Re: My ignore list and my feedbacks and is Poker Player acceptable?

[AB de Royse777]

Poker Player thinks I am a crying baby.

I forgot to say a couple of things.

In his self moderated thread he realized he will not allow me to post but he is okay to speak anything about me. Since he does not have the courage to have a liberal discussion and trying to frame me with his one sided argument in the thread. I realized I need to re-post the deleted posts from his topic.

Archive: https://ninjastic.space/post/61578933

You deserve more tags and you have not received them because many people have been paid, are being paid or expect to be paid by you in the future.

Does it make you jealous. Perhaps. 

I saw the campaign and applied precisely because Royse777 didn't manage it. For that I prefer to stay working for icopress for less than half.

What a loser. Was it a compliment to icopress or insult to him and the campaign betnomi?
You seemed to be dishonest to the brand you are promoting. Shame.

For the record, do you really think I am crying? Just look at the number of campaigns I am managing, it's because the forum loves me and value my work. I don't think you will ever be able to earn such respect and love in your entire life. Financially, you will always be the $50 to $100 signature spammer.

To conclude, thank you and your boy JollyGood for making me so popular around and helping me receiving all these projects. Don't get surprised when I will have a million dollar in my possession as an escrow.

Such a loser to waste my time.

Archive: https://ninjastic.space/post/61579041

I would like to see @LoyceV's Point of view here.

If it's handled by Mods, it doesn't require feedback. I've seen bigger names receive temporary bans.

Maybe Hhumpuz deserves a tag from Poker Player as he was once temp ban for the same reason too if I assume.

Maybe not because that will lose him another campaign manager to be able to apply his campaign. After all icopress may not have spots available always. Hack icopress should also deserve a ban if I report one of his unsolicited PM to the Casino Critique account. In that case, is Poker Player going to tag iconpress?

This brings us DarkStar_. Have he ever banned for sending unsolicited PM? I don't think with the budget he works he will ever need it LOL. Maybe one day our Poker Player will be in CM if he is able to keep an ass licking relationship with DarkStar_. What do you think DS?

Let's keep yahoo62278 above of all these. Let's pray for his recovery first.

Edit to finish with this topic.
Poker Player and JollyGood, you both became a joke for me. Keep entertaining me clowns.

Can anyone answer why Poker Player is such aggressive to me?

It's obvious, I am too good to others and I am not much careful separating people based on liking or I would never PM Poker Player from Casino Critique, or would get a temp ban for sending PM to users inviting to join a campaign. Maybe my heart is too naive to separate friend and enemy. There are many people who like my hard working attitude, align themselves with alike thinking, give their supporting hand when I come up with an idea and ask them to join it. In many occasions together we helped many forum members both financially and by providing information. The history is too long to describe in a paragraph or even few pages of article. It's not just my history, there are many members like me who are in the forum from decade and contributed positively and thought positively.

How unfortunate today users like Poker Player who joined not even two and half years ago, thinks they are fine to insult me. Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

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[yahoo62278]

Unfortunately first impressions stick in someone's mind for a long time. I cannot speak for him, but it's all likely due to how he feels about the old drama a few months ago.

I don't think it's cool if he in messaging your clients or potential clients. He can leave a feedback (which he has done) and let people decide for themselves.

As far as insulting you goes, you'll just have to get thick skin and deal with that. Make all your topics self moderated and ignore him. Really not much that can be done there. Many wars go on like this in the forum.

Currently bitcoingirl.club tries to chastise jollygood and time he can. Then there was ognasty and vod. And tons of other little flame wars. It's a small part of the forum, let it go and continue working hard. You vindicate yourself by the actions you do on this forum.

I think you thought I had an issue with you, but I was just pushing hard for answers. I probably got too heated myself and took it too far, but I have no problem with you or you managing 1000 campaigns.

Royse777 seems pretty genuine. When I posted my story Royse sent me a pm. I will not disclose what was in the pm or anything, but I read it a few times and I appreciate the contents of the message.

Mistakes happen. We can't just aggressively attack everyone for mistakes. We can but the forum will start becoming a ghost town. 

[Helena Yu]

Although you've got negative feedback because they're think you've mismanage your old project e.g. bitlucy and casino critique, but I think you're already in good track since you've manage a lot campaigns and you're not scam any users. I don't see any intention if Royse777 could cause a financial losses due to his act for being honest as possible.

But only Poker Player can change his mind to revise the feedback, I hope there's will be a solution soon.

[m2017]

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Mistakes happen. We can't just aggressively attack everyone for mistakes. We can but the forum will start becoming a ghost town.  

Life is too short to waste it on negativity. I think that need to direct energy in a constructive direction, especially when you communicate on the forum. What kind of example are such disputes and dramas setting for newcomers and guests of the forum? Certainly not positive.

I don't know all the details of the internal conflict between @Royse777 and @Poker Player, but why couldn't this be settled between them without resentment and malice? I perfectly understand the desire of one to punish the other for a past mistake, as well as the desire of the other to restore his good name and reputation. But guys, continuing all this is not good for anyone. Try to communicate peacefully and come to an understanding. I call you to this.

There is enough evil in the world as it is. There is no need for this to overwhelm our forum.
Trust me, it's not worth it.

[NeuroticFish]

Can anyone answer why Poker Player is such aggressive to me?

That's something not many can answer. Maybe only PP...
It may be you've done (willingly or not, in that nefarious business or not, I can't tell) something that either offended him badly, either spoiled some business for him or somebody he knows.
Or it may be just a bad impression he got on you, which got worse with that mistake from last year and then also because of his "initial" view on you and the fact you didn't stop engaging into businesses involving money. Plus, if we're brutally honest, your next business idea had its own communication and misinterpretation related issues, which, because of misunderstanding the reasons, was for him another proof he is doing the right thing (I don't think I could've done it much different or better, don't take me wrong, I'm just stating the perceived result).
Then, the fact so many people still consider you trustworthy may be angering him even more. ...Or not; he may be even doing it for some odd sense of fun (who knows?).

However, these are wild guesses. I can't tell what's going on PP mind, only he can. Human mind is... complicated...


As said, grow a thicker skin, you have no other choice for it. From what I know aggressiveness and (cyber) bullying are not against the rules.

but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

This is unfortunate and can get him easily from distrust to negative tag.
Just you have to properly and publicly prove / document this, else it's just your word against his and that pretty much means nothing for a more or less impartial viewer.

Life is too short to waste it on negativity.

That's correct. But since Royse777 has paid some consistent amounts of money from his pocket to handle the mishap from last year, I expect he wants to recover that by working for it. And PP negativity has the potential to harm. If it would not be that, Royse777 could just go on, but as it is ... it can be a problem. And most probably PP knows this and may be also doing it on purpose.

[dkbit98]

Can anyone answer why Poker Player is such aggressive to me?

He is probably angry because of your past mistakes, but you are not helping your whole situation with topics like this.
I would never say for me that I am ''too good'' like you did, it's up to other people to judge how good or bad you have been towards them.
I don't know who reported you for sending PM that resulted with 7 day temp ban, but you should really learn to ignore some people.

Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

Can you show some proof for this claims?
This is certainly not cool and it looks pathetic from anyone doing this, if this is true.

[Zwei]

Can anyone answer why Poker Player is such aggressive to me?

Royse, do yourself a favor and just ignore him, that the best you can do.

Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

Post proof of this, and let each member make up their mind about it.

[Bobrox]

My viewed about ignore list cases between @Royse777 and @Poker Player will not ended soon if each side claiming about they are right and one side are wrong, I know who first started about making ignored list topic and I don't think are necessary. Better this topic My ignore list and my feedbacks not really urgent for publishing to public, make it as your privacy and hidden it about who have ignore list with your account or not and they will not think about your are unhappy with the name in your ignore list.

I think someone has to give in and there are no continuous response especially about the ignore list user, if don't have any one give in seems this cases will continues for many time respond and spent energy, time for not any important thing.

[AB de Royse777]

Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

Can you show some proof for this claims?
This is certainly not cool and it looks pathetic from anyone doing this, if this is true.

https://imgur.com/a/XlNrHOV
Let me know if you need a screen recording too. I deliberately removed their name by the way. Since then they never replied me.

Royse777 seems pretty genuine. When I posted my story Royse sent me a pm. I will not disclose what was in the pm or anything, but I read it a few times and I appreciate the contents of the message.

You are welcome bud. We will have long discussion over PM after you come back to us soon. Stay strong.

[Igebotz]

Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

Can you show some proof for this claims?
This is certainly not cool and it looks pathetic from anyone doing this, if this is true.

https://imgur.com/a/XlNrHOV
Let me know if you need a screen recording too. I deliberately removed their name by the way. Since then they never replied me.

Nah, this is excessive, this is unacceptable behavior; I'm just curious how he obtained information about your potential clients and how he got to them before you. I never thought anyone could harbor such hatred for someone they met on the internet. sounds ridiculous 

BTW welcome back! I hope you've learned your lesson, because people reporting your PM shows you have more enemies than you realize. ( Why would anyone report a simple invitation PM when they could simply delete or ignore it? Nah, sadists exist.)

[suchmoon]

How unfortunate today users like Poker Player who joined not even two and half years ago, thinks they are fine to insult me. Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

While I don't think PP should have done that, you need to realize that the client didn't drop you because PP told them something, just like you didn't get banned because someone reported you. You got banned because you broke the rules, and the client didn't want to work with you because of how they perceived your role in the BitLucy story. You can deal with that by not breaking the rules and by being upfront about your past issues, which I would have thought was made blatantly obvious by the CC fiasco.

[DaveF]

The world is not black and white but a 1000 shades of gray.
Most people live and work and spend most of their time in that large middle gray area. However, we all have our sections of black and white.
PP says black Rocye says white where I think most of us reading both threads are saying come on the the grey area there is plenty of room.

As was pointed out above bitcoingirl.club vs. jollygood ,  ognasty vs vod and countless others have gone on and will go on and while some people will pick sides with other people most others will just watch and comment and not pay attention to it.

It sucks that it did take money out of your pocket by costing you a client, but now that you know you can prepare and be warned what he may do.

-Dave

[CryptSafe]

Unfortunately first impressions stick in someone's mind for a long time. I cannot speak for him, but it's all likely due to how he feels about the old drama a few months ago.

I don't think it's cool if he in messaging your clients or potential clients. He can leave a feedback (which he has done) and let people decide for themselves.

As far as insulting you goes, you'll just have to get thick skin and deal with that. Make all your topics self moderated and ignore him. Really not much that can be done there. Many wars go on like this in the forum.

Currently bitcoingirl.club tries to chastise jollygood and time he can. Then there was ognasty and vod. And tons of other little flame wars. It's a small part of the forum, let it go and continue working hard. You vindicate yourself by the actions you do on this forum.

I think you thought I had an issue with you, but I was just pushing hard for answers. I probably got too heated myself and took it too far, but I have no problem with you or you managing 1000 campaigns.

Royse777 seems pretty genuine. When I posted my story Royse sent me a pm. I will not disclose what was in the pm or anything, but I read it a few times and I appreciate the contents of the message.

Mistakes happen. We can't just aggressively attack everyone for mistakes. We can but the forum will start becoming a ghost town.  

I have read through and see lots here.  This looks like there have been some misunderstanding going on for a while which is not good for the forum members to see that our legends are at each others nerves. Please Sir I understand that you are trying to make peace amongst your colleagues which is very good of you as a leader but currently now, your health is very much important to us here and we would love it that you do not stress yourself too much so as to enable you concentrate on your full recovery. All these drains energy and makes one thinks alot giving much concern to what should not be when looking at your current state of health.

I plead with you all my leaders to let peace reign.

One love!

[Igebotz]

All these drains energy and makes one thinks alot giving much concern to what should not be when looking at your current state of health.
I plead with you all my leaders to let peace reign.

One love!

Leave his health out of this.

BTW, we don't have leaders; we only have a supreme head (theymos), and everyone is equal here!! If the forum was peaceful every day, it would be fucking boring; little fights and drama like this make it a better place. Where there are multiple races, peace is not always guaranteed. I'm sure you didn't see the VOD vs OGnasty drama. haha

[NdaMk]

I actually followed up on the discussion and saga that erupted following the failure of the Bitlucy campaign. To be honest, if the clients still come to you after everything that happened there and ask you to handle more work for them, then your work for them cannot be debated. Even if clients see the tag associated with your profile and still hire you, it's because they saw potential in you and if you can satisfy them to the best of your ability, you don’t have a problem here.

[AB de Royse777]

I'm just curious how he obtained information about your potential clients and how he got to them before you.

I had the same curiosity until I realized that it was obvious because most of the time I reply in public to a new project and offer my service with the discussion. It's possible that he scan my post activity and takes his opportunity. It's still unrealistic to think.

[Dunamisx]

I'm just curious how he obtained information about your potential clients and how he got to them before you.

I had the same curiosity until I realized that it was obvious because most of the time I reply in public to a new project and offer my service with the discussion. It's possible that he scan my post activity and takes his opportunity. It's still unrealistic to think.

I will drop an advise for you @Royse778, sometimes some we called to be our friends were the enemies hidden and unknown to us while the enemies we taught about seeing may not be but you should under that some people do overreact to situations, you need to be more focused on the task of the race ahead of you, many could have got geolous of you through diverse means but you don't necessarily have to keep a listening hears to their noise because they are just but an ordinary crying symbal, if they think they can double cross you then they have just begin an hectic journey of an unfinished task that will end them nowhere and I think the forum and the campaigns needed more of you than these distraction noise, your worth is evident to the forum and well appreciated, some just wish they have achieved your milestone.

[joker_josue]

It will sound repetitive, I know and I apologize in advance.

But, as I saw that the subject is related and so as not to think that I am only looking at one side of the situation, I will repeat what I said in another topic, about this type of confusion:

I wasn't very frequent in this area of the forum, because I was never one to do big business with other members. But, in the last few months I have been paying attention to this section, for several reasons - which may go through some negotiations.

But, from what I've seen in the last few months, what appears here are tantrums between users. What need do I have to know that user X doesn't like Y?
We don't have to like everyone, nor do we all have the same opinions on matters. That's what makes this community interesting and different from many others.

As imperfect people, we all make mistakes in the choices we make. The difference is whether the person is able to learn from those mistakes and change to try to improve in the future. Analysis should be done, whether the user has learned and changed or not.

If we don't like or support a user, there is an "ignore" option that can be used. I see a lot of people giving value to people they don't like.

Don't focus on the problems, focus on the solutions! Learn from past mistakes so as not to repeat them in the future. But for that, you don't have to be stuck in the past.

That said, any warnings and useful information we have about someone here on the forum is always good to share. Then letting each one evaluate what he should do based on that information.

[JollyGood]

Can anyone answer why Poker Player is such aggressive to me?

I saw no aggression on his part but I saw a determination to not give in to you by changing his negative feedback when you started a thread after you managed to get a couple of new campaigns. You wanted the negative feedback removed and he will not do it at the moment and your ego cannot handle it.

It's obvious, I am too good to others and I am not much careful separating people based on liking or I would never PM Poker Player from Casino Critique, or would get a temp ban for sending PM to users inviting to join a campaign. Maybe my heart is too naive to separate friend and enemy. There are many people who like my hard working attitude, align themselves with alike thinking, give their supporting hand when I come up with an idea and ask them to join it. In many occasions together we helped many forum members both financially and by providing information. The history is too long to describe in a paragraph or even few pages of article. It's not just my history, there are many members like me who are in the forum from decade and contributed positively and thought positively.

How unfortunate today users like Poker Player who joined not even two and half years ago, thinks they are fine to insult me.

So when exactly did you purchase the Royse777 account?

Royse777 account changed hands in 2017

How many other accounts do you have? I am curious, naim027 and all his alt/farmed accounts are they operated by you too? Just curious because the way they write is synonymous with your (lack of) style of writing, you have that in common with them.

Poker Player created his account in August 2020, there are no allegations he purchased the account. There were allegations about you buying the account in the past. The Royse777 account was created in 2014 but it changed hands at least once (maybe more) and the allegation was you purchased the Royse777 account in 2017 so clarify for us all when did you end up taking up ownership?

Once you state the fact we can work out how much longer you were here than him and after that you can explain how you think his length of time here versus your length of time here means he cannot challenge you and your comments when he feels you behaved improperly.

And out of curiosity how much did you pay to purchase the Royse777 account?

Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

Has Poker Player confirmed he contacted prospective clients to advise them to avoid you as they could end up losing their money?

Regardless of what the screenshot shows or claims to show, did he ever confirm he contacted businesses to avoid hiring you for their campaigns? Until he comments to confirm or deny I will not comment on it but as far as insulting you is concerned that is your opinion. In your opinion you did not insult him but in the opinion of others (including him), maybe you did.

[AB de Royse777]

Can anyone answer why Poker Player is such aggressive to me?

I saw no aggression on his part but I saw a determination to not give in to you by changing his negative feedback when you started a thread after you managed to get a couple of new campaigns. You wanted the negative feedback removed and he will not do it at the moment and your ego cannot handle it.

It's obvious, I am too good to others and I am not much careful separating people based on liking or I would never PM Poker Player from Casino Critique, or would get a temp ban for sending PM to users inviting to join a campaign. Maybe my heart is too naive to separate friend and enemy. There are many people who like my hard working attitude, align themselves with alike thinking, give their supporting hand when I come up with an idea and ask them to join it. In many occasions together we helped many forum members both financially and by providing information. The history is too long to describe in a paragraph or even few pages of article. It's not just my history, there are many members like me who are in the forum from decade and contributed positively and thought positively.

How unfortunate today users like Poker Player who joined not even two and half years ago, thinks they are fine to insult me.

So when exactly did you purchase the Royse777 account?

Royse777 account changed hands in 2017

How many other accounts do you have? I am curious, naim027 and all his alt/farmed accounts are they operated by you too? Just curious because the way they write is synonymous with your (lack of) style of writing, you have that in common with them.

Poker Player created his account in August 2020, there are no allegations he purchased the account. There were allegations about you buying the account in the past. The Royse777 account was created in 2014 but it changed hands at least once (maybe more) and the allegation was you purchased the Royse777 account in 2017 so clarify for us all when did you end up taking up ownership?

Once you state the fact we can work out how much longer you were here than him and after that you can explain how you think his length of time here versus your length of time here means he cannot challenge you and your comments when he feels you behaved improperly.

And out of curiosity how much did you pay to purchase the Royse777 account?

Poker Player doesn't stop just insulting me but he is picking up my clients and telling them not to hire me because he thinks I will scam them. Do you think this is acceptable behavior?

Has Poker Player confirmed he contacted prospective clients to advise them to avoid your as they could end up losing their money?

Regardless of what the screenshot shows or claims to show, did he ever confirm he contacted businesses to avoid hiring you for their campaigns? Until he comments to confirm or deny I will not comment on it but as far as insulting you is concerned that is your opinion. In your opinion you did not insult him but in the opinion of others (including him), maybe you did.

Pathetic. Do I need to repeat it again? Let me just quote it

Do you think I need your suggestion/advice? I don't. Do you think I need approval from you before doing anything? I don't. Do you think I bother to prove anything that you demand? I don't.

You need to understand, you have no importance for me. Stop inviting me to response for your demand, to read your suggestions, to consider your approval. By now if you have brain then it's clear that I treat you same as the waste in my bin. How am I not in your ignore list yet?

Initially I thought about staying out of this thread because it is not been self-moderated

So what made your mind to change?
This?

Now I have no doubt for your waking up after long days again.
It's because of this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434857.msg61602255#msg61602255

I ask you again, how am I not in your ignore list yet?