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Nonito the Filipino flash Donaire will came back to the and fight Jason Moloney as we all know how this fighter hadle his opponent during the fight day. Maloney is one of the best fighter and also he has a big advantage as we all know that Donaire is getting Older . But I think Donaire will prove that he can play and win by his age he can still be a champion. For me in this fight Ill choose Donaire to win the match ad Donaire has many experience
Well, we all know Donaire's limitations that many put on him, which is his age, I really don't see limitations for him, for me a boxer who has a lot of experience needs to be much more careful when fighting, because He knows how to handle his times because he knows what his capabilities are, from what I've seen Malooney is one of the toughest fighters and he has a lot to offer, it's something that is unique, it's also nice that Nonito is up against one of the best boxers What they have for now, if Nonito manages to win this fight, he will put a number of events at his disposal, this is what he is looking for now, fame to launch himself to success.
Much has been speculated about Donaire, now wait for another designated boxer? Jason Moloney, Top Rank To No Longer Pursue WBC Title; Nonito Donaire Awaits Next Named OpponentNonito Donaire will need a new dance partner in pursuit of a fourth bantamweight title.
BoxingScene.com has confirmed Jason Moloney—through promoter Top Rank—has broken away from talks to face Donaire for the vacant WBC bantamweight title. The development comes well ahead of the February 17 deadline assigned to a matchup that was more than months in the making.
“The WBC has received confirmation from Top Rank that [Moloney] will not be fighting for The WBC bantamweight title,” WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed to the teams for both boxers via official letter, a copy of which was obtained by BoxingScene.com. “With this letter the process of [Moloney] vs Donaire is hereby cancelled." Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190
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Nonito the Filipino flash Donaire will came back to the and fight Jason Moloney as we all know how this fighter hadle his opponent during the fight day. Maloney is one of the best fighter and also he has a big advantage as we all know that Donaire is getting Older . But I think Donaire will prove that he can play and win by his age he can still be a champion. For me in this fight Ill choose Donaire to win the match ad Donaire has many experience
Well, we all know Donaire's limitations that many put on him, which is his age, I really don't see limitations for him, for me a boxer who has a lot of experience needs to be much more careful when fighting, because He knows how to handle his times because he knows what his capabilities are, from what I've seen Malooney is one of the toughest fighters and he has a lot to offer, it's something that is unique, it's also nice that Nonito is up against one of the best boxers What they have for now, if Nonito manages to win this fight, he will put a number of events at his disposal, this is what he is looking for now, fame to launch himself to success.
Much has been speculated about Donaire, now wait for another designated boxer? Jason Moloney, Top Rank To No Longer Pursue WBC Title; Nonito Donaire Awaits Next Named OpponentNonito Donaire will need a new dance partner in pursuit of a fourth bantamweight title.
BoxingScene.com has confirmed Jason Moloney—through promoter Top Rank—has broken away from talks to face Donaire for the vacant WBC bantamweight title. The development comes well ahead of the February 17 deadline assigned to a matchup that was more than months in the making.
“The WBC has received confirmation from Top Rank that [Moloney] will not be fighting for The WBC bantamweight title,” WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman confirmed to the teams for both boxers via official letter, a copy of which was obtained by BoxingScene.com. “With this letter the process of [Moloney] vs Donaire is hereby cancelled." Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/jason-moloney-top-rank-no-longer-pursue-wbc-title-nonito-donaire-awaits-next-named-opponent--172190Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
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February 08, 2023, 08:46:22 PM |
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Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
that's what pride is. they will stick to what they want up until the event won't push thru. anyway, donaire should not wait any longer as he knows he's not getting any younger. for the next opponent who wants to challenge, just accept it. the purse split should be the secondary consideration. because if he will be picky, he maybe past his golden years anymore.
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February 08, 2023, 09:28:15 PM |
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Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
that's what pride is. they will stick to what they want up until the event won't push thru. anyway, donaire should not wait any longer as he knows he's not getting any younger. for the next opponent who wants to challenge, just accept it. the purse split should be the secondary consideration. because if he will be picky, he maybe past his golden years anymore. There's no time to be picky as for Donaire which is true that he isnt getting any younger as years passing on which it would be ideal that he would be accepting for whatever challenge or match arrangements. When it comes to purse split then there are others which are really that too much in concern about these partitions and if they do find out that it wont be worth or not really that something fair then they do really just back off and ignore on possible offers which is sad.I agree into that point about pride which we know that someone would really be sticking into that no matter what happens.
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February 09, 2023, 10:39:42 AM |
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Earlier, Moloney and his team were excited to face Donaire and hoped to bring the fight to Australia. Things changed though when Moloney's promoter Bob Arum said that he do not want to deal with Donaire's promoter Probellum due to its connections with the Irish crimelord Daniel Kinahan. Personally, I am doubtful about Arum's alibi. Maybe Arum just wanted an easier opponent for Moloney.
I think Donaire has no choice because he is not ranked in the top 3 of the other sanctioning bodies. He will have to wait for the WBC's official statement as to who will be his opponent for the vacant belt. WBC ranked 3 is Nawaphon Sor Rungvisai but the Thai is scheduled for February 25. Maybe the WBC and Donaire will wait for the result but what if the Thai lose that one?
Ranked 4 is Raymart Gaballo whom Donaire already beat. But Gaballo is also ranked 4th by the WBO which means he is likely to face WBO #1 Moloney since ranked 2 and 3 Rodriguez and Astrolabio are already mandated by the IBF to start its negotiations. I think we will just have to wait here as even both Rodriguez and Astrolabio are not guaranteed to happen as they are also ranked high in the other sanctioning bodies.
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February 09, 2023, 10:50:01 AM |
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Earlier, Moloney and his team were excited to face Donaire and hoped to bring the fight to Australia. Things changed though when Moloney's promoter Bob Arum said that he do not want to deal with Donaire's promoter Probellum due to its connections with the Irish crimelord Daniel Kinahan. Personally, I am doubtful about Arum's alibi. Maybe Arum just wanted an easier opponent for Moloney.
Exactly, because they should have not made an announcement that they'll fight Inoue if they know that fact in the first place. I mean, the decision of Moloney's camp is still up to the approval of their promoter, so they'll not say anything that they'll cancel in the end, it's just not good for their reputation. Bob Arum is good in looking for easy opponent of his fighter, you know, he wants to make them a cash cow so that money will continue to flow.
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February 09, 2023, 12:12:26 PM |
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Earlier, Moloney and his team were excited to face Donaire and hoped to bring the fight to Australia. Things changed though when Moloney's promoter Bob Arum said that he do not want to deal with Donaire's promoter Probellum due to its connections with the Irish crimelord Daniel Kinahan. Personally, I am doubtful about Arum's alibi. Maybe Arum just wanted an easier opponent for Moloney.
Exactly, because they should have not made an announcement that they'll fight Inoue if they know that fact in the first place. I mean, the decision of Moloney's camp is still up to the approval of their promoter, so they'll not say anything that they'll cancel in the end, it's just not good for their reputation. Bob Arum is good in looking for easy opponent of his fighter, you know, he wants to make them a cash cow so that money will continue to flow. Nothing to say about Bob Arum, he's really good in picking his champ's opponent, a cash cow that will bring him more money fight. If they negotiate this fight, for sure Arum see money that their camp might be earning. But it might be another thing that Arum see that's why he change the direction of this anticipated fight.
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February 09, 2023, 03:34:00 PM |
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Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
Now they are waiting a new opponent who will fight Nonito Donaire. For me it's a bad news when we heard about the fight with Jason moloney and Nonito Donaire we all know that how we expected for this fight because of their performance who actually for sure brings us a good and a toe to toe fight but when They canceled then for now we will wait if who will be the next opponent of nonito donaire.
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February 09, 2023, 10:22:30 PM |
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Now they are waiting a new opponent who will fight Nonito Donaire. For me it's a bad news when we heard about the fight with Jason moloney and Nonito Donaire we all know that how we expected for this fight because of their performance who actually for sure brings us a good and a toe to toe fight but when They canceled then for now we will wait if who will be the next opponent of nonito donaire.
It was news that disappointed everyone including you and me. But there is nothing we can do about it if they don't agree to fight together even if it was an order to them. Those who have been monitoring the possible match-up for Donaire, do you already have seen who's the next potential match after Moloney canceled it? How many are they're considering for this one slot?
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February 10, 2023, 01:58:49 AM |
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Now they are waiting a new opponent who will fight Nonito Donaire. For me it's a bad news when we heard about the fight with Jason moloney and Nonito Donaire we all know that how we expected for this fight because of their performance who actually for sure brings us a good and a toe to toe fight but when They canceled then for now we will wait if who will be the next opponent of nonito donaire.
It was news that disappointed everyone including you and me. But there is nothing we can do about it if they don't agree to fight together even if it was an order to them. Those who have been monitoring the possible match-up for Donaire, do you already have seen who's the next potential match after Moloney canceled it? How many are they're considering for this one slot? There's nothing we can do but to wait for the news of the possible fight of Donaire. He is not a champion now but in a good ranking, so most likely he will find an opponent for that vacant belt left by Inoue. It was really a disappointment as we thought we will again see Donaire fight again, it could be a good test for him if he would still remain active or will just hang up his gloves.
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February 10, 2023, 02:09:04 AM |
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Now they are waiting a new opponent who will fight Nonito Donaire. For me it's a bad news when we heard about the fight with Jason moloney and Nonito Donaire we all know that how we expected for this fight because of their performance who actually for sure brings us a good and a toe to toe fight but when They canceled then for now we will wait if who will be the next opponent of nonito donaire.
It was news that disappointed everyone including you and me. But there is nothing we can do about it if they don't agree to fight together even if it was an order to them. Those who have been monitoring the possible match-up for Donaire, do you already have seen who's the next potential match after Moloney canceled it? How many are they're considering for this one slot? There's nothing we can do but to wait for the news of the possible fight of Donaire. He is not a champion now but in a good ranking, so most likely he will find an opponent for that vacant belt left by Inoue. It was really a disappointment as we thought we will again see Donaire fight again, it could be a good test for him if he would still remain active or will just hang up his gloves. Yes, for now his ranking, 2nd, is good enough for the WBC to make him as their boxer to fight for the belt that Inoue left. So regardless, he will be in the discussion for the belt again. Hopefully this is done this year, the WBC can't wait for their weight class to have no champion. For sure whatever happens in the next fight of Donaire, all his decision will be based on that. Whether we want to continue despite a loss, but a win will automatically make him defend that belt.
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February 10, 2023, 02:40:33 AM |
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For sure whatever happens in the next fight of Donaire, all his decision will be based on that. Whether we want to continue despite a loss, but a win will automatically make him defend that belt.
I don't think it's a good idea to continue if he lose, maybe that depends on how he lose in the fight, if it was a close one and he is not convince that he lose, then most likely he will look for another fight, however, will the promoter still be interested in giving him the fight considering his ranking will drop after another lose?
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February 10, 2023, 09:30:53 PM |
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Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
that's what pride is. they will stick to what they want up until the event won't push thru. anyway, donaire should not wait any longer as he knows he's not getting any younger. for the next opponent who wants to challenge, just accept it. the purse split should be the secondary consideration. because if he will be picky, he maybe past his golden years anymore. Yes, I share the same mate. Nonito Donaire should've processed the situation thoroughly because the time is not on his side anymore and he needed to have a dance partner to have the chance of being a champion once again. Their camp should just agree to have the 40% slice of the pie because their first and foremost goal this time is not to make money and that is to be a champion again before considering a retirement to have a good exit.
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February 10, 2023, 10:02:19 PM |
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Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
that's what pride is. they will stick to what they want up until the event won't push thru. anyway, donaire should not wait any longer as he knows he's not getting any younger. for the next opponent who wants to challenge, just accept it. the purse split should be the secondary consideration. because if he will be picky, he maybe past his golden years anymore. I do not think it is pride, I think Moloney thinks that he has no chance of winning against Donaire so he opt out of the fight. There is a possibility that a fellow Filipino can be an opponent of Donaire for the vacant title since there is some Filipinos who is on the top ranking and is eligible to fight for the vacant championship belt. Whoever Donaire's opponent is, I agree that it should be scheduled asap since Donaire is not getting any younger.
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Yes, the Donaire vs Moloney bout is already cancelled because the latter suddenly withdrew from the discussion. We don't know the reasons yet as both camps haven't disclosed some information regarding why their discussion has ceased but as per speculations, both camp did have an issue about the slice of the pie. Either camp isn't willing to receive less as in this bout, they are both equal. Now, Nonito Donaire and his camp is on a waiting game again.
that's what pride is. they will stick to what they want up until the event won't push thru. anyway, donaire should not wait any longer as he knows he's not getting any younger. for the next opponent who wants to challenge, just accept it. the purse split should be the secondary consideration. because if he will be picky, he maybe past his golden years anymore. I do not think it is pride, I think Moloney thinks that he has no chance of winning against Donaire so he opt out of the fight. There is a possibility that a fellow Filipino can be an opponent of Donaire for the vacant title since there is some Filipinos who is on the top ranking and is eligible to fight for the vacant championship belt. Whoever Donaire's opponent is, I agree that it should be scheduled asap since Donaire is not getting any younger. Yeah, probably he doesn't want to take that risk and lost to Nonito in a world title bout and maybe this is what the camp advises him. Or what Bob Arum has been circulating around, he doesn't want to deal with Probellum, simply as that. Donaire has face Gaballo, another Filipino for the title and he beat him with a knockout. I think it's better if he would face another nationality, again as I have said, Thailand's Nawaphon Sor. Rungvisai or PR's pride Emmanuel Rodriguez (who beat Jason Moloney).
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February 10, 2023, 10:54:52 PM |
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Yeah, probably he doesn't want to take that risk and lost to Nonito in a world title bout and maybe this is what the camp advises him. Or what Bob Arum has been circulating around, he doesn't want to deal with Probellum, simply as that.
Donaire has face Gaballo, another Filipino for the title and he beat him with a knockout.
I think it's better if he would face another nationality, again as I have said, Thailand's Nawaphon Sor. Rungvisai or PR's pride Emmanuel Rodriguez (who beat Jason Moloney).
So we are not going to see this fight happens for now? I'm not updated on this news but i will just speculate that it is the camp of Moloney who opted out of this fight because from the start they are not keen on fight the Filipino Flash, maybe they are aware that their boy will loss to Nonito. I've even seen videos on Youtube that Moloney has called WBC to convince them to install him as the champion when Inoue vacated that belt. Donaire vs Rodriguez will be a good one, at least we see our champ fights again.
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February 11, 2023, 03:42:04 AM |
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Yeah, probably he doesn't want to take that risk and lost to Nonito in a world title bout and maybe this is what the camp advises him. Or what Bob Arum has been circulating around, he doesn't want to deal with Probellum, simply as that.
Donaire has face Gaballo, another Filipino for the title and he beat him with a knockout.
I think it's better if he would face another nationality, again as I have said, Thailand's Nawaphon Sor. Rungvisai or PR's pride Emmanuel Rodriguez (who beat Jason Moloney).
So we are not going to see this fight happens for now? I'm not updated on this news but i will just speculate that it is the camp of Moloney who opted out of this fight because from the start they are not keen on fight the Filipino Flash, maybe they are aware that their boy will loss to Nonito. I've even seen videos on Youtube that Moloney has called WBC to convince them to install him as the champion when Inoue vacated that belt. Donaire vs Rodriguez will be a good one, at least we see our champ fights again. According to the reports I have read there was never too much of a chance for this fight to happen as there are simply too many belts for the taking, so Moloney is going to take the less risky path, get himself a belt and then see how he can earn the most money that way, besides Moloney is younger so he could just wait until the physical capabilities of Donaire drop and then take an easier fight against him.
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February 11, 2023, 07:47:07 AM |
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For sure whatever happens in the next fight of Donaire, all his decision will be based on that. Whether we want to continue despite a loss, but a win will automatically make him defend that belt.
I don't think it's a good idea to continue if he lose, maybe that depends on how he lose in the fight, if it was a close one and he is not convince that he lose, then most likely he will look for another fight, however, will the promoter still be interested in giving him the fight considering his ranking will drop after another lose? Even in the Inoue fight, we all know that he was knockout cold, he didn't even know that he was knockout according to him and yet he is going to fight. Even before this opportunity, he is willing to go down to 115 lbs and fight Estrada, that's even dangerous to go down in weight because of his age but he insist because he thinks that he can still fight. So I will assume that base on that facts, even if he losses this one, he might have a last chance to go and fight for the belt in other division. This is just WBC, there are still bodies that he is rank. Promoters will always be interested, even boxers, and I would say besides Naoya, Nonito is the most recognized bantamweight, and so it is good to have his name in the resume of young fighters that is currently in the division.
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bisdak40
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February 11, 2023, 11:46:54 AM |
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Yeah, probably he doesn't want to take that risk and lost to Nonito in a world title bout and maybe this is what the camp advises him. Or what Bob Arum has been circulating around, he doesn't want to deal with Probellum, simply as that.
Donaire has face Gaballo, another Filipino for the title and he beat him with a knockout.
I think it's better if he would face another nationality, again as I have said, Thailand's Nawaphon Sor. Rungvisai or PR's pride Emmanuel Rodriguez (who beat Jason Moloney).
So we are not going to see this fight happens for now? I'm not updated on this news but i will just speculate that it is the camp of Moloney who opted out of this fight because from the start they are not keen on fight the Filipino Flash, maybe they are aware that their boy will loss to Nonito. I've even seen videos on Youtube that Moloney has called WBC to convince them to install him as the champion when Inoue vacated that belt. Donaire vs Rodriguez will be a good one, at least we see our champ fights again. According to the reports I have read there was never too much of a chance for this fight to happen as there are simply too many belts for the taking, so Moloney is going to take the less risky path, get himself a belt and then see how he can earn the most money that way, besides Moloney is younger so he could just wait until the physical capabilities of Donaire drop and then take an easier fight against him. Just read that the cause of the breakout of the agreement to stage this fight is not Moloney dodging Donaire but a political thing, i mean Top Rank which handles Moloney refuses to stage this fight against Donaire which is promoted by Probellum. Top Rank and Probellum particularly Richard Schaefer are not in good terms so yeah definitely this fight is not a go. Also read that Donaire might be facing Mexico's Alexandro Santiago for that WBC version of the bantamweight belt.
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February 11, 2023, 11:53:35 AM |
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Also read that Donaire might be facing Mexico's Alexandro Santiago for that WBC version of the bantamweight belt.
That's a better opponent for him I believe. Alexandro Santiago has 3 losses and not a KO artist, so as long as he will not face a fighter like Inoue, this chance to win is higher. Though Alexandro Santiago is the younger fighter with 27 years of age, but the experience of Donaire is too much and this young boxer won't be able to handle it. Also, the height is only 5′ 2½″ , that's the kind of target Donaire wants to KO.
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