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January 09, 2023, 02:50:25 PM
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    i am new in bitcointalk forum., but after joining I feel happy because my insight has increased little by little because I always see and discuss about bitcoin and crypto. so joining this forum makes me happy and more enthusiastic about investing in bitcoin.
but of course in discussions there are always obstacles in between, there are always those who disagree with us, even many of our posts are criticized, but that way we will think and learn so that in the future we will become more mature, and become people who have quality discussions.
and that's my experience as a beginner in bitcointalk.
so for beginners newer than me have to be ready in between.

1: don't be shy when we express opinions, or questions.

2: you have to be mentally strong when someone criticizes you harshly.
and don't be hurt.

3: when discussing, don't get carried away by negative emotions.

4: if our post
removed by moderator don't be discouraged. so by deleting our posts it should be a lesson, so that in the future we will be good and quality in posting.

I hope my post is useful for all of us, especially beginners who are newer than me. I'm ready to be corrected, or if my post is not useful, I'm willing to delete my post by the moderator.

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January 09, 2023, 02:59:23 PM
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Criticism is healthy if we take it as good advise. We cant always be right and others might have more better opinion and suggestion. Those newbies or anyone who can accept if they have been corrected will have a brighter future and great here in forum. One must learn from those to increade his level of intelligence when participating on discussion and debate here.

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January 09, 2023, 03:23:10 PM
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1: don't be shy when we express opinions, or questions.

many beginners, even those who are currently seniors. When they first entered the forum, not only were they shy, most of them were even confused about what topic to start with. or what was the reply. lots of ideas, but confused to express them.
but it's only a matter of time. when there are more discussions, everything will be easier to do. sometimes there will be more people who disagree with our idea. but we can filter only the best information.


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January 09, 2023, 03:57:39 PM
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Yes, you make a good point in your write up to be mentally strong which,  is very important to every newbies to embrace in this forum. Free free to ask any questions in this platform but let the question be what will impact other people in the platform because, many newbies are ready to learn to improve in all areas of bitcointalk.org so that they will achieve a good name in this forum.

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January 09, 2023, 04:55:13 PM
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 don't be shy when we express opinions, or questions.
Since the Bitcointalk forum is a learning place and nobody is perfect, I don't expect anybody to be particularly shy. Additionally, since this is not a physical gathering, I don't anticipate new members acting that way. However, I advise beginners to always grasp the question they are attempting to ask, which means they should also try to formulate the inquiry in understandable ways.
you have to be mentally strong when someone criticizes you harshly.
and don't be hurt.
Anyone who is willing to learn will never be subject to criticism because everyone makes mistakes. Just always strive to put other people's behavior ahead of your attitude. You will occasionally feel wounded by other people's actions toward you, but accept that it is just a fact of life.
if our post
removed by moderator don't be discouraged. so by deleting our posts it should be a lesson, so that in the future we will be good and quality in posting.


This why newbie are expected to read and comprehend the forum rules before posting anything. Once you make a valuable post, it cannot be removed. Removing a post  should be inspire to the user, not depress them, since the user should be aware of the error that led to the removal of the post so that they can learn from it and move on to make improvements.

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January 09, 2023, 05:00:12 PM
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You're pretty much talking about conversing with people on the internet in general, mostly social media platforms. Bitcointalk isn't anything special. If anything, Bitcointalk is far less lax because you have benefit of being pseudonymous.

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January 09, 2023, 07:06:21 PM
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Grow thick skin. Bitcointalk is the least toxic social media platform, members do not trade insults as people do on other platforms. The rules are clear on prohibition of death threats. I think the reason bitcointalk is different from the regular social media platforms is because here knowledge is rewarded indiscriminately, no one sees your pretty face or the color of your skin or the Bugatti. At best, we see your avatar which I think makes bitcointalk special.
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January 09, 2023, 07:58:02 PM
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Criticism is healthy if we take it as good advise. We cant always be right and others might have more better opinion and suggestion. Those newbies or anyone who can accept if they have been corrected will have a brighter future and great here in forum. One must learn from those to increade his level of intelligence when participating on discussion and debate here.

My opinion is the same, because knowledge does not accumulate in one human being, so we must be good at dealing with all problems. and of course must have a positive outlook.

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January 09, 2023, 08:18:39 PM
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Unless there is a ridiculously unrealistic discussion, little under people will criticize you. However, people can be crazy and criticize you at times. You've come here to learn, not to fight. As a result, you must accept and learn from criticism. Simply ignore and try to figure out what you did wrong and why you were criticized. However, the emphasis should be on learning and engaging in constructive discussion. As a result, you can contribute to the forum. Respect others in order to obtain resection.

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January 09, 2023, 08:32:59 PM
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1: don't be shy when we express opinions, or questions.

That's why it's called bitcointalk, people must talk but only adhere to the good and needful ones while others be trashed by moderators if they were off topics, contribute when needed by giving your opinion and follow up a discussion if important to you, ask questions and don't assume and keep mute when you have nothing to say than spamming.

2: you have to be mentally strong when someone criticizes you harshly.

Not until you realize that we are all not perfect but working towards perfection then anyone that talks to you ashly will create a mindset of tackling aggression with calm in you, this is a forum where orderliness is observed and descrimination unallowed.
 
4: if our post
removed by moderator don't be discouraged. so by deleting our posts it should be a lesson, so that in the future we will be good and quality in posting.

You can always avoid this by been on point, you don't need to create attention by posting irrelevant posts to get noticed, and you can also learn to make use of the search engine to know more information and ideas about already discussed topics in other to avoid repetition.



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January 09, 2023, 09:05:22 PM
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I hope my post is useful for all of us, especially beginners who are newer than me. I'm ready to be corrected, or if my post is not useful, I'm willing to delete my post by the moderator.
Your post is useful. Newbies to the forum usually have a certain perspective of how things work and can easily feel frustrated if certain discussions come off as too harsh to them or if they are not getting any merits despite their perceived efforts. Lots of this comes down to how they were introduced to the forum and what they expect from it;
Those who are here to learn would likely not feel to attached and would take it as just another forum where they discuss Bitcoin.
Those who were told you come in hear to earn would be more desperate and are more likely to feel frustrated.

Relax, learn and have a bit of fun while at it.

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2: you have to be mentally strong when someone criticizes you harshly.
and don't be hurt.


Compared to the rest of the Internet, it's a quite polite forum. People generally won't call you names here, unless you have an established negative reputation (I'm talking not about the reputation score here, but the actual reputation).

If someone doesn't agree with your point, it doesn't mean they are "criticizing you harshly". Countering someone's arguments and defending your arguments is the whole point of a forum, if everyone just agreed with each other, there would be no need to talk about anything.

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2: you have to be mentally strong when someone criticizes you harshly.
and don't be hurt.
Generally speaking the whole discussion scene here and even the criticism is not as harsh as you think UNLESS the post (or the user) deserves it. For example there are cases where certain people intentionally spread misinformation by using technobabble and repetition of well known FUDs, the response such things get are always deservedly harsh.

But of course there could be exceptions to what I said. Like a beginner who unknowingly spreads FUD and is treated harshly, but we are all human and fallible.

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January 10, 2023, 06:49:21 AM
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1: don't be shy when we express opinions, or questions.

In this forum, anyone is free to ask and give any opinion, as long as it can be debated - based on facts - not threatening.

2: you have to be mentally strong when someone criticizes you harshly.
and don't be hurt.
3: when discussing, don't get carried away by negative emotions.

why are you angry when someone criticizes you, everyone has their own views on something, there is nothing wrong and right in a discussion, the focus that must be sought is the final conclusion of a discussion, not blaming or justifying each other.

4: if our post
removed by moderator don't be discouraged. so by deleting our posts it should be a lesson, so that in the future we will be good and quality in posting.
...

remember, your post was deleted because someone reported it to the moderator and the reason is usually low quality - spam - off topic.



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January 10, 2023, 07:29:14 AM
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1: don't be shy when we express opinions, or questions.

2: you have to be mentally strong when someone criticizes you harshly.
and don't be hurt.

3: when discussing, don't get carried away by negative emotions.

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removed by moderator don't be discouraged. so by deleting our posts it should be a lesson, so that in the future we will be good and quality in posting.
To some extent, you are correct, but the critics you are referring to are uncommon in this forum.
People in this forum have a different way of viewing and responding to questions or discussions, which is why if you get some hash replies, it will appear to be critics; Nonetheless, it's a learning platform where you can learn about Bitcoin, so the way and mode of response from some forum users should not be taken into consideration.


Yes your account is newbie but you speech is alt account. But not sure and time will tell. You just join the forum this month which has not even up to a month but you know the forum more than even a senior member in the forum who has been in the forum for one full year. All the things you said to some extent are correct I repeat again, a newbie of two weeks in the forum will never know all things. So I asking you a question how do you know all these things within two weeks as a newbie?

I believe it is possible to learn about the forum before participating in its activities.
The forum rules and regulations are there to guide us; if thoroughly studied, all of the points mentioned in the OP should have been known before beginning to post in the forum. Nonetheless, you may have a valid reason for saying all of this, but I consider your response to be one of the critics he may be referring to; rather than suspecting the OP as an Alt account, why not offer some advice to the OP as a senior colleague?



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January 10, 2023, 08:22:08 PM
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Yes your account is newbie but you speech is alt account. But not sure and time will tell. You just join the forum this month which has not even up to a month but you know the forum more than even a senior member in the forum who has been in the forum for one full year. All the things you said to some extent are correct I repeat again, a newbie of two weeks in the forum will never know all things. So I asking you a question how do you know all these things within two weeks as a newbie?

I believe it is possible to learn about the forum before participating in its activities.
The forum rules and regulations are there to guide us; if thoroughly studied, all of the points mentioned in the OP should have been known before beginning to post in the forum. Nonetheless, you may have a valid reason for saying all of this, but I consider your response to be one of the critics he may be referring to; rather than suspecting the OP as an Alt account, why not offer some advice to the OP as a senior colleague?


that's right, to understand all the rules in this forum is quite easy and does not require a long time. because even on every board there are always rules that are pinned (stored above). it makes it easier for beginners to first read the rules before starting to interact in the discussion on the intended board. so it doesn't take years. even I think 3 days or one week will be enough to understand all the rules in this forum if we study it and read all the rules carefully. and as for @Mate2237 I think you are overreacting and you are wrong if you think a newbie can't learn forum rules and customs in no time. even I was able to understand the rules of this forum in less than a week. because the rules in this forum are very easy. i.e. may not be spam, may not be out of topic and may not be plagiarism in making posts. and some other rules in other matters. even I see your initial post also looks quite professional when you are still a beginner. because it looks like you too can understand the rules of the forum quickly. I understand because I can immediately mingle here very easily. we better set a good example than have to express futile doubts. i agree with @Hyphen(-). it would be better for us to provide good advice for the newbies. because I see you are @Mate2237 and I am actually still new to this forum. that is not even a year. and let's work together in building this forum to make it more active and more fun and more lively.

   
1: don't be shy when we express opinions, or questions.

Your're right. feelings of shame and fear of being wrong are certainly felt by some beginners. because even at the beginning of my experiment in making posts on this forum it succeeded in making me quite tense at first. it's not shame that I feel but a feeling of fear of being wrong. because I'm a person who always doesn't want to make mistakes the first time and even I always want to make a good impression on the initial meeting. so the right step for beginners so they can immediately mingle in this forum is to read and understand the rules on the forum before starting to interact. and if there is still something you don't understand then don't hesitate to ask on this board.

and I think you're saying this because it sounds like you're feeling that way. Grin

But it is also necessary to know that in order to survive in this forum we must have motivation and passion in this field. I even have someone I admire in this forum, namely @fillippone. I was very impressed with him, because he always presents quality posts and contains knowledge in them. and the way in which information is presented in his writing is very easy to understand and comfortable to read for those of us who are new here.

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No worries if you're new, but I don't think there's any point of mentioning this out since it happens to every sites out there anyway. I even recall being harshly downed by some random FB user kids in back in the days and I did not just give a single crap at all.
In the internet, you cannot just trust so easily knowing that you never know who's behind the monitor.

Having a thicker skin in the internet helps a lot.
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In order to be successful here and even in outside world you have to be mentally strong. Be ready to accept harsh criticism because nobody is ready to pamper or spoon feed anyone here.
When I was hit with the challenge of being mentally strong I had to retrain and not reply some messages that causes me mental strain.
That is the best way to survive. Since there is no rule that you must reply everyone, just try and ignore some unhealthy conversations and you will be right. Provided that you are not cheating or planning to cheat.

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You're pretty much talking about conversing with people on the internet in general, mostly social media platforms. Bitcointalk isn't anything special. If anything, Bitcointalk is far less lax because you have benefit of being pseudonymous.

he speaks like a child. none of what he says is specific only to the Bitcointalk forum, or to any social networks. if he went out into the real world among real people and tried to communicate with anyone, he would notice that similar communication rules apply there. maybe in a slightly different form, but the essence is the same.

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January 10, 2023, 10:37:58 PM
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Deleting of post is interesting me in your post because I have experience in that. When my post is deleted I have to work harder to upgrade to my post so that moderator will not delete next time or a long time before it will happen again.

I don't feel bad when my post is deleted but I get the idea that my post quality need to be worked on, so it increase my effort when it is deleted.

You need to know also you can go for temporary suspension like 7 days if you always get post deleted as warning for you.
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