Re: My ignore list and my feedbacks and is Poker Player acceptable?

[joker_josue]

So when exactly did you purchase the Royse777 account?

Royse777 account changed hands in 2017

How many other accounts do you have? I am curious, naim027 and all his alt/farmed accounts are they operated by you too? Just curious because the way they write is synonymous with your (lack of) style of writing, you have that in common with them.

Poker Player created his account in August 2020, there are no allegations he purchased the account. There were allegations about you buying the account in the past. The Royse777 account was created in 2014 but it changed hands at least once (maybe more) and the allegation was you purchased the Royse777 account in 2017 so clarify for us all when did you end up taking up ownership?

Once you state the fact we can work out how much longer you were here than him and after that you can explain how you think his length of time here versus your length of time here means he cannot challenge you and your comments when he feels you behaved improperly.

And out of curiosity how much did you pay to purchase the Royse777 account?

Now I'm curious about these observations... so I can prepare for the future.

How is it that a user who previously only posted in the local tab and then starts posting a lot in the sections in English, is synonymous with the account being sold?

I opened an account on the forum in 2013, until 2020, I posted very little in the English sections. But, in these last 2 years I have a lot of posts in the English sections. Does that mean I sold my account?

[JollyGood]

If you are asking me (since you are quoting me I will take it you are), I would ask if you ever had an allegation made against you that your account was either hacked or stolen or sold? If no allegation was made against you then I suppose there is no reason for anybody to suspect you are not the original owner of the joker_josue account. That is my view.

However, if you want a reply from the one who alleged Royse777 is not the original owner of the account you should consider asking the user who created that thread what he thinks but he has not been around here since November 2021 therefore you might not get a reply.

I opened an account on the forum in 2013, until 2020, I posted very little in the English sections. But, in these last 2 years I have a lot of posts in the English sections. Does that mean I sold my account?

[examplens]

If you are asking me (since you are quoting me I will take it you are), I would ask if you ever had an allegation made against you that your account was either hacked or stolen or sold? If no allegation was made against you then I suppose there is no reason for anybody to suspect you are not the original owner of the joker_josue account. That is my view.

allegations made against someone are not significant if they are not based on evidence. Likewise, if there are no accusations against someone, it is not impossible for him to be guilty.

However, if you want a reply from the one who alleged Royse777 is not the original owner of the account you should consider asking the user who created that thread what he thinks but he has not been around here since November 2021 therefore you might not get a reply.

I don't know how to take seriously anything said by one of the worst trolls on the forum. User ArcusIsidar certainly is. I'm surprised it's not on your ignore list. the fact that he attacks someone you don't like is not enough reason to take him seriously. especially if it's a proven troll.

[Poker Player]

I have had to remove Royse777 from ignore because in the other thread I have seen fat lies being told about me.

You lie, liar, I have not sent any PM to anyone to tell them not to do business with you, liar. And that screenshot is fucking bullshit.

You want me to post a screenshot of my PMs you whiny fucking lying dishonest crybaby?

https://imgur.com/a/XlNrHOV
Let me know if you need a screen recording too. I deliberately removed their name by the way. Since then they never replied me.

Yes, I want it, you fucking liar.

What a coincidence that your scumbag friend naim027 was also supposedly proving that you did not play a major role in Bitlucy with screenshots.

Liar.

There you have it. Let the whole world see what a fucking liar you are.

[yahoo62278]

Not trying to stir the pot here, but this proves nothing really. You could have deleted pm s to companies and Royse didn't show who his telegram message was from and prove it was from an actual company advertising here. I see why you would want to dispute it as a few have mentioned it's not right that you might pm a company. It's basically your word against theirs currently and really none of us care I don't think.

[Smartvirus]

In the responses I've seen in this thread, Yahoo62278 has said the most acceptable or becoming on the elephant in the room.
Haven't seen the screenshot posted by Royse777, I would say it is too extreme for anyone to go the length in trying to instill in the minds of clients what isn't completely provable on the forum. I've said it before whole referring to the Julerz12 case, we run a perfect forum here and everyone is expected to be perfectionist but, we are all humans none the less and as humans, we make mistakes. What we hedge on in the forum is our words for and words against.

I can still recall even Royse777 stated to have been scammed of about $6k in the bitlucy.com scam. Given the fact that, most users on the forum are always willing to jump at any opportunity one can find after some possible evaluation, it doesn't erase the fact that, you could as well be victimised. I didn't see the site representative trying to prove themselves on the forum since then like Royse777 did and still, his still here, getting contracts and managing them good too.
Having to pm clients on a trust score and discuss it isn't okay. I do hope we preach the goods of users as much as we preach there flaws.

On the screenshot of PMs, i could see at least 3-4 PMs in sequence for October, November and January. Unfortunately, none reflected December which seemed to be the month displayed on Royse777's allegation's screenshot.

Could it be as Yahoo62278 has stated or there is more to it...! At times I wonder why so much drama when we could just be at peace with ourselves, have your perception and just move on.

[Poker Player]

Not trying to stir the pot here, but this proves nothing really.

Sorry yahoo62278. and what does fuckinglier777's screenshot prove?

It is his capture that proves nothing. If you want to accuse me of sending PMs show proof, not a Telegram screenshot that you could have easily sent to yourself.

fuckinglier777, I am waiting for you screen recording.

Can any moderator confirm that I have not deleted any PMs please?

[Edwardard]

Can any moderator confirm that I have not deleted any PMs please?

Have you reported any PM for them to check?
Quote from hilariousandco:

No, we can't directly read PMs, just ones that are reported directly to us.

Maybe try sending PM to theymos or Cyrus, but I doubt anyone will be interested in your case. High chances they wont even reply

[Poker Player]

Maybe try sending PM to theymos or Cyrus, but I doubt anyone will be interested in your case. High chances they wont even reply

No, no, I am not going to PM any moderator. Whoever wants to believe me, and whoever doesn't, don't believe me. Time will put everyone in their place.

What is clear is that, answering the thread question, yes, my behavior is more than acceptable because I have not gotten myself into the messes that the lying, cowardly OP has gotten himself into.

[Stalker22]

Not trying to stir the pot here, but this proves nothing really.

Sorry yahoo62278. and what does fuckinglier777's screenshot prove?

It is his capture that proves nothing. If you want to accuse me of sending PMs show proof, not a Telegram screenshot that you could have easily sent to yourself.

I understand your perspective. I do not believe the screenshot from Royse proves anything. As anyone can contact him on Telegram and make any claim. Can we consider this as valid evidence? I do not think so.

fuckinglier777, I am waiting for you screen recording.

I do not believe a screen recording would be conclusive evidence either.

Can any moderator confirm that I have not deleted any PMs please?

I am afraid moderators are unlikely to be able to help you with this. It may only be possible for admins, but I doubt they would want to become involved in the situation.

[Poker Player]

Talking about acceptable or unacceptable behavior.

Is this acceptable behavior?

[Full] Mixero bitcoin mixer| Review campaign| Application| 0.00175 btc reward

I mean, a self-moderated review campaign doesn't seem very acceptable to me. I understand that Royse777 self-moderates his campaign threads and other threads, but an honest campaign review should not be self-moderated, although as Royse777 is not honest I should not be so surprised.

The next one I have seen is not self-moderated:

[OPEN]🔥COINSLOTTY🔥 Review Campaign – Rewards From $60 to $70🔥

[Plaguedeath]

I mean, a self-moderated review campaign doesn't seem very acceptable to me. I understand that Royse777 self-moderates his campaign threads and other threads, but an honest campaign review should not be self-moderated, although as Royse777 is not honest I should not be so surprised.

I'm not sure what's the problem here, you seems to exaggerated anything about him.

It's true someone can abuse in self moderated thread since he have a power to delete someone post, but can you show me which post he delete in his self moderated post? he doesn't delete anyone post since there's no details below the subject title.

It will be different if show he delete high quality post about criticism, you can drag that case here.

[Poker Player]

I'm not sure what's the problem here, you seems to exaggerated anything about him.

It is simply that I received a PM alerting me that mixero could be a scam. I don't have much technical knowledge, therefore I can't give my opinion, what has caught my attention is that he makes the thread self-moderated.

It's true someone can abuse in self moderated thread since he have a power to delete someone post, but can you show me which post he delete in his self moderated post? he doesn't delete anyone post since there's no details below the subject title.

It will be different if show he delete high quality post about criticism, you can drag that case here.

And how would I know the content of the deleted posts? I might know the number of posts, but not the content of the posts.

Making it self-moderated gives rise to arbitrariness, another thing is that no one has written a really critical review and therefore has not been deleted, but the fact that it is self-moderated is a deterrent. I don't think people who have a bad review on mixero would post it there because they know it will be deleted, and the one who sent me the PM is one who could have posted it and didn't do it.

[Edwardard]

I don't think people who have a bad review on mixero would post it there because they know it will be deleted,

Although the campaign (application) thread made by Royse was self-moderated, users were never asked to post a review in that thread. Instead the reviews were posted in the mixero ann thread which is not self-moderated and there were some critical reviews too.
Also, I dont think Royse has ever deleted a useful post in his thread, whether it is against him or not?!. If he did, ppl could easily make a new thread asking for a reason. But I guess nobody has made such topics against him yet, ?!

[The Sceptical Chymist]

As far as insulting you goes, you'll just have to get thick skin and deal with that. Make all your topics self moderated and ignore him. Really not much that can be done there. Many wars go on like this in the forum.

^^This is excellent advice, Royse777, and I thought you did have a thicker skin than you're displaying so it's puzzling to me why he's getting under your skin so much and why you continue to engage and escalate things by slinging insults back at him.  Of course that's probably what I'd do myself, but I'd also get bored with it pretty quickly and then just let it go.  I think that's what you ought to do--and I'm intentionally not addressing any of Poker Player's or your points, just the drama between the two of you.

Currently bitcoingirl.club tries to chastise jollygood and time he can. Then there was ognasty and vod. And tons of other little flame wars.

Yeah, like cryptohunter and his alt account brigade.  That was an example where threads were created about him in which he wasn't welcome to post.  It doesn't sound fair, but he had a habit of derailing every single thread he posted in.  Since it's not against the rules to do that, you've obviously taken the path many would and have created your own thread to rebut the accusations against you and whatever else.  Again, I think you ought to just keep a stiff upper lip but I wouldn't like to be attacked and then banned from defending myself either.

This sounds like stale-coffee issues, anyway.  It doesn't look like you've sullied your reputation since the Crypto Critique thing, so...

[LoyceV]

Is this acceptable behavior?
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I mean, a self-moderated review campaign doesn't seem very acceptable to me.

Then don't post there:

Code:

If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

You can see no posts have been deleted. Self-moderation is great against spam.

My stance on the alledged messages: I saw a screenshot that looks like it came from Telegram. It may have actually happened, outside Bitcointalk. We can't know who sent it. So it proves nothing.

My advice: Move on!
@Royse777: ignore the other guy. Close your topic on him.
@Poker Player: ignore the other guy. Close your topic on him.
We get it, you don't like each other. That's okay. You're not supposed to like everyone on the internet.

[Poker Player]

Regarding the self-moderated thread, I see that being the reviews in another there is nothing questionable, as Edwardard and LoyceV have commented.

@Royse777: ignore the other guy. Close your topic on him.
@Poker Player: ignore the other guy. Close your topic on him.
We get it, you don't like each other. That's okay. You're not supposed to like everyone on the internet.

No, LoyceV, I will not make that mistake again. I'm not going to put him on ignore again because since he's also a liar if he tells lies about me I won't be able to defend myself. In fact

My stance on the alledged messages: I saw a screenshot that looks like it came from Telegram. It may have actually happened, outside Bitcointalk. We can't know who sent it. So it proves nothing.

things like this have been said in these threads after I defended myself. When he said that I was sending messages to his clients, as if I didn't have better things to do, everyone who commented took it for granted that it was true. I guess I won't need to start quoting here.

So I have realized that this is a mistake I will not make again. It's one thing to put someone on ignore because he's constantly trolling or something, but someone you've had reputation discussions with? Not a chance. I'm going to keep a close eye on him.

[LoyceV]

No, LoyceV, I will not make that mistake again. I'm not going to put him on ignore again because since he's also a liar if he tells lies about me I won't be able to defend myself. In fact

That sounds familiar, a certain Donator does the same to me, for years now. Once every few months, he posts some shit about me (preferrably when it's completely off-topic). Most people see right through it anyway, but once in a while, I respond with facts. That quiets him down for months again. Either way, I love having him on ignore. See my personal text

[Poker Player]

That sounds familiar, a certain Donator does the same to me, for years now. Once every few months, he posts some shit about me (preferrably when it's completely off-topic). Most people see right through it anyway, but once in a while, I respond with facts. That quiets him down for months again. Either way, I love having him on ignore. See my personal text

I see a contradiction here. If you have him on ignore, how come you respond to him with facts?   Well, that's just what I was talking about.

[LoyceV]

I see a contradiction here. If you have him on ignore, how come you respond to him with facts?

When someone quotes his BS wondering what it's coming for, I see the quote. And when it's someone who's opinion I value, or when it's just totally misleading, I can't always stay out of the drama.