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January 19, 2023, 10:27:58 AM
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I am just trying to know from forum members if there is anyone who has ever had their bitcoin payments from signature advertising get blocked by an exchange, citing "suspicious transaction"?

What was/would be your course of action if they asked for source of funds or proof of source of funds, especially if you were dealing with payments from a bitcoin casino or bitcoin mixing platform (since most CEXs seems to be no so friendly with bitcoins from such platforms) ?

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January 19, 2023, 10:43:45 AM
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Never did. Although, i always use my non-custodial wallet to send to the exchange not directly from any platform (e.g. gambling) to the exchange, for prevention purposes.

What i actually think the reason why you ask this is because you are in a mixer campaign, well, same as mine.   Tongue

We will see then when i receive the payment from the campaign since it will be directly from coinomize to my non-custodial wallet then to exchange later on.

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January 19, 2023, 10:56:12 AM
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This actually happened to me a few years back with Bitonic (BTC to fiat) and I think I talked about it here before, but I can't remember with which campaign I was at the time.

This was their email after I mentioned that the funds were coming from a signature campaign:

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Thank you for your message. We would like to receive the Google spreadshoots (and the address) you're talking about. I think that would be sufficient to process your suspended and future transactions.

IIRC, this happened back when KYC was not required (for selling only) so, I don't think this had anything to do with the transaction being suspicious. It was probably a procedure they had to follow with all of their customers.

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January 19, 2023, 10:58:13 AM
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Just use noncustodial wallet to receive coins of a signature campaign. But I have people that have no issue till today and they use exchange address directly. Even as there is no issue, I will advice you to use noncustodial wallet for it.

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January 19, 2023, 11:25:57 AM
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Never experience it myself, even though I participated in various campaigns in the past (most of them were mixers). I never mix my coins and just sent them directly to my preferred exchange, but things might change depending on their policies. If they ask for personal details more than necessary, I might use a DEX or do P2P if I need to convert my earnings to fiat.

Things might change if my government or the government where the exchange is legalized requires an exchange to block mixer transactions though, they might look for popular addresses and then block any tx related to that address. Either way, I think you can still mix or use coinjoin or just use other exchanges. CMIIW.


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January 19, 2023, 11:50:01 AM
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Never happened to me, although when i use CEX i prefer local exchange which might be less strict compared with international ones.

Some people may abuse this system by creating multiple accounts and posting spam in order to earn more Bitcoin, which can negatively affect the reputation of the project or service being advertised. As a result, exchanges may block transactions from these earnings as a precautionary measure to prevent potential fraud or scams.

Is there any documented case about this? I have doubt any exchange care the funds comes from service which spam this forum.

3. Technical issues: Transactions may be blocked if the exchange is experiencing technical difficulties or if there is a problem with the transaction itself.

There shouldn't be any problem the transaction itself since in general Bitcoin transaction is either,
1. Invalid transaction, which cannot be broadcasted to node/miner.
2. Valid transaction, with specific amount of confirmation.

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January 19, 2023, 12:43:40 PM
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I can't remember if this has happened or not to me. But I've read before that exchanges are strict if the funds where directly sent from a casino/mixer to their (exchange) address.
So, I think this varies from the exchange where someone sends his signature earnings if he's a participant of a casino signature campaign like directly from that casino account to the exchange. If it's on their T&C then that's already the rule. I don't know how they track but it's possible that they've got the sending address put into blacklist and recorded if ever they've made a test.

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I have sent money from the ChipMixer’s campaign directly from my original address to Binance, Kraken, FTX (before it went puff), and several brazillian exchanges all the time. I’ve NEVER had issues. Never was questioned, had a deposit delayed, emails asking where the money came from, etc…

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January 19, 2023, 03:42:06 PM
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As far as I recall, I used the exchange deposit address for every bitcoin I got from this forum and never had a problem though. I also haven't KYC yet.

Exchanges may block transactions from signature earnings on Bitcointalk because they are often associated with spam and manipulation. Many individuals participate in signature campaigns on the forum in order to earn small amounts of Bitcoin by posting on the forum with an advertisement for a specific project or service in their signature. Some people may abuse this system by creating multiple accounts and posting spam in order to earn more Bitcoin, which can negatively affect the reputation of the project or service being advertised.
I just realized that there is an exchange taking action against cheating behavior on bitcointalk. Btw, who usually reports it, and in what way?

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January 19, 2023, 03:53:23 PM
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As far as I recall, I used the exchange deposit address for every bitcoin I got from this forum and never had a problem though. I also haven't KYC yet.

Exchanges may block transactions from signature earnings on Bitcointalk because they are often associated with spam and manipulation. Many individuals participate in signature campaigns on the forum in order to earn small amounts of Bitcoin by posting on the forum with an advertisement for a specific project or service in their signature. Some people may abuse this system by creating multiple accounts and posting spam in order to earn more Bitcoin, which can negatively affect the reputation of the project or service being advertised.
I just realized that there is an exchange taking action against cheating behavior on bitcointalk. Btw, who usually reports it, and in what way?

The Theory they see is that the coins get out from the mixer going to the exchange which the exchange blocks it. If what they are saying is true, I think the possibility that your coins coming from DEX might also get blocked one day.

What exchanges might require soon is that coins going into them must have come from a regulated platform or wallet. Whether it comes from a casino or mixer campaign, they might just ask casinos KYC all even those with a small amount of BTC in thier account.


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January 19, 2023, 03:58:42 PM
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I am just trying to know from forum members if there is anyone who has ever had their bitcoin payments from signature advertising get blocked by an exchange, citing "suspicious transaction"?

What was/would be your course of action if they asked for source of funds or proof of source of funds, especially if you were dealing with payments from a bitcoin casino or bitcoin mixing platform (since most CEXs seems to be no so friendly with bitcoins from such platforms) ?

In our local board. A local exchange in my country coins.ph blocked a deposit that came from casino. It’s not directly from campaign payment but he send the funds from his wallet to casino then send the balance from casino to exchange wallet which caused the problem since our local exchange refunded the balance to the sender wallet which is the hot wallet of the casino.

I know that this is somehow related to your concern since you are assuming that funds from campaign is came from casino. I believed some exchange doesn’t allowed deposit came from casino balance since some of their address is sanctioned by exchange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5423879.0

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January 19, 2023, 04:33:29 PM
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In our local board. A local exchange in my country coins.ph blocked a deposit that came from casino. It’s not directly from campaign payment but he send the funds from his wallet to casino then send the balance from casino to exchange wallet which caused the problem since our local exchange refunded the balance to the sender wallet which is the hot wallet of the casino.

I know that this is somehow related to your concern since you are assuming that funds from campaign is came from casino. I believed some exchange doesn’t allowed deposit came from casino balance since some of their address is sanctioned by exchange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5423879.0
The linked thread is not related to casino to exchange transaction but it was from yobit to coins.ph transaction which was a russian based exchange and the wallet is considered as sanctioned wallet address although coins.ph also prohibits such transaction (casino to coins).
I replied on how coins.ph can refund his coins including the required details and where to send the details, but looks like it was ignored by OP for some reason.

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January 19, 2023, 06:40:10 PM
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Is there any documented case about this? I have doubt any exchange care the funds comes from service which spam this forum.



No there is nothing.

What the guy is saying is pure fantasy full of shit

Beside blockhain forensic tools, imagine if CEXs have to scroll the web to monitor spams... what is their definition of "spam", after how many messages it is consedered as such. Who they're to decide on a manipulation? That's not their job..

The guy is definitely a troll. I fell out of my chair

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January 19, 2023, 06:59:22 PM
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I haven't faced any such problem so far. Currently I am using Kucoin for getting payment , And I have not completed kyc verification either.  I think if you choose good exchangers I don't think any such problem is likely.
But I would suggest that it is better not to keep large funds in centralized exchangers.  And if you don't want to face such problem it is better to do KYC verification, moreover I don't think they will block your account for small money transaction of signature campaign in good exchangers.

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I am just trying to know from forum members if there is anyone who has ever had their bitcoin payments from signature advertising get blocked by an exchange, citing "suspicious transaction"?
This never happened to me, but I almost never use centralized exchanges, or when I use them I only use those that work without KYC verification.
Bisq is most popular decentralized p2p exchange that will never ask you anything and it can freeze your coins, but there are many other non-kyc instant exchanges you can use.
I know about people who had some issues because transaction history of their coins had some connection with gambling, but there are always things you can do with coins using address management to avoid this issues.

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The question is why are you being banned? For example, if you work in an organization and it is discovered that it is illegal, the money that was paid to you for your work will not be confiscated. If you work in a bank and it is discovered that it is laundering money, your money will not be confiscated, and therefore, unless the money that comes from the campaign signatures directly from the withdrawal address for those sites (lending, gambling, or mixing), it will not be blocked.

As far as I know, there is no signature campaign that requires the user to create an account on the service site and withdraw through them.
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I am just trying to know from forum members if there is anyone who has ever had their bitcoin payments from signature advertising get blocked by an exchange, citing "suspicious transaction"?

I have been in a few signature campaigns already and never had any problems. No matter whether the campaigns were mixers or casinos.

Nevertheless, you should know that some exchanges - regardless of whether the coins are from signature campaigns - request a proof of funds for higher amounts. In particular, the European exchanges Bitpanda (demand even for very small amounts not bought on Bitpanda) and Bitstamp (for higher amounts ~10k+) could be mentioned here.

We have already had a few threads in the German-speaking board about users whose funds were blocked on these exchanges (especially Bitpanda) - if you can't prove where the coins came from afterwards, it often gets pretty complicated. Most of the time you get the coins back somehow (after plenty of emails), but the account is usually closed.

Just use DEXs and local Bitcoin trades to avoid any problems.

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January 19, 2023, 10:50:38 PM
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I am just trying to know from forum members if there is anyone who has ever had their bitcoin payments from signature advertising get blocked by an exchange, citing "suspicious transaction"?

What was/would be your course of action if they asked for source of funds or proof of source of funds, especially if you were dealing with payments from a bitcoin casino or bitcoin mixing platform (since most CEXs seems to be no so friendly with bitcoins from such platforms) ?

I'm aware of this because our local exchange clearly stated that they will block transactions directly coming from gambling platforms, so I have to send it to my non-custodial wallet before sending it to our local exchange, so far I have not encountered issues, its better to check the terms or ask support if they will block transactions coming from gambling platform, they will even confiscate the funds if you violate their rules, so awareness is the key for smooth transaction of funds coming from gambling platform.
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January 19, 2023, 11:22:14 PM
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For example, if you work in an organization and it is discovered that it is illegal, the money that was paid to you for your work will not be confiscated.

It depends a bit on where you live and what type of illegal activity we're talking about and the sums involved!!
Under the civil forfeiture law or which has led to a lot of weird shit and abuse as long as there is any kind of suspicion your money has been earned through an illegal activity they can seize it. So if you're unlucky, you will have to provide beyond a doubt that you have provided service without knowledge of the activities of the said company and you haven't been involved in anything illegal yourself, which might prove difficult in this context!

But not the case with some signature campaigns on the forum!

I just realized that there is an exchange taking action against cheating behavior on bitcointalk. Btw, who usually reports it, and in what way?

There is no such thing, the guy woke up on the wrong side of the bed or posted after ten beers too many.
Probably copy pasted that from somewhere since I see in the modlog his reply was deleted.


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January 19, 2023, 11:31:48 PM
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I am just trying to know from forum members if there is anyone who has ever had their bitcoin payments from signature advertising get blocked by an exchange, citing "suspicious transaction"?

My Signature earnings go straight to my noncustodial and just transfer it to my exchange when I need money or there is a need to trade because of the market condition, some exchange has a term about casino transaction you should be aware of it and check what exchange will allow you to do this and exchanges will not.

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What was/would be your course of action if they asked for source of funds or proof of source of funds, especially if you were dealing with payments from a bitcoin casino or bitcoin mixing platform (since most CEXs seems to be no so friendly with bitcoins from such platforms)

Please check their terms if they do not allow casino then your funds are good as gone if you deposit or they will allow you to withdraw or trade by asking for understanding for not knowing the rule, it's better to always check the terms when dealing with an exchange like you do when playing in casinos.

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