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January 26, 2023, 07:12:37 AM
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We can all relate in this one , because there are many of us who gambles more when they start learning online casinos comparing when we are not in this area and we mostly experience more losses but accessibility wise more than playing in real life casino houses.

Only in theory I would say.The problem is that once you become addicted it won't stop you a simple drive to not go to the physical casino of your choice.I was once addicted to offline casinos many many years ago and I had the nearest casino many miles away yet this didn't stop me to go there almost every day,it tired me a lot,I lost my job back then and many other benefits because of such addiction but what I want to say is that addiction does not grow faster or slower when we have better accessibility right now with our modern devices,that is just how one person feels.

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January 26, 2023, 07:22:26 AM
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If your friend have a gambling addiction online casino, he can just use self exclusion feature because all of reputable and trusted online casino always have this feature to make sure their gamblers doesn't have addiction problem. The fault is on your friend, actually he need to learn about self control and time management, he shouldn't gamble at anytime or in whole day, maybe your friend is a jobless.
Do not deceive yourself or do not be deceived, it is just because you were never an addict before. Although self-exclusion can help but not in an easy way, it can help when your family stepped in, know that you are addicted and trying all possible ways for you to stop. For oneself, it is not easy, you may not use self-exclusion and you may leave gambling, but if you are an addict, you can opt-in for self-exclusion and still later feel like gambling and register on another gambling site again and again. To stop gambling, or to stop addiction, it starts from within yourself, not by activating self-exclusion. But having the discipline and opt-in for self-exlclusion would be a good option.

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January 26, 2023, 02:56:48 PM
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.Op. Repetitive topic.  Now he is a friend, others are cousins, etc

It would be good, for example, if the stories had more statistical data or new things:
 I travel to Las Vegas and I spend $1000 in 6 months.  With zero profit.
 In that same time I have logged into my cell phone 180 times and I have lost or won x amount of money.

But...:
 I am more profitable playing in Las Vegas casinos.
 I am more profitable playing from my cell phone.

Then:
 When I'm playing live I use my cell phone to continue playing online too, I think I should put it down and focus on my game.

So, one should be able...:
One can analyze so many things and then accommodate each case to be profitable, avoid excess hours of play and manage losses and profits.

Finally...(imo)
But none of the above to a normal guy, healed, will cause addiction beyond what he can't control.

Addiction or gambling is a disease that is intrinsic in the person and that those who develop it generally have other associated pathologies, depression, anxiety, bipolar, etc.

Becomes addicted to games in the same way as he can to anything else that exists, alcohol, drugs, porn, social networks, in fact he surely has been addicted to other things and it stands out in something like gaming.

 It is obvious that immediate exposure to any of the above causes will develop your addiction.

 In any case, having a confidant or family member to help and oblige in the professional evaluation process is better than assuming.  

Please, Tell your friend "let's do a professional evaluation," to find out who is more prone to gambling.

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January 26, 2023, 03:34:39 PM
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I think he has a point. But to me, I think gambling in physical casinos is more enjoyable than playing on the phone, online. On the other hand, he already stated the reasons why gambling online is more addictive than playing in traditional casinos. Some other factors might be because it consumes less energy (which makes you play continuously for many hours) on top of it, you have all the means to deposit and play anytime.

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January 26, 2023, 06:58:52 PM
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We can all relate in this one , because there are many of us who gambles more when they start learning online casinos comparing when we are not in this area and we mostly experience more losses but accessibility wise more than playing in real life casino houses.
We have to be wiser in gambling because we will have a bad experience when we force our desire to continue gambling, even though we use our cellphones to gamble when we are outside the house. And indeed, online gambling can make us more addicted than when we go to physical casinos because of the ease of access that we can get in online casinos. And this is where we have to be wise in dealing with online casinos because I'm sure no one will want to become addicted to gambling after they play gambling.
What wise do you mean?
Even though everyone doesn't want to be addicted to gambling, indirectly curiosity will make someone go crazy about gambling and this cannot be avoided by every gambler.
Because actually being wise in dealing with gambling and online casinos is something that is impossible for every gambler to do.
What's more, if someone gambles using an online casino which has the convenience of accessing it at any time, as long as they have money they will continue to gamble at the online casino.

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January 26, 2023, 07:12:40 PM
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Although I respect all points of view, because we are people who have a desire to think very differently, what I think is that things are harmful when they are in excess, any activity that is done in excess can harm or will bring a consequence, with the The same thing happens in the casino, it can be an activity that offers fun and options to earn money, but if a person takes it as something that they have to do most of their time, they will have negative results, because it is known that the house advantage is always It will be greater, if you know that things are moving in that direction, you can understand that most likely, the more you insist, the more likely you are to lose, you have to know how to play and that is what you must make others understand.

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January 26, 2023, 07:16:28 PM
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I think he has a point. But to me, I think gambling in physical casinos is more enjoyable than playing on the phone, online. On the other hand, he already stated the reasons why gambling online is more addictive than playing in traditional casinos. Some other factors might be because it consumes less energy (which makes you play continuously for many hours) on top of it, you have all the means to deposit and play anytime.

I'm sure, there are pros and cons regarding which casino is more fun. be it online casinos, or land casinos. but certainly, you have the right to say which one is more fun according to your own version. Speaking of addiction, both land-based casinos and online casinos have great potential if you don't have self-control. It doesn't matter, physical casino or online. If you are an addict, you will always find a way to satisfy your cravings for gambling.

In fact, i would say the opposite of what you said. When you gamble at a physical casino, you get carried away by the casino atmosphere and spend hours on end. you will spend the contents of your savings balance, because there also provides an ATM machine. IMO, nothing is better in this comparison. because after all, everything comes back to you alone. in essence, if we have good control and high awareness. then we, will avoid things that lead to addiction. therefore, make gambling only part of a fun hobby with the money you are prepared to lose.

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January 26, 2023, 08:33:39 PM
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I have a discussion with a close relative about online gambling and he said something that about how he hate gambling online because it's too addictive, he claimed real life casinos are better and less addictive because he will have to drive down to Las Vegas to gamble or drive down to a local casino and this still takes some physical effort and it discourages many people from frequenting gambling.

He said with online gambling it's available on through mobile phones and you can play at any time, this means no shortage of gambling around the clock and no shortage of losing money as well, you can easily pull out your phone and gamble with any free time, a bit compulsive and too accessible.

What do you think about this claim? Is he right or wrong? 

People are already so addicted to their mobile phones, I think anything you give them access to on there is liable to end up in addiction.  Look at apps like Instagram and Snapchat.  These are things that people have turned into their lives.  They make friends there, make money there, document their lives there...  It's all a little crazy from an old school person like myself who values privacy.  So yes, I think having gambling apps on people's phones will increase addiction, but to me this is more of a knock on phones than it is gambling.  Businesses are supposed to make their products accessible, but phone producers take no responsibility in the people's addictions.

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January 26, 2023, 08:59:55 PM
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Although I respect all points of view, because we are people who have a desire to think very differently, what I think is that things are harmful when they are in excess, any activity that is done in excess can harm or will bring a consequence, with the The same thing happens in the casino, it can be an activity that offers fun and options to earn money, but if a person takes it as something that they have to do most of their time, they will have negative results, because it is known that the house advantage is always It will be greater, if you know that things are moving in that direction, you can understand that most likely, the more you insist, the more likely you are to lose, you have to know how to play and that is what you must make others understand.


Definitely true, anything excess is detrimental. Just do it in moderation.
And it is the person himself that can contain himself, not the others.
So if the person wants himself not to go to the path of losing it all, better do a regular assessment of his situation.
Any activity can be addictive, it now depends on the person how he will live with it without influencing much his overall lifestyle.
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I would also say the same that online casinos being too accessible or easy to access cause addiction more serious or grows faster as the title says. Even those people who doesn't like to submit personal information or details to pass KYC in the casino would be forced to submit KYC if they don't like the casinos that doesn't require KYC or prefer much better casinos to gamble. I think only a few people will do it if they really don't want to submit KYC.
Let me ask us this simple but delicate question.
What is in KYC that players always frawn upon, I understand the thing with identity theft by hackers who may get access to casino KYC data base, but aside from this single challenges I don't see why there should be problem submitting you identity documents to get verification, what we should settle in our mind is that, once you make the decision to use centralized platforms then be ready to give out your personal details. So ultimately,  KYC is not a dead end for gamblers but a choice to chose from.
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January 26, 2023, 09:35:49 PM
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Let me ask us this simple but delicate question.
What is in KYC that players always frawn upon, I understand the thing with identity theft by hackers who may get access to casino KYC data base, but aside from this single challenges I don't see why there should be problem submitting you identity documents to get verification, what we should settle in our mind is that, once you make the decision to use centralized platforms then be ready to give out your personal details. So ultimately,  KYC is not a dead end for gamblers but a choice to chose from.
I am sure that you are aware that Bitcoin is created for such purpose and I know that you know it. In short, it defeats the purpose of using cryptocurrency which is you won't be known or stay anonymous but the casino or the platform requires you to submit KYC then why bother gambling in that site or platform using crypto when you can't stay anonymous. I know it's because having license required the owner ask people KYC. It is a vit vague that made you think that it's a dead end for other gamblers who doesn't want to submit KYC but what I meant is that they will be forced to do KYC when they don't have a choice but to use centralized platforms as you have said.

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I am sure that you are aware that Bitcoin is created for such purpose and I know that you know it. In short, it defeats the purpose of using cryptocurrency which is you won't be known or stay anonymous but the casino or the platform requires you to submit KYC then why bother gambling in that site or platform using crypto when you can't stay anonymous. I know it's because having license required the owner ask people KYC. It is a vit vague and made you think that it's a dead end for other gamblers who don't want to submit KYC but what I meant is that they will be forced to do KYC when they don't have a choice but to use centralized platforms as you have said.
The fact is Bitcoin's core purpose doesn't include centralization but Bitcoin services can be centralized e.g exchange, casino, and payment processors e.t.c, but even with all the centralization around bitcoin still gives us the choice to either choose to give out our identity or remain anonymous because if an exchange or a casino is centralized as kyc compliance, you as a bitcoin user, you have the right to either give up your identity or look for an alternative platform that is decentralizeded. So it still balls down to one fact that is you are in charge of all your online activities.
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January 26, 2023, 09:52:58 PM
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I have a discussion with a close relative about online gambling and he said something that about how he hate gambling online because it's too addictive, he claimed real life casinos are better and less addictive because he will have to drive down to Las Vegas to gamble or drive down to a local casino and this still takes some physical effort and it discourages many people from frequenting gambling.

He said with online gambling it's available on through mobile phones and you can play at any time, this means no shortage of gambling around the clock and no shortage of losing money as well, you can easily pull out your phone and gamble with any free time, a bit compulsive and too accessible.

What do you think about this claim? Is he right or wrong? 

Gambling regardless if it’s online or traditional are proven to be addictive especially to those who gamble without limits and discipline. But I can also say that online gambling can be more dangerous too especially for minors as they can easily gamble using their phones even without the supervision from their guardians. And even with adults too. As long as gamblers have no discipline, and have always seen gambling as a source of income, eventually they will get addicted to gambling.

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January 26, 2023, 09:57:50 PM
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I think he has a point. But to me, I think gambling in physical casinos is more enjoyable than playing on the phone, online. On the other hand, he already stated the reasons why gambling online is more addictive than playing in traditional casinos. Some other factors might be because it consumes less energy (which makes you play continuously for many hours) on top of it, you have all the means to deposit and play anytime.

You can also play long hours in physical casinos too, much longer in online casinos, I have known several guys who spent 2 to 3 days in casinos because everything is already provided in the casinos like food drinks hotels, and entertainment, that is why casinos are situated inside the hotels, the ambiance in physical casinos is to make your stay long hours and spend more, both platforms are addictive you cannot escape addiction if you have no control in how you gamble.

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January 26, 2023, 11:58:22 PM
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Well, physical casinos can also be addictive especially with all the freebies and complementaries that they offer. They will try their best to capture your attention so you would be able to stay at the casino for as long as they want and for you to actually gamble again.
Actually, I believe brick and mortar casinos can be more addictive than online casinos. It's true that they aren't as easy to access as online websites which makes the number of potentially affected customers smaller. Maybe this is why some members think online casinos are more addictive.
The good thing about online casinos is that they have many tools which can help to spot addiction behavior and can blacklist a trouble gambler from all the platforms within a click.

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It does depend on how a certain person do control himself when it comes to this.Whenever you are dealing off with gambling, doesnt matter if its online or offline, if you are a type of person who do easily get addicted or get involved with on.There are people who are really that not good on handling themselves when it comes to gambling and thats where people do differ out.It cant really be denied that in todays
generation or era where technology do make things more accessible and this is why making ourselves too much involved on this in a snap where i do agree that it do adds up the
situation on which it could make yourself that addicted.
And only having good self-control can help us prevent addiction problems from coming to us because so far, people who come to gambling have not been prepared for how they should control themselves. They just play and play all the time without any restrictions so once they find the fun of playing gambling, it makes them forget about the risks of gambling addiction. Today's technology has made everything easier and indeed, the use of mobile phones has become an addiction for many people where people can't get away from their phones except when they are sleeping.

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January 27, 2023, 02:29:49 AM
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It does depend on how a certain person do control himself when it comes to this.Whenever you are dealing off with gambling, doesnt matter if its online or offline, if you are a type of person who do easily get addicted or get involved with on.There are people who are really that not good on handling themselves when it comes to gambling and thats where people do differ out.It cant really be denied that in todays
generation or era where technology do make things more accessible and this is why making ourselves too much involved on this in a snap where i do agree that it do adds up the
situation on which it could make yourself that addicted.
And only having good self-control can help us prevent addiction problems from coming to us because so far, people who come to gambling have not been prepared for how they should control themselves. They just play and play all the time without any restrictions so once they find the fun of playing gambling, it makes them forget about the risks of gambling addiction. Today's technology has made everything easier and indeed, the use of mobile phones has become an addiction for many people where people can't get away from their phones except when they are sleeping.
while you are correct that it is our self control that will save us , yet we are dealing with easy access here and that is online casino , in Real life casino you need to drive , spend some time just to enter the casino when in online ? only needs gadget and internet so in split a seconds? we are already playing and winning or losing.
that is the main objective of this thread so we can give our own experience towards our gambling action and outcome.

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January 27, 2023, 06:26:54 AM
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Presently, I am fighting app addiction, it's the same easy accessibility that caused it. Only that casino case is linked with money, and your friend is very right.
It's better if you seek for a professional help since you have a problem about app addiction, you may think you have no problem with it, but sooner or later if you can't solve it yourself, your daily activities will get distracted due to app addiction.
Thanks for the concern and advice, but my case has not crossed the "red line" yet, it's far from it, I was just being careful, and am even better at fighting it now. The issue is that when people could not know the issue on time, that's how it infests them deeper. Although what I see as an addition might be the regular way of others as I am a busy-minded person that likes to be focused on productive things rather than wasting my time on frivolities. That's where my addictive condition comes from, not that it's a threat to me as such.

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January 27, 2023, 06:50:14 AM
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What do you think about this claim? Is he right or wrong? 

Online gambling isn't that popular until the pandemic happened.
Gamblers can't go to casinos because of lockdowns. They don't want to be idle and they always want to gamble thus, they tried to gamble online and that's the start of popularity of online gambling.

Your close relative is right. Accessibility of online casinos right now is way easier thus, gamblers can gamble straight from their smart phone. Just a few clicks, place a bet and there you go. For gamblers, that would be way easier than driving minutes or even hours to go to a nearby casino just to gamble. Because of online gambling easier to get accessed, gamblers tend to get addicted way faster than when they are going to a casino as they have more time to spend when they are gambling online and when they spend more time, the chances of them getting addicted will be higher. On the other hand, physical casinos can also be addictive as well especially if you are going there more often.

We don't have any nearby casinos in our place and whenever I want to gamble, I always gamble online. Luckily for me, I didn't get addicted into online gambling because I can control myself and I have enough discipline to not to overspend on it as well.

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January 27, 2023, 06:55:03 AM
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Thanks for the concern and advice, but my case has not crossed the "red line" yet, it's far from it, I was just being careful, and am even better at fighting it now. The issue is that when people could not know the issue on time, that's how it infests them deeper. Although what I see as an addition might be the regular way of others as I am a busy-minded person that likes to be focused on productive things rather than wasting my time on frivolities. That's where my addictive condition comes from, not that it's a threat to me as such.
Imo instead of cutting it off just set a schedule. If you're unable to abide by it, make some forceful actions like setting up some sort of mechanism that bans you from access to whatever you're usually using for a set amount of time. Addiction in the first place stems from people bypassing any form of schedule and instead overinvesting their time to a certain activity after all, to the point that any time after a certain point obviously makes it very unhealthy.
You can also play long hours in physical casinos too, much longer in online casinos, I have known several guys who spent 2 to 3 days in casinos because everything is already provided in the casinos like food drinks hotels, and entertainment, that is why casinos are situated inside the hotels, the ambiance in physical casinos is to make your stay long hours and spend more, both platforms are addictive you cannot escape addiction if you have no control in how you gamble.
And they offer a lot more in terms of comfortability if you have the money. I mean it is perfectly comfortable to play at home, but that's like the very basic comfort you can get (unless you're rich a f already).

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