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February 24, 2023, 04:57:57 PM
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They just had their first face to face at the press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho4nda7fLJg

What I found funny/interesting is Jake proposed a double or nothing bet to Tommy that if he loses Tommy gets double his purse and Jake gets nothing and even had the contract/bet ready to sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZClH_f-k9M

Tommy's dad John Fury was quick to accept quite vocally but Tommy didn't seem too sure and looks like he tried to start a scuffle to change the topic haha. Tommy has seemed very confident up until that. I guess if he was so sure he would gladly take the bet but I don't blame him if he doesn't. Potentially going home with nothing would probably be too much to handle.

Tyson is over there now so maybe his presence will add a bit of extra spice.

Lol I was about to comment about the all or nothing bet between Fury and Paul.  Paul seems agitated by the comment of Fury that it is an easy fight.  And that Paul will lost since he is now facing a fresh boxer and not a washed up MMA old players.  So Paul wanted to make a bet as you stated, the winner take all.  Now that sounds very interesting.

That's why there's a lot of people who supports Jake Paul because he got a good initiative how to turn the tides into his favor, he surely knows how to use it too well so that he will not be silence by any comments made by other camps or some speculative hypes. Jake Paul indeed got an extraordinary mouth for saying something like that out of the blue and with contract prepared which was really unexpected by the opposite camp as they are surely surprised about it. For that, Jake Paul deserves my thumbs up Cheesy

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February 24, 2023, 05:03:31 PM
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Jake Paul actually took a paycut to make sure all the fighters on his undercard were paid career-highs so you have to respect that. Not many boxers would willingly take a pay cut like that to make sure other boxers were properly compensated. Jake even paid the fighters on the undercard 50% of their purse when his fight against Hasim Rahman Jr fell through: https://twitter.com/jakepaul/status/1555900413832220675

Love him or hate him at least Jake is standing behind his mouth.
Which is brillant, it's hard not to like someone willing to take a pay cut in order to feed other boxers which he thinks are getting under paid. That's brilliant. Alright, you could argue Jake Paul is already rich, therefore he's in the position to do things like this, where others aren't. However, he doesn't have too, and not many of the richer people before him did things like that.

I'm starting to become a Jake Paul fan, which is weird thing to be saying in 2022, when I didn't like his Youtube antics, and who he portrayed to the media all those years ago. However, to me he's really showing a different side to him, and I think I do believe most of what he has done in previous years was a character rather than himself.
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February 24, 2023, 05:05:04 PM
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I won't be betting on the fight. There's way too many unknowns, since we don't actually know the true level of Jake yet, although he has looked decent. We sort of know what to expect from Tommy Fury, but again that all depends on how Jake goes about the fight.

There's also the size difference, and those extra long arms of Tommy Fury against Jake who hasn't really had to deal with a sophisticated jab yet. Again, I'm not sure Tommy Fury is a boxer with a sophisticated jab despite basically being built for it.

I'll be tuning in though, and I think that speaks volumes of what Jake Paul has done. I don't usually watch Tommy's fights, but I've tuned into almost all of Jake Paul's. He definitely brings eyes to the sport, and while I wouldn't normally be excited for a Jake Paul match up, I'm pretty excited for this bout. Mainly, out of curiosity.

Same here, it's much better for me to keep a safe distance from betting on this fight as from my perspective, it's like a 50:50 because I really don't know who got the upper hand as both said boxers are difficult to fathom as of this time considering that they haven't made any legitimate fight yet that includes rankings. But for sure though, I'll be looking for the outcome and watch some reels from their fight, time is near.

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February 24, 2023, 05:28:14 PM
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Jake Paul has made a bet with Tommy Fury that if Tommy Fury wins he gets double the paycheck but if he loses he gets nothing. They both shaked hands on the deal so I do not know if that is legally binding but there is video evidence of it happening but both fighters look confident going into this fight. Tommy Fury does not normally get as angry as he was in the build up to this fight so I am excited to see if he can use that anger in the ring against Jake Paul.
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February 24, 2023, 07:02:38 PM
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They just had their first face to face at the press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho4nda7fLJg

What I found funny/interesting is Jake proposed a double or nothing bet to Tommy that if he loses Tommy gets double his purse and Jake gets nothing and even had the contract/bet ready to sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZClH_f-k9M

Tommy's dad John Fury was quick to accept quite vocally but Tommy didn't seem too sure and looks like he tried to start a scuffle to change the topic haha. Tommy has seemed very confident up until that. I guess if he was so sure he would gladly take the bet but I don't blame him if he doesn't. Potentially going home with nothing would probably be too much to handle.

Tyson is over there now so maybe his presence will add a bit of extra spice.

Funny how Tommy is silent about their fight, how he barely response to trashtalk. How rages John Fury is over Jake, and how friendly Tyson Fury and Jake behave. Hole bunch of emotions in Fury family, ignorance, love and hate.

Somehow I feel that Tommy does not really wants to fight. Not because he is scared or something like that. But like he was dragged to that fight without much desire. Perhaps, that is due to influence of John Fury. It does not look like Tommy wanted to be a professional boxer when he was a kid.

It was the father's doing that influenced Tommy to be a boxer like his half-brother, Tyson. It's really seems that he doesn't have any choice but to follow his father's command because he doesn't want to be rejected from the family and he needed to be stronger as his Tyson is already making an example.

But in the first place, I reckon that Tommy doesn't want to participate in this bout. He was just forced to do it because he was given a warning that he's no longer welcome to the family if he's not going to do it and if he gets defeated, the father made a statement that he should quit for good in the industry if that happens. So, I'm thinking that Tommy is more inclined to the 2nd choice where he will be a free man and won't be forced to do such fights.

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February 24, 2023, 07:42:19 PM
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Not sure I'd trust John's blind confidence here. Maybe Tommy doesn't care because he's getting a huge amount to fight win or lose. I heard he's getting between 2 to 5 million which is a life changing amount for him and that's a sum a boxer of his calibre would never get otherwise. He's basically been getting a few grand for his other fights. He was paid £11,000 to fight Anthony Taylor in 2021 and Jake Paul was the first person to pay him a decent wage and a career high for Tommy when he put him on the undercard of one of his Woodley fights and I think he got £10-20k for that. Jake Paul actually took a paycut to make sure all the fighters on his undercard were paid career-highs so you have to respect that. Not many boxers would willingly take a pay cut like that to make sure other boxers were properly compensated. Jake even paid the fighters on the undercard 50% of their purse when his fight against Hasim Rahman Jr fell through: https://twitter.com/jakepaul/status/1555900413832220675

Love him or hate him at least Jake is standing behind his mouth.
We all have to admit that Jake Paul is a great marketer. He does everything very smartly, he builds his career step by step and puts a lot of work into it. He is not a retarded youtuber, he is very clever.
Btw both of them have gone too far and this is a very serious match for both of them, I would say that this match will either end Jake's career or Fury's career. If Fury wins, he takes all the money, proves that Jake is a pussy youtuber that only fights retired elders, etc and additionally, he will become very popular, it will tremendously boost his career, profit, ego, everything. But if Jake wins, he will prove that he is not just an youtuber but a real boxer who is capable to fight against anyone and destroy them, he will shut Fury's mouth and destroy Fury's future. If Jake wins, he will boooooost his income cause many fighters will wish to fight with him and Jake will become 2x more popular. He will become a reason for media to generate tons of clickbaits and increase Jake's awareness.

I think that Jake will win this fight. He always chooses fights that he wins and he has hired professional trainers, takes training very seriously and is very responsible and definitely it was clear that Fury is not that confident in himself as he admits. I even think he regrets the day when he challenged Paul.

Which is brillant, it's hard not to like someone willing to take a pay cut in order to feed other boxers which he thinks are getting under paid. That's brilliant. Alright, you could argue Jake Paul is already rich, therefore he's in the position to do things like this, where others aren't. However, he doesn't have too, and not many of the richer people before him did things like that.

I'm starting to become a Jake Paul fan, which is weird thing to be saying in 2022, when I didn't like his Youtube antics, and who he portrayed to the media all those years ago. However, to me he's really showing a different side to him, and I think I do believe most of what he has done in previous years was a character rather than himself.
Jake Paul is a great marketer. While I genuinely believe he does all to boost his income in future and build himself, anyways, it's still good that he helps others and benefits the sportsmen.
Well, I'll never become his fan, I don't like these brothers but I think they are smart, especially Jake.

However, Conor McGregor will always be the best showman for me.

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February 24, 2023, 07:49:37 PM
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That's why there's a lot of people who supports Jake Paul because he got a good initiative how to turn the tides into his favor, he surely knows how to use it too well so that he will not be silence by any comments made by other camps or some speculative hypes. Jake Paul indeed got an extraordinary mouth for saying something like that out of the blue and with contract prepared which was really unexpected by the opposite camp as they are surely surprised about it. For that, Jake Paul deserves my thumbs up Cheesy

Seems Jake Paul is a good marketer/promoter. he sees things as an opportunity to heighten the intensity of the fight.  The winner take all deal will really take the audience attention, I wonder if it will propagate and be added on the contract.

Somehow I feel that Tommy does not really wants to fight. Not because he is scared or something like that. But like he was dragged to that fight without much desire. Perhaps, that is due to influence of John Fury. It does not look like Tommy wanted to be a professional boxer when he was a kid.

It seems so, if we listen and think of the context of Jake Paul when he is talking about Tommy Fury evading him many times, that he needs to raise the money to pay Tommy that Tommy got interested in fighting him.  But whether he is dragged to the fight or not, the contract is signed and Tommy Fury has to fight Jake Paul on the scheduled date.


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Jake Paul does have a brilliant mind for making things possible. The tattoo deal he offered to Woodley seems to be a deal breaker. It's funny yet in the fighter's mind it makes them wanna prove something.

He does have the edge in the media and even in the ring after all, he became a real boxer after defeating big names. He might fight Mike Tyson too, this might need bigger funds for him.

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February 24, 2023, 08:10:15 PM
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Jake Paul actually took a paycut to make sure all the fighters on his undercard were paid career-highs so you have to respect that. Not many boxers would willingly take a pay cut like that to make sure other boxers were properly compensated. Jake even paid the fighters on the undercard 50% of their purse when his fight against Hasim Rahman Jr fell through: https://twitter.com/jakepaul/status/1555900413832220675

Love him or hate him at least Jake is standing behind his mouth.
Which is brillant, it's hard not to like someone willing to take a pay cut in order to feed other boxers which he thinks are getting under paid. That's brilliant. Alright, you could argue Jake Paul is already rich, therefore he's in the position to do things like this, where others aren't. However, he doesn't have too, and not many of the richer people before him did things like that.

I'm starting to become a Jake Paul fan, which is weird thing to be saying in 2022, when I didn't like his Youtube antics, and who he portrayed to the media all those years ago. However, to me he's really showing a different side to him, and I think I do believe most of what he has done in previous years was a character rather than himself.

Jake's doing the promotion thing right. You can make money off others but pay them fairly and what they're worth. Everybody he's worked with has sung their praises about the way he does business. He's even taking women's boxing to the next level and got both Serrano and Katie Taylor their highest payday selling out Madison Square Garden. Serano got a million minimum for that and women were getting paid peanuts prior.  I doubt Serano was even getting $100k before Jake got involved and guaranteed her a million dollars if she signed and he was true to his word.

Same here, it's much better for me to keep a safe distance from betting on this fight as from my perspective, it's like a 50:50 because I really don't know who got the upper hand as both said boxers are difficult to fathom as of this time considering that they haven't made any legitimate fight yet that includes rankings. But for sure though, I'll be looking for the outcome and watch some reels from their fight, time is near.

I think that's what makes this so appealing. Fights are boring when you know one fighter is going to go in there and blitz the other like Fury did to Chisora. I have no idea what's going to happen in this fight. Either could get KO-d, it could go the distance or we might even see an early KO. I just can't see either fighter knocking each other out but we know they've both got the power to do so but neither has been KOd or even knocked down yet. Both fighters also seem very confident which makes it harder to predict. The pressure is on Fury though and even he accepts that but does seem cool about it all but that could all crack as soon as he's in the ring.

Jake Paul has made a bet with Tommy Fury that if Tommy Fury wins he gets double the paycheck but if he loses he gets nothing. They both shaked hands on the deal so I do not know if that is legally binding but there is video evidence of it happening but both fighters look confident going into this fight. Tommy Fury does not normally get as angry as he was in the build up to this fight so I am excited to see if he can use that anger in the ring against Jake Paul.

Unless they both sign that contract/bet I'd just take it as hype. Whilst it's technically legally binding as an oral contract that's not how they do things in boxing and you'd have to sue the other if they didn't pay up and even then you could maybe argue it was never a legit proposition without the contract being signed (which Jake had ready).


However, Conor McGregor will always be the best showman for me.

Jake's rise reminds me of Connor back in the day. He's certainly following the McGregor playbook, but I actually think he could go on to be as big as him if he keeps winning. I dare say we might even see them fight each other at some point and I'd love to see that. Jake has mentioned recently his next fight might be against Nate Diaz and that could put him one step closer to fighting Connor. That fight would probably be as big as Connor/Mayweather so there's no reason why it couldn't happen. Connor just needs to run his UFC contract down and then just fight on his own terms.

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February 24, 2023, 08:38:01 PM
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Jake Paul does have a brilliant mind for making things possible. The tattoo deal he offered to Woodley seems to be a deal breaker. It's funny yet in the fighter's mind it makes them wanna prove something.

He does have the edge in the media and even in the ring after all, he became a real boxer after defeating big names. He might fight Mike Tyson too, this might need bigger funds for him.

I doubt the "winner takes all" bet will hold up in any court of law and I doubt if Tommy loses he'll be giving Jake a cent.  I guess we'll find out, as after seeing Tommy's fights I don't think he stands a chance against Jake.  Maybe I'm wrong though.  Jake's opponents haven't all been too great...

I think the Mike Tyson fight flew out the window when it became clear that they didn't really want to pay the cost to fight the boss.  Tyson isn't getting any younger and gave them a window where he would possibly be willing to fight.  They couldn't meet his contract demands so that fight went bye bye.  It will never happen.

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Tommy Fury is being understimated. Look who Jake Paul has fought, nothing but taxi drivers or mma fighters way past their prime. At least he's gonna fight a real pro boxer this time.
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Can someone explain to me this new "entertainment boxing" thing? I get that boxing is watched a lot, I remember clearly when pacman fought mayweather and that was an insane period, definitely not something underrated, one of the most watched and all that. But this? This is basically a youtuber fighting a boxers brother who is famous for being on a reality show.

I get that they had a few fights, but most of them were entertainment fights and nothing to do with real title chance. Like anyone who is on their way to win the real title, would simply destroy these two in a single round, without a doubt. I am not entirely if they are checked for juicing or not, they look pretty juiced from the photos as well.

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Link to the OFFICIAL weigh in 04:30 EST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfN2EdKlvko

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February 25, 2023, 10:56:42 AM
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I get that they had a few fights, but most of them were entertainment fights and nothing to do with real title chance. Like anyone who is on their way to win the real title, would simply destroy these two in a single round, without a doubt. I am not entirely if they are checked for juicing or not, they look pretty juiced from the photos as well.
This is actually a professional fight Grin

I think many boxers was start from fighting weak boxers until they're more experienced and then they will take a challenger to become a champion. The difference is many journalists doesn't care to follow the record when the boxers fight with a weak boxers, but since Jake Paul is famous and they can make a lot money, those journalists following Paul record from his first fight.

Link to the OFFICIAL weigh in 04:30 EST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfN2EdKlvko
Lol Tommy Fury get heated by Jake Paul Cheesy

So WBC created a special belt named "Diriyah champion" in this fight [1] the winner will able to get ranked up in WBC, maybe it might able to be included at 10th position. The winning method odds have been added, the odds for Paul to win via decision is 3.90x which I think it's worth to bet. Both of them have striking power, but I think they will able to survive until the end.


[1] https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1341959/jake-paul-tommy-fury-wbc-new-belt-diriyah-champion/

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February 25, 2023, 11:30:42 AM
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 There is a lot of hype around the fight, a lot of attention will be riveted to it, so everyone will try to survive to the end. I don't know who I would give the advantage in this fight, it's really hard for me to evaluate them before the fight, I think that they themselves will need some time to see what can be expected from each other. I would like the fight to end in a knockout to eliminate all controversial points with referee decisions. May the strongest win!

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February 25, 2023, 11:43:45 AM
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Can someone explain to me this new "entertainment boxing" thing? I get that boxing is watched a lot, I remember clearly when pacman fought mayweather and that was an insane period, definitely not something underrated, one of the most watched and all that. But this? This is basically a youtuber fighting a boxers brother who is famous for being on a reality show.

I get that they had a few fights, but most of them were entertainment fights and nothing to do with real title chance. Like anyone who is on their way to win the real title, would simply destroy these two in a single round, without a doubt.

It's entertainment just like any other fight. It's basically just white collar boxing mixed with celebrity boxing which is nothing new. They have an audience and know they can sell tickets and bring in eyeballs so they are crossing over into new markets to capitalise on that. Youtubers are born entertainers and they know how to sell a fight. Just look at the numbers. They're getting paid more than pretty much all pro boxers minus the superstars like Tyson/AJ/Wilder etc but they'll probably get to those numbers if they continue to grow and market their fights as they're doing.

I am not entirely if they are checked for juicing or not, they look pretty juiced from the photos as well.

Come on now. This is just the standard armchair fan youtuber comment based on nothing. Neither of them look juiced up. They're both just trim and in good shape but are clearly not juiced up. This is what people on steroids look like:



They're also both vada tested and have been for years.

I get that they had a few fights, but most of them were entertainment fights and nothing to do with real title chance. Like anyone who is on their way to win the real title, would simply destroy these two in a single round, without a doubt. I am not entirely if they are checked for juicing or not, they look pretty juiced from the photos as well.
This is actually a professional fight Grin

I think many boxers was start from fighting weak boxers until they're more experienced and then they will take a challenger to become a champion. The difference is many journalists doesn't care to follow the record when the boxers fight with a weak boxers, but since Jake Paul is famous and they can make a lot money, those journalists following Paul record from his first fight.



It's pretty much industry standard for new fighters to fight bums and journeymen early on in their career and makes sense. If you're a promoter and you have a new prospect it makes little sense to put them in the ring with someone who's going to beat them up. You need to dip your toe in the water and work yourself up to bigger fights.

So WBC created a special belt named "Diriyah champion" in this fight [1] the winner will able to get ranked up in WBC, maybe it might able to be included at 10th position. The winning method odds have been added, the odds for Paul to win via decision is 3.90x which I think it's worth to bet. Both of them have striking power, but I think they will able to survive until the end.

It's not a top 15 ranking but a top 40. That makes sense as there's a bunch of nobodies in the top 40 with similar win records to that of Tommy and Jake so that's no real surprise. I think both of them could get into the top 15 with 2 or 3 wins though as there's a few people in there with only slightly better records in terms of fights and wins, but I didn't look into their opponents. They could have fought some decent people or been entirely bums.

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February 25, 2023, 01:38:42 PM
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So WBC created a special belt named "Diriyah champion" in this fight [1] the winner will able to get ranked up in WBC, maybe it might able to be included at 10th position. The winning method odds have been added, the odds for Paul to win via decision is 3.90x which I think it's worth to bet. Both of them have striking power, but I think they will able to survive until the end.


[1] https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1341959/jake-paul-tommy-fury-wbc-new-belt-diriyah-champion/

Its great promotion for the fight, they want the fight to have importance in the eyes of the boxing community, there's added attraction if there is or are belts that are at stake, this belt is specifically designed for this fight alone, but I don't think it will add motivation for both fighters because both fighters already overflowing with motivation and hatred too.
So the winner will have something to commemorate and memorabilia on his table for this fight with this belt.


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February 25, 2023, 01:44:24 PM
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None of them are taking steroids they are professional athletes and that is why they look ripped what else do you expect from athletes which dedicate their life to boxing? I hate the discussion of steroids because most fighters are now tested and most of them test negative. Only a couple of them have tested positive and they are not normally taking steroids for their whole career but try to take them during injuries.
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OK, now it is officially on, I’m really looking forward to this one.


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Jake Paul has made a bet with Tommy Fury that if Tommy Fury wins he gets double the paycheck but if he loses he gets nothing. They both shaked hands on the deal so I do not know if that is legally binding but there is video evidence of it happening but both fighters look confident going into this fight. Tommy Fury does not normally get as angry as he was in the build up to this fight so I am excited to see if he can use that anger in the ring against Jake Paul.

I am no lawyer nor do I have any kind of law degree or education but it would seem logical to me that even a verbal contract is a binding one. And the fact that they shook hands on that agreement and acknowledged AND that it will recorded on video is more than enough proof of a legally binding agreement. The bet must be honored. If the loser of the bet chickens out and tries to go back on his word, then those actions should have legal consequences for that man.

Not to mention the amount of honor and fans the loser will lose if he goes back on his word. People don't like liars like that who go back on their promises...


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