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January 29, 2023, 08:36:14 AM
Last edit: February 01, 2023, 11:38:45 AM by Helena Yu
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I'm aware if this kind this has been discussed before in the past, but I think it's need repetition since I see many users in this forum still not care with these mistakes:

1. Compress your image to make it lighter and resize your image.
You don't need to upload your heavy image which will make people need to wait more longer to see the image properly. You can compress your image in very simple and fast, just upload your image in this site https://tinypng.com/ and then download it after it's completed.

When you have upload your image to third party hosting image e.g. imgbb or imgur and copy the BBCode in your post, make sure you click the preview first and if the image is really big and it make your screen is full with your image alone, just use "width=400" or "height=400" don't need to use width and height in the same image since it would make the image looks really terrible.

Code:
[img width=400]https://[/img]


2. Quote only the part you want to reply.
Many users still quoting someone post in full, moreover they're don't care to delete the previous quoted text which can make it look like a pyramid. There's no need to quote previous quoted if you're only want to reply the latest post, I don't think any user will read the previous quote since it's quite hard to read especially it's full of text. If you're still don't quite understand about BBCode, you can learn it from this thread [TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)

Quote from: z
Quote from: y
Quote from: x
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.
Cras cursus pulvinar magna, et efficitur augue tristique vel.
Aliquam maximus tortor vitae cursus dictum.
Code:
[quote=z][quote=y][quote=x]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. [/quote]
Cras cursus pulvinar magna, et efficitur augue tristique vel.[/quote]
Aliquam maximus tortor vitae cursus dictum.[/quote]

Make it shorter

Quote from: z
Aliquam maximus tortor vitae cursus dictum.
Code:
[quote=z]Aliquam maximus tortor vitae cursus dictum.[/quote]


3. Familiarize to use report to moderator button, not only giving advice to the @OP
Giving advice to the @OP about his mistake isn't wrong, but most of the @OP aren't care to comeback to their own thread and continue to discuss, most of them only abandon it. Some of the advice like:
  • Move this topic to x section
  • Lock this topic to prevent from spam
  • Posting in a row isn't allowed

If you not report the post and only wait the @OP to correct his mistake, only 10% will do it.


4. Proper quoting and linking sources to avoid plagiarism

Plagiarism will lead to a ban of your Bitcointalk account because it's against Bitcointalk's forum rules:

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]
[e]33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.

Plagiarism (not marking copied content writen by other people) is not allowed and is a strong offense leading to a ban if you do it. Chances to get your account back are very low.
So please be careful and don't plagiarize by paying attention to:

  • When copy-pasting content from sources outside the forum (Twitter, News etc) you need to provide a link to the original source. In addition, you should use the "quote" function to show that it's not your original content:
    Quote
  • If you find helpful information on Bitcointalk, it is sufficient if you simply quote this message directly. Each message can be quoted with a function in the upper right corner (next to +Merit), as long as it is not a locked topic. If it should be locked, copy the text, put it in quote and add the link to this message. You can get the link to the respective message by clicking on the title of the message (Re:...) and then copying it as url.
  • For translated contend, please ask the original poster for consent or at least add a link above the translated part, to show that it is not your original work.
  • If you have copied a longer text from a different website, you should add the link above the content to show in advance, where the content is copied from.
  • Don't copy useless Shitposts for Signature Spam.
  • If suitable, you can also add quotation marks (" ") and / or italic letters.

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January 29, 2023, 01:25:30 PM
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 #2

About the quote shortening tips. Maybe try to show the BBcode of before and after the post trimming so that newbie can easily know how to you snip those post unrelated to the quoted whole conversation.

Like this:
Quote from: z
Quote from: y
Quote from: x
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.
Cras cursus pulvinar magna, et efficitur augue tristique vel.
Aliquam maximus tortor vitae cursus dictum.
Code:
[quote=z][quote=y][quote=x]Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. [/quote]
Cras cursus pulvinar magna, et efficitur augue tristique vel.[/quote]
Aliquam maximus tortor vitae cursus dictum.[/quote]

Make it shorter

Quote from: z
Aliquam maximus tortor vitae cursus dictum.
Code:
[quote=z]Aliquam maximus tortor vitae cursus dictum.[/quote]



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January 30, 2023, 02:56:50 AM
Merited by Helena Yu (1)
 #3

    I'm aware if this kind this has been discussed before in the past, but I think it's need repetition since I see many users in this forum still not care with these mistakes:
    Nice idea to make Bitcointalk members aware to avoid some common mistakes.
    Maybe you can also add this one:

    4. Proper quoting and linking sources to avoid plagiarism

    Plagiarism will lead to a ban of your Bitcointalk account because it's against Bitcointalk's forum rules:

    33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]
    [e]33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.

    Plagiarism (not marking copied content writen by other people) is not allowed and is a strong offense leading to a ban if you do it. Chances to get your account back are very low.
    So please be careful and don't plagiarize by paying attention to:


    • When copy-pasting content from sources outside the forum (Twitter, News etc) you need to provide a link to the original source. In addition, you should use the "quote" function to show that it's not your original content:
      Quote
    • If you find helpful information on Bitcointalk, it is sufficient if you simply quote this message directly. Each message can be quoted with a function in the upper right corner (next to +Merit), as long as it is not a locked topic. If it should be locked, copy the text, put it in quote and add the link to this message. You can get the link to the respective message by clicking on the title of the message (Re:...) and then copying it as url.
    • For translated contend, please ask the original poster for consent or at least add a link above the translated part, to show that it is not your original work.
    • If you have copied a longer text from a different website, you should add the link above the content to show in advance, where the content is copied from.
    • Don't copy useless Shitposts for Signature Spam.
    • If suitable, you can also add quotation marks (" ") and / or italic letters.

    By doing so, you'll avoid many problems.
    People coming over your post will see easily where your content is copied from.  Smiley



    If you like my suggestion, you can link my post as a source or re-phrase it.  Smiley

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    Merited by 1miau (1)
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    4. Proper quoting and linking sources to avoid plagiarism

    Now this is the most important part that must be avoided by newbies, I think Op should add this point to increase the awareness of those who often ignore this prohibition. Newbies who find it difficult to Up Rank often make copy-paste mistakes without attaching the source to lure other users to distribute merit to them. Plagiarism is a form of behavior that violates the principle of honesty, this must be campaigned continuously for newbies so that they can be taken seriously with concrete preventive measures.

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    January 30, 2023, 04:04:57 AM
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    1. Compress your image to make it lighter and resize your image.
    just upload your image in this site https://tinypng.com/ and then download it after it's completed.
    You can use this one too.
    [GUIDE] How to change desired image as Bitcointalk avatar size using app.

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    3. Familiarize to use report to moderator button, not only giving advice to the @OP
    [Guide] Searching effectively

    Some userscripts, extensions to help you report better and more easily.
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    January 30, 2023, 04:39:48 AM
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     #6

    I think I can suggest this one.

    Avoid bumping threads that has not been posted for a long time.

    They're not follwing this warning when they try to reply on a thread that has been quite for long time.
    Quote from: z
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    Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.

    I have seen a lot of threads that been bumped after a long time. Most of the newbies and "feeling newbies" do this most of the time specially on bounty campaigns and also in different boards. Posting on threads like this may cause spamming which is not good and also irrelevant bumping topics or issue on specific year like 2015-2017.

    It will be good if the forum has an auto lock if the threads has not  been posted for 120 days, it may lessen spamming.
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    January 30, 2023, 04:51:42 AM
     #7

    Avoid bumping threads that has not been posted for a long time.
    It is not clearly black and white, right and wrong. If you have solid reasons to bump an old topic, you can do it, it is not wrong. It is only wrong if spammers bump old topics to have more posts for their accounts.

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    Most of the newbies and "feeling newbies" do this most of the time specially on bounty campaigns and also in different boards. Posting on threads like this may cause spamming which is not good and also irrelevant bumping topics or issue on specific year like 2015-2017.
    It is purely spamming from spammers.

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    It will be good if the forum has an auto lock if the threads has not  been posted for 120 days, it may lessen spamming.
    Later sometimes there will be need to unlock those old topics. Members will have to send reports or requests to moderators and wait for approval. It is inconvenient and not a good idea.

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    January 30, 2023, 04:58:16 AM
     #8

    What I find most irritating is when I read a long post which does not divided into multiple paragraph and does not have proper headings. This is something basic and needs to be used when writing a long post.

    Proper way of quoting a reply is very important but I have seen a lot of the members quoting more than one reply to make a reply which looks preety confusing and is hard to understand. This is mostly seen in self moderated thread.  

    If you ask a question and have received multiple answers to your query then it is advised to lock that thread. A discussion thread can be kept open. I see very few members following the rule. Locking a thread is important to stop spam replies.


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    February 01, 2023, 11:44:38 AM
    Merited by The Sceptical Chymist (4)
     #9

    4. Proper quoting and linking sources to avoid plagiarism
    I really understand about plagiarism will lead you get banned because this forum has zero tolerance against that. But after I read this one proper quoting and linking source aren't need to avoid plagiarism in this forum Huh

    That's user just write he took it from someone article without linking the source and he's not get banned! There's a user saying, it just a bad citation and he has no intention to plagiarism it, so he's free. Although it's true, but it's still on grey area if it's completely 100% allowed or the moderators will ban him if he's keep repeating same mistake for not linking the original sources.

    There's someone get exposed if he was plagiarism for 7 posts, the thing is the account still active until now without receiving any punishment Roll Eyes


    Avoid bumping threads that has not been posted for a long time.

    They're not follwing this warning when they try to reply on a thread that has been quite for long time.
    Quote from: z
    Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
    Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
    It's true, but I think it's mostly a newbie who bump an old thread without any reason.

    I'm more concerned with many old users doesn't use their eyes to see the date of the thread and the last replies, when someone already replying to the old thread, you wouldn't see any warning message  again. So there are a lot users only read the last reply and continue to make post, if they use their eyes, they will know to avoid the thread and just use report to moderator to delete the recent reply or lock the thread.

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    February 01, 2023, 12:13:35 PM
     #10

    This thread reminded me of some things that irritate me personally and about which I tried to warn beginners, but also some "more experienced" members of the forum. The problem is that very few people read such topics, and even fewer understand what we are discussing here. Some cannot be blamed because there is a language barrier and they simply have a hard time understanding a lot of things, the much bigger problem is those others who understand perfectly, but simply don't care.

    Some annoying things that beginners do (but also some old members)

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