Account seller and possible alt for scam attempt

[GxSTxV]

Well to begin with i saw a topic of someone trying to sell accounts on services section here archive.ph since the OP deleted everything i managed to archive it minutes before.
Here is his account profile as well UI256565
I contacted him via Telegram as a customer trying to buy an account.
This is some screenshots of our conversation while trying to convince him that I’m serious hehe
Telegram username is @SilverLime1357824



I didn’t want him to suspect me as I’m trying to expose him so i let him offer me the link of that Full Member account he trying to sell, he started a secret chat so i can’t take screenshots so i had to take a picture from my phone.
The Full Member account : UI1068566




In Addition to that i found his other alt account with the same USDT address he was trying to get a loan from @shasan topic
Here is the screenshot of the address and here is the [post] where he asked for a loan

The USDT address: TNW4x3wjyT9Ye1Q7HbQtYFzMRPDjPHcAhh

If you think there’s enough evidence it’s up to you for tagging these three accounts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=256565
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1171692
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1068566

[MuffinMaster]

I didn’t want him to suspect me as I’m trying to expose him so i let him offer me the link of that Full Member account he trying to sell, he started a secret chat so i can’t take screenshots so i had to take a picture from my phone.
The Full Member account : UI1068566

Unfortunately, in this case, the problem may be that he may not be the owner of this account at all. It's possible that he just wanted to scam you and disappear right after you sent the money.

It would be best to ask him to send a private message to confirm that he is the owner.

[GxSTxV]

I didn’t want him to suspect me as I’m trying to expose him so i let him offer me the link of that Full Member account he trying to sell, he started a secret chat so i can’t take screenshots so i had to take a picture from my phone.
The Full Member account : UI1068566

Unfortunately, in this case, the problem may be that he may not be the owner of this account at all. It's possible that he just wanted to scam you and disappear right after you sent the money.

It would be best to ask him to send a private message to confirm that he is the owner.

Yes unfortunately my story wouldn’t match if i asked him to pm on my account which is higher rank than his, but what we can notice is the registration date of the three accounts on 2017 which wasn’t a coincidence in my opinion
He is obviously farming accounts

[MuffinMaster]

Yes unfortunately my story wouldn’t match if i asked him to pm on my account which is higher rank than his, but what we can notice is the registration date of the three accounts on 2017 which wasn’t a coincidence in my opinion
He is obviously farming accounts

I don't quite understand what you are talking about, because all three accounts you mention have completely different dates of creation

If you think there’s enough evidence it’s up to you for tagging these three accounts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=256565

Date Registered:   February 23, 2014, 04:14:24 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1171692

Date Registered:   September 27, 2017, 01:24:45 AM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1068566

Date Registered:   July 15, 2017, 01:38:18 PM

I think something more solid is needed to give these accounts negative trust..

[Kavelj22]

Since you have found a connection between two accounts with the help of the address you see posted, you can continue searching for more evidence including hearing the opinion of the second account holder. There is hypothesis that he does not have the address on which he wanted to receive the loan and that address belongs to someone from whom he will buy the credit. Of course, this is an extreme hypothesis, but it is an existing possibility that cannot be denied.

As for the account he claimed to own and wanted to sell, there is no way to prove his ownership of it. The account is still active, although the last post dates back to May 2022.

[Little Mouse]

Yes unfortunately my story wouldn’t match if i asked him to pm on my account which is higher rank than his, but what we can notice is the registration date of the three accounts on 2017 which wasn’t a coincidence in my opinion
He is obviously farming accounts

In 2017, there are more than 600k users have registered (source. Are all of them or most of them owned by him, according to your logic? This is a very weak proof to call someone an alt.
Though you have provided screenshot, you should know that screenshots are barely a good proof.
Beside, posting address doesn't automatically make someone your alt. If I post your address accidentally, will I be your alt aaccount?

[GxSTxV]

I think something more solid is needed to give these accounts negative trust..

Yes i agree with that, i couldn’t get him to pm me from the other account he trying to sell me but i think it’s enough now to know if that Full member account has changed hands since the last post from that account was made on: May 14, 2022

hearing the opinion of the second account holder. There is hypothesis that he does not have the address on which he wanted to receive the loan and that address belongs to someone from whom he will buy the credit.

Well than we can ask for clarifications about the USDT address both are using, @Debra M please can you explain that to us in this case Xd

In 2017, there are more than 600k users have registered (source. Are all of them or most of them owned by him, according to your logic? This is a very weak proof to call someone an alt.
Though you have provided screenshot, you should know that screenshots are barely a good proof.
Beside, posting address doesn't automatically make someone your alt. If I post your address accidentally, will I be your alt aaccount?

Lol, of course that’s not my logic all i meant is two of these involved accounts  somehow registered at the same year and i will continue investigating on this matter maybe i will find something more suspicious and certain to show the connection between all of them.
He didn’t post that address by accident i mean come on that address is used one time only on Bitcointalk by @Debra M trying to get a loan where did he find that address? And then by @vkter who wanted me to send him USDT in exchange for that account.
I understand there isn’t a strong evidence to prove the connection of these three accounts, but at least now they are in a suspicious situation where they can’t fool anyone

[Little Mouse]

He didn’t post that address by accident i mean come on that address is used one time only on Bitcointalk by @Debra M trying to get a loan where did he find that address? And then by @vkter who wanted me to send him USDT in exchange for that account.

You didn't get my point I think.
By accident doesn't necessarily has to be by accident, it can be a targeted malicious intention to defame the actual owner too.
Imagine, I have applied in a campaign with this address- TM8xDV3TTKhbeQGKAMmr39Uq7C41rLghfT
Does this make me your alt? Of course not. Whoever has posted the later, can be a mistakenly post, can be an attempt to defame someone etc. I was pointing that only.

Spending time behind account trader would bring you almost nothing. They have a huge amount of accounts which they have farmed since long time or bought database from hack bitcointalk faced back in 2015 (isn't it?). So, this will harm them nothing almost because they have a lot of accounts + they use mostly the neg tagged one for conducting their business here.

[Awaklara]

hearing the opinion of the second account holder. There is hypothesis that he does not have the address on which he wanted to receive the loan and that address belongs to someone from whom he will buy the credit.

Well than we can ask for clarifications about the USDT address both are using, @Debra M please can you explain that to us in this case Xd

I don't think it's necessary, to see the account has been on the forum for quite a while. I doubt he borrowed someone else's address. although there is such a possibility the story might be too far-fetched.
I'm assuming they're all the same person. when you have sent a PM to the account in question, maybe you will only waste time. hopefully, he will appear here and share an interesting story.

[YOSHIE]

I understand there isn’t a strong evidence to prove the connection of these three accounts, but at least now they are in a suspicious situation where they can’t fool anyone

If I look at some of @Debra M's posts, he is very enthusiastic about promoting the project (World Blockchain and Token Summit), if you look at the E-mail that @Debra M uses in the project it is also used by the two accounts below, Full rating.

1. polarstar00
2. NokasKili

Proof:

If you are interested in becoming a sponsor for this event, contact me and I can provide you with details on the sponsorship packages we offer.

Debra McCann
Email: debra@dmccann.com
Office:  707-433-5860
Cell:   707-206-5953

https://archive.vn/wip/5SUkl

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Debra McCann
Email: debra@dmccann.com
Office:  707-433-5860
Cell:   707-206-5953

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Debra McCann
E-mail: debra@dmccann.com
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Cell: 707-206-5953

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My guess is, they are more towards the team or it could be the Alt account, that can be seen from the E-mail they use, still the evidence above is not a basic benchmark for evidence, but seeing only the three of them who are enthusiastic about promoting the project.

[348Judah]

I still don't unde why people can't just adhere to simple instructions against account farming, thise i pity most were their patronages because they can't get away with it by any means, it will still be revealed whom they were, an account you're buying without having the knowledge of how to handle, with other's emails and password, bad reputation from the past and all manners of risk associated they might have performed with such account before selling, the buyer must also have been a nonnentity to have gone weird seeking for such a shortcut that will end up cutting down both of them from the forum and everything resulting to wasted efforts.

[UserU]

I still don't unde why people can't just adhere to simple instructions against account farming, thise i pity most were their patronages because they can't get away with it by any means, it will still be revealed whom they were, an account you're buying without having the knowledge of how to handle, with other's emails and password, bad reputation from the past and all manners of risk associated they might have performed with such account before selling, the buyer must also have been a nonnentity to have gone weird seeking for such a shortcut that will end up cutting down both of them from the forum and everything resulting to wasted efforts.

Some people would rather "work smart" than work hard.

But yeah, chances are that the seller is likely to discover this thread sooner or later.

[Kavelj22]

hearing the opinion of the second account holder. There is hypothesis that he does not have the address on which he wanted to receive the loan and that address belongs to someone from whom he will buy the credit.

Well than we can ask for clarifications about the USDT address both are using, @Debra M please can you explain that to us in this case Xd

I don't think it's necessary, to see the account has been on the forum for quite a while. I doubt he borrowed someone else's address. although there is such a possibility the story might be too far-fetched.
I'm assuming they're all the same person. when you have sent a PM to the account in question, maybe you will only waste time. hopefully, he will appear here and share an interesting story.

According to my knowledge of similar cases in the forum, it is not possible to condemn a profile because it shares the title with another profile. This is an indication that the two accounts may be connected, but more evidence is required to prove the connection.

The most that can be done is to put a neutral feedback on the profile, mentioning the suspicion that it owns an account that sells forum accounts. But not a negative one. This is just my estimate and I may be wrong.