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Question: What will be the outcome of this fight?
A. Donaire by KO/TKO - 15 (51.7%)
B. Moloney by KO/TKO - 0 (0%)
C. Donaire by decision - 11 (37.9%)
D. Moloney by decision - 3 (10.3%)
E. Draw - 0 (0%)
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January 26, 2023, 02:45:21 PM
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Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.

That's the easiest path to go after retirement, just like Manny Pacquiao, he had a successful exhibition fight and he made money on that. Donaire is not convinced his career is over because Inoue has been beating young and old fighters, so he wants to try on this young fighter that does not have the quality of Inoue, which means he can take the punches and he can KO Jason Moloney if the latter makes a mistake.
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January 26, 2023, 03:16:52 PM
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Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.

That's the easiest path to go after retirement, just like Manny Pacquiao, he had a successful exhibition fight and he made money on that. Donaire is not convinced his career is over because Inoue has been beating young and old fighters, so he wants to try on this young fighter that does not have the quality of Inoue, which means he can take the punches and he can KO Jason Moloney if the latter makes a mistake.

It will be early for Donaire to retire and it is also not too late for him to prove himself more on the ring. There are still many chances for him to beat more strong boxers if he will be more determined and make his previous losses as his motivation.
The previous fights was tough for him but we know that he is still capable of doing more. I hope he will never lose this chance to win and prove that he will still be a strong Filipino boxer.
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January 26, 2023, 03:56:47 PM
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Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.

That's the easiest path to go after retirement, just like Manny Pacquiao, he had a successful exhibition fight and he made money on that. Donaire is not convinced his career is over because Inoue has been beating young and old fighters, so he wants to try on this young fighter that does not have the quality of Inoue, which means he can take the punches and he can KO Jason Moloney if the latter makes a mistake.

It will be early for Donaire to retire and it is also not too late for him to prove himself more on the ring. There are still many chances for him to beat more strong boxers if he will be more determined and make his previous losses as his motivation.
The previous fights was tough for him but we know that he is still capable of doing more. I hope he will never lose this chance to win and prove that he will still be a strong Filipino boxer.

I can see that in this upcoming fight, Donaire might win in terms of experience but with the power and speed we don't if he still has it. And, both fighters have experienced fighting with Inoue and they lose so I think they know what they are lacking. If I will bet on this fight, I'll choose Donaire because he will for sure prove to himself that he can still win a fight.
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January 26, 2023, 08:42:31 PM
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Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 
That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.

That's the easiest path to go after retirement, just like Manny Pacquiao, he had a successful exhibition fight and he made money on that. Donaire is not convinced his career is over because Inoue has been beating young and old fighters, so he wants to try on this young fighter that does not have the quality of Inoue, which means he can take the punches and he can KO Jason Moloney if the latter makes a mistake.

No doubt about that because I also believe the same thing that Nonito Donaire can still give some hardships to Jason Moloney and make his journey much harder for this vacated belt because just like the latter, Donaire is also on his own campaign to be a champion once more before he starts to consider a retirement. I'm just excited already to see how will this match go because Donaire will be facing another young blood but this time, not the type of monster like Inoue.

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January 26, 2023, 08:57:34 PM
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Meanwhile, Donaire's earlier target is to drop in weight and face El Gallo Estrada for his ambition to become a 5 division world champion. We will see if old Donaire entertains this fight as he was already a 2-time champion in this division and he's got a few more fights left in his career.
That's a good decision but too risky, dropping weight class and maintaining it until the day you fight is way more risker than adding weight especially with his current age imo. But if ever he successfully claim that title fight then that's good a feet for retirement only known people get 5 division titles in the history of boxing.

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January 26, 2023, 09:06:08 PM
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Meanwhile, Donaire's earlier target is to drop in weight and face El Gallo Estrada for his ambition to become a 5 division world champion. We will see if old Donaire entertains this fight as he was already a 2-time champion in this division and he's got a few more fights left in his career.
That's a good decision but too risky, dropping weight class and maintaining it until the day you fight is way more risker than adding weight especially with his current age imo. But if ever he successfully claim that title fight then that's good a feet for retirement only known people get 5 division titles in the history of boxing.
This could be the game plan before he retires and he can actually achieve it, he just need to sacrifice a lot just to maintain his weight and achieve this goal. Donaire is still a good boxer at his age, he can still offer a good fight but probably win or lose, this could be his last fight. Anyway, there’s no formal announcement yet so its hard to speculate what’s really the plan of Donnaire, but I’m sure he will still fight.
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January 26, 2023, 10:03:10 PM
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From my assessment between Jason Moloney vs. Nonito Donaire will be clashing next February, for now they have both been crowned WBC belt contenders.
In my personal assessment:
1. Moloney is younger than Donaire, 32/40.
2. Moloney with a record (25-2, 19 KOs) and Donaire (41-6 (27 KOs).

As far as I know, recently Donaire has often lost in boxing, if I'm not mistaken Donaire has experienced 7 defeats during his boxing career, maybe it's the age factor or other things, while Moloney during his boxing career has experienced 2 defeats, you could say both boxers are cage champions, different from other boxers in general, maybe this fight is a moment to fight for his future international boxing career.

But my prediction is fist between Jason Moloney vs. Nonito Donaire ends boxing by decision D.

I guess we can argue that age sometimes doesn't matter in boxing. We have seen Manny proved that against Keith Thurman.

Donaire's lost with some of the best boxer, and like when he tries to move up in the division facing bigger opponents. And the last time is against the Monster Inoue twice, so he has been facing the best opponents even as he age.

So I will give Donaire a chance in this fight and this could end in a knockout, if he can time Moloney and hit him with his vaunted left hook.

But I think the age factor is also an important supporting factor.
Not all boxers can be compared to Manny, right?

Movement reaction ability and punch speed will naturally decline with age.
Not to mention the injury factor due to the battles they had been through before.

Donaire is indeed great and has a lot of fighting experience but Moloney has the advantage that he is still at his prime in my opinion.
Even though it's like that I still hope Donaire is in top shape and beats Moloney.









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January 26, 2023, 10:13:58 PM
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^^ True, but if Donaire can still fight at this point, the only roadblocks for him is Inoue. All other champions and ranked fighter in 118 lbs? he beat them. So I would say that he has that mold and breed of probably Manny Pacquiao for longevity and skills.

I do agree that there are ability that you can lose as you age, but then again, Donaire uses more of his IQ, the way he set up his opponent. He is setting them up for his huge left hook that's why he still can knock people out with that one punch.

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^^ True, but if Donaire can still fight at this point, the only roadblocks for him is Inoue. All other champions and ranked fighter in 118 lbs? he beat them. So I would say that he has that mold and breed of probably Manny Pacquiao for longevity and skills.

I do agree that there are ability that you can lose as you age, but then again, Donaire uses more of his IQ, the way he set up his opponent. He is setting them up for his huge left hook that's why he still can knock people out with that one punch.
He has the speed
He has the good technical skills
He had a footwork

But all of these things are decreasing in efficiency as he do gets older.Its true that we've seen on what he lacks when he face up Inoue but doesnt mean that he wouldn't
really make some good fight.He do withstood for long rounds on where other people been speculating that it would be a TKO on few rounds which it didnt happen.
Lets talk about into his upcoming fight which i could say it would be a similar or in near with Inoue type of fighter but not really that powerful.

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January 26, 2023, 11:54:33 PM
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^^ True, but if Donaire can still fight at this point, the only roadblocks for him is Inoue. All other champions and ranked fighter in 118 lbs? he beat them. So I would say that he has that mold and breed of probably Manny Pacquiao for longevity and skills.

I do agree that there are ability that you can lose as you age, but then again, Donaire uses more of his IQ, the way he set up his opponent. He is setting them up for his huge left hook that's why he still can knock people out with that one punch.
He has the speed
He has the good technical skills
He had a footwork

But all of these things are decreasing in efficiency as he do gets older.Its true that we've seen on what he lacks when he face up Inoue but doesnt mean that he wouldn't
really make some good fight.He do withstood for long rounds on where other people been speculating that it would be a TKO on few rounds which it didnt happen.
Lets talk about into his upcoming fight which i could say it would be a similar or in near with Inoue type of fighter but not really that powerful.

stamina is his maybe his biggest challenge as he is growing older. technical skills and all, he has them. however, you can't avoid the aging factor, just like the last fight of pacquiao. well, we can never tell the true condition of their body up until they are inside the ring. but if donaire is continuously conditioning his body, i bet can he easily beat moloney. let's see...

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January 26, 2023, 11:59:09 PM
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The last title shot of Nonito Donaire in his career. He needs to win this as another achievement on his legacy.

Nonito Donaire is the oldest bantamweight boxer who managed to get the WBC Bantamweight Title when he KO Nordine Oubaali. He was 38 years old at that time. Fast forward and currently, at 40 years old, we can fairly say that he still got a chance to take another shot at the title and he should have fairly handled Jason Moloney.

Donaire already experienced fighting a monster, not once but twice, and was able to give that monster the toughest fight of its career. Moloney is not even close to the level of that monster. I will favor Donaire here to win the match.
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Donaire just won't stop boxing despite his age. I think he will lose this one to Moloney. Donaire has the power, although it must have decreased a bit because he's already 40. But he still could knock Moloney down, but probably not out. However, he doesn't anymore have the speed that made him the Filipino Flash. And because he's still more of a counter-puncher, I think Moloney can handle him pretty well. If Moloney goes down, Donaire doesn't have the bloodlust to finish him off right there and then.

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The last title shot of Nonito Donaire in his career. He needs to win this as another achievement on his legacy.

Nonito Donaire is the oldest bantamweight boxer who managed to get the WBC Bantamweight Title when he KO Nordine Oubaali. He was 38 years old at that time. Fast forward and currently, at 40 years old, we can fairly say that he still got a chance to take another shot at the title and he should have fairly handled Jason Moloney.

Donaire already experienced fighting a monster, not once but twice, and was able to give that monster the toughest fight of its career. Moloney is not even close to the level of that monster. I will favor Donaire here to win the match.

The fight hasn't happened yet. Fighting still in his 40s against Moloney who also has a high KO rate is going to be risky for him. They both share a loss against Inoue though.

If Donaire wins, you can only conclude he would have beaten Inoue if they fight in Donaire's prime. If the odds favor Moloney, it definitely is a sign for Donaaire to retire. Due to the love of the sport fighters don't retire and I hate to say this but it sometimes needs a knockout to realize.


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The last title shot of Nonito Donaire in his career. He needs to win this as another achievement on his legacy.

Nonito Donaire is the oldest bantamweight boxer who managed to get the WBC Bantamweight Title when he KO Nordine Oubaali. He was 38 years old at that time. Fast forward and currently, at 40 years old, we can fairly say that he still got a chance to take another shot at the title and he should have fairly handled Jason Moloney.

Donaire already experienced fighting a monster, not once but twice, and was able to give that monster the toughest fight of its career. Moloney is not even close to the level of that monster. I will favor Donaire here to win the match.

Good comparison and same here, I'm also rooting for Donaire to win against Moloney. Certainly not because of some pity as this might be Donaire's last title approach but because I know that he can still handle this fight well and might give a knockout as just like you've said, Moloney isn't in the same league with Inoue, so that will give him a slights upper hand as he also got more experience.

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However, as I said, my prediction is this is going to end in the judges scorecards, and I'm afraid the decision will not be in Donaire's favor.

Even if Donaire is the clear winner of the match?

I don't see some possible cheating here as Jason Moloney is not considered a cash cow or being protected fully by some higher folks out there. I will predict at 100% that this match will be fair and square, with no rumor of any manipulations or form of cheating in the result.

If Donaire will end up losing this match in the Decision, then maybe he ends up with the low scorecard for real and Moloney did a great job.

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January 27, 2023, 10:49:17 PM
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From my assessment between Jason Moloney vs. Nonito Donaire will be clashing next February, for now they have both been crowned WBC belt contenders.
In my personal assessment:
1. Moloney is younger than Donaire, 32/40.
2. Moloney with a record (25-2, 19 KOs) and Donaire (41-6 (27 KOs).

As far as I know, recently Donaire has often lost in boxing, if I'm not mistaken Donaire has experienced 7 defeats during his boxing career, maybe it's the age factor or other things, while Moloney during his boxing career has experienced 2 defeats, you could say both boxers are cage champions, different from other boxers in general, maybe this fight is a moment to fight for his future international boxing career.

But my prediction is fist between Jason Moloney vs. Nonito Donaire ends boxing by decision D.

A good comparison there, but I believe at the age of Donaire, he still has the power to KO his opponent, and Moloney doesn't have a sturdy chin to resist heavy punches.  So I believe a solid connection to the chin of Moloney can make him kiss the canvas.  Donaire's 7 defeat isn't a consecutive one but a defeat of his entire career.  He maybe lost 2x against Inoue but we all know Inoue is a monster, besides Moloney is also defeated by Inoue.

It is either a KO or a decision win for Donaire for me.  Grin

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Even if he wins this bout, I think his camp would probably urge him to retire, or accept one last rematch against Moloney and then call it quits. Tbh Donaire is not getting any younger, and his reflexes are certainly slowing down which may even be dangerous for his health as one fatal blow could potentially mess up his life. Best to hang the gloves after this fight no matter the outcome if he wants to enjoy what he's built over the years in his boxing career.

His camp has no power to influence his decision because, after all, it's his wife who is acting as his handler. Smiley

They will just continue to fight if there's an opportunity. Since this is a big opportunity, they grab it right away.

Only if Donaire will lose they will consider hanging his gloves.

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That's a good decision but too risky, dropping weight class and maintaining it until the day you fight is way more risker than adding weight especially with his current age imo. But if ever he successfully claim that title fight then that's good a feet for retirement only known people get 5 division titles in the history of boxing.
I think that there will be enough time for Donaire if him and his team chooses to weigh down. But if Moloney is already good with the said bout then it's okay for Donaire to take a stop over first and have this match.

And whether he wins or losses then he can proceed to the weighing down and another division that he may want to dominate before he entirely retires for it.

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That's a good decision but too risky, dropping weight class and maintaining it until the day you fight is way more risker than adding weight especially with his current age imo. But if ever he successfully claim that title fight then that's good a feet for retirement only known people get 5 division titles in the history of boxing.
I think that there will be enough time for Donaire if him and his team chooses to weigh down. But if Moloney is already good with the said bout then it's okay for Donaire to take a stop over first and have this match.

And whether he wins or losses then he can proceed to the weighing down and another division that he may want to dominate before he entirely retires for it.

Yup, it will be depending on how Donaire's team sees their opportunities and advantages. I also think that it will be good
for them to assess and see what will be the best option.

He's currently away after that defeat from the rematch against Inoue, so he has a lot of time
to prepare and make his comeback.

Having a belt when you decide to retire is a good addition to your legacy, or maybe he will take
another money fight if his camp still thinks that he is still capable.
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The last title shot of Nonito Donaire in his career. He needs to win this as another achievement on his legacy.

Yes, this is his last shot, all or nothing for him so he better win this fight to be able to cement his legacy.

Donaire already experienced fighting a monster, not once but twice, and was able to give that monster the toughest fight of its career. Moloney is not even close to the level of that monster. I will favor Donaire here to win the match.

Not just that, he has the tools, he might be old, but he still carry one of the best weapon in his left hook. I think he has perfected that power punch, it's like Roy Jones Jr, checked left hook, very fast and the timing as well when he throws that and it really hit the target.

That's why he has knockout a lot of great fighters with that signature checkered left hook he developed throughout his career.

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