Boxing: Nonito Donaire vs Jason Moloney

[chaser15]

It's always the age concern when Donaire has a fight. It's impossible for his doubters they will not to include that age matters.

On what fight we didn't hear that age concern? Of course, we won't include Inoue in our analysis as he's really on a top level and no one from the bantamweight is able to defeat him although Donaire is the only bantamweight that gives Inoue a serious beating on the Monster's career.

Let's start with Donaire after losing Inoue. He faced the WBC Champion Nordine Oubaali. Donaire was 38 years old at that time. As usual, before the fight, others say that Donaire was too old to fight as he loses to Inoue. But the result? He won against the 34 years old Ouballi and even knocked this guy 4 times. His next fight is against a much younger and fellow Filipino Reymart Gaballo who is 24 years old at that time and currently in prime. And as usual again, others also pointed out that Donaire is too old on that fight at 39 years old but the result is, he won against that young and prime boxer and knocked him out in just 4th round.

Jason Moloney is a good test for Donaire if he can still match with top bantamweight at his age.

[dothebeats]

It's always the age concern when Donaire has a fight. It's impossible for his doubters they will not to include that age matters.

On what fight we didn't hear that age concern? Of course, we won't include Inoue in our analysis as he's really on a top level and no one from the bantamweight is able to defeat him although Donaire is the only bantamweight that gives Inoue a serious beating on the Monster's career.

Let's start with Donaire after losing Inoue. He faced the WBC Champion Nordine Oubaali. Donaire was 38 years old at that time. As usual, before the fight, others say that Donaire was too old to fight as he loses to Inoue. But the result? He won against the 34 years old Ouballi and even knocked this guy 4 times. His next fight is against a much younger and fellow Filipino Reymart Gaballo who is 24 years old at that time and currently in prime. And as usual again, others also pointed out that Donaire is too old on that fight at 39 years old but the result is, he won against that young and prime boxer and knocked him out in just 4th round.

Jason Moloney is a good test for Donaire if he can still match with top bantamweight at his age.

You can't really disregard Donaire's age in his future fights. It will always be a question because obviously, as humans become older, they tend to lose some of their endurance, strength, and mobility generally. What more in fights wherein a lot of strain is put in the body of the fighter? But yeah, with age comes experience, and this is what Donaire uses to edge against his opponents that, so far, is working so well even though he didn't got to bet Inoue.

Even Manny Pacquiao got old before the legend hung up his gloves. He was still active and his punches still pack a lot of power, but his speed was noticeably slower and yet he still managed to not get knocked out on his last fights.

[harizen]

I think that there will be enough time for Donaire if him and his team chooses to weigh down. But if Moloney is already good with the said bout then it's okay for Donaire to take a stop over first and have this match.

And whether he wins or losses then he can proceed to the weighing down and another division that he may want to dominate before he entirely retires for it.

The reason why Donaire considers moving down weight is that no chance at all to take a title shot at the Bantamweight as Inoue is really a monster.

Since Inoue moved up, Donaire shifted gears and accept the mandatory bout for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title as a Rank 2 contender.

Donaire doesn't experience much big trouble in keeping up with the required weight in his entire boxing career. Regardless if he will fight on Super Lightweight or stay in Bantamweight, no problem at all regarding weight.

[Jating]

I think that there will be enough time for Donaire if him and his team chooses to weigh down. But if Moloney is already good with the said bout then it's okay for Donaire to take a stop over first and have this match.

And whether he wins or losses then he can proceed to the weighing down and another division that he may want to dominate before he entirely retires for it.

The reason why Donaire considers moving down weight is that no chance at all to take a title shot at the Bantamweight as Inoue is really a monster.

Since Inoue moved up, Donaire shifted gears and accept the mandatory bout for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title as a Rank 2 contender.

Donaire doesn't experience much big trouble in keeping up with the required weight in his entire boxing career. Regardless if he will fight on Super Lightweight or stay in Bantamweight, no problem at all regarding weight.

Yes, he might not have a problem, but it can pose a threat to his body as he is not getting any younger. But it's better for him to stay at 118 lbs, I think this weight is perfect for him. We have seen him knocking out his opponents and even goes to the finals with Inoue at the WBSS tournament. But I do agree that he target 115 lbs because Inoue has beaten him. And now that Inoue moves up, Donaire should be fine with this division again and could be the champion next if ever he beats Moloney.

[Japinat]

I think that there will be enough time for Donaire if him and his team chooses to weigh down. But if Moloney is already good with the said bout then it's okay for Donaire to take a stop over first and have this match.

And whether he wins or losses then he can proceed to the weighing down and another division that he may want to dominate before he entirely retires for it.

The reason why Donaire considers moving down weight is that no chance at all to take a title shot at the Bantamweight as Inoue is really a monster.

Since Inoue moved up, Donaire shifted gears and accept the mandatory bout for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title as a Rank 2 contender.

Donaire doesn't experience much big trouble in keeping up with the required weight in his entire boxing career. Regardless if he will fight on Super Lightweight or stay in Bantamweight, no problem at all regarding weight.

Yes, he might not have a problem, but it can pose a threat to his body as he is not getting any younger. But it's better for him to stay at 118 lbs, I think this weight is perfect for him. We have seen him knocking out his opponents and even goes to the finals with Inoue at the WBSS tournament. But I do agree that he target 115 lbs because Inoue has beaten him. And now that Inoue moves up, Donaire should be fine with this division again and could be the champion next if ever he beats Moloney.

At his age now, he has to stay at the weight that he is most comfortable with. This will be his last attempt to become a champion again, and I believe he will not stay long defending the title as he is not getting any younger, it will be pride for him that he will retire as a champion. Of course not only him but for the Filipinos that are following and supporting his career as a boxer.

[Botnake]

It's always the age concern when Donaire has a fight. It's impossible for his doubters they will not to include that age matters.

On what fight we didn't hear that age concern? Of course, we won't include Inoue in our analysis as he's really on a top level and no one from the bantamweight is able to defeat him although Donaire is the only bantamweight that gives Inoue a serious beating on the Monster's career.

Let's start with Donaire after losing Inoue. He faced the WBC Champion Nordine Oubaali. Donaire was 38 years old at that time. As usual, before the fight, others say that Donaire was too old to fight as he loses to Inoue. But the result? He won against the 34 years old Ouballi and even knocked this guy 4 times. His next fight is against a much younger and fellow Filipino Reymart Gaballo who is 24 years old at that time and currently in prime. And as usual again, others also pointed out that Donaire is too old on that fight at 39 years old but the result is, he won against that young and prime boxer and knocked him out in just 4th round.

Jason Moloney is a good test for Donaire if he can still match with top bantamweight at his age.

You can't really disregard Donaire's age in his future fights. It will always be a question because obviously, as humans become older, they tend to lose some of their endurance, strength, and mobility generally. What more in fights wherein a lot of strain is put in the body of the fighter? But yeah, with age comes experience, and this is what Donaire uses to edge against his opponents that, so far, is working so well even though he didn't got to bet Inoue.

Even Manny Pacquiao got old before the legend hung up his gloves. He was still active and his punches still pack a lot of power, but his speed was noticeably slower and yet he still managed to not get knocked out on his last fights.

Their only advantage is their prowess, experience and IQ inside the ring, that's all. But you can't really discount them because can still beat boxers up boxers for good if they got the chance or the opposite camp gets very complacent just because they are now moving slowly. Surely these veterans knew their disadvantage when they are getting older, that is why their training is much more different and much more intense so that they will be still battle-ready when the time comes. In short, this is still a good fight and if you guys saw the current poll, Donaire is even heavily favored to win by a way of knockout.

[molsewid]

You can't really disregard Donaire's age in his future fights. It will always be a question because obviously, as humans become older, they tend to lose some of their endurance, strength, and mobility generally. What more in fights wherein a lot of strain is put in the body of the fighter? But yeah, with age comes experience, and this is what Donaire uses to edge against his opponents that, so far, is working so well even though he didn't got to bet Inoue.

Even Manny Pacquiao got old before the legend hung up his gloves. He was still active and his punches still pack a lot of power, but his speed was noticeably slower and yet he still managed to not get knocked out on his last fights.

I agree, they can age but their power is still in there as long as they never stops practicing and training but then as people get older the agility may decrease little by little but I think with training they can still be fast as well. I know Donaire but not Jason so I don't want to be bias . But we all know sports doesn't need tenacity and agility it also needs mental abitility and emotional fortitude.

[Shamm]

Nonito the Filipino flash Donaire will came back to the and fight Jason Moloney as we all know how this fighter hadle his opponent during the fight day. Maloney is one of the best fighter and also he has a big advantage as we all know that Donaire is getting Older . But I think Donaire will prove that he can play and win by his age he can still be a champion. For me in this fight Ill choose Donaire to win the match ad Donaire has many experience

[Pamadar]

Nonito the Filipino flash Donaire will came back to the and fight Jason Moloney as we all know how this fighter hadle his opponent during the fight day. Maloney is one of the best fighter and also he has a big advantage as we all know that Donaire is getting Older . But I think Donaire will prove that he can play and win by his age he can still be a champion. For me in this fight Ill choose Donaire to win the match ad Donaire has many experience

It can be a close matchup since you mentioned that Maloney is also a top rank fighter. The advantage might be a good experienced
that Donaire earned from all those past fights he has.

We can give our decent opinion, but the outcome will be the final say if who will win and will
take the vacant belt that Inoue left, more on good preparations both physical and mental
as we know, boxing is not just a game of power but also a good mindset to execute your
fighting strategy the right way.

[Sanitough]

Donaire is looking for one last big fight and he wants to end his career with another title, every boxer whose career is in the twilight will like to have that graceful exit, I just hope he'll get it this time and finally retire, a title on his belt will vanish that nightmare loss
to Inoue, because the boxing history book and people always remember your last fight.
I hope Donaire will finally consider retirement if he wins the fight and the title, that's the best time to retire. 

That may be the best choice he will make after the fight. Win or lose. Then just do exhibition games if he thinks he still miss boxing just like what other old boxers are doing now. He did prove himself and if only he is in his prime, he may have been the one who defeated Inoue and blemished that perfect record of him.
It's difficult to predict where this fight will go but I am thinking Donaire's heart to claim the title back is bigger than Moloney. He will definitely box like it's his last dance and perhaps the retirement is also being suggested to him by his team.

That's the easiest path to go after retirement, just like Manny Pacquiao, he had a successful exhibition fight and he made money on that. Donaire is not convinced his career is over because Inoue has been beating young and old fighters, so he wants to try on this young fighter that does not have the quality of Inoue, which means he can take the punches and he can KO Jason Moloney if the latter makes a mistake.

It will be early for Donaire to retire and it is also not too late for him to prove himself more on the ring. There are still many chances for him to beat more strong boxers if he will be more determined and make his previous losses as his motivation.
The previous fights was tough for him but we know that he is still capable of doing more. I hope he will never lose this chance to win and prove that he will still be a strong Filipino boxer.

I guess he can do a couple more if it turns out that he can defeat Moloney in this one but I think he won't fight anyone unless it's another title fight where he can have another belt in his possession, I doubt that he will have a some title defense because that would be a waste of time on his side because his clock is ticking as he knows that he can't do some clean-up in the division anymore unlike when he was still young.

[goinmerry]

Yes, he might not have a problem, but it can pose a threat to his body as he is not getting any younger. But it's better for him to stay at 118 lbs, I think this weight is perfect for him. We have seen him knocking out his opponents and even goes to the finals with Inoue at the WBSS tournament. But I do agree that he target 115 lbs because Inoue has beaten him. And now that Inoue moves up, Donaire should be fine with this division again and could be the champion next if ever he beats Moloney.

118 to 122 lbs are Donaire's comfort zone. He is already used to fighting in that weight range. I don't think that there will be too much difference in his performance if he decides to fight at 122 lbs instead of 118 lbs. He already knows how to deal with that weight class.

Do you mean a 40-year-old boxer will perform better at 118 compared to 122? That doesn't make sense as regardless, it's the level of performance of his opponent that will test his skills. What I mean is, what's the sense of Donaire experiencing 2 tough fights against Inoue at 122 lbs if what he learns here will be applied to opponents at 118 lbs?

Let Donaire experience to himself if he can still win against other Bantamweight with the exception of Inoue.

[livingfree]

I think that there will be enough time for Donaire if him and his team chooses to weigh down. But if Moloney is already good with the said bout then it's okay for Donaire to take a stop over first and have this match.

And whether he wins or losses then he can proceed to the weighing down and another division that he may want to dominate before he entirely retires for it.

Yup, it will be depending on how Donaire's team sees their opportunities and advantages. I also think that it will be good
for them to assess and see what will be the best option.

He's currently away after that defeat from the rematch against Inoue, so he has a lot of time
to prepare and make his comeback.

Having a belt when you decide to retire is a good addition to your legacy, or maybe he will take
another money fight if his camp still thinks that he is still capable.

There is a sure thing that they've assessed it first before proceeding to any deal that they'll take. Like what will happen if the path A they'll take and what's with them if B path is taken and so on.

All about retirement was said when he's beaten by Inoue and then, here he goes. No plans yet of retiring but more noise for his come back to whoever he's going to box with.

[serjent05]

There is a sure thing that they've assessed it first before proceeding to any deal that they'll take. Like what will happen if the path A they'll take and what's with them if B path is taken and so on.

All about retirement was said when he's beaten by Inoue and then, here he goes. No plans yet of retiring but more noise for his come back to whoever he's going to box with.

Donaire's retirement was postponed because Donaire feels that he can still box.  Besides he set another goal before he can retire and that is getting a five division title by fighting on the lower weight class.  But it looks like it will move since he has a fight against Moloney for the vacant title when Inoue goes up in Division.


I also think that Donaire is still capable, now we have to see what the opponent will prepare to exploit the aging Donaire.

[chaser15]

It's always the age concern when Donaire has a fight. It's impossible for his doubters they will not to include that age matters.

On what fight we didn't hear that age concern? Of course, we won't include Inoue in our analysis as he's really on a top level and no one from the bantamweight is able to defeat him although Donaire is the only bantamweight that gives Inoue a serious beating on the Monster's career.

Let's start with Donaire after losing Inoue. He faced the WBC Champion Nordine Oubaali. Donaire was 38 years old at that time. As usual, before the fight, others say that Donaire was too old to fight as he loses to Inoue. But the result? He won against the 34 years old Ouballi and even knocked this guy 4 times. His next fight is against a much younger and fellow Filipino Reymart Gaballo who is 24 years old at that time and currently in prime. And as usual again, others also pointed out that Donaire is too old on that fight at 39 years old but the result is, he won against that young and prime boxer and knocked him out in just 4th round.

Jason Moloney is a good test for Donaire if he can still match with top bantamweight at his age.

You can't really disregard Donaire's age in his future fights. It will always be a question because obviously, as humans become older, they tend to lose some of their endurance, strength, and mobility generally. What more in fights wherein a lot of strain is put in the body of the fighter? But yeah, with age comes experience, and this is what Donaire uses to edge against his opponents that, so far, is working so well even though he didn't got to bet Inoue.

Even Manny Pacquiao got old before the legend hung up his gloves. He was still active and his punches still pack a lot of power, but his speed was noticeably slower and yet he still managed to not get knocked out on his last fights.

I don't really disregard Donaire's age but what I'm trying to point out is, in doing technical analysis, age should not be the MAIN FACTOR on why Doinare shouldn't win against his opponents. Against Oubaali, against Gaballo, that was after fighting Inoue for the first time which Donaire lose, it's the age the main reason that people mostly pointed out why Donaire's chance of winning is on the verge.

This fight against Moloney will be the fight that will tell us if Donaire can still win against any bantamweight.

If he loses, that's not the age as the reason but rather Moloney just dominates him and does the right thing to win.

[Botnake]

I don't really disregard Donaire's age but what I'm trying to point out is, in doing technical analysis, age should not be the MAIN FACTOR on why Doinare shouldn't win against his opponents. Against Oubaali, against Gaballo, that was after fighting Inoue for the first time which Donaire lose, it's the age the main reason that people mostly pointed out why Donaire's chance of winning is on the verge.

This fight against Moloney will be the fight that will tell us if Donaire can still win against any bantamweight.

If he loses, that's not the age as the reason but rather Moloney just dominates him and does the right thing to win.

This is the deciding factor whether he will continue fighting or will just retire. If he losses, then the best thing to do is just to retire and just be contented of what he accomplished in his boxing career. IMO, age is really a big factor but we have been saying that Donaire is old already before he was defeated by Inoue, and yet he was still beating young fighters, so let's see this one.

[Baofeng]

I don't really disregard Donaire's age but what I'm trying to point out is, in doing technical analysis, age should not be the MAIN FACTOR on why Doinare shouldn't win against his opponents. Against Oubaali, against Gaballo, that was after fighting Inoue for the first time which Donaire lose, it's the age the main reason that people mostly pointed out why Donaire's chance of winning is on the verge.

This fight against Moloney will be the fight that will tell us if Donaire can still win against any bantamweight.

If he loses, that's not the age as the reason but rather Moloney just dominates him and does the right thing to win.

This is the deciding factor whether he will continue fighting or will just retire. If he losses, then the best thing to do is just to retire and just be contented of what he accomplished in his boxing career. IMO, age is really a big factor but we have been saying that Donaire is old already before he was defeated by Inoue, and yet he was still beating young fighters, so let's see this one.

Yes, it was only Inoue who really put a stain on Donaire's comeback record, all other boxers that he fought, he beat them with a statement win, knockout after knockout and winning the belt. So maybe it's not yet the age of Donaire, but the skills of Inoue is really above anyone else at 118 lbs that's why he unify all the belts. But since he is moving up, Donaire will be biggest attraction and could still be the champion against Moloney. Let's talk about his retirement after this fight win or lose.

[Vaculin]

Nonito the Filipino flash Donaire will came back to the and fight Jason Moloney as we all know how this fighter hadle his opponent during the fight day. Maloney is one of the best fighter and also he has a big advantage as we all know that Donaire is getting Older . But I think Donaire will prove that he can play and win by his age he can still be a champion. For me in this fight Ill choose Donaire to win the match ad Donaire has many experience

It can be a close matchup since you mentioned that Maloney is also a top rank fighter. The advantage might be a good experienced
that Donaire earned from all those past fights he has.

We can give our decent opinion, but the outcome will be the final say if who will win and will
take the vacant belt that Inoue left, more on good preparations both physical and mental
as we know, boxing is not just a game of power but also a good mindset to execute your
fighting strategy the right way.

There's a quote that goes, "hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard".

So it's really not all about muscles and power because there will always that someone who will be much prepared than you, so it's really not good to be complacent just because you had a good advantage over the other and experience will always speak the most. Well it seems that both Donaire and Moloney got the experience needed, it will be now a battle of mindset and to see which is which and yes, I reckon that this will be a good close bout.

[AmoreJaz]

I don't really disregard Donaire's age but what I'm trying to point out is, in doing technical analysis, age should not be the MAIN FACTOR on why Doinare shouldn't win against his opponents. Against Oubaali, against Gaballo, that was after fighting Inoue for the first time which Donaire lose, it's the age the main reason that people mostly pointed out why Donaire's chance of winning is on the verge.

This fight against Moloney will be the fight that will tell us if Donaire can still win against any bantamweight.

If he loses, that's not the age as the reason but rather Moloney just dominates him and does the right thing to win.

This is the deciding factor whether he will continue fighting or will just retire. If he losses, then the best thing to do is just to retire and just be contented of what he accomplished in his boxing career. IMO, age is really a big factor but we have been saying that Donaire is old already before he was defeated by Inoue, and yet he was still beating young fighters, so let's see this one.

Yes, it was only Inoue who really put a stain on Donaire's comeback record, all other boxers that he fought, he beat them with a statement win, knockout after knockout and winning the belt. So maybe it's not yet the age of Donaire, but the skills of Inoue is really above anyone else at 118 lbs that's why he unify all the belts. But since he is moving up, Donaire will be biggest attraction and could still be the champion against Moloney. Let's talk about his retirement after this fight win or lose.

if he will still win over moloney, i believe he won't retire yet and maybe ask another big fight before he hang his gloves. inoue is already moving up so yes, maybe donaire wants to get the belts again for 118 weight division. but then again, his age is fast catching up also so he needs to do what he wants to be done before his stamina told him to stop already.

[livingfree]

There is a sure thing that they've assessed it first before proceeding to any deal that they'll take. Like what will happen if the path A they'll take and what's with them if B path is taken and so on.

All about retirement was said when he's beaten by Inoue and then, here he goes. No plans yet of retiring but more noise for his come back to whoever he's going to box with.

Donaire's retirement was postponed because Donaire feels that he can still box.  Besides he set another goal before he can retire and that is getting a five division title by fighting on the lower weight class.  But it looks like it will move since he has a fight against Moloney for the vacant title when Inoue goes up in Division.

Yeah, that's already what he's set for now.

To get the title that's vacated by Inoue and even if it's sad on his part that he can't beat Inoue but at least, the guy has already left the title and there's now his chance to take it and then retire.

Did Moloney already agreed to this match?

[serjent05]

There is a sure thing that they've assessed it first before proceeding to any deal that they'll take. Like what will happen if the path A they'll take and what's with them if B path is taken and so on.

All about retirement was said when he's beaten by Inoue and then, here he goes. No plans yet of retiring but more noise for his come back to whoever he's going to box with.

Donaire's retirement was postponed because Donaire feels that he can still box.  Besides he set another goal before he can retire and that is getting a five division title by fighting on the lower weight class.  But it looks like it will move since he has a fight against Moloney for the vacant title when Inoue goes up in Division.

Yeah, that's already what he's set for now.

To get the title that's vacated by Inoue and even if it's sad on his part that he can't beat Inoue but at least, the guy has already left the title and there's now his chance to take it and then retire.

Did Moloney already agreed to this match?

I read Nonito Donaire and Jason Moloney is ordered to fight for the vacant WBC title[1] and I believe both camp had agree on it though I don't know if they already signed the contract.I also watch that Moloney is trying to get the title without fighting Donaire but was caught by Donaire's camp that they are secretly conversing with the WBC [1] requesting them to elect Moloney as the champion without fighting Donaire.

[1] https://sports.inquirer.net/494502/nonito-donaire-jason-moloney-ordered-to-fight-for-vacant-wbc-title
[2] https://youtu.be/tMXu4D9mKUE?t=86