Rejecting odd provider's limit

[Sanitough]

That's is crystal clear and the only thing they can do is to reduce the limit but they can not manipulate them.
This is my first time of hearing about this but I don't think there power would exceed just limiting your account to a particular odds.
I know.of gamblers that doesn't care about the odd because they like taking a big risks of making bets with high odds that can be very annoying to me. Just like we have some gamblers that do not gamble with big money but rather with small money going to high odds.
Sometimes they feel like winning big amount of money when you check there game for the odds and amout to be won.

Yeah , maybe they only limit people with their withdrawal amount only but in terms of deposit and amounts of bets, I wonder if they will limit that. Casinos would love if a person is loyal to them and spend so much, as per the OP's idea having a different email is not a good option because they can block the physical address instead of the gambler if they will put an extra effort to it.

That's unethical to limit the withdrawal amount, that's your money so you have the right to withdraw your funds including your winnings of course. The only limitation they'll make is your bet, that way if you keep winning, they can still continue running their business because you are not winning majority of their bankroll. Additionally, if you really can't lose, then I guess they might ban you, you can't complain as it's their right, their casino their rules, but no way they will steal your money like limiting your withdrawals.

[Jawhead999]

That's unethical to limit the withdrawal amount, that's your money so you have the right to withdraw your funds including your winnings of course. The only limitation they'll make is your bet, that way if you keep winning, they can still continue running their business because you are not winning majority of their bankroll. Additionally, if you really can't lose, then I guess they might ban you, you can't complain as it's their right, their casino their rules, but no way they will steal your money like limiting your withdrawals.

I think I've seen some casinos are have withdrawal limit in their terms of services, usually they have a retention maximum withdrawal for a day, a week, a month and a year. I wouldn't call it scam, but it's mostly because you have a problem or you're a high roller. As long as the casino is trusted enough, all you need is patience and hope they wouldn't disappear. Maybe they have a limited bankroll, that's why they're limit your withdrawal too.

[Betwrong]

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Frankly, I wouldn't recommend you to mess with this. Casinos may use various methods to identify and track users, such as IP address, device ID, and payment information, in addition to email address. So, using different email addresses to register with multiple casinos can get you into trouble (account termination, loss of funds etc).

This is true, trying to curcumwent restricitons is risky. And not only because your account can be frozen, but also because maybe you shouldn't gamble in the first place?

I would contact support, and asked them why was I restricted instead of trying to circumvent the restriction. It is very likely that your knowledge of tracking is inferior to that of their technicians, so, if are not one of those tech savvy guys from Mission Impossible, don't try to beat them on that field.

[Strongkored]

Through limiting their user account, it could also mean limiting their bets and I think this is not new anymore  as casinos also set the maximum prize that they can only refund to their bettors. So if a single user has different accounts and all those are winning one after the other, that could really be a problem on part of the casinos. So casinos have to do their part too by looking the patterns on how they bet, aside from monitoring their email add and locate their IP address. That way, it’s possible that those users who have made various accounts will easily be tracked.

I see that even when a user's account is hit by a limit, players will not only be able to make bets with a small value but there are bookmakers who also give different odds to that player compared to odds for other players who don't get any limits, this is quite new for me but before bookmakers implement this they must have done an investigation of the account first, so all limits are made after getting a clear picture of their users' activities

Different odds? Come on, I don't think that happens in sports betting. Odds are the same for everyone, and a specific gambling site would always provide the same odds to avoid being abused through the arbitrage method. A limit is a limit; they can only limit the amount of bet you can make, but they cannot change the odds to give you a disadvantage. That's an obvious way of cheating, which I doubt is happening.

Surely no one would have thought about it or could even believe it as well as me but it's different when I read complaints from players at one of the bookies you can check directly https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418423.msg61584601#msg61584601
and I even thought that he was wrong but that was explained by the representatives of the gambling site, so I'm not just talking

[Casdinyard]

They can do all the contingencies they want to subvert these odd abusers and account spammers but they will just keep popping up. KYC is a good measure but nowadays it's getting easier and easier to falsify documents and therefore be able to use them for something like gambling. There's also the fact that some use some sort of tracking that read's a player's/gambler's pattern and compares it to an account they suspect of abusing these advantages, but it could only go so far, especially if the tracking system could be overloaded with data, which some could be AFAIK.

In any case, in this battle against odd provider vs the gambler, the gambler will always win, might as well carry on with their day to day as usual instead of picking a needless fight.

[madnessteat]

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If the casinos want to beat this they will just add a video call to the KYC procedure. Yes, it will take much more time as well as casino resources, but this approach can reduce the number of fake accounts in casinos. I don't really think it bothers the casino much because every potential casino player is a potential revenue stream for the casino owner.

[Zackgeno96]

It is common for people to get a limit on their account. Gambling sites also prefer not to do business with people who win a lot of money. That means they have to pay out a lot of money. This often goes hand in hand with the KYC. I always wonder why they give you low limits. Players who win a lot and bet big, don't they automatically lose? That seems to me to be an ideal time for gambling sites not to lower the limits. At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run. But if they keep winning then you have a problem and as a gambling site you can lose a lot of money.

[Solosanz]

At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run.

This theory only work on luck based games e.g. slots, dice, etc where you don't have any way to control your bet since the result is completely random. While in sportsbookie you can bet in any event and any option you like, so if you're a professional bettor you might make a lot money in through gambling. As a casino they wouldn't want this and they will limit your bet to prevent them from future losses.

[Viscore]

It's not uncommon for people to use different email addresses for different purposes, such as personal and work email, or to avoid getting spam in their primary email.

Usually, people like that will not easily give their main email address to anyone.
They are better off providing an email address that has nothing to do with their main email address so that if something happens or spam in the email, their main email address won't be full of spam.
We have to care about ourselves when surfing the internet and if we want to register for a website, don't use the main email address.
But a casino won't look into someone's email address to another casino because the casino would rather investigate what happened to someone's account in their database so they can make their decision.

You have a point here. There should be separate email address when it comes to gambling casinos registration knowing anytime it can be target of investigation especially if there is cheating done. That’s normal, although cheating is never normal for honest gamblers. But good thing, at least your main email address is still safe and is free from any investigation. Btw, i don’t think each casino will have access to the other casino, unless if it’s affiliated with one another.

[South Park]

It's not uncommon for people to use different email addresses for different purposes, such as personal and work email, or to avoid getting spam in their primary email.

Usually, people like that will not easily give their main email address to anyone.
They are better off providing an email address that has nothing to do with their main email address so that if something happens or spam in the email, their main email address won't be full of spam.
We have to care about ourselves when surfing the internet and if we want to register for a website, don't use the main email address.
But a casino won't look into someone's email address to another casino because the casino would rather investigate what happened to someone's account in their database so they can make their decision.

You have a point here. There should be separate email address when it comes to gambling casinos registration knowing anytime it can be target of investigation especially if there is cheating done. That’s normal, although cheating is never normal for honest gamblers. But good thing, at least your main email address is still safe and is free from any investigation. Btw, i don’t think each casino will have access to the other casino, unless if it’s affiliated with one another.

Another good reason to have an email dedicated just for your gambling activities is that at some point gamblers may decide they want to take a break or to stop gambling completely, and if you are using your personal email then you cannot simply stop using it and you will keep receiving offers tempting you to play, and while this is not a problem for those like us which are in complete control of our gambling, it can be very problematic for those which are going through a gambling addiction.

[Betwrong]

At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run.

This theory only work on luck based games e.g. slots, dice, etc where you don't have any way to control your bet since the result is completely random. While in sportsbookie you can bet in any event and any option you like, so if you're a professional bettor you might make a lot money in through gambling. As a casino they wouldn't want this and they will limit your bet to prevent them from future losses.

In the past, when it was hard to prevent various forms of cheating  on the part of gamblers, people that winning "too much" were restricted from this or that casino. Today I don't think it is still a thing. Big online casinos are not afraid of those gamblers, professional poker players or sports bettors, who can win millions. On the contrary, they want to attract such gamblers to their platforms to use the cases of their huge wins for advertising purposes.

[TheGreatPython]

Another good reason to have an email dedicated just for your gambling activities is that at some point gamblers may decide they want to take a break or to stop gambling completely, and if you are using your personal email then you cannot simply stop using it and you will keep receiving offers tempting you to play, and while this is not a problem for those like us which are in complete control of our gambling, it can be very problematic for those which are going through a gambling addiction.

Don't forget that there is a feature called self-exclusion on many gambling sites right now which could help the person to distance themselves in gambling for a while or permanently but in order to be sure that you won't receive any mails from a gambling website, you can uncheck the "stop receiving promotional mails" in your account settings. Most gambling sites that I visited so far have this.

Another one would be to mark the existing email on your mailbox as spam and then hit that mute button as well. All these may only be a temporary remedy because there are still ways for an addicted gambler to play gambling again. Seeking professional help offline will still be the best option IMO.

[famososMuertos]

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I'm going to get to the point, you ask a specific, direct question, and as I read, a month has already passed, you forgot us, no!, so, I ask you:

 Are you interested in cheating?

 The best first bet that can be made in a casino is honesty, looking for dishonest "ways" is not a good "way".

 Or are you just curious...

 Greetings, ah!, you do KYC to your thread. Ty!

[fullhdpixel]

They can do all the contingencies they want to subvert these odd abusers and account spammers but they will just keep popping up. KYC is a good measure but nowadays it's getting easier and easier to falsify documents and therefore be able to use them for something like gambling. There's also the fact that some use some sort of tracking that read's a player's/gambler's pattern and compares it to an account they suspect of abusing these advantages, but it could only go so far, especially if the tracking system could be overloaded with data, which some could be AFAIK.

In any case, in this battle against odd provider vs the gambler, the gambler will always win, might as well carry on with their day to day as usual instead of picking a needless fight.

Abusers can easily be restricted through KYC if casinos that better measures for their KYC application than only asking for documents. If they ask for a selfie with the documents or a short video of the person holding the document, that would definitely limit abuses of multiple account creation.

I'm not sure how they identify the abusers that copy the patterns of other gamblers to increase their odds of winning, but if they really have some tracking system for it, then it shouldn't really be difficult once they implement the changes that I mentioned for KYC of all their gamblers.

[redsun114]

It is common for people to get a limit on their account. Gambling sites also prefer not to do business with people who win a lot of money. That means they have to pay out a lot of money. This often goes hand in hand with the KYC. I always wonder why they give you low limits. Players who win a lot and bet big, don't they automatically lose? That seems to me to be an ideal time for gambling sites not to lower the limits. At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run. But if they keep winning then you have a problem and as a gambling site you can lose a lot of money.

It is not really a common thing for people to get limits on their accounts for only winning something big. Casinos don't go bankrupt just because a few players win since there are thousands more who are losing at the same time, so this thing doesn't really bother them. Unless, the person who is winning is using an unethical way of winning like cheating or using some kind of script or something.

If that's the case, the providers or the platform is in no way wrong for asking for KYC or limiting the accounts and asking for some verification etc. They have all the rights to do so since they are transparent and they expect the same from their players in return.

[AicecreaME]

It is common for people to get a limit on their account. Gambling sites also prefer not to do business with people who win a lot of money. That means they have to pay out a lot of money. This often goes hand in hand with the KYC. I always wonder why they give you low limits. Players who win a lot and bet big, don't they automatically lose? That seems to me to be an ideal time for gambling sites not to lower the limits. At least, if we keep to the theory that players will always lose in the long run. But if they keep winning then you have a problem and as a gambling site you can lose a lot of money.

It is not really a common thing for people to get limits on their accounts for only winning something big. Casinos don't go bankrupt just because a few players win since there are thousands more who are losing at the same time, so this thing doesn't really bother them. Unless, the person who is winning is using an unethical way of winning like cheating or using some kind of script or something.

If that's the case, the providers or the platform is in no way wrong for asking for KYC or limiting the accounts and asking for some verification etc. They have all the rights to do so since they are transparent and they expect the same from their players in return.

Although most of the times, for those people who often win especially huge amounts consecutively, the casinos tend to somehow put a limit and lower the odds of winning of the account over time. I've seen many players rant about this here in forum. Some find it unfair, while some just don't care that much. It's not really always putting a limit such as freezing their accounts, rather lowering the rtp odds of the account itself so that there would be lesser chance of winning on the side of the gambler for a certain period of time since he already maximized the winnings previously.

But I'm not quite sure for how long the casino hold back the odds for an account with frequent winning. Perhaps this differs from their tos and policies, so one must really read before agreeing because everything is already written, some are just too lazy to read which is why when they encounter something unusual, they complain right away.

[South Park]

Another good reason to have an email dedicated just for your gambling activities is that at some point gamblers may decide they want to take a break or to stop gambling completely, and if you are using your personal email then you cannot simply stop using it and you will keep receiving offers tempting you to play, and while this is not a problem for those like us which are in complete control of our gambling, it can be very problematic for those which are going through a gambling addiction.

Don't forget that there is a feature called self-exclusion on many gambling sites right now which could help the person to distance themselves in gambling for a while or permanently but in order to be sure that you won't receive any mails from a gambling website, you can uncheck the "stop receiving promotional mails" in your account settings. Most gambling sites that I visited so far have this.

Another one would be to mark the existing email on your mailbox as spam and then hit that mute button as well. All these may only be a temporary remedy because there are still ways for an addicted gambler to play gambling again. Seeking professional help offline will still be the best option IMO.

Those are good measures that you can take, however this assumes that those systems work as intended and I have seen a lot of complains about this not being the case, some casinos can still send you promotional emails even if you unsubscribe from their list, this could be a mistake or it could be done on purpose but it happens, and self-exclusion is also a hit and miss feature in some casinos, so it is important to always be in complete control of our gambling or overcoming an addiction to it will be very challenging.

[Finestream]

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Frankly, I wouldn't recommend you to mess with this. Casinos may use various methods to identify and track users, such as IP address, device ID, and payment information, in addition to email address. So, using different email addresses to register with multiple casinos can get you into trouble (account termination, loss of funds etc).

This is true, trying to curcumwent restricitons is risky. And not only because your account can be frozen, but also because maybe you shouldn't gamble in the first place?

I would contact support, and asked them why was I restricted instead of trying to circumvent the restriction. It is very likely that your knowledge of tracking is inferior to that of their technicians, so, if are not one of those tech savvy guys from Mission Impossible, don't try to beat them on that field.

Don’t think we can beat them, otherwise we will be restricted from gambling even from those reputable casinos we often gamble. If we don’t like their idea of tracking us, then it’s better not to gamble at all than contradicting their rules and find ourselves in a huge trouble once we are caught. Using different email address is just scary, but I guess those who are professional tech savvy are still able to do it successfully.

[Fortify]

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

Sure, you can "circumvent" the protections that casinos and bookmakers put in place, but you're doing it with the intent to defraud a company which could lead to criminal prosecution. Like it or not, these companies are operating a certain business mode that mean most people lose money, those people are not forced to deposit money - they do so of their own free will and lose it on that same basis. They generally agree to the rules of using these sites, because they're holding out hope that they are the one in a (hundred) million player who might win big. If you don't want to follow the rules of the game, play a lottery instead because you probably have the same chance of winning big in the long run without trying to commit fraud with such actions.

[Wakate]

Have seen few discussion in this board about odd providers limiting user accounts, I assume they must be tracking user's accounts across multiple casinos by email address, kyc is triggered later.

My question is, would it be possible to circumvent such imposition by simply using different emails while registering on different casinos?

I'm going to get to the point, you ask a specific, direct question, and as I read, a month has already passed, you forgot us, no!, so, I ask you:

 Are you interested in cheating?

 The best first bet that can be made in a casino is honesty, looking for dishonest "ways" is not a good "way".

 Or are you just curious...

 Greetings, ah!, you do KYC to your thread. Ty!

It seems like op is just trying to be extra ordinary careful for nothing. He is somehow scared of providers limit the numbers of odd we can accumulate. Maybe he has plan of betting with bigger odds which I don't see it as a best way to play bet. When I want to book games, I do make sure that the odds is not many because this might affect me later on since the number of game too will be plenty. I like betting is the most easy and profitable way so I can hit a jack pot with lesser odds and bigger fund to back it up. It is very okay for me to bet big on small odds.