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February 25, 2023, 06:06:17 PM
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Can someone explain to me this new "entertainment boxing" thing? I get that boxing is watched a lot, I remember clearly when pacman fought mayweather and that was an insane period, definitely not something underrated, one of the most watched and all that. But this? This is basically a youtuber fighting a boxers brother who is famous for being on a reality show.

I get that they had a few fights, but most of them were entertainment fights and nothing to do with real title chance. Like anyone who is on their way to win the real title, would simply destroy these two in a single round, without a doubt. I am not entirely if they are checked for juicing or not, they look pretty juiced from the photos as well.

We can't really blame them if they see this industry as gold and honey because anyone can really make millions of dollars in almost twice per year as long as you got a huge fan base that will be around you and to support you in situations like these. You don't have to be a certified boxer or fighter to make a fight, that's the reality these days as anyone can make a good profit fight even without the support of the existing governing bodies.

We are just fortunate enough because we've seen the good old days where boxing is just too good to watch. Boxers have definitely thrived hard enough to gather and make someone their fans as technology wasn't as good as we have now, that's why if they are famous, it's expected that they are strong and hard.
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February 25, 2023, 07:16:35 PM
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Jake Paul does have a brilliant mind for making things possible. The tattoo deal he offered to Woodley seems to be a deal breaker. It's funny yet in the fighter's mind it makes them wanna prove something.

He does have the edge in the media and even in the ring after all, he became a real boxer after defeating big names. He might fight Mike Tyson too, this might need bigger funds for him.

I doubt the "winner takes all" bet will hold up in any court of law and I doubt if Tommy loses he'll be giving Jake a cent.  I guess we'll find out, as after seeing Tommy's fights I don't think he stands a chance against Jake.  Maybe I'm wrong though.  Jake's opponents haven't all been too great...

I think the Mike Tyson fight flew out the window when it became clear that they didn't really want to pay the cost to fight the boss.  Tyson isn't getting any younger and gave them a window where he would possibly be willing to fight.  They couldn't meet his contract demands so that fight went bye bye.  It will never happen.

I'd be surprised if Tommy will win, I couldn't scratch the possibility still as he is also a boxer. It's not the winner take all bet that made the fight possible as well. Maybe the constant trolling of Jake and getting into the skin of the Fury family so Tyson drags his brother to just go for it win or loses.

Since Mike Tyson did an exhibition with Jones, it could be possible with Jake too. All it needs is to show the money. Anyway, good luck to us all.
All hail Jake, hope to win some satoshis tomorrow.

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February 25, 2023, 07:40:18 PM
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Jake Paul has made a bet with Tommy Fury that if Tommy Fury wins he gets double the paycheck but if he loses he gets nothing. They both shaked hands on the deal so I do not know if that is legally binding but there is video evidence of it happening but both fighters look confident going into this fight. Tommy Fury does not normally get as angry as he was in the build up to this fight so I am excited to see if he can use that anger in the ring against Jake Paul.

I am no lawyer nor do I have any kind of law degree or education but it would seem logical to me that even a verbal contract is a binding one. And the fact that they shook hands on that agreement and acknowledged AND that it will recorded on video is more than enough proof of a legally binding agreement. The bet must be honored. If the loser of the bet chickens out and tries to go back on his word, then those actions should have legal consequences for that man.

Not to mention the amount of honor and fans the loser will lose if he goes back on his word. People don't like liars like that who go back on their promises...



I agree, there's no need for a paper and pen to make the bet legal. I ain't a lawyer either or a person that do knows all the loopholes about the law but mostly, a video containing a verbal agreement as an evidence is more than enough to file for a claim in-case the losing side will suddenly chicken out after the fact that they shook their hands to make the deal happen. The losing side just can't make up any good excuse to justify their actions, just in-case.

In this instance, the losing side will not just lose all the possible money he could get but the reward as well such as a promise from the WBC that the winner will be included in the rankings and that means everything as it's a door of opportunity.

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February 25, 2023, 07:52:38 PM
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Since Mike Tyson did an exhibition with Jones, it could be possible with Jake too. All it needs is to show the money. Anyway, good luck to us all.
All hail Jake, hope to win some satoshis tomorrow.

I'd pay to see Jake be pounded by Mike Tyson in a somewhat serious manner. Mike is quite old and has since embraced gentleness after realizing that he has lived a rather violent life, but the man can still throw some insanely strong punches when he wanted to. I think if the money is good, Mike Tyson will give this one a go. Then again, we know that Jake selects his opponents very carefully and that he doesn't really fight someone professional in the field of boxing.
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February 25, 2023, 08:13:47 PM
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They just had their first face to face at the press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho4nda7fLJg

What I found funny/interesting is Jake proposed a double or nothing bet to Tommy that if he loses Tommy gets double his purse and Jake gets nothing and even had the contract/bet ready to sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZClH_f-k9M

Tommy's dad John Fury was quick to accept quite vocally but Tommy didn't seem too sure and looks like he tried to start a scuffle to change the topic haha. Tommy has seemed very confident up until that. I guess if he was so sure he would gladly take the bet but I don't blame him if he doesn't. Potentially going home with nothing would probably be too much to handle.

Tyson is over there now so maybe his presence will add a bit of extra spice.

Lol I was about to comment about the all or nothing bet between Fury and Paul.  Paul seems agitated by the comment of Fury that it is an easy fight.  And that Paul will lost since he is now facing a fresh boxer and not a washed up MMA old players.  So Paul wanted to make a bet as you stated, the winner take all.  Now that sounds very interesting.

That's why there's a lot of people who supports Jake Paul because he got a good initiative how to turn the tides into his favor, he surely knows how to use it too well so that he will not be silence by any comments made by other camps or some speculative hypes. Jake Paul indeed got an extraordinary mouth for saying something like that out of the blue and with contract prepared which was really unexpected by the opposite camp as they are surely surprised about it. For that, Jake Paul deserves my thumbs up Cheesy

That is what the people want. He exactly gives them what they want and he talks the way they want him to talk.

What I really wonder is how much of all his behavior is show and how much he is actually himself, or whether both is the same, that he is just a show guy.

Every time these guys meet in the boxing ring and are head to head, looking at each other as if there was enmity between them, I guess it is mostly Hollywood acting. But Jake Paul understands how to make money off of that.

But his attitude is a bit annoying to say the least. That is why this fight is interesting as he is going to meet an opponent who has all the expertise in the background. Now it comes down to executing perfect technique against someone who made a hobby his main source of income. Cheesy

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February 25, 2023, 08:19:09 PM
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Since Mike Tyson did an exhibition with Jones, it could be possible with Jake too. All it needs is to show the money. Anyway, good luck to us all.
All hail Jake, hope to win some satoshis tomorrow.

I'd pay to see Jake be pounded by Mike Tyson in a somewhat serious manner. Mike is quite old and has since embraced gentleness after realizing that he has lived a rather violent life, but the man can still throw some insanely strong punches when he wanted to. I think if the money is good, Mike Tyson will give this one a go. Then again, we know that Jake selects his opponents very carefully and that he doesn't really fight someone professional in the field of boxing.

But isn't Mike Tyson got some kind of illness? And I think he will not be fit to fight anymore.

Anyway, they are making a lot of noise during the official weigh in, Tommy Fury seems hyped while Jake Paul is just chilling.  Btw, Have you noticed the difference in how their body is ripped?  Jake Paul seems not conditioned to fight, well compare to how ripped the body of Tommy Fury is.

Here is the video of the weigh-in btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOHb3cQ_iqc

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February 25, 2023, 09:16:28 PM
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Jake Paul has made a bet with Tommy Fury that if Tommy Fury wins he gets double the paycheck but if he loses he gets nothing. They both shaked hands on the deal so I do not know if that is legally binding but there is video evidence of it happening but both fighters look confident going into this fight. Tommy Fury does not normally get as angry as he was in the build up to this fight so I am excited to see if he can use that anger in the ring against Jake Paul.

I am no lawyer nor do I have any kind of law degree or education but it would seem logical to me that even a verbal contract is a binding one. And the fact that they shook hands on that agreement and acknowledged AND that it will recorded on video is more than enough proof of a legally binding agreement. The bet must be honored. If the loser of the bet chickens out and tries to go back on his word, then those actions should have legal consequences for that man.

Not to mention the amount of honor and fans the loser will lose if he goes back on his word. People don't like liars like that who go back on their promises...



I agree, there's no need for a paper and pen to make the bet legal. I ain't a lawyer either or a person that do knows all the loopholes about the law but mostly, a video containing a verbal agreement as an evidence is more than enough to file for a claim in-case the losing side will suddenly chicken out after the fact that they shook their hands to make the deal happen. The losing side just can't make up any good excuse to justify their actions, just in-case.

In this instance, the losing side will not just lose all the possible money he could get but the reward as well such as a promise from the WBC that the winner will be included in the rankings and that means everything as it's a door of opportunity.
It depends on where this happens but this should be legally binding, there was a very famous case in which  Ryan Leslie a singer and a producer lost his laptop and offered one million dollars to the one that could give it back to him, someone found the laptop and returned it but he refused to pay the man, he was sued and the person won the whole amount plus the interests, and since Leslie declared bankruptcy he had to give way the rights to his music to pay what he owes.

Sources: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ryan-leslie-laptop-lawsuit-1-million_n_2212756
https://thesource.com/2017/11/29/ryan-leslie-gives-music-catalog/



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February 25, 2023, 10:42:45 PM
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I am more excited about this boxing fight than about MMA events this week, and I see people in social media are thinking the same like me.
Fury is favorite for and his brother Tyson said that he should win this fight, but bookies made Jake Paul a favorite and that is good for me.
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February 25, 2023, 10:54:55 PM
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Here's the official weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwDpIiUPoHE

Fury - 184.5 lbs
Paul - 183.6 lbs

As usual, some pushing to hype the fight even more hehehe, but it is expected that this is going to be huge as far as PPV numbers in the Middle East/London and the US.


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The match is between Social Media and Real Boxing. Team Social Media represented by Jake Paul and the team Real Boxing is represented by the brother of Tyson, Tommy Fury. The most hyped match is scheduled for tomorrow, and we don't know whether this is going to be an entertainment or real boxing. Jake Paul who isn't a professional boxer have won all the six bouts and this had made the match against Tommy Fury even more interesting.

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February 26, 2023, 04:50:18 AM
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They just had their first face to face at the press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho4nda7fLJg

What I found funny/interesting is Jake proposed a double or nothing bet to Tommy that if he loses Tommy gets double his purse and Jake gets nothing and even had the contract/bet ready to sign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZClH_f-k9M

Tommy's dad John Fury was quick to accept quite vocally but Tommy didn't seem too sure and looks like he tried to start a scuffle to change the topic haha. Tommy has seemed very confident up until that. I guess if he was so sure he would gladly take the bet but I don't blame him if he doesn't. Potentially going home with nothing would probably be too much to handle.

Tyson is over there now so maybe his presence will add a bit of extra spice.

This would be very funny for the loser who will go home with nothing except blacks and blues hehehehe.

I reckon the hesitation from Tommy was not because he was not confident. It was because he did not know what to tell Jake. This might be because it was not for him to make the decision. It appeared for me that it might be the father who decides and manages the financial decisions for this fight. Tommy can blame John on Monday hehehehehe.

The stakes are so high now in this fight it just keeps adding up because Jake Paul keeps challenging and baiting Tommy Fury, people will be excited to see this fight and the outcome, there are so many first on this fight, only two days before the fight I am more excited on the weigh-in and final face-off, I hope there are no more delays but I want more dramas and thrash talks because this fight thrives on the drama and thrash talks both fighters and their team delivers.

Agreed! Jake Paul expected the trashtalks from Tommy Fury and he knew what to reply already. He is attacking where it will very much hurt the Fury family. Taking all of their money and let them go home with only black and blues hehehehe.

In any case, does anyone speculate that Jake can knockout Tommy? It might be difficult because Tommy is a professional boxer who has enough experience to avoid Jake's tricks.

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This might be off topic but I'd still share it since it is somewhat related to the fight. just saw this tweet that looks to be like a script that was posted on Twitter. what's written there is ridiculous that you'd laugh reading it. whoever took that photo is either just trolling, trying to discredit jake paul if he wins, or as one of the comments there mentioned that it could be an attempt to manipulate the betting markets(not sure how).

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This might be off topic but I'd still share it since it is somewhat related to the fight. just saw this tweet that looks to be like a script that was posted on Twitter. what's written there is ridiculous that you'd laugh reading it. whoever took that photo is either just trolling, trying to discredit jake paul if he wins, or as one of the comments there mentioned that it could be an attempt to manipulate the betting markets(not sure how).

If this is true then they will need to change the script because its only hours before the fight but like all the comments on that tweet it dumps script if you included a swelling in the eyes if Fury intentionally exposes his eyes people will see that and suspect that he's fixing it, and I don't think they can rehearse the script because they really hate the presence of each other.
This so-called script is created to like what you said discredit Paul because people hate to see Jake Paul winning and don't want him to become notorious as a Youtuber that's knocking out his opponents.


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February 26, 2023, 02:22:14 PM
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What's happening with the betting lines?  Just a few hours before the fight, there's a lot of action going into Tommy Fury.  I think it was close to 1.60 just a couple of days ago for Jake Paul.  Right now the line is at 1.77 and it went as high as 1.85 or so a couple of hours ago.

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43306904-paul-jake-fury-tommy

Is everybody still as confident for a win for Jake Paul as his prior fights?  Beating Anderson Silva got my attention but dunno...  Does Tommy Fury have something on Paul?

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February 26, 2023, 02:54:35 PM
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What's happening with the betting lines?  Just a few hours before the fight, there's a lot of action going into Tommy Fury.  I think it was close to 1.60 just a couple of days ago for Jake Paul.  Right now the line is at 1.77 and it went as high as 1.85 or so a couple of hours ago.

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43306904-paul-jake-fury-tommy

Is everybody still as confident for a win for Jake Paul as his prior fights?  Beating Anderson Silva got my attention but dunno...  Does Tommy Fury have something on Paul?
Tommy Fury has looked confident and he looks very big compared to Jake even if Jake is the taller fighter. I think every one is surprised by the confidence and the talk about Tommy Fury and he has been saying that Jake Paul is not a professional boxer and has only fought MMA fighters and said he is a professional fighter and has beaten other professional boxers. I guess a lot of people are counting on the experience of Tommy Fury against Jake Paul and a lot of famous boxers are predicting Tommy Fury to win to
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I don’t believe that script nonsense. If it were true I think it would’ve been exposed by someone else a long time ago.

I did put down a parlay bet on Mayweather and Jake Paul both winning their fights. Seemed like an easy bet. We’ll see how it plays out but I’m feeling somewhat confident at the moment. Jake Paul winning and calling out KSI might be in the script, but that’s because it’s seemingly obvious.

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I don’t believe that script nonsense. If it were true I think it would’ve been exposed by someone else a long time ago.

I did put down a parlay bet on Mayweather and Jake Paul both winning their fights. Seemed like an easy bet. We’ll see how it plays out but I’m feeling somewhat confident at the moment. Jake Paul winning and calling out KSI might be in the script, but that’s because it’s seemingly obvious.
Yeah, it's nonsense. People don't seem to understand that knowingly fixing matches that are being bet on would mean everyone involved would be looking at time in prison, hence why the WWE doesn't allow betting, but there we have it, the speculation will continue to circulate about for as long as time. That's not to say match fixing doesn't happen, it has in the past, but not on this large of a stage.

I've seen the script, there's a ton wrong with it including citing organsations which don't even identify themselves as those names, but how on earth do you fake a swollen eye on live television? Anyway, like I said any match fixing is beyond a joke, and shouldn't be entertained at this point.

As for who I've got to win; Tommy Fury. I'm not doing it via any method, just Tommy Fury.
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This might be off topic but I'd still share it since it is somewhat related to the fight. just saw this tweet that looks to be like a script that was posted on Twitter. what's written there is ridiculous that you'd laugh reading it. whoever took that photo is either just trolling, trying to discredit jake paul if he wins, or as one of the comments there mentioned that it could be an attempt to manipulate the betting markets(not sure how).

Nobody is taking that serious. It's not even a good effort. They could have made it so much more believable if they just stuck to things that could be plausible like a fighter looking tired or getting knocked down. No idea how you fake your eye swelling etc.

What's happening with the betting lines?  Just a few hours before the fight, there's a lot of action going into Tommy Fury.  I think it was close to 1.60 just a couple of days ago for Jake Paul.  Right now the line is at 1.77 and it went as high as 1.85 or so a couple of hours ago.

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43306904-paul-jake-fury-tommy

Is everybody still as confident for a win for Jake Paul as his prior fights?  Beating Anderson Silva got my attention but dunno...  Does Tommy Fury have something on Paul?

I'm not sure why Jake was the favourite. I would have put them at even odds. Tommy is in great shape and has the arms of an ape so I don't know whether that has swayed the bookies  Cheesy.

What's happening with the betting lines?  Just a few hours before the fight, there's a lot of action going into Tommy Fury.  I think it was close to 1.60 just a couple of days ago for Jake Paul.  Right now the line is at 1.77 and it went as high as 1.85 or so a couple of hours ago.

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43306904-paul-jake-fury-tommy

Is everybody still as confident for a win for Jake Paul as his prior fights?  Beating Anderson Silva got my attention but dunno...  Does Tommy Fury have something on Paul?
Tommy Fury has looked confident and he looks very big compared to Jake even if Jake is the taller fighter. I think every one is surprised by the confidence and the talk about Tommy Fury and he has been saying that Jake Paul is not a professional boxer and has only fought MMA fighters and said he is a professional fighter and has beaten other professional boxers. I guess a lot of people are counting on the experience of Tommy Fury against Jake Paul and a lot of famous boxers are predicting Tommy Fury to win to

He does look very confident as well as calm and collected. I thought the pressure of it all might start to get to him a bit. I guess it still could as there's a while to go before he's in the ring.

I don’t believe that script nonsense. If it were true I think it would’ve been exposed by someone else a long time ago.

I did put down a parlay bet on Mayweather and Jake Paul both winning their fights. Seemed like an easy bet. We’ll see how it plays out but I’m feeling somewhat confident at the moment. Jake Paul winning and calling out KSI might be in the script, but that’s because it’s seemingly obvious.

How did you put a bet on Mayweather when it was an exhibition with no winner announced?

As for who I've got to win; Tommy Fury. I'm not doing it via any method, just Tommy Fury.

I've still no idea what to expect. I just want to see a good fight and hope Jake can at least match Tommy in skill. A good fight with a late knock out would be ideal. Weren't you originally backing Jake? What made you change your mind?

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February 26, 2023, 09:59:36 PM
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The match is between Social Media and Real Boxing. Team Social Media represented by Jake Paul and the team Real Boxing is represented by the brother of Tyson, Tommy Fury. The most hyped match is scheduled for tomorrow, and we don't know whether this is going to be an entertainment or real boxing. Jake Paul who isn't a professional boxer have won all the six bouts and this had made the match against Tommy Fury even more interesting.
Well, it’s good to see a boxing match with a quite bit entertainment lol. But honestly, I am expecting a good fight from these two boxers because both are professional boxers and are both undefeated in their careers. So we’ll see who will be the next undefeated and the most reputable boxer for tonight as the highlight of the game is about to start. Now we’re about to learn it and see it for ourselves.

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February 26, 2023, 10:19:19 PM
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What's happening with the betting lines?  Just a few hours before the fight, there's a lot of action going into Tommy Fury.  I think it was close to 1.60 just a couple of days ago for Jake Paul.  Right now the line is at 1.77 and it went as high as 1.85 or so a couple of hours ago.

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43306904-paul-jake-fury-tommy

Is everybody still as confident for a win for Jake Paul as his prior fights?  Beating Anderson Silva got my attention but dunno...  Does Tommy Fury have something on Paul?

Looking at the physique during their weigh in, it looks like Tommy Fury had an edge since Jake Paul body physique doesn't look like fit to fight at all comparing to the built of Tommy Fury, but then who knows, I am sure Jake Paul is hiding that knock out punchers on the not so ripped physique.

Anyway I am looking for the result of the fight and yet none is available, it looks like the fight is still going on.  I am not spending any dime to watch the fight, I'll just rely on the news though since there is nothing special on the fight. really.
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