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January 08, 2023, 11:51:51 PM
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Self experience is the best teacher to me, people don’t take lessons from others too serious than when they incur it more on themselves. I believe a person at loss will be careful going into same trading route again same goes to the profiters he either finds more alternatives to gain more profit or seek more ways to stay on the right track. Both are great lessons but a serial loser doesn’t learn a thing to me
A loser doesn't want to take any risks and just does useless things and can't improve himself. One's own experience is indeed the best teacher, but apart from that the experience experienced by others is also a good option as an alert not to make the same mistakes while doing the same learning.

Trading carries a high risk and there will be no return for those who do not want to learn and improve. Every beginner must at least know the basics of technical and fundamental analysis trading, and be able to do good management. if it is implemented, there will be fewer losses and more wins when trading.
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January 09, 2023, 12:20:21 AM
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This is what learning and being better basically is all about. Lets assume something easy to imagine, like someone wanting to play the guitar, its a common thing right? Not that many become great, but MANY want to at least give it a try. When you pick up a guitar for the first me ever, do you go straight to a rock star? Hell no. You are the annoying neighbor that makes horrible sounds and sucks. Then you get a little better, how? By being terrible at first, because you don't know, and you haven't tested yourself, and you are just gaining experience. The more you do the simple things, the more you learn and the better you become at that, then when the most basics are done, you are not a rockstar yet, not at all, you just started to do a bit better than basic stuff, maybe like "advanced basic" stuff simply, it takes years and years of practice to be any good at it, and meanwhile, you are going to suck at it and at every stage you will doubt if you could even do it.

Thats true with trading, you will be terrible, you will have to get out of the comfort zone and be terrible, and then lose money trading, and go back and look why and you will curse yourself for such an easy mistake, then you will do it again anyway. Thats how trading is, and that's how you become a great trader one day, by being a terrible one first.

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January 09, 2023, 02:06:12 AM
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I think we all need to ask these questions:

1 - how many people are making money consistently with day trading? and then we need to see if someone is really making money with day trading so how much capital they have, what is the profit per day, week and month and how much money they invested and how much money they have already lost and gained since they started day trading

2 - then we need to ask ourselves why most people who were day trading today are creating youtube channels and are writing books, are creating telegram channels on youtube and charging for subscriptions, because these people need to do this themselves they with a good capital like 40,000$ and doing day trade supposedly could make profits of 400$ per day as a minimum?

I came to the conclusion that nobody is profiting with day trade, if the person does a long-term hold for something like 2 or 5 years then he will profit a lot but with day trade the person will not profit anything, he will lose money and a lot of time and he will not make a profit, you will only have loss and disappointment

This is an entirely untrue statement, I know there are many people who participate in trade and lose, but besides that, there are also many people who make profits even they consider trading as the primary job to generate income. Just because you can't make a profit doesn't mean others can't, just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. These people are mostly anonymous, unobtrusive people like scammers creating signal groups or selling books...



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January 09, 2023, 02:37:43 AM
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Remember the first trading lesson you learned as a newbie? Did it come from a win or a loss? A loss teaches you about the reality of the market, protects you from becoming cocky, and humbles you. When you are a beginner trader, a small loss is not a terrible thing. Losses teach you proper trading risk management strategies and techniques and respect for the market and prepare you for long-term success.

Remember the first lesson you learned as a beginner trader? Did it come from a loss or a win?
It is true that you can learn more from a loss than from a win, however make sure that you do not learn exclusively from your losses, learn from every single experience that you have so you can minimize your losses as much as possible, after all the more that you can learn without having to lose money in the process then the sooner you will become a profitable trader, as you have more money in your account to trade the markets and take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves.
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January 09, 2023, 03:24:18 AM
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I think we all need to ask these questions:

1 - how many people are making money consistently with day trading? and then we need to see if someone is really making money with day trading so how much capital they have, what is the profit per day, week and month and how much money they invested and how much money they have already lost and gained since they started day trading

2 - then we need to ask ourselves why most people who were day trading today are creating youtube channels and are writing books, are creating telegram channels on youtube and charging for subscriptions, because these people need to do this themselves they with a good capital like 40,000$ and doing day trade supposedly could make profits of 400$ per day as a minimum?

I came to the conclusion that nobody is profiting with day trade, if the person does a long-term hold for something like 2 or 5 years then he will profit a lot but with day trade the person will not profit anything, he will lose money and a lot of time and he will not make a profit, you will only have loss and disappointment

First of all, you are just basing yourself on the people that you can find on the internet, like those making blogs and videos. You're not scouring forums and social media for people who aren't claiming themselves, lol. Those creators aren't making money, or if they are, they want to make money in other ways. No matter what, I still don't believe those who claim on the internet that they are good and have made a lot of money trading. I don't know how you describe successful, but my friends are doing day trading, and yes, they are profiting, but they don't flaunt it everywhere; they only tell us when we are having talks. Losses are a part of trading, and no one is perfect who has never lost.
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Remember the first lesson you learned as a beginner trader? Did it come from a loss or a win?
the very first  is indeed a win though this is just a penny amount comparing to the next as this is trying  occasion , but the second and the next to it? I am a loser but what made me learning ? are those experience from the loses and talks about my Stupidity of being greedy, i treat this as like gambling that also addicting but full of losing.









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January 09, 2023, 04:10:46 AM
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Remember the first lesson you learned as a beginner trader? Did it come from a loss or a win?
When I was a beginner, I have someone who taught and guide me as a trader and I think that's my advantage compared to other beginners who learned on their own. However, because of my over confidence to think I know everything already, my first experience is a loss (good thing I used small amount on my first try). That's how I realized my mistakes on why it happened. It's really true that losses will teach you something to do better next time and for me it's not that bad since the bad experience gave me an idea and knowledge on how things work if you're doing an actual trading.

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Remember the first lesson you learned as a beginner trader? Did it come from a loss or a win?
Losses are often the result of mistakes or failures, whereas wins may not require learning new skills. In other words, it may be true that the losses we suffer are more learning opportunities for us than the wins we enjoy. It takes time for me to make profits after I've survived losses. Ultimately, the smart thing to do is to make a profit.

We know that we learn from our mistakes but in trading, finding what's the mistake is not easy because for me market is unpredictable. We have to react what opportunities the market gives to you. Sometimes it's very confusing what really the mistake is and we mostly forget the mistakes we make in every losses in trading that's why we have to journal it and it's very effective result in trading.

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January 09, 2023, 02:22:55 PM
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Remember the first trading lesson you learned as a newbie? Did it come from a win or a loss? A loss teaches you about the reality of the market, protects you from becoming cocky, and humbles you. When you are a beginner trader, a small loss is not a terrible thing. Losses teach you proper trading risk management strategies and techniques and respect for the market and prepare you for long-term success.

Remember the first lesson you learned as a beginner trader? Did it come from a loss or a win?
In trading, both wins and losses provide experience and lessons.

When you lose money in trading, you will learn a lot about patience and how to do more research in order to stop the loss; similarly, when you win or gain profit in trading, you will learn more about diversifying your portfolio in order to keep the profit going up.
Overall, trading has its ups and downs, which are the main points that teach us lessons all of the time while trading.

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The first lesson I encountered was from a win, and then it just came to me that I could profit from it, and it made sense that I could make another income from it. It shows that you need to be consistent to profit from trading. So having a bot is an excellent thing because you can be more consistent and manage your risk.

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Yes exactly this is the thing which matters a lot and I think that you can never learn anything if you win regularly but I think that learning is necessary because there sometimes where you have to apply the strategies which you learn from the past. From my losses I learn that never take any decision without any knowledge regarding that thing, one should always know about the condition of trading market, there is luckily few opportunities in which a person win and he thought that he will always win but sometimes the situation become unfavorable so be conscious and take every step with bright thinking.

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January 09, 2023, 02:53:21 PM
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Remember the first trading lesson you learned as a newbie? Did it come from a win or a loss? A loss teaches you about the reality of the market, protects you from becoming cocky, and humbles you. When you are a beginner trader, a small loss is not a terrible thing. Losses teach you proper trading risk management strategies and techniques and respect for the market and prepare you for long-term success.

Remember the first lesson you learned as a beginner trader? Did it come from a loss or a win?
It depends on how you started your trading, sometimes some people started with good understanding or foundation of trading, so from my perspective anyone who started with good foundation of trading will definitely make profit, because it has known the rudiments of trading. While some people who don't know the strategies will end up on getting lost in trading, so majority of people experience lost when they started because some of them are curious in trading and they could not be opportune to learn and understand the procedures of trading before venturing into it.

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January 09, 2023, 03:14:29 PM
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Remember the first trading lesson you learned as a newbie? Did it come from a win or a loss? A loss teaches you about the reality of the market, protects you from becoming cocky, and humbles you. When you are a beginner trader, a small loss is not a terrible thing. Losses teach you proper trading risk management strategies and techniques and respect for the market and prepare you for long-term success.

Remember the first lesson you learned as a beginner trader? Did it come from a loss or a win?
I started trading with just $10 I made some profits before losing all my funds I was taught a lesson by the market, the mindset of doubling that amount within the shortest period of time  prompted my over trading and got punished by the market, after I refunded my account again greediness was another problem I encountered, there instances where I made some reasonable profit in crypto trading instead of taking profit quickly and quit I left my position with hope of earning more profits unfortunately markets always reverses and I ended up losing part of funds.

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January 09, 2023, 06:10:15 PM
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I think losing money teaches a lot and you will learn to do more research most people don't even learn about the basics but once or when you lose money countless times you will learn from the mistakes you made while trading and you will also take security seriously, most especially avoiding exchanges what happen to FTX should be a big lesson for the victims.

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January 09, 2023, 08:26:42 PM
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the very first  is indeed a win though this is just a penny amount comparing to the next as this is trying  occasion , but the second and the next to it? I am a loser but what made me learning ? are those experience from the loses and talks about my Stupidity of being greedy, i treat this as like gambling that also addicting but full of losing.
when you trade like gambling, you have entered on the wrong step. it will not give you any advantage even if there is a small profit, but there will be more losses. Not just trading, you also have to know how to manage trades so you don't get caught up in trading betting schemes. Don't put eggs in one basket, because that won't be good for your capital security. The resulting losses such as gambling will be more, compared to trading with the right and wrong trading knowledge in making predictions. Capital management, risk management, use of stop loss must be learned.
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January 09, 2023, 08:49:31 PM
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I think losing money teaches a lot and you will learn to do more research most people don't even learn about the basics but once or when you lose money countless times you will learn from the mistakes you made while trading and you will also take security seriously, most especially avoiding exchanges what happen to FTX should be a big lesson for the victims.
Our objectives in trading is not lose, and losing your funds through trading will not make you to be perfect in trading, the secret is that we have to master the methods of trading before we come trading, but some person's doesn't know that. Thinking that what will make you to be perfect is when you have lost and understand your the perspective that made you to lose, so in between the process you can lose money that will make you go into depression. So try to avoid or overcome anything that will lead you into lose.

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January 09, 2023, 08:57:26 PM
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Remember the first trading lesson you learned as a newbie? Did it come from a win or a loss? A loss teaches you about the reality of the market, protects you from becoming cocky, and humbles you. When you are a beginner trader, a small loss is not a terrible thing. Losses teach you proper trading risk management strategies and techniques and respect for the market and prepare you for long-term success.

Remember the first lesson you learned as a beginner trader? Did it come from a loss or a win?
For sure you would really be learning lessons out of your losses more than on your wins which is really that common sense.On the time you do win then you would really be having thoughts
that you are really that should be sticking with that strategy since its been making money for you but on the time that trades becomes a mess or something that negative then this is
where those hopes been crumbled or down and this is where realization do sits in and you would really be finding ways for you to make yourself that realizing on what
are the things you should do next or shall we say plan B's.

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January 09, 2023, 10:29:13 PM
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So how can you not learn a lesson from here? It drives you towards good decision (only if you don't trade emotionally again).
Okay, if you call that a lesson but to me it's not since I considered a lesson when you were struggling and get past it not when you were having fun or happy. The results of your decision were from when you learn from your lesson that's why we often tend to change when learning a lesson because we don't want to commit the same mistakes twice.

How can you learn something when you are happy? Maybe in a good way you will learn that you are a good trader when you make profit through trading but that could just be luck since you haven't seen it all yet, that the market isn't just like that.

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January 09, 2023, 11:12:05 PM
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You won't learn more if you continue losing money without gaining any profits out of your trades. So, you'll need both profits and loss to learn more in trading. The human brain is designed in a way that it stops trying when it keeps getting zero profits. But, if a newbie gets into trading, and luckily he regained some lost money; made profits. He'll continue learning and researching on how to trade, so as to perfect the skill. Compared to a person who didn't make profits he'll, without hesitations, quit the trading quest, he would think trading is not meant for him. Therefore, I'd say that we need more profits to keep learning about cryptocurrency trading, losses dulls the impression of learning. And, losses, also contributed to the exit of many newbies who would have been potential traders today.

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January 09, 2023, 11:12:26 PM
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So how can you not learn a lesson from here? It drives you towards good decision (only if you don't trade emotionally again).
Okay, if you call that a lesson but to me it's not since I considered a lesson when you were struggling and get past it not when you were having fun or happy. The results of your decision were from when you learn from your lesson that's why we often tend to change when learning a lesson because we don't want to commit the same mistakes twice.

How can you learn something when you are happy? Maybe in a good way you will learn that you are a good trader when you make profit through trading but that could just be luck since you haven't seen it all yet, that the market isn't just like that.
Well, I guess different people think differently. For me, it was the win. I did learn more or less from it. It's just how you celebrate your win or embrace your loss.
Both can leave a mark on your life, this is just how I think I guess. I take lessons from both scenarios. You never know which could teach you what. You need wins to experience the sorrow that comes with loss. And the same goes for loss, you need losses to feel the joy of win. Without the dark, you can't value the light.
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