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January 11, 2023, 01:37:40 AM |
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Completely heard-breaking, I could not sleep for days after such a negative experience. Another reason why provably fair gambling should be the standard in the future, they basically turned this situation into a "word-against-word" one. Have you ever noticed that when a machine malfunctions is usually for people who allegedly won millions of dollars to be given little bit or nothing at all? It is never the opposite way. When would a resort in Las Vegas call a gambler to their room because the 10$ they won earlier were actually 100 million and invite them to go down the reception to receive their cash?
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January 11, 2023, 02:04:03 AM |
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It was probably simpler to tell her a lie about the machine malfunctioning than to disclose the truth because I picture the casino going out of business after giving the woman her earnings. How do you keep the machine going when you know full well that it is broken makes this story cringe-worthy.
I believe that the regulators ought to establish a team that visits physical casinos on a regular basis to look for machine malfunctions and to penalize operators that continue to use problematic machines.
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January 11, 2023, 02:45:22 AM |
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Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? If you pay close attention to the article, you will see that the casino followed the laws so much and that the new york gaming commission confirmed that the machine had problems, so the casino was not giving excuses for not paying, they complied with the elections, about the invitation what they did to the lady, I think they were just being nice to the lady in an attempt to show the lady that even though she hasn't won millions the casino still treats her well and that she can keep playing at the casino, these things don't happen all days of someone making money and discovering that the machine was having problems and canceling the gains Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? they couldn't do that, in physical casinos they have cameras that record everything and inspections and investigations are carried out, physical casinos follow very strict laws, unlike online casinos How could they do this to her? Seriously, you're really asking this question, we can't accuse the casino of anything, in the article it says well that the new york gaming commission confirmed that the machine has problems
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January 11, 2023, 02:50:30 AM |
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Of course this is nothing but a cheap way for the casino to avoid paying the jackpot price. And since the casino must have developed deep ties with the gambling commission, and probably with some money involved as well, and they're also up against an ordinary gambler, they were able to just took the player for a fool. How I wish the player sued the casino for this modus and see how the courts would decide the case.
This is a wake up call to gamblers. The casinos are just interested in taking away your money. The moment you are winning big, they have a hundred reasons not to pay you.
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January 11, 2023, 03:16:32 AM |
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Completely heard-breaking, I could not sleep for days after such a negative experience. Another reason why provably fair gambling should be the standard in the future, they basically turned this situation into a "word-against-word" one. Have you ever noticed that when a machine malfunctions is usually for people who allegedly won millions of dollars to be given little bit or nothing at all? It is never the opposite way. When would a resort in Las Vegas call a gambler to their room because the 10$ they won earlier were actually 100 million and invite them to go down the reception to receive their cash? It's always the way to deceive customers, if the said woman lost 10k dollars as a result of the malfunctioned machine the casino won't say a thing about it. The market is quite managed by some dubious people who don't care about the feelings of others. Imagine quenching the happiness, the woman had in her after seeing such an amount, to a sad qualm. It'll be difficult for her to forget such an experience and the trauma may leave her to become fearful of going to casinos. Adding insult to her injury they offered her few dollars that's not humanly in any form. The managers of the Casino are ruthless for handling the dispute in such a disdained manner. They've got no respect for her and even the court shouldn't have kept the case pending till now. The woman and the casino are expected to reach out to an agreement and she get paid for the inconveniences. Not necessarily the jackpot, but something better than the piece of $2 written on the ticket. Finally, she needs a strong lawyer.
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January 11, 2023, 03:36:48 AM |
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If she goes to the court, then I am not sure whether she'll get any of the winnings. Is it even possible to win $43 million from a single slot machine? When we play in a casino, we are forced to abide by the terms and conditions. The casino can just argue that the win happened as a result of machine malfunction and they will go bankrupt if they give out such a large reward. In the end, the most probable thing going to happen is that the casino will settle matters out of the court with the winner. Katrina Bookman may end up with a few hundred thousand USD at the most and a sizable chunk will be eaten by her lawyer. So in case things go well for her, she may end up richer by around $100k. BTW, this incident happened way back in 2017, in case no one has noticed it yet. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40300062
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bitterguy28
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January 11, 2023, 03:45:27 AM |
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B way of casino hindering players from getting their wins, though it is truly questionable to have this High wining in slot machine , 43 million dollars? are there really possibilities for this to happen without Bug or without certain cases?
this needs a deep investigation and explanation with proofs , people must understand why this happens .
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January 11, 2023, 03:51:13 AM |
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It was a fishy reason, and there is something behind the story. That is a huge amount, and no matter the slot malfunction, they should still have given her some sort of damage pay or a bigger amount on it as it is their duty to make sure the slot machine is working properly. That selfie could be proof of winning, so she should try to pursue it until she can get bigger than the amount that was given to her. If I were in her situation, for sure, I would ask the owner for a letter that was signed by both parties saying that you won it, but I need to go back the next day so that I can really hold them accountable.
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How did her body got numbed?
Does seem like she inhaled something or someone just injected her with a substance and then when she wakes up all excitement is gone. Life is indeed unfair for this woman. $43M is not something that a casino is willing to give. It's the worse that could happen to someone who almost got everything in this world and then in just a blink lost it all.
She doesn't have a companion at that moment who can take care of what she won too.
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January 11, 2023, 04:12:25 AM |
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If she goes to the court, then I am not sure whether she'll get any of the winnings. Is it even possible to win $43 million from a single slot machine?
Well, apparently, to this day, it has not. Top 10 Biggest Slot Machine Wins Of All Time
The largest prize was $14.3 million. BTW, this incident happened way back in 2017, in case no one has noticed it yet.
Well, I think the incident is shocking enough for us to discuss it. Apart from that, I agree that the woman should be offered serious compensation, not a fucking steak, LMAO.
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Some Casinos are just plain fraudulent. So this woman visited a casino, play slot and won $43million. She took a selfie with the amount displayed on the machine. The casino saw it and told her to return the next day so they could talk about the winnings. Next day she returned. Story changed. She was told the machine had malfunctioned and therefore it was what was responsible for the winnings. They went ahead to offer her a complimentary steak dinner. I got so livid reading this story.
Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings?
this is pure fraud, the lady won for real and honesty but the casino owners don't want to pay a penny of the lady's winnings because they definitely don't have as much money as the lady won. supposedly for a country that legalizes gambling, this kind of thing can be reported to the police because all the evidence has been collected and there is no fraud that the woman is doing, the one who cheats is the owner of the casino. Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her?
As I said, casino owners don't have that kind of money so they never have any intention of paying out the big winners. it's just their excuse that the machine is broken, fraudsters should be punished and their gambling business should be shut down.
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January 11, 2023, 04:21:02 AM |
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Katrina Bookman was playing the slots at the Resorts World Casino in Jamaica, Queens when she secured what would have been the largest slot machine jackpot in US history - $42,949,672 (£35.4m). She took a selfie with the machine to mark the moment, and later said her whole body went 'numb' when she saw the life-changing figure. Bookman was told to come back the next day to discuss her winnings, but when she asked an employee what she'd be walking away with, he responded: "You didn't win nothing." The New York State Gaming Commission said Bookman’s machine had malfunctioned, and that she'd actually won just $2.25 (£1.86).The machine had a disclaimer stating 'malfunctions void all pays and plays', and as a result the commission said that they were required by law to give Bookman only what she'd actually won. Source: https://www.unilad.com/community/woman-won-43-million-offered-steak-dinner-instead-055644-20230108Some Casinos are just plain fraudulent. So this woman visited a casino, play slot and won $43million. She took a selfie with the amount displayed on the machine. The casino saw it and told her to return the next day so they could talk about the winnings. Next day she returned. Story changed. She was told the machine had malfunctioned and therefore it was what was responsible for the winnings. They went ahead to offer her a complimentary steak dinner. I got so livid reading this story. Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her? I have been hearing about this all day today. The poor woman does not deserve such a roller coaster of emotion. Even if she did not win the money she should still sue and get money for having been put through that ordeal by a faulty machine, which the mentioned casino has a duty of responsibility for. Their machine, their responsibility. By the same thought: Can the casinos claim that winnings are undeserved when a human shuffles the cards the wrong way at the blackjack table? just because he was distracted or intoxicated? Although by that very same thought, should she not get to keep the winnings? Whether it was faulty or not has to be proven. They cannot make claims without evidence. So where exactly is the evidence? I would vote that she keeps the winnings.
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January 11, 2023, 04:30:51 AM |
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This happened in 2016 just in case anyone is wondering. I tried to search for the verdict of the lawsuit she filed against the casino but it looks like it's still pending. I personally doubt she'll win the case since the NY Gaming Commission already sided with Resort World. The said machine's maximum payout is supposedly $6500 only. Here's a more updated story if you want to read https://bonuslots.net/katrina-bookman-vs-resorts-world-casino/ Maybe the slot machine is really malfunctioning that time but the casino staffs should have fixed it, otherwise players should be warned not to play on it. But i felt sorry for that woman because knowing that the NY Gaming Commission has sided with the casino, then I don’t think she will still receive her won amount. But at least she will still be given the maximum payout and not just settle with a simple dinner. It was fixed after that $42 million+ appeared on the screen hehe. Giving her the maximum payout would have been a good compromise but they have a policy to void the result when the machine malfunctions. No this happened in 2016. She sued the casino in 2017. You may read more from the link in my above comment.
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January 11, 2023, 04:37:09 AM |
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This is like the most fraud thing I have ever observed since social media became so strong. I understand that than kind of money can be very disruptive for their casino business. Although if there are issues with their slot machines its their responsibility to fix it. Not very sure how law works but I think this customer should directly open case against that fraud. In proper countries she would definitely win a lot of money at least.
Reading the terms of service of most casino companies might be very challenging because it can be time consuming, but I think it is worth studying. At least gamblers would be able to know thier rights and privilege. The slot machine has a disclaimer that voids all wins if it malfunctions. But how would the firm prove that the machine has fault? Would they not hide behind slot machine problems to deny genuine winners thier funds? I think the woman should seek legal advice and look for various means to recover her win. She is not to blame for the machine malfunctioning. If she has lost a huge bet due to the machine's problems, would they have recognized that the machine caused her loss? They would have concealed it and go on with thier operations. I feel like noone would ever read such terms because it's very time consuming. I once try to read such documents. Its probably better to get law assistance to pick very legit casino. On the other hand even if casino wasn't doing fraud they would at least compensate their customer. Obviously now with couple of dollars. Their behavior is outrageous in that sense so I really disliked how it went through. I would be very sad honestly if I experienced same thing.
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January 11, 2023, 05:21:43 AM |
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Damn that feels bad. Her mistake was leaving without any sort of proof or documentation that she won and that the casino would give the winnings to her the next day as they stated. It's also absurd how the casinos stating it as a "malfunction" on their part is enough to pretty much deny the win. At the very least, I would've wanted more in terms of compensation than just a steak dinner.
Not that she can get anything else out of it though, since the NY game commission already sided with the casino. Rather unfortunate.
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January 11, 2023, 05:34:23 AM |
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Why she not move her case to court? if she's play in licensed casino, of course it will be easier to proceed legal action. Offline licensed casino and online licensed casino are completely different, offline licensed casino will need to follow a lot requirement and make sure their casino is meet the governments rule. I'd say there's nothing to lose if the woman go into court, IMO she just doesn't have any idea with the slots machine work, so she just agree with the casino owner's words.
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January 11, 2023, 06:03:54 AM |
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Why she not move her case to court?
She did but it has not produced any results, you can see the reply that I quote below This happened in 2016 just in case anyone is wondering. I tried to search for the verdict of the lawsuit she filed against the casino but it looks like it's still pending. I personally doubt she'll win the case since the NY Gaming Commission already sided with Resort World. The said machine's maximum payout is supposedly $6500 only.
Here's a more updated story if you want to read https://bonuslots.net/katrina-bookman-vs-resorts-world-casino/
And also in the article the lawyer for the woman said at least she got the max win from the slot games which is around $6,500 not just steak Ripka further argued that at least 6500 dollars must be paid to his client, which is the maximum payment of the machine. SourceFeel sorry for the woman because she has waited long enough for this case but justice has not yet been received, it would be better to get legal certainty than just waiting for something unclear like what she experienced
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January 11, 2023, 06:21:47 AM |
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Why she not move her case to court?
She did but it has not produced any results, you can see the reply that I quote below This happened in 2016 just in case anyone is wondering. I tried to search for the verdict of the lawsuit she filed against the casino but it looks like it's still pending. I personally doubt she'll win the case since the NY Gaming Commission already sided with Resort World. The said machine's maximum payout is supposedly $6500 only.
Here's a more updated story if you want to read https://bonuslots.net/katrina-bookman-vs-resorts-world-casino/
And also in the article the lawyer for the woman said at least she got the max win from the slot games which is around $6,500 not just steak Ripka further argued that at least 6500 dollars must be paid to his client, which is the maximum payment of the machine. SourceFeel sorry for the woman because she has waited long enough for this case but justice has not yet been received, it would be better to get legal certainty than just waiting for something unclear like what she experienced The lawyer is right she should be paid the maximum amount of $6500, its not her fault that the slot is malfunctioning at the time that she is playing no gambler wants to play in a malfunctioning machine we all want equal chances, not a chance that will favor gamblers or the casino operators. The court should have a final ruling on this because an incident like this could happen again so they will have a reference on what action to take, both the operators and the players.
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January 11, 2023, 06:24:52 AM |
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Why she not move her case to court? if she's play in licensed casino, of course it will be easier to proceed legal action. Offline licensed casino and online licensed casino are completely different, offline licensed casino will need to follow a lot requirement and make sure their casino is meet the governments rule. I'd say there's nothing to lose if the woman go into court, IMO she just doesn't have any idea with the slots machine work, so she just agree with the casino owner's words.
This is the case of pure fraud and scam on part of casino management, they arranged this tactics to attract costumers for gambling and in return thru back off from their winning amount. Now in this case there are many proves right on spot . 1. Selfie taken by the lady. 2. The camera records of casino. 3. The people present there who are playing This story is really strange if it's true actually and this casino should have been closed by now for such fraudulent activities.
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January 11, 2023, 06:55:09 AM |
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Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her?
I am so angry right now while reading this story, like you said, some casinos are plainly fraudulent, i am even finding it difficult to believe this happened for real, and as it is, the woman in question can not do anything other than accept whatever is given to her. She can not file a lawsuit against this casino since it is said that a disclaimer was written on the body of the machine that malfunctions voids all pays and plays, and the casino have claimed the machine malfunctioned, the question now is, why would the casino allow users play on a faulty machine? This is an absolute fraud and one that shouldn't be condoned, i could suggest the woman get some higher authorities involved to investigate this matter, to be really sure that the machine in question really malfunctioned.
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