someone can use it to find out about them while you are not completely conscious (under the influence of alcohol, drugs).
You don't even have to have any type of disease or accident, you could simply just forget it, it's human to forget some things, we all forget things and it's fine. I understand that some people think their memory is amazing, but that's really nothing that crazy and you could remember it for years and then suddenly forget it, that would be very very normal.

I personally believe that the best thing to do is write it down on paper somewhere and store it in one of the draws at your house. That way you wouldn't be able to forget it, and yes a burning building or so would see it gone, that's a terrible tragedy, but that's at least the safest method and would be very unlikely to have a burning building.
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