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January 28, 2023, 09:58:34 PM |
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This scenario is hard to come by only a few can pull it off but I'm sure even if he has won at his first lucky break playing in the casino he will come back with the winnings with a few dollars left and play again expecting the same win but that is unlikely to happen again due to luck It won't come all the time, and I don't think the casino house can be beat in that scenario.
Second point I don't know if anyone has managed to do this but basically I don't think it's possible for him to try with $200 and then expect to win hundreds of thousands of dollars in the process of playing, so I say this scenario can't just go away for sure he will return no matter what the victory.
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January 28, 2023, 09:59:21 PM |
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Yes that's a strategy to beat casino but with extreme low probability that is not paid with high enough reward (poor risk/reward ratio) so its not the strategy that can be used for anyone because on average 60 out of 100 will not even double before loosing everything. So its not like every person who starts wins and only those who stays long enough in casino are losing. Some lose everything without being in a profit even a penny. It's a myth that new gamblers (first time in a casino) are luckier than others.
Casino is a place to have fun and feel extreme emotions. Not a place to easily win first million.
I agree. Those scenarios did beat the casino but if you come to think of it, it’s rare to happen that if you just got lucky and earn thousands of dollars while your are starting gambling, you will just walk away outside casino instead of playing more to chase more profits and to chase more of your luck. Some even end up lose everything they have won because their urge to gamble becomes uncontrollable. That proves that at the end of the day, it’s always the casino that keeps an edge over the players.
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January 28, 2023, 10:01:28 PM |
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...
Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..
Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino? You never beat the house, you just beat your urge and your addiction to gambling its hard to do this, winning a huge amount and then not coming back to gamble again, its almost 100% that if you win a huge amount, you almost come back and try your luck again, that's what makes gambling addicted and exciting because you can actually win a big amount Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
This is rare but if someone can do that congratulations to him, he can say that to himself as long as he is not coming back to play, but the house always wins maybe not you, maybe not now, but once you come back even if it takes weeks or months the house will beat you and it ll win, its always a matter of time.
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January 28, 2023, 10:11:18 PM |
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...
Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..
Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
Bro for me, I Dont think any one can do that, i mean you cant fucking the cheat the whole process@the house. If you won that kind of money in your first try as a gambler that only means one thing which is continuous playing and trying more times on the casino. Maybe for the that little moment that you won the money, you can hold back a bit but am very certain you are still going to go back and play on more. I can remember one of my guy who luckily won a hundred thousand buck on his first try and he also made similar comments and vow saying never to try gambling again but he couldn't keep up instead it made him gamble more with higher stakes
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January 28, 2023, 10:18:40 PM |
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Beating the house depends how you see it. If those scenarios will make you think that you've beaten them then that's it.
But if that's not satisfying to you then you'll still have to find a way of beating them with the most satisfying way that you can ever be. Anyway, with such thinking of beating them and running away from them with your profit.
I find it as a success that you should really be celebrating and even more if you've ever had to start with that money with your business. That's one of the most satisfying scenario for real.
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January 28, 2023, 10:29:11 PM |
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Lol, Am gone through every comment and I must say that i enjoyed the the conversation so far, To add, i personally know that the scenarios i mentioned is (though very possible to happen) unlikely, at least, I know a someone who won close to $7000 on his second day of gambling, he started the first day and gambled away $15, after about 2 weeks, he came back to the same casino, deposited $100 and started playing one of this pragmatic games, betting random amount on each round of the game, he got luck and won over 15 free rounds, through this rounds, he won several multipliers and that was how he's total winning amount to $6,879, that is a lot of money if converted to my countries currency, I advised him to withdraw that money and start a business with it, and forget about gambling, he did obey, started a business but later went into gambling again without me knowing, I only got to know that he went back to gambling when I saw that he's business wasn't doing well as it suppose, I tried inquiring from him what's going on, he later opened up to me that he lost over $2000 on sports betting some weeks back, and the loss is affecting his business.
This was how the idea of this thread came by.
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January 28, 2023, 10:30:51 PM |
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...
Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..
Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
This isnt beating the house just because you had just made out some profits on those sessions which it cant be called on beating up the house because its an another story because thats not how it works. If you do see it up that way then so be it but its not beating up the house.You are just wise that you do made out some hit and run kind of step which you do ensure out your profits which is a wise move and the best thing is that you do able to make out some investment or made out some business with those wins and never returned your back yourself in the house. Beating up the house is impossible but on this way then at least you do make out a right choice.
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January 28, 2023, 10:39:56 PM |
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As long as you are not coming back to play and you've used that money to improve your life and your family then you're good and you can say that you did beat the house, now the real fight is urging yourself not to go back to gambling again, because like a ghost it keeps haunting you to come back and play again, and this is the hardest fight to win because it will keep playing in your mind that you can do it again, and when you come back even if playing with a small amount, that's where the house will slowly get your winning.
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January 28, 2023, 11:16:36 PM |
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You're both examples are really sure instances but one thing with me is the fact that I don't like living in assumption and that's why I prefer everything I'm getting involved with be active rather than in assumptions. If we could be truthful and sincere to ourselves then you'll understand that working is boring and when you calculate your monthly salary in 12 months isn't even enough to live a better life and suddenly your star shined in you on a fateful day and you want to get everything done so that people would believe. I really don't see hitting and running as actually a nice approach to getting a casino appreciate ones work, and I have no issue with someone who won a huge some of money and left the casino for a long while before coming back to gamble again and maybe his absence was as a result of him building his life so rather than gamble away the money I won maybe I would take a break from the internet
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January 28, 2023, 11:41:12 PM |
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Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
Seriously, why do you consider both scenarios as beating the house? The scenarios you have mentioned are just one of the common approaches when somebody wins at the casino. Technically, winning profits at a casino doesn't mean you literally beat the house. In other words, with that winnings, the house even favors you, and be thankful for that. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Now up to you if you will continue or not.
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January 28, 2023, 11:46:05 PM |
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With gambling you'll experience loss for sure. It can happen in the long run or at the beginning itself. With most of the gamblers they'll have early day luck. People who use it in the right way and makes an exit will enjoy it and some out of greed losses in the same day. Just because one have won and withdrawn the winning doesn't mean he have beaten the house.
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January 29, 2023, 02:13:23 AM |
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Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
Both questions are similar, you won, quit and use the money to build business. In this case, you're one lucky gambler to win because majority of gamblers are losing than winning. However in reality, if a gambler win huge amount in a particular casino, it is hard already to refrain ourselves from playing again because we already experience to win (In this example it's a huge amount). So you are tempted to try your luck again until you won't notice that your winnings from the past are draining because of your desire to win, it's just a usual case. But probably some gamblers are able to quit after winning huge (so kudos to them). Nevertheless, gamblers who have such mindset to completely stop after winning huge and leave the gambling world to have a fresh start are fortunate to control themselves and think of much better thing to do with their winnings.
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January 29, 2023, 03:40:23 AM |
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Lol, Am gone through every comment and I must say that i enjoyed the the conversation so far, To add, i personally know that the scenarios i mentioned is (though very possible to happen) unlikely, at least, I know a someone who won close to $7000 on his second day of gambling, he started the first day and gambled away $15, after about 2 weeks, he came back to the same casino, deposited $100 and started playing one of this pragmatic games, betting random amount on each round of the game, he got luck and won over 15 free rounds, through this rounds, he won several multipliers and that was how he's total winning amount to $6,879, that is a lot of money if converted to my countries currency, I advised him to withdraw that money and start a business with it, and forget about gambling, he did obey, started a business but later went into gambling again without me knowing, I only got to know that he went back to gambling when I saw that he's business wasn't doing well as it suppose, I tried inquiring from him what's going on, he later opened up to me that he lost over $2000 on sports betting some weeks back, and the loss is affecting his business.
This was how the idea of this thread came by.
Sorry to say this, but your friend was greedy and paid the price for his greediness... He should have been thankful for his lucky, that allowed him to collect an enough budget to start his own business. From that moment on, he just needed to focus on his business, like you advised him. However, businesses' profit come slower, so patience is required. Maybe he got excited about the previous winnings at the casino and compared to the income he was making through his business and decided to continue gambling for fast profits, what inevitably resulted in losses after a while. Now let's hope he can get aware of his mistakes and save his business while there is still time (and money) left.
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January 29, 2023, 03:44:32 AM |
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...
Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..
Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
Obviously it is, but you have to think that maybe you won against the house by thousands of dollars, but there are gamblers who may have lost thousands too and the accumulation could be worth millions, so it's not that you really won against them. On the other hand, it's beginners luck, and most likely that gambler will fall to the same agendas as the rest of us. Gamble the second day because he thinks he can still win more and then lose everything including his capital and then he turns into a addicted one.
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January 29, 2023, 04:55:44 AM |
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...
Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..
Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
You are correct on your conclusion, if a person which has never gambled before makes a lot of money and then they can keep themselves away from gambling for the rest of their lives, it can be said they have beaten the casino. But it is obvious what the problem with this strategy is, and that is you are dependent on your luck, there is no way to know beforehand if you will be one of the few gamblers which can obtain those results immediately, so if you try to perform this strategy the most likely outcome is you will fail and lose money instead.
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January 29, 2023, 05:00:24 AM |
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Both your scenario is correct on beating the house. In general, Beating the house means you are in profit for your overall gambling portfolio regardless if you came back or not as long as you maintain the positive portfolio then you can safely assume you beat the house. It’s very rare for a user even for beginner to have an early then never comeback because the adrenaline from excitement of winning will surely push him to play more to win more money. Your scenario will be good if all newbie that will experience early luck will never come back gambling again but of course casino will be on the tight spot. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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January 29, 2023, 06:50:00 AM |
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Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Yes you have beaten the casino in that way. On the other hand, you have beaten the casino, but for other gamblers, they aren't so it like you won money and then somebody lost that money so the casino is kinda equal on that. Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
Same answer as the first one. As long as you go away winning and never returned to gambling, obviously you can say that you beat the house on that. Unfortunately, only few people have this kind of mindset where they will go away and never return to gamble once they won a huge amount of money. Most of the gamblers? They always come back and want to win more money and because of that, they will lose more money instead of winning more money.
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January 29, 2023, 06:58:19 AM |
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...
Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..
Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
I rarely see gamblers like this when they win they will leave the game and make a business, what usually happens is they keep on playing until the winning money runs out again, because usually people never get away from greed, after all it's only 0.001% to be able to beat the house ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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January 29, 2023, 07:30:06 AM |
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...
Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..
Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
I already did the second, winning a big amount with a small bet, withdrawing it, and promised not to come back playing again investing it in Cryptocurrency, but a gambler is always a gambler, you have certain guilt for not giving yourself more opportunities because you already did it thinking that you beat the house, but when I got back in betting I have a long losing streak and I'm actually chasing losses, so I make it a point to allocate a small portion from then if I win its good and if I lose I'm ok with as long as I'm not chasing loses.
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January 29, 2023, 07:30:56 AM |
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Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house? Theoretically this sounds like a way to "beat the house", but there are several things to keep in mind: 1.The player needs to be extremely lucky. 2.The player needs very good skills(when it comes to games like poker). 3.The casino must be legit and paying all winnings without any problems. 4.The player must have really good self-control, so that he will quit after withdrawing his winnings and never return back. Most people are greedy, they always want more and more. Winning big amount of money from a casino would incentivize the gambler to keep gambling on that casino(at some point he will lose everything). 5.What if the casino "bribes" the gambler with a generous bonus, so that the gambler starts betting again and loses his money?
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