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January 20, 2023, 11:48:52 AM
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I don't think that they'll ever track you with that. Most casinos don't share their information from the other casinos because it's a rival thing that's rare and hard to see happen.

But if it's the same casino that you're thinking of doing that then I guess that's where the problem will appear. As for the situation you've said, you're going to do it with different casino, I see it no problem.

It's like you're registering for Facebook and next is Google and so on, so I don't see any reason why they'll have time to track you with such unless as they've said, you've been winning big against them.

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January 20, 2023, 12:41:55 PM
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Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

That's not a good idea as your IP might still be traced, which will result in you making a violation gambling with different accounts in one platform. The best thing to do is just to gamble on different gambling sites, that way you'll be safe and you can sleep well at night.

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January 20, 2023, 12:47:52 PM
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They can tracked those created accounts with the use of the IP address and the Device IP address so its easily to them to know if there's someone might abuse the current system of the gambling casino that's why they asking for the KYC for preventing this kind of abuse of the current events, promos and etc. You don't need to worry if in your IP address has a different account with different users but for sure some of you don't want to make a KYC to prevent leaking of information still it depends on the situation if the casino allowing the use of multiple accounts.

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January 21, 2023, 05:38:55 PM
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it's definitely possible to circumvent account limitations by using different emails on different casinos, but it's not a foolproof solution. Some online casinos might also track users by IP address or other identifying information, so it's not a guarantee that you'll be able to continue gambling without any restrictions. Try to find and use other casinos.

Faking IP or using Tor can be a good alternative way but it can limit the speed and the experience while playing the casinos. VPN was my choice when my country prohibit many gambling websites but the connection speed was totally terrible. I guess it might be because I use free VPN services so that the server was always overload

That's why we should choose on-KYC or blockchain casinos because they offer full anonymity and allow us to fully enjoy the experience without any limitations. In the next few years we will see more and more blockchain-based casinos where people can join or leave without providing any additional information
Online platform operators knows that email address can be replaced easily and there are tons of disposable email service that we can use without creating Gmail and Yahoo mails. Even if we use them our success rate of playing on the same betting site can be slim if it was against their rules. Like you said, they still can see our IP address.

We can use a VPN to change our IP address but then they have other indicators to know if the user has already signed up before on their platform. To avoid problems or bad karma, it would be better if we can just play fairly. if we are restricted on one betting site then why not find another? There are plenty of fishes in the sea.

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January 21, 2023, 06:38:40 PM
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Personally, I think the casino security system is much more complicated. Users are constantly improving their privacy skills, which means casinos have to constantly improve their security systems. Checking registration by mail among other casinos is not any kind of protection. It seems to me that the security system can get not only your IP address but also information about the device you are logging in with and a browser's fingerprint. In that case even if you use different e-mails when registering and fake KYC documents you will be found out quickly.
This is my belief as well, identifying someone with their email can be effective but it is such a simple thing to do for anyone to change their email that it is nowhere near as effective as it may have been many years ago, it seems to me that websites can identify you by how personalized your internet browser is, then if you are using five different addons I would say is unlikely many gamblers are using those same addons and you can be identified this way.

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January 21, 2023, 06:56:35 PM
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Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

They can use a different email and KYC so there's no point in tracking this way usually the provider can identify them by checking the gambling activity
I mean they will play using the same pattern so that the security team can catch them, have you ever heard of their accounts being frozen and being investigated? well that's when the security team checked it and decide whether they play fair or not.

I also doubt that they will be able to track the person by the game pattern, as I believe that this would bring several false-positive results that would end up making the process very slow and unduly affect the experience of several users who have nothing to do with the problem, resulting in a bad reputation for the systems and consequently a decrease in their popularity.
I believe that an email standard can be used, but in fact this is an obstacle that can be easily circumvented.
The only solution would be KYC verification itself, where only identity theft could circumvent such a restriction.

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February 01, 2023, 07:44:33 PM
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I also doubt that they will be able to track the person by the game pattern, as I believe that this would bring several false-positive results that would end up making the process very slow and unduly affect the experience of several users who have nothing to do with the problem, resulting in a bad reputation for the systems and consequently a decrease in their popularity.
I believe that an email standard can be used, but in fact this is an obstacle that can be easily circumvented.
The only solution would be KYC verification itself, where only identity theft could circumvent such a restriction.
It is possible but the gambler will need to have a very specific pattern like going only after a particular kind of bet and doing so in markets which are not very popular, and while it may not seem as if a lot of profitable sport bettors will fall into this, this is in fact very common, as profitable sport traders try to find the best possible odds they can find and in many cases due to the low interest they generate the best opportunities occur on the sports and leagues which are not that popular.

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February 01, 2023, 10:03:36 PM
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Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

What you've probably also seen or should have, is how often this type of abuse gets caught. Why should anyone here encourage you to commit fraud against these casinos? If you have to ask this sort of question then I can guarantee that your accounts are going to get frozen and you will lose any deposited funds, then undoubtedly come here to complain when they catch you breaking the terms of service. If you don't agree with the terms of service of a site, then don't use it - simple. They use many more methods than just an email address to determine if you are trying to cheat them and that's all you are - a form of cheater which is never a good thing. Learn to play fair or you will waste your time in the long run.

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February 04, 2023, 02:01:25 AM
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Learn to play fair or you will waste your time in the long run.
Or switch to betting exchanges, since they're the only place that doesn't limit winning players.

We can use a VPN to change our IP address but then they have other indicators to know if the user has already signed up before on their platform. To avoid problems or bad karma, it would be better if we can just play fairly. if we are restricted on one betting site then why not find another? There are plenty of fishes in the sea.
I agree, it's fine to use VPN on certain casinos but making another account on the same site would only put your first account at risk. If limits become an issue for the sports bettor then the best solution is to have one account on several sportsbooks and betting exchanges.

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February 04, 2023, 05:58:40 AM
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The best way is to monitor gaming providers, because they're a different section but exist in all casinos, and that makes it look like all Casinos communicate with each other to detect players. I think if a gaming provider flags a player for being underage or fraudulent disputes they can easily track that person on other casinos using their detective systems. And this time the player may be unlucky and the account will get restricted after they've won some money. They could be a way other than changing IP, proxies, or even Kyc how these people determine a suspicious player. So, the way out is to change games and try focusing on games that has different providers. That way the user can be difficult to trace.

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Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

It is very possible unless casino shares their data with one another.  Actually, if you think that they track user's via email across multiple casino platforms, I do not think that it is the only means, they can also track your:

1. IP address (this can be prevented by using VPN)
2. Mac address (which can be prevented by using spoofing software)

So no matter how you change different emails with different casinos if the bookmakers have the above list to track every account that bet on their platform then they can definitely trace you unless you do some extra precautions.

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February 04, 2023, 08:24:43 AM
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Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

It is very possible unless casino shares their data with one another.  Actually, if you think that they track user's via email across multiple casino platforms, I do not think that it is the only means, they can also track your:

1. IP address (this can be prevented by using VPN)
2. Mac address (which can be prevented by using spoofing software)

So no matter how you change different emails with different casinos if the bookmakers have the above list to track every account that bet on their platform then they can definitely trace you unless you do some extra precautions.


Those are good hiding techniques but that come with a high risk of getting your account locked for a certain time until you verify yourself or even banning completely your account as the use of VPN-s is strongly discouraged in many casinos and some of them made it clear in their terms of service that when they see such activity they have the right to lock your account and even freeze it completely no matter you having funds there.

Having said that I think the only tracking they do is through gambling activity and if they see that you are a winner,I mean in FIAT casinos as I have not seen this yet in crypto ones,they limit your account or the odds,or the maximum bet you can make.In crypto as I said this has been not happening to me even when I have won a lot of bets consecutively something that when I did in bet365 I immediately got some kind of limitations.

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February 04, 2023, 08:28:27 AM
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Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.
Casinos are limiting users if you are consistently winning because they love losers and hate winners, that's the saying which seem to be true.
Well, about your presumption that they are tracking our accounts across multiple casinos, I don't think they can do that, unless that casino are their affiliate or their sister company, which I doubt they'll even put an effort in doing that.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Of course since it's not prohibited to make plenty of emails for whatever purpose it will serve.
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Those are good hiding techniques but that come with a high risk of getting your account locked for a certain time until you verify yourself or even banning completely your account as the use of VPN-s is strongly discouraged in many casinos and some of them made it clear in their terms of service that when they see such activity they have the right to lock your account and even freeze it completely no matter you having funds there.

We definitely, have to check the terms and conditions of the casino but not all casino ban or are hostile to VPN usage, so better find casinos that are VPN friendly as long as we are not circumventing regional bans or prohibitions.

Having said that I think the only tracking they do is through gambling activity and if they see that you are a winner,I mean in FIAT casinos as I have not seen this yet in crypto ones,they limit your account or the odds,or the maximum bet you can make.In crypto as I said this has been not happening to me even when I have won a lot of bets consecutively something that when I did in bet365 I immediately got some kind of limitations.

I think so too, providers always check the activity of the player or bettor, they often check for players that are well-versed on the game betting and often limit them to reduce damaged done by the player.  That may be unfair but well, but bookmakers need to protect their business.

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February 04, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
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I don't know if casinos track user accounts at some casinos but what for? Casinos don't need to bother doing that because they have rules, so they can apply them to members who try to break the rules. They can also ask users to do KYC later if they think it is necessary to do it for some or even all of their members.

Besides that, if any user wants to try to get something from more than one or several casinos and it violates the rules of each casino, he may get an immediate ban on his account.
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Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Well, odd providers are on different casinos too and maybe they got the tools to identify fraud between accounts but we never know. The only thing is likely possible they came up with this maybe by IPand gambling patterns. I think gambling fraudster would try to hide as much as possible and having lot of email addresses isn't that hard these days if they really want to avoid being caught.
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Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
Honestly I don't know how they do it but I read they are doing with the help of multiple bookmakers and analyzing the betting pattern but via online its close to impossible to identify whether the same person is betting on multiple site for the same game. Recently someone also accused by a casinos for doing such activity so the funds were help and nothing rewarded but they won't disclose it to public how they do it.









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February 04, 2023, 09:56:25 AM
Last edit: February 04, 2023, 10:09:07 AM by Betwrong
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The best way is to monitor gaming providers, because they're a different section but exist in all casinos, and that makes it look like all Casinos communicate with each other to detect players. I think if a gaming provider flags a player for being underage or fraudulent disputes they can easily track that person on other casinos using their detective systems. And this time the player may be unlucky and the account will get restricted after they've won some money. They could be a way other than changing IP, proxies, or even Kyc how these people determine a suspicious player. So, the way out is to change games and try focusing on games that has different providers. That way the user can be difficult to trace.

Keep in mind that there's another reason for someone being limited, and it's his/her gambling addiction. In some jurisdictions gambling providers are obliged to limit someone's stakes just because they are too big, or there are too many of them to consider them affordable for the gambler. So, providers put a limit on the stakes of such person, and then this person goes around forums saying he was limited because he was so good at betting and that casinos fear him.

I personally think that this is the main reason why someone is limited, but I have no proof of that, so, let's just keep in mind that there are such cases.

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February 04, 2023, 10:13:35 AM
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The best way is to monitor gaming providers, because they're a different section but exist in all casinos, and that makes it look like all Casinos communicate with each other to detect players. I think if a gaming provider flags a player for being underage or fraudulent disputes they can easily track that person on other casinos using their detective systems. And this time the player may be unlucky and the account will get restricted after they've won some money. They could be a way other than changing IP, proxies, or even Kyc how these people determine a suspicious player. So, the way out is to change games and try focusing on games that has different providers. That way the user can be difficult to trace.
I think there is one common user base that is shared among themselves to identify suspicious players.I have a friend who works in this direction and he says that all the data for each player is fixed, mail / IP / password change and addresses where money is withdrawn.All this works in semi-automatic mode and suspicious accounts are checked manually several times a month.Most often, suspicious accounts are simply blocked during the election.

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My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?
I think of course it will not be possible for other casinos to know email and other information from users, moreover every casino is certainly competing and it is also impossible for them to share their user data, especially when it comes to user information data, I prefer to use the same email to play

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