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True, he is lucky that it does not take long for him to wait for a big fight, now that its here, this is an opportunity to prove that although he is not undefeated anymore, but he can become a champion again. We only have few Filipino boxing champs, so I'm sure Magsayo is now inspired to carry the nation in this fight and will go home bringing the glory.
Chances like this are not seen every day and no matter what happened, if he really wanted to pursue his dream, then he should win this fight and do everything he can to beat Figueroa. Maybe this is one of the most exciting fights will gonna happen to his career because he needs to put everything in here and improve himself in order not to be the same fighter when he suffered his first loss. Now is the time to prove to them that he still has the power to become a legend in boxing. Based from initial odds, Magsayo is the underdog of this match, so if you are rooting for him, would be good to bet. We don't know how prepared both the fighters are to this belt, but if Magsayo can really win on this one, he will uplift the spirit of his countrymen. They are looking for another boxer that can follow the path of Pacquiao. However, we know such feat is quite difficult as it would take years and years before another boxer can prove such achievement.
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February 08, 2023, 10:02:32 PM |
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Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match. If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa. But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better. Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa. Or did I miss something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) WBC 130lbs or the Super Featherweight title is vacant at the moment so Rey Vargas and Foster will be fighting for it in the next few days. If Vargaz will win that fight there's a chance that he won't be moving south in weight anymore as he will be campaigning in that 130lbs division so with that the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa will be declared the champion of the 126lbs division. If Magsayo will be the winner, no rematch in the featherweight division for Vargas and the Filipino slugger as they are now both holding a title in a different division.
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Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match. If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa. But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better. Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa. Or did I miss something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) WBC 130lbs or the Super Featherweight title is vacant at the moment so Rey Vargas and Foster will be fighting for it in the next few days. If Vargaz will win that fight there's a chance that he won't be moving south in weight anymore as he will be campaigning in that 130lbs division so with that the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa will be declared the champion of the 126lbs division. If Magsayo will be the winner, no rematch in the featherweight division for Vargas and the Filipino slugger as they are now both holding a title in a different division. I see, thanks for clarifying this bout to me mate. I haven't noticed that the Vargas-Foster bout will be contested at 130 lbs. fighting for the WBC belt, speaking of, time flies fast because this said fight will happen today. We will see what will happen as this the outcome of this fight is somehow connected to this thread. Hopefully things will go their own way, so that the Figueroa-Magsayo will be a title fight directly.
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Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match. If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa. But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better. Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa. Or did I miss something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) WBC 130lbs or the Super Featherweight title is vacant at the moment so Rey Vargas and Foster will be fighting for it in the next few days. If Vargaz will win that fight there's a chance that he won't be moving south in weight anymore as he will be campaigning in that 130lbs division so with that the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa will be declared the champion of the 126lbs division. If Magsayo will be the winner, no rematch in the featherweight division for Vargas and the Filipino slugger as they are now both holding a title in a different division. Or unless they both agree that they are willing to risk the belts just to have the rematch, maybe if money will talk and they already holding both belts from that different divisions. It still possible that these two fighters will have their rematch and fans will have that chance to see them both inside the ring. It will be in the hands of the promoters to make things happen.
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Let's wait for the result of this fight and maybe Vargas will not think of climbing, instead, he will be giving Magsayo a chance for a rematch because the first fight wasn't really a unanimous decision win by him, so that will certainly excite the crowd and promoters will love that as it's easy to market the fight. Actually, Rey Vargas really has a set of targets in the 126 but having difficulty securing even one of those. Instead, he considers fighting for the vacant title at 130. Regardless if he wins or loses there, he still holds his 126 title. And no, Magsayo is surely out of any Vargas plans but if the former will win against Figueroa and the latter loses against Foster or decided to stay a 126, which I doubt if he wins, a mandatory fight is about to take place between the interim champion and regular champion. Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match. If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa. But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better. Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa. Or did I miss something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Yes, as I mentioned above, if Vargas will lose his attempt at the 130 lbs title a few days from now, he's still the WBC Featherweight Champion. Let's say he really loses, the next one in line for him is, will face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa.
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February 11, 2023, 09:23:37 PM |
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Now, this rematch though may not happen if Vargas will make a climb to the next weight class.
Aside from moving up weight, if Rey Vargas will win his upcoming fight, no chance for a rematch with Magsayo at 126 for a title match. If he loses instead, he's still holding the WBC Featherweight Title and will mandatorily face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa. But it seems that Mark Magsayo is not really looking forward to a rematch against Rey Vargas but instead will just go with the flow on whoever is assigned as his opponent and will focus there. I do hope that his aggressiveness to get that title again will have the same intensity as when he first grabbed it from Gary Russell Jr. or even much better. Wait, help me understand about this mate because I'm in the middle of confusion here. If Vargas will get defeated on his upcoming fight which is 2 days from now, why would he still be carrying the WBC title? His fight with Foster is a title defense fight, so if he will lose, then Foster will get it right? And Foster will fight the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa. Or did I miss something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) WBC 130lbs or the Super Featherweight title is vacant at the moment so Rey Vargas and Foster will be fighting for it in the next few days. If Vargaz will win that fight there's a chance that he won't be moving south in weight anymore as he will be campaigning in that 130lbs division so with that the winner of Magsayo vs Figueroa will be declared the champion of the 126lbs division. If Magsayo will be the winner, no rematch in the featherweight division for Vargas and the Filipino slugger as they are now both holding a title in a different division. Or unless they both agree that they are willing to risk the belts just to have the rematch, maybe if money will talk and they already holding both belts from that different divisions. It still possible that these two fighters will have their rematch and fans will have that chance to see them both inside the ring. It will be in the hands of the promoters to make things happen. I guess a rematch between Magsayo and Vargas will be quite impossible to happen if both boxers are already holding their own respective belts in their respective weight class. Why? There's a good chance that neither one of them is willing to take the jump or put their belts on the line as in the first place, a rivalry was never established between these two boxers and that means a money fight is somehow impossible too. They will have their own separate ways and fighting opponents in separate divisions.
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February 11, 2023, 09:51:50 PM |
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I guess a rematch between Magsayo and Vargas will be quite impossible to happen if both boxers are already holding their own respective belts in their respective weight class.
Wait first on the result of the Magsayo vs. Figueroa match before we can say that statement involving Magsayo. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) There are also several "what if's" for that rematch between Magsayo and Vargas and those are stated already in the above discussions. If Magsayo and Vargas will win their respective match, they can probably meet in the future at the 130 if the former considers moving up and think he can able to adopt the environment in that division.
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February 11, 2023, 10:01:56 PM |
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I guess a rematch between Magsayo and Vargas will be quite impossible to happen if both boxers are already holding their own respective belts in their respective weight class.
Wait first on the result of the Magsayo vs. Figueroa match before we can say that statement involving Magsayo. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) There are also several "what if's" for that rematch between Magsayo and Vargas and those are stated already in the above discussions. If Magsayo and Vargas will win their respective match, they can probably meet in the future at the 130 if the former considers moving up and think he can able to adopt the environment in that division. Rey Vargas has a scheduled fight tonight against Foster, so for those who are interested then they can watch this fight and see if he will have to stay at 126 lbs or not. Foster promised Vargas that he will send him back to featherweight division when he win against Rey. Nevertheless, Mark should focus on the task at hand here, Figueroa is not a easy fight for him because of the volume and somewhat Magsayo was problems fighting a brawler because he can't execute his power punches. And there are issue too with his gas tank as he tires in the later round and that might be a big issue for him as Brandon Figueroa is relentless.
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February 11, 2023, 10:08:58 PM |
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Nevertheless, Mark should focus on the task at hand here, Figueroa is not a easy fight for him because of the volume and somewhat Magsayo was problems fighting a brawler because he can't execute his power punches. And there are issue too with his gas tank as he tires in the later round and that might be a big issue for him as Brandon Figueroa is relentless.
This is one of the reason why I am not a fan of Magsayo, he can be explosive in early rounds but if he failed to knock his opponent, he will gas out on the later round that might cost him the fight. Besides, I seldom see Magsayo use his wits in a match, he is more likely a charging bull relying on his power punches to knock his opponent down, just like what he did in his fight against Vargas that cost him the fight. If Figueroa can withstand Magsayo's punches, and Magsayo doesn't change his style, it is very possible that Figueroa will win the fight via decision. Hopefully, Magsayo will bring more on this fight to beat Figueroa convincingly.
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There's a good chance that neither one of them is willing to take the jump or put their belts on the line as in the first place, a rivalry was never established between these two boxers and that means a money fight is somehow impossible too.
As far as I know, if Rey Vargas will won his upcoming match against Foster, he will stay in that division I believed. Magsayo, on the other hand, if won against Figueroa, will do several mandatory title defenses first before considering moving up. I agree though, there's no rivalry between Mark Magsayo and Rey Vargas and neither one of them is calling each other that's why the possible rematch between them can happen if the situation will make it happen.
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There's a good chance that neither one of them is willing to take the jump or put their belts on the line as in the first place, a rivalry was never established between these two boxers and that means a money fight is somehow impossible too.
As far as I know, if Rey Vargas will won his upcoming match against Foster, he will stay in that division I believed. Magsayo, on the other hand, if won against Figueroa, will do several mandatory title defenses first before considering moving up. I agree though, there's no rivalry between Mark Magsayo and Rey Vargas and neither one of them is calling each other that's why the possible rematch between them can happen if the situation will make it happen. Yeah, and that's how this sports works, if there's something that will push the rematch after both fighters win their respective matchup for sure is more about how much will be the amount that they'll going to win. More on money matter if both camps will start negotiating about the potential rematch to whatever division they'll going to meet. We all know that if the pressure is coming from a huge amount of money, both camps will be ready to discuss and talk about the possible match.
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If Figueroa can withstand Magsayo's punches, and Magsayo doesn't change his style, it is very possible that Figueroa will win the fight via decision. Hopefully, Magsayo will bring more on this fight to beat Figueroa convincingly.
Figueroa is one of few boxers in featherweight which have a strong chin, so it's not easy to knock out him. Both of them are brawlers, there will be a lot exchange of punches between them and it might be a close fight. It might be possible if this fight would be end in draw? however draw is really rare to happen in boxing, most of the time it will end via split decision. Magsayo need to be aggressive on every rounds, not only on the early and near end.
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February 12, 2023, 08:15:06 AM |
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And Foster winning against Vargas, the Featherweight division might go back with him as the WBC champion. So this fight is very important for this two, because sooner or later the winner might be Vargas next target once he moved down.
Unless he wants to stay at 130 lbs, he already tasted this division and lost already. So the best option is to go back and defend his belt. Although one compelling reason for him to stay is when his body can't squeeze to 126 lbs limit. He is a tall boxer and maybe they are going to look at this problems as well and where they are going after his first lost.
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February 12, 2023, 08:53:16 AM |
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And Foster winning against Vargas, the Featherweight division might go back with him as the WBC champion. So this fight is very important for this two, because sooner or later the winner might be Vargas next target once he moved down.
It was upset, Vargas doesn't look like a champ here. Foster knew what to do in the ring, he was in control of the fight until the very end, and this guy is so lucky to have won his first championship fight. So no more Vargas vs Magsayo, but if Magsayo will fight Foster, he'll be fighting a better fighter.
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February 12, 2023, 12:16:47 PM |
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And Foster winning against Vargas, the Featherweight division might go back with him as the WBC champion. So this fight is very important for this two, because sooner or later the winner might be Vargas next target once he moved down.
It was upset, Vargas doesn't look like a champ here. Foster knew what to do in the ring, he was in control of the fight until the very end, and this guy is so lucky to have won his first championship fight. So no more Vargas vs Magsayo, but if Magsayo will fight Foster, he'll be fighting a better fighter. The defense of Foster was like the defense of Mayweather, and Vargas has no idea how to beat the challenger, although he hit some good shots in the later rounds, but he was really tired, and good thing Foster had already invested early. This is one of the fights in that the champion does not get the sympathy of the fans for losing via unanimous decision.
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February 12, 2023, 10:43:49 PM |
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And Foster winning against Vargas, the Featherweight division might go back with him as the WBC champion. So this fight is very important for this two, because sooner or later the winner might be Vargas next target once he moved down. It looks like Vargas won't be moving up in weight division soon. So it is interesting to see the outcome of the fight between Magsayo and Figueroa if Vargas will accept the winner of the fight as challenger. Unless he wants to stay at 130 lbs, he already tasted this division and lost already. So the best option is to go back and defend his belt. Although one compelling reason for him to stay is when his body can't squeeze to 126 lbs limit. He is a tall boxer and maybe they are going to look at this problems as well and where they are going after his first lost.
I do not think Vargas will stay in super featherweight, unless he has a rematch clause in his fight against Foster. I also think that he will go back to Featherweight division to defend his title. So we might hearing a news soon about Vargas defending his belt to the winner of Figueroa - Magsayo fight.
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Unless he wants to stay at 130 lbs, he already tasted this division and lost already. So the best option is to go back and defend his belt. Although one compelling reason for him to stay is when his body can't squeeze to 126 lbs limit. He is a tall boxer and maybe they are going to look at this problems as well and where they are going after his first lost.
I think with Vargas losing to Foster, he will now think of not pursuing his goal to stay at 130. That surely change his thought that he was not ready yet to conquer the 130. He will surely go back to 126 and will defend his title at the 126. The rematch between Mark Magsayo and Rey Vargas is now possible to happen. Magsayo now needs to do his best to have a shot at the title he owned before.
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February 12, 2023, 11:59:34 PM |
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I do not think Vargas will stay in super featherweight, unless he has a rematch clause in his fight against Foster. I also think that he will go back to Featherweight division to defend his title. So we might hearing a news soon about Vargas defending his belt to the winner of Figueroa - Magsayo fight. Even with a rematch clause, that fight between Vargas and Foster is not even close. Vargas is truly dominated by Foster at most rounds and not even a competitive fight. The scorecards will tell how Vargas becomes an underdog where in fact he's the Favorite to win. Maybe Vargas overthinks too much and believes he can do whatever he thinks. He will go back to Featherweight after that loss and that's for sure. He will face the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.
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February 13, 2023, 12:13:51 AM |
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It looks like Vargas won't be moving up in weight division soon. So it is interesting to see the outcome of the fight between Magsayo and Figueroa if Vargas will accept the winner of the fight as challenger. No need to think if Rey Vargas will accept the winner of the Magsayo vs. Figueroa bout as a challenger because whether he likes it or not, it will be a mandatory fight for him to fight an interim champion. A mandatory title defense is really the next thing he will be assigned if he loses to Foster. Should be an easy path to the Featherweight title for the winner of the Magsayo vs. Figueroa bout if Vargas won instead. If that the one happened instead, Vargas will surely choose to stay at 130 and vacant his 126 title giving the winner of this match to be elevated right away as a Featherweight champion.
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February 13, 2023, 12:39:23 AM |
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And Foster winning against Vargas, the Featherweight division might go back with him as the WBC champion. So this fight is very important for this two, because sooner or later the winner might be Vargas next target once he moved down.
It was upset, Vargas doesn't look like a champ here. Foster knew what to do in the ring, he was in control of the fight until the very end, and this guy is so lucky to have won his first championship fight. So no more Vargas vs Magsayo, but if Magsayo will fight Foster, he'll be fighting a better fighter. I don't know if we can call it an upset, although Vargas is the favorite, but it was very close odd if I'm not mistaken. Foster is very confident going into the fight, there is an intense stare down and he always says that he will bring back Vargas to 126 lbs. And that's what he did in this fight, he completely destroys the tall Vargas. Rey can't even take advantage of his height and reach because Foster is so good at shifting and it makes it difficult to Vargas to him hit cleanly. Now, losing make things complicated for Magsayo vs Figueroa. As the winner will have a chance to have a crack against Vargas as he will be moving down in weight. Will it be Magsayo vs Vargas rematch? or will it be Figueroa vs Vargas brawl?
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