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January 30, 2023, 07:14:27 AM
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...

Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..

Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?

Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?
All the scenarios you illustrated are surely a demonstration of hit and run, and by doing that the person has personally beaten the said casinos. But the saying goes beyond that. Saying that, "the house always wins" in gambling does not refer to a single player, it referees to the overall activities of the house. They don't lose, many activities might favour them and others might not, but in the end, they go home with bags full of money.

Their programs/activities have been designed to their advantage, that's just it, they can't be beaten.

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January 30, 2023, 08:06:03 AM
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Those with such mentality never hit such luck, rather they kept loosing while they are trying to target a particular entry or winning from a casino. Actually nothing wrong with this strategy but it's rear to have such an opportunity maybe I can say is a day your Maker have decided to blessed you.
If you make such winning, is best advisable you should leave the casino or the gambling site for some days otherwise the said money might ended up with losing it back to the casino again due to over excitement could cause it or having this confident you might get another great entry.

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January 30, 2023, 09:28:23 AM
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Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?

In both your cases the gambler successfully beats the casino and if he manages to hold on to his winnings he is a lucky gambler. The thing about the saying "the casino always wins" is not correct about every individual gambler, it's true about a large group of gamblers. In any casino game the house has its edge to make sure they make money in the long run. The winning chance of the casino is higher than that of us gamblers, which doesn't mean that we can't win. The casino needs a larger number of losers than winners to remain profitable and not to bankrupt. So when ever you make a huge win it makes sense to withdraw at least some of the winning and save it. The real question is if you are willing to bet all your money on a risky. I remember the story of an English fella who sold his house and bet everything on a single roulette spin. Luckily he won and doubled his money. I would never have the stomach to bet so much on a single bet. Another thing is that many people enjoy gambling and won't stay away for ever.
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January 30, 2023, 09:31:23 AM
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It's definitely true that winning big in a casino is a rare occurrence, and it's even rarer for someone to stop gambling after their big win. The odds of winning big are already slim, and casinos are designed to keep you playing for as long as possible, with free food, drinks, and a lack of clocks to keep you distracted. And online gambling is even more attractive since there is nothing stop us from making a bet

It's vital to keep in mind that gambling is something that should be done sparingly and only if one is fully aware of the potential consequences. It's critical to create a budget and keep to it so that you don't waste money or overpay. It is also crucial to realize that the house will always have the edge in the long run, regardless of how much money you earn in the short term.

Though, there's something to be said about taking part in gambling's thrills without falling into addiction. There's no harm in testing your luck sometimes if you can do so and still have a good time without breaking the bank. If things aren't going your way, it's important to know when to cut your losses and walk away.

If the gambler simply pays for entertainment, then it's basically just a paid game really.

As long as the gambler can stop whenever the expected money runs out, then it's all good.

The issue is that a gambler can lose way more money than when playing a paid game.

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January 30, 2023, 09:37:47 AM
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This is a completely legitimate way to beat the casino. To some extent, winning such a large sum of money in gambling is extremely unlikely. Gamblers have this feeling that once they win one, they'll want to put all of their money, including the profit, back in and play to win more, but to their greatest surprise, they lose everything. People who have the mindset of winning big and never coming back are always the unlucky ones to hit the jackpot big enough to cash out in a single trial.

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January 30, 2023, 09:56:54 AM
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Hit and Run tactics wont beat casinos. If someone thinks, that, for example, he can deposit, get a welcome bonus, play few 1.0x bets to meet wagering requirement and withdraw, and beat casino with, then he is wrong. With that, you can harm casinos profit for few hundreds, but there will always be on your place 5-10 other gamblers that loose. The casino will get its profit in different place. Casino and gamblers is like hydras head - you kill one head, two new appear. If there would be a way to beat casinos, there wont have them new opened every week.

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January 30, 2023, 10:50:08 AM
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Hit and Run tactics wont beat casinos. If someone thinks, that, for example, he can deposit, get a welcome bonus, play few 1.0x bets to meet wagering requirement and withdraw, and beat casino with, then he is wrong. With that, you can harm casinos profit for few hundreds, but there will always be on your place 5-10 other gamblers that loose. The casino will get its profit in different place. Casino and gamblers is like hydras head - you kill one head, two new appear. If there would be a way to beat casinos, there wont have them new opened every week.

Some people actually manage to win against the casinos.

For example, David Walsh

Of course it was easier to do so in the early days, nowadays things are a bit more complicated.

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January 30, 2023, 11:00:46 AM
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This is a completely legitimate way to beat the casino. To some extent, winning such a large sum of money in gambling is extremely unlikely. Gamblers have this feeling that once they win one, they'll want to put all of their money, including the profit, back in and play to win more, but to their greatest surprise, they lose everything. People who have the mindset of winning big and never coming back are always the unlucky ones to hit the jackpot big enough to cash out in a single trial.
What happens is they lose after they put in all their money, which doesn't give them any winnings. The situation reversed rapidly, and it was time for the casino to take all the winnings from that gambler. People who think a hit-and-run strategy will work should realize that they cannot hope to do so because the situation will change instantly. They must also think that the casino will not simply let them withdraw their winnings before fulfilling all the conditions.

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January 30, 2023, 11:09:41 AM
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This is a completely legitimate way to beat the casino. To some extent, winning such a large sum of money in gambling is extremely unlikely. Gamblers have this feeling that once they win one, they'll want to put all of their money, including the profit, back in and play to win more, but to their greatest surprise, they lose everything. People who have the mindset of winning big and never coming back are always the unlucky ones to hit the jackpot big enough to cash out in a single trial.
What happens is they lose after they put in all their money, which doesn't give them any winnings. The situation reversed rapidly, and it was time for the casino to take all the winnings from that gambler. People who think a hit-and-run strategy will work should realize that they cannot hope to do so because the situation will change instantly. They must also think that the casino will not simply let them withdraw their winnings before fulfilling all the conditions.
According to OP. The scenario he painted was that there is no losing for the person. You played and you also won big. But the OP didn't put into consideration what happens since the gambler started gambling. Was it the first time for the gambler to gamble?
In one way or the other the gambler must have lost in some ways to other casino. You may have beaten the house immediately but no overall.

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January 30, 2023, 11:33:04 AM
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Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?

When one will won, he would consider himself lucky and he'll continue playing so that he could win more. Even if he's smart enough and he withdraws all the money, most probably he'll come back someday to win again. (Because in his opinion this is an easy way to make money and when he'll come back he will lose that money or even more)

What happens is they lose after they put in all their money, which doesn't give them any winnings
If it's was his first time and he lose his money then i don't think he/she will ever dare to Gamble as he would consider himself unlucky and will stay away from it.
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January 30, 2023, 11:41:40 AM
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Yes. If you can turn your back after winning then you are a real winner and you totally beat the house.
But that's kind of hard right? It will keep on calling you to gamble more because luck may be on your side, sometimes it can even visit you in your dreams just to remind you to go back.
If you lack greediness though, it can be truly achieved. It requires some intense mental choice for a gambler to not go back. There may have been some stories of it like lottery winners, but I have not seen/heard of one who won in a casino and completely stopped playing again for a long time just to invest it for business or other stuff.

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Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?
How about the sentence that gambling does not recognize newcomers?

Yesterday I just did this on one of the gambling sites. I created an account then made a deposit. In one of the available slots I played with a small bet and then I increased the bet amount. Maybe because I was considered a new player, I won 70% of the deposit amount. Without thinking I made a withdrawal and left the slot.

It was just luck on my side or maybe they got me hooked by letting me win.
Do you think I've beaten them with what I've done?

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Hit and Run tactics wont beat casinos. If someone thinks, that, for example, he can deposit, get a welcome bonus, play few 1.0x bets to meet wagering requirement and withdraw, and beat casino with, then he is wrong. With that, you can harm casinos profit for few hundreds, but there will always be on your place 5-10 other gamblers that loose. The casino will get its profit in different place. Casino and gamblers is like hydras head - you kill one head, two new appear. If there would be a way to beat casinos, there wont have them new opened every week.

Some people actually manage to win against the casinos.

For example, David Walsh

Of course it was easier to do so in the early days, nowadays things are a bit more complicated.

Some people yes, won. But thousands have lost, if not more. What could be ratio of those who actually won, to those who had lost. I guess less than 1 percent. Imho, no matter if someone wins, because dozens lose. I might even agree with theory, that casinos allow some gambler to win big or get cheated. To create a vision of not being all-powerful, to let gamblers have hope that they could really win Cheesy

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January 30, 2023, 11:57:48 AM
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...

Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..

Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?

Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?

Ok so what happens if the situation is the other way around? If you go to a casino, played and lost your money. Do you leave and never come back? In that case, would you consider that also winning?

I do not think that planning on being lucky once and then leaving forever is any better than staying and gambling and hoping on staying lucky to keep on winning but if you have already won, then yes, taking the money and leaving would definitely leave you a winner with a profit.

I just do not think its possible to plan for luck, so the situation is hypothetical.

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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...

Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..

Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?

Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?

That way you'll beat the casino, but you are not the only client, so the reality still stays that casinos always won, which means overall. You might think of that now but if you are in a real situation, once you start winning, you will think that you are really good and you can easily make money in gambling.

Honestly, it's hard to stay disciplined in gambling following your goal, as a gambler, you will always try to gamble and win, and will not stop until you are satisfied, question is, how much winning would satisfy us?
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January 30, 2023, 12:28:34 PM
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Hi gamblers, it's a simple question I want to ask...

Remember it is said that, in gambling, the house always wins, I Want us to look at this two scenarios and tell if this are not actually a way to win/beat the house..

Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?

Secondly, imagine that on your first day of gambling, you gambled $200 and in the process, won money running into hundreds of thousands of dollars, you withdraw the money and start up your own business, and never returned to gambling again, isn't this one way to beat the house?

There's a bit more chance of you losing all than wining a large amount. And no sane person would place all they got on the first bet of their life. If they won, that would be once in a life event if they left gambling completely but once people win, they'll be addicted to the thrill of wining.
It's hypothetically a possible scenario but you won't be beating the house as the house would have edge on overall bets and not depend on just one user. And in order to prevent such rare but possible circumstances, casinos have a high limit on bet and or win.



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January 30, 2023, 12:59:47 PM
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Hit and Run tactics wont beat casinos. If someone thinks, that, for example, he can deposit, get a welcome bonus, play few 1.0x bets to meet wagering requirement and withdraw, and beat casino with, then he is wrong. With that, you can harm casinos profit for few hundreds, but there will always be on your place 5-10 other gamblers that loose. The casino will get its profit in different place. Casino and gamblers is like hydras head - you kill one head, two new appear. If there would be a way to beat casinos, there wont have them new opened every week.
As long as there are other players with that casinos, you can't just beat them.
Leaving the casinos right away after getting some profit or the bonuses is good but doesn't mean you beat the system because you might be tempted doing this with the other site and your luck might not be the same again. There's no way to beat the house, they always have the edge against the players and we have to accept that fact.
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January 30, 2023, 01:07:29 PM
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There's no extent to which being lucky can't come through, some atimes comes the way we never expected, to a surprising part of it, we get winnings sometimes on ganes we never expect coming or give less attention to, those that fall on this kind of categories are the occasional gamblers that only gambles ones a while, they may never expect it coming because they only gamble for the purpose of creating fun for themselves when less busy and were not the desperate kind of gamblers always after winning, i don't expect such gambler to hit a jackpot and never run and find something tangible to invest with the money, because if he continues gambling steady he may never be given such another opportunity again while he's loosing the money already back into gambling on a bid to win again.

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January 30, 2023, 01:17:22 PM
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Imagine yourself as a new gambler who just joined a casino, played a few dollars and with luck on your side, you win money running into thousands of dollars, will withdrawing your money plus winnings from that casino, never to return there to play again, mean you have beaten that casino?

The question is, will it stop here? I mean, I may not return to the casino where I win big in my first try, but I may come to other casinos in order to try to get the same experience. It will be useless if I can leave from one site but continue gambling in other sites. If I can stop it 100% without moving to other casinos, I would not say that I've beaten the house but I've beaten myself. If I can do such thing means that I can control myself for a better thing.
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January 30, 2023, 01:37:51 PM
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If you think you must make money from the casino and then you will leave the casino completely is a way to win against the casino, you're just partially correct.

It's true when you win big amount and never gamble again, you will earn that's money. But do you really leave the casino completely? or you will migrate to the other casino including the fresh new created one? I believe when you win big amount, your funds will be confiscated since you fall on scam casino. Gambling on new casino is really risky and the chance you make money is quite low.

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