Is it advisable to memorize seed phrase?

[sokani]

I read that one of the best ways to preserve a seed phrase is to write it on a piece of paper and keep it in a safe place... Somewhere safe could be in your home out of the reach of family members and friends, it could also be a safe deposit box. But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

I believe we must have seen or heard about fire outbreaks, where buildings are completely erased by fire. Imagine if the owner or occupant of such a building has some Bitcoin assets, and has his/her phone, tablet, laptop and the seed phrase piece of paper in the building and everything was lost to fire. Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

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Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

You can memorize your seed phrase, but how long you can memorize it if you're not practice everyday to repeat over and over? I believe 2-3 days you will forget since memorize 24 random generated words are hard to remember.

If you scare a piece of paper get burned or anything that will destroy it, that's why you need to use better media like steel plate that resist against fire, corrosion, etc etc. This is one of the steel plate Coinplate Steel Seed Phrase Saver

[pooya87]

I believe we must have seen or heard about fire outbreaks, where buildings are completely erased by fire. Imagine if the owner or occupant of such a building has some Bitcoin assets, and has his/her phone, tablet, laptop and the seed phrase piece of paper in the building and everything was lost to fire.

The solution is very simple, you change the medium. For example use a metal plate instead of paper.
Take a look at this topic that contains useful references and information about a custom setup: Securing Your Seed Phrase with Washers

Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

It can be memorized but it is not supposed to and it is not recommended.
Over long term, it is so much easier and more likely for the seed phrase to be forgotten than your physical storage be lost to something like fire. Forgetting some of the words or their order could lead to complete loss of your funds.

[franky1]

I read that one of the best ways to preserve a seed phrase is to write it on a piece of paper and keep it in a safe place... Somewhere safe could be in your home out of the reach of family members and friends, it could also be a safe deposit box. But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

I believe we must have seen or heard about fire outbreaks, where buildings are completely erased by fire. Imagine if the owner or occupant of such a building has some Bitcoin assets, and has his/her phone, tablet, laptop and the seed phrase piece of paper in the building and everything was lost to fire. Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

the good thing about keys are. you can have many copies

its not a either/or.. its an and situation

if you want to try and remember the word go ahead. but also have a physical backup just in case

some people even go to a DIY store get a thin sheet of metal and etch/drill holes in it to mark a seed key in

some etch with a drill tip.. this per word
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and then simply drill a hole for the first 4 letters
(repeat 12 times)

knowing metal will probably last longer than paper/microchips

there are many ways of doing backup. you are not stuck with one choice/location

[Asiska02]

I believe we must have seen or heard about fire outbreaks, where buildings are completely erased by fire. Imagine if the owner or occupant of such a building has some Bitcoin assets, and has his/her phone, tablet, laptop and the seed phrase piece of paper in the building and everything was lost to fire.

In the event of a fire in your home, a steel plate is recommended because it can keep the fire from destroying what you've saved inside. This is just another option for keeping your seed phrase safe. I believe that having multiple ways to save the seed phrase is preferable to having them all in the same place in case of fire or other disaster that causes you to lose them all or access to them all at the same time.

Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

I don’t think memorizing a seed phrase will be easier than said. That’s a whole lot of random numbers generated and are not in accordance to any numerical or alphabetical order. Memorizing the seed phrase will be hard to keep long in the brain especially as you’re getting older by the day. Although, people’s brain functions differently, yours might hold for eternity while some can’t hold for even up to a month.

[Queentoshi]

Can seed phrase be memorized?

I have memorized and seen people memorize much more difficult things by turning them into music. Music can stay longer in memory than something you just read because of the melody and rhythm attached to it. So, if you can make music out from your seed phrase or even a poem, you will be able to remember it for a longer time.

It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

You have to make the song a personal song or poem, meaning not to teach anyone else or tell anyone else the reason or meaning of your song/poem.

[Eternalman]

I read that one of the best ways to preserve a seed phrase is to write it on a piece of paper and keep it in a safe place... Somewhere safe could be in your home out of the reach of family members and friends, it could also be a safe deposit box. But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

I believe we must have seen or heard about fire outbreaks, where buildings are completely erased by fire. Imagine if the owner or occupant of such a building has some Bitcoin assets, and has his/her phone, tablet, laptop and the seed phrase piece of paper in the building and everything was lost to fire. Now, this brings me to the question... Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

Why don't you consider uploading it to the cloud?

That is what I did with metamask phrases. I remember the password of my email. And in fact, all I need to remember is the password of my email, I synced everything, so when I log in to Gmail, everything automatically gets synced, and I have the doc where my seed phrase is saved.

I'd recommend that, it is convenient, easy.

[pooya87]

Why don't you consider uploading it to the cloud?

That is what I did with metamask phrases. I remember the password of my email. And in fact, all I need to remember is the password of my email, I synced everything, so when I log in to Gmail, everything automatically gets synced, and I have the doc where my seed phrase is saved.

I'd recommend that, it is convenient, easy.

It seems convenient but storing your seed phrase on a cloud service is is one of the most insecure way of seed storage. A lot of things could go wrong for you, from a simple account hack where your password is leaked to bigger catastrophic events where the cloud service itself gets hacked and everyone's accounts and their content is leaked where users aren't even informed for a long time while the company covers it up.

[tranthidung]

I read that one of the best ways to preserve a seed phrase is to write it on a piece of paper and keep it in a safe place... Somewhere safe could be in your home out of the reach of family members and friends, it could also be a safe deposit box. But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

If you don't store your backup online, at any third-party platform, server, cloud, you are using a safer backup method, even with a paper, at home and without a deposit box.

Of course, a good deposit box, a vault can be better method to store your backup as it keeps it away from water, fire damages.

Can seed phrase be memorized? It's advisable to memorize seed phrase?

For me, it has never been in my mind.

• Human brain and memory are limited so chance to see memory vanishes with time is too high.
• If you don't touch your seed daily, after a few weeks, few months, I am sure you will forget it.
• More important, you might get an accident (of course I wish you the best) which can cause damages on your brain and memory will be lost. You can not say it will never happen.

• Security Checklist
• Crypto Security - Additional Protection For Your Seed/Private Keys.

[Maximeppler4]

I think the best way is to write in a notebook that will not be lost, a piece of paper is easy to lose, or a memo on a mobile phone. I shared my mnemonic with my lover, because my memory is not good, he can Help me, I trust him.

[Eternalman]

Why don't you consider uploading it to the cloud?

That is what I did with metamask phrases. I remember the password of my email. And in fact, all I need to remember is the password of my email, I synced everything, so when I log in to Gmail, everything automatically gets synced, and I have the doc where my seed phrase is saved.

I'd recommend that, it is convenient, easy.

It seems convenient but storing your seed phrase on a cloud service is is one of the most insecure way of seed storage. A lot of things could go wrong for you, from a simple account hack where your password is leaked to bigger catastrophic events where the cloud service itself gets hacked and everyone's accounts and their content is leaked where users aren't even informed for a long time while the company covers it up.

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I am not the best of coders out there, but I do agree with the picture, and I am confident that my password would be neigh impossible to crack, unless google sells, it which is even less likely

[lovesmayfamilis]

People are very often afraid of what, in principle, cannot happen. Keeping your seed phrases in different places will give you some peace of mind. For example, I would be very worried if I had a lot of money in my wallet, but even in this case, having good money, you can buy a fireproof safe. Someone wondered how people who have millions on their account store their seed phrases. But I often see the opposite, panic is created by those who probably have a couple of hundreds in stock, and they worry about their seed phrase like a chicken about an egg.

[bittraffic]

A deposit box is a usual place where robbers or anyone who wants to look at if they wanna take something from you. Any dumbass criminal will find your seed if you keep it there. What you need is to write it somewhere not obvious like a laminated menu sheet in the kitchen or something like that.

Memorizing of course is advisable, you can go anywhere without it. But you know when you grow old, it's the brain cells that are the first to deteriorate.

[Upgrade00]

This cannot be overemphasized; do not attempt to memorize your seed phrase. It is sometimes called a mnemonic phrase, but was never intended to be retained in the head. If you rely on your memory as the only means of backup for your seedphrase, you can consider them lost already. Regardless if you turn it into a song or ask someone to help you with remembering it.

But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

If you own some Bitcoins you can afford a piece of paper or better still a book where you can write it down on. To avoid the risk of a fire or natural disaster, you can store it in two, separate, secure locations.

[Cvetik56]

Nah, I think memorizing your seed phrase is too dangerous, you need to have a copy of it somewhere, because there is a big chance you'll forget it at some point, maybe even if you'll repeat it every day. I wrote it on paper and keeping it safe.

[Poker Player]

I have memorized and seen people memorize much more difficult things by turning them into music. Music can stay longer in memory than something you just read because of the melody and rhythm attached to it. So, if you can make music out from your seed phrase or even a poem, you will be able to remember it for a longer time.

I know singers and it is easy that when they sing a song they change some words. Or theater actors who memorize a script, usually change something unconsciously when they perform. Relying on your memory could work out well in the short term, if it is to go to another country for example, but there is a high probability that it will go wrong. It is better to rely on something external. I remind you that Einsteir said: "A short pencil is better than a long memory."

[CODE200]

This cannot be overemphasized; do not attempt to memorize your seed phrase. It is sometimes called a mnemonic phrase, but was never intended to be retained in the head. If you rely on your memory as the only means of backup for your seedphrase, you can consider them lost already. Regardless if you turn it into a song or ask someone to help you with remembering it.

But not everyone are financially buoyant to afford the services of a deposit box.

If you own some Bitcoins you can afford a piece of paper or better still a book where you can write it down on. To avoid the risk of a fire or natural disaster, you can store it in two, separate, secure locations.

Yes. Indeed. Memorizing it is simple and can be achieve yet the risk of forgetting it someday might possible too. Imagine. If you have a lot of assets in a particular wallet, if you accidentally forget the seed phrase, your assets will go to waste. And I also never heard or read somewhere the idea that someone who forgets its seed phrase and doesn't have any physical copy is luckily guess or use any app to open its wallet. And just like what other says. Its better to be safe than sorry.

[NotATether]

I just use old boxes that were used to package small products, instead of a safe.

Also, I don't memorize my seed phrases, that's what the papers are for. I do however memorize my wallet passwords (and avoid writing those down as it is a security risk to keep fetching them every time you forget).

[pooya87]

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I am not the best of coders out there, but I do agree with the picture, and I am confident that my password would be neigh impossible to crack, unless google sells, it which is even less likely

There are a lot of ways that an online account can be hacked that doesn't require brute forcing or that much effort. The most common way is stealing users' password through phishing attacks in which case it doesn't matter how long the password were!
There could also be vulnerabilities that are unknown today but found in the future in their servers that could be exploited.

[xSkylarx]

There are many ways to save your seed phrase, including memorizing it, but don't just rely on it like you still have backups like putting it on paper, or I've seen someone write it in steel so it won't burn, and others have multiple backups just to be safe. Though memorizing it is beneficial, it is difficult because you do not know if you will remember it after a few weeks, so it is preferable to write it down on something that cannot be burned; simply be creative.