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Question: What will be the outcome of this fight?
A. Donaire by KO/TKO - 15 (51.7%)
B. Moloney by KO/TKO - 0 (0%)
C. Donaire by decision - 11 (37.9%)
D. Moloney by decision - 3 (10.3%)
E. Draw - 0 (0%)
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February 07, 2023, 09:21:37 PM
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They are lucky that Inoue decided to move up, otherwise, this division will be owned by Inoue as long as he stays active.

As of this time, there's no clear opponent that Donaire might fight next. No words from Moloney too. Maybe told by his Boss to keep his mouth shut lol.

Or probably they are talking to other promoters on how to settle this one since Moloney or his camp doesn't want Donaire.

And so before Donaire opens his mouth, at least the fight should be 99% in the bag already, no more last second backing up just like what happen here. As for Inoue moving up, it's good for the Donaire, opening up a lot of opportunities for boxers to get a belt.

So let's wait for Donaire or on Moloney side, for sure all bodies are looking to have a fight as all the belts are open now. They immediately need a champion.


Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.

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February 07, 2023, 09:45:47 PM
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They are lucky that Inoue decided to move up, otherwise, this division will be owned by Inoue as long as he stays active.

As of this time, there's no clear opponent that Donaire might fight next. No words from Moloney too. Maybe told by his Boss to keep his mouth shut lol.

Or probably they are talking to other promoters on how to settle this one since Moloney or his camp doesn't want Donaire.

And so before Donaire opens his mouth, at least the fight should be 99% in the bag already, no more last second backing up just like what happen here. As for Inoue moving up, it's good for the Donaire, opening up a lot of opportunities for boxers to get a belt.

So let's wait for Donaire or on Moloney side, for sure all bodies are looking to have a fight as all the belts are open now. They immediately need a champion.


Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
All of us would really be keeping on having these speculative approach on which as long they arent opening their mouths then there's no way that we could know on what would be their decisions.
Whether it is really that showing that Moloneys team arent really that interested on Donaire or something in behind with these decisions. In overall i could say that Donaire does still have it
and i dont have doubts that he cant fire up for any upcoming fights.He's not that old or might had past his prime but the power and speed is still there.

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February 07, 2023, 09:55:33 PM
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Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Yes, that's true. Before he ends up his professional career, there has to be a good landing for it so that he'll just take it lightly and won't be feeling for his retirement.
It's in the book that it seems that he really wants to have that beautiful ending like winning first before he gets out of professional boxing. Who knows after this, if he'll also do the same thing like exhibition matches just like what the other retirees did.

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February 07, 2023, 10:35:01 PM
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They are lucky that Inoue decided to move up, otherwise, this division will be owned by Inoue as long as he stays active.

As of this time, there's no clear opponent that Donaire might fight next. No words from Moloney too. Maybe told by his Boss to keep his mouth shut lol.

Or probably they are talking to other promoters on how to settle this one since Moloney or his camp doesn't want Donaire.

And so before Donaire opens his mouth, at least the fight should be 99% in the bag already, no more last second backing up just like what happen here. As for Inoue moving up, it's good for the Donaire, opening up a lot of opportunities for boxers to get a belt.

So let's wait for Donaire or on Moloney side, for sure all bodies are looking to have a fight as all the belts are open now. They immediately need a champion.


Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.

And that's where the influence of these promoters came into the picture, obviously, Bob Arum doesn't want to work with Donaire's manager and so even if they agree before hand in the November 2022 held every year by WBC in their convention, it's not an assurance that the fight is going to happen.

So now Donaire doesn't have a dance partner as Moloney decided not to fight and probably will go with other fights in other organization. Donaire can do the same as well, but it seems he has his sight at the WBC belt.

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February 07, 2023, 11:47:50 PM
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Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now,
He's known for that.

He won't back out when the fight is already about to happen. And knowing that he's quite near to his farewell for his career, he'd do everything to win whoever will be assigned to fight him.

Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Without a doubt.

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February 08, 2023, 01:10:09 AM
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Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now,
He's known for that.

He won't back out when the fight is already about to happen. And knowing that he's quite near to his farewell for his career, he'd do everything to win whoever will be assigned to fight him.

Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Without a doubt.

He deserves a crack because he is rank higher in WBC or even in WBA.

And then we know that he can still pull the trigger against this young fighters in this division, it's that Inoue is too good for everyone including Nonito. But if you are going to pit him with the rest of the rank fighters, I think Donaire will beat majority of them or even score a knockout. It's that he is under the management of Probellum and Moloney's manager doesn't want to work with that promotion.

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February 08, 2023, 02:17:08 AM
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Why is the WBC making these two fight when according to the WBC ranking Donaire and Casimnero are the next on the top. These two should be the first to have the chance to take the vacant position. Moloney had not gone far compare to the Donaire. Although Donaire is weary, he can defeat Moloney in a few rounds judging by his last fight against Inoue.
While many Filipino are looking on that match yet how can Pinoy afford that their best boxers will face each other? and this is also the reason why Casimero move up to Higher weight to deny this bout(for respect to the former title holder)

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 back to the topic ,  I think that this will be an interesting fight since Nonito had just lose His title recently and wanted to have a come back ( though I thought he is retiring as His age are not far from Manny Pacquiao)









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February 08, 2023, 02:30:51 AM
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I think that this will be an interesting fight since Nonito had just lose His title recently and wanted to have a come back ( though I thought he is retiring as His age are not far from Manny Pacquiao)
Well, if Donaire is considering to retire, isn't it good to exit with a last win fight than a lose?

But I doubt he will retire sooner, I never heard any announcement about this. Moreover, he's not too old and can still fight even with younger boxers. Thus, I hope this fight will push through so we can see Donaire in the ring once again.

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February 08, 2023, 02:49:42 AM
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They are lucky that Inoue decided to move up, otherwise, this division will be owned by Inoue as long as he stays active.

As of this time, there's no clear opponent that Donaire might fight next. No words from Moloney too. Maybe told by his Boss to keep his mouth shut lol.

Or probably they are talking to other promoters on how to settle this one since Moloney or his camp doesn't want Donaire.

And so before Donaire opens his mouth, at least the fight should be 99% in the bag already, no more last second backing up just like what happen here. As for Inoue moving up, it's good for the Donaire, opening up a lot of opportunities for boxers to get a belt.

So let's wait for Donaire or on Moloney side, for sure all bodies are looking to have a fight as all the belts are open now. They immediately need a champion.


Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.

Yeah, we've seen a lot of good fighters who's not cherry picking their opponent and were able to ge themselves ready for far to whoever is in the table. Donaire is one of them, Pacquiao, and a lot of great mexican fighters. But, today? Dang! Those fighters who were considered the best with their unblemished records are even afraid to fight each other. That is something that the fans don't like to happen, not seeing best fighters fight each other while they're still in their prime.
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February 08, 2023, 02:57:18 AM
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Well, if Donaire is considering to retire, isn't it good to exit with a last win fight than a lose?
that is if he will surely win this , what if another loss? consider like Mayweather , this is the reason he retired already because he don't wanna break his undefeated record so he will stay a total record holder for not losing a single professional career .

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But I doubt he will retire sooner, I never heard any announcement about this. Moreover, he's not too old and can still fight even with younger boxers. Thus, I hope this fight will push through so we can see Donaire in the ring once again.
well but  at the age of 40+? it is not that old but enough to consider retirement and focus in life.

anyway about the fight? I am confident that he will win this one as he is eager to have another win from his recent losing .

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February 08, 2023, 03:04:31 AM
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I think that this will be an interesting fight since Nonito had just lose His title recently and wanted to have a come back ( though I thought he is retiring as His age are not far from Manny Pacquiao)
Well, if Donaire is considering to retire, isn't it good to exit with a last win fight than a lose?

But I doubt he will retire sooner, I never heard any announcement about this. Moreover, he's not too old and can still fight even with younger boxers. Thus, I hope this fight will push through so we can see Donaire in the ring once again.
yeah that should be the best way in retiring , with Win on your name or at least to have a title?
but you are correct that he may not considered retiring because he has a years before that at least another 2-3 years more?
also I want Him to try beating the japanese monster first before retirement and that is Naoya Inoue lol.









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February 08, 2023, 03:06:32 AM
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Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Yes, that's true. Before he ends up his professional career, there has to be a good landing for it so that he'll just take it lightly and won't be feeling for his retirement.
It's in the book that it seems that he really wants to have that beautiful ending like winning first before he gets out of professional boxing. Who knows after this, if he'll also do the same thing like exhibition matches just like what the other retirees did.
I think that is what Donaire is looking for, the best possible ending for the career of any athlete is to retire a champion, that way they will not have any regrets about finally deciding to leave their beloved sport behind, and Donaire has a great opportunity to do exactly this, however according to this article it seems the fight between Donaire and Moloney is already canceled and it is not going to take place.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190



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February 08, 2023, 04:15:53 AM
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I think that this will be an interesting fight since Nonito had just lose His title recently and wanted to have a come back ( though I thought he is retiring as His age are not far from Manny Pacquiao)
Well, if Donaire is considering to retire, isn't it good to exit with a last win fight than a lose?

But I doubt he will retire sooner, I never heard any announcement about this. Moreover, he's not too old and can still fight even with younger boxers. Thus, I hope this fight will push through so we can see Donaire in the ring once again.
Yeah, I don't think he will retire yet, it's too early or he might want to return on that winning record first.

Nonito Donaire wants the fight according to reports but I think it's Jason Moloney who is trying to be wise and avoid him or the promoter's problem again.
Top Rank versus Probellum. These promoters have some issues and normally the fights won't materialize if it's between them.
We might as well expect that Moloney will be fighting Reymart Gaballo instead for the WBO title.

With that, the next in line is Nawaphon Kaikanha for the WBC title against Donaire but he has an upcoming fight. Next to him will be Alexandro Santiago.
The decision of Astrolabio might be crucial too if he will pursue the IBF title.

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February 08, 2023, 05:43:11 AM
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Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Yes, that's true. Before he ends up his professional career, there has to be a good landing for it so that he'll just take it lightly and won't be feeling for his retirement.
It's in the book that it seems that he really wants to have that beautiful ending like winning first before he gets out of professional boxing. Who knows after this, if he'll also do the same thing like exhibition matches just like what the other retirees did.
I think that is what Donaire is looking for, the best possible ending for the career of any athlete is to retire a champion, that way they will not have any regrets about finally deciding to leave their beloved sport behind, and Donaire has a great opportunity to do exactly this, however according to this article it seems the fight between Donaire and Moloney is already canceled and it is not going to take place.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190

Let see for another update regarding to a vacant belt that Inoue left after deciding to move up to another division, still possible that a fight for Donaire can happen before ending his career or retiring his gloves.

For the meantime, we might here a new name that will be paired for him since the fight that supposedly
against Maloney was already been cancelled.
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February 08, 2023, 08:57:03 AM
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Let see for another update regarding to a vacant belt that Inoue left after deciding to move up to another division, still possible that a fight for Donaire can happen before ending his career or retiring his gloves.
Right, but I'm expecting to see a fight from him this year. He might retire soon so at least he will be able to have more fights before that will happen. It's still too early, who knows, weeks from now we will see in the news that Donaire is up for another opponent for a title fight.

For the meantime, we might here a new name that will be paired for him since the fight that supposedly
against Maloney was already been cancelled.
As long as it's not official, let us not expect too much as you know, this Donaire vs Moloney was canceled and we thought it was already official.
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February 08, 2023, 10:57:36 AM
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Let see for another update regarding to a vacant belt that Inoue left after deciding to move up to another division, still possible that a fight for Donaire can happen before ending his career or retiring his gloves.
Right, but I'm expecting to see a fight from him this year. He might retire soon so at least he will be able to have more fights before that will happen. It's still too early, who knows, weeks from now we will see in the news that Donaire is up for another opponent for a title fight.

For the meantime, we might here a new name that will be paired for him since the fight that supposedly
against Maloney was already been cancelled.
As long as it's not official, let us not expect too much as you know, this Donaire vs Moloney was canceled and we thought it was already official.

Definitely, if Nonito's name is involved for the WBC title, it will be this year, WBC can't wait to have another champion in their weight class, it should be filled right away.

We can see it on the rankings, some good names that Donaire can fight.

But I still see him winning whoever he face in the WBC, Nonito still has the power and can still fight.

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Let see for another update regarding to a vacant belt that Inoue left after deciding to move up to another division, still possible that a fight for Donaire can happen before ending his career or retiring his gloves.
Right, but I'm expecting to see a fight from him this year. He might retire soon so at least he will be able to have more fights before that will happen. It's still too early, who knows, weeks from now we will see in the news that Donaire is up for another opponent for a title fight.

For the meantime, we might here a new name that will be paired for him since the fight that supposedly
against Maloney was already been cancelled.
As long as it's not official, let us not expect too much as you know, this Donaire vs Moloney was canceled and we thought it was already official.

Definitely, if Nonito's name is involved for the WBC title, it will be this year, WBC can't wait to have another champion in their weight class, it should be filled right away.

We can see it on the rankings, some good names that Donaire can fight.

But I still see him winning whoever he face in the WBC, Nonito still has the power and can still fight.

I want to witness that greatness even at his age. The speed might not be there anymore but the power and that amazing hook, if given a chance it can still bring the opponent to kiss the floor.

It will be exciting since the vacant position will be the desire of each fighter who has the opportunity
to take the belt. Donaire is one of those good values for the organization. They can still sell his name and
with his legacy at his age, it can be supported by the fans everywhere.
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February 08, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
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Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.
Yes, that's true. Before he ends up his professional career, there has to be a good landing for it so that he'll just take it lightly and won't be feeling for his retirement.
It's in the book that it seems that he really wants to have that beautiful ending like winning first before he gets out of professional boxing. Who knows after this, if he'll also do the same thing like exhibition matches just like what the other retirees did.
I think that is what Donaire is looking for, the best possible ending for the career of any athlete is to retire a champion, that way they will not have any regrets about finally deciding to leave their beloved sport behind, and Donaire has a great opportunity to do exactly this, however according to this article it seems the fight between Donaire and Moloney is already canceled and it is not going to take place.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190
It's gonna be a graceful retirement if he wins the title first and then takes it out with it. He came from losses and no one wants to have that record of losing before retirement.
Yeah, the match has been canceled already and we're all just waiting on who's going to be ordered to fight him still. He's just waiting for that opponent so that the title match will start already.

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February 08, 2023, 05:56:46 PM
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They are lucky that Inoue decided to move up, otherwise, this division will be owned by Inoue as long as he stays active.

As of this time, there's no clear opponent that Donaire might fight next. No words from Moloney too. Maybe told by his Boss to keep his mouth shut lol.

Or probably they are talking to other promoters on how to settle this one since Moloney or his camp doesn't want Donaire.

And so before Donaire opens his mouth, at least the fight should be 99% in the bag already, no more last second backing up just like what happen here. As for Inoue moving up, it's good for the Donaire, opening up a lot of opportunities for boxers to get a belt.

So let's wait for Donaire or on Moloney side, for sure all bodies are looking to have a fight as all the belts are open now. They immediately need a champion.


Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.

This fight was ordered already by the WBC (https://www.fightsports.tv/jason-moloney-vs-nonito-donaire-confirmed-for-vacant-bantamweight-championship/). But due to several reasons, even if WBC somewhat 'imposed' it, the fight fell off.

No one is backing down from this fight, it's only their promoters who doesn't want them to fight.

So now they have other options. And Donaire, since he is rank second behind Moloney, he has the greater chances to fight for the WBC belt since Moloney is the one who back down from it.

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February 08, 2023, 06:41:14 PM
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He's known for that.

He won't back out when the fight is already about to happen. And knowing that he's quite near to his farewell for his career, he'd do everything to win whoever will be assigned to fight him.

He deserves a crack because he is rank higher in WBC or even in WBA.

And then we know that he can still pull the trigger against this young fighters in this division, it's that Inoue is too good for everyone including Nonito. But if you are going to pit him with the rest of the rank fighters, I think Donaire will beat majority of them or even score a knockout. It's that he is under the management of Probellum and Moloney's manager doesn't want to work with that promotion.
Well, too quick that Moloney has responded with a no to this match.

Still searching for the next selection for this match. Yeah, Inoue was just too good and has beaten him twice but since then, it seems that there are no other boxers on the same division that might be on par with him even on his age now.

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