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Question: Who do you think will win in this fight?
Magsayo by Decision
Figueroa by Decision
Magsayo by KO/TKO
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March 05, 2023, 07:13:48 AM
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I thought that the fight was close although I have hinted that Figueroa will win eventually because of the point deduction and his aggressiveness in the Championship rounds, Magsayo cannot take Figueroa's body punches that is why he is holding a lot, he keeps on ducking to avoid those punishing punches.
Figueroa just proved that he has a very strong chin he received a lot of big punches in the chin but that doesn't stop him from pursuing Magsayo.
I wonder what's next for Magsayo two in a row is not good it's going to be a hard climb but he is still young he can opt to climb up weight but there are many great fighters in the upper weight category.

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March 05, 2023, 07:45:30 AM
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I thought that the fight was close although I have hinted that Figueroa will win eventually because of the point deduction and his aggressiveness in the Championship rounds, Magsayo cannot take Figueroa's body punches that is why he is holding a lot, he keeps on ducking to avoid those punishing punches.
Figueroa just proved that he has a very strong chin he received a lot of big punches in the chin but that doesn't stop him from pursuing Magsayo.
I wonder what's next for Magsayo two in a row is not good it's going to be a hard climb but he is still young he can opt to climb up weight but there are many great fighters in the upper weight category.

I agree, Figueroa has a very good chin, he was able to absorb the strong punch of Magsayo that's why he keep on coming forward despite being hit. And Brandon strategy is go to the body of Mark because they know that it will take a toll on him in later rounds.

I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.

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March 05, 2023, 08:33:51 AM
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I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.
Actually Magsayo get defeated with the same way, where he was use a lot stamina in the early rounds and slowly get beaten in the late rounds. He still not able to find a way to beat a boxer with reach advantage, Magsayo shouldn't only looking to win via knock out since top boxers will have a tough chin.

It's really bad to see Magsayo have lost his last 2 fights, it will not easy for him to comeback since he might depressed with this result.

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March 05, 2023, 10:01:14 AM
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I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.
Actually Magsayo get defeated with the same way, where he was use a lot stamina in the early rounds and slowly get beaten in the late rounds. He still not able to find a way to beat a boxer with reach advantage, Magsayo shouldn't only looking to win via knock out since top boxers will have a tough chin.

It's really bad to see Magsayo have lost his last 2 fights, it will not easy for him to comeback since he might depressed with this result.

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

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March 05, 2023, 11:06:36 AM
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There's nothing to be ashamed of, as Magsayo did his job in the ring to win. It's just that Figueroa was the better fighter there, and he won a unanimous victory. Magsayo also had some problems, as he was deducted points. It's not good for a struggling boxer to win and aggravate the problem more.

Magsayo should now focus on reflecting on what went wrong, instead of blaming the refs and judges. There's no time for excuses; it's two consecutive losses already, so it's not a great sign for him.

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March 05, 2023, 11:13:23 AM
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I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.
Actually Magsayo get defeated with the same way, where he was use a lot stamina in the early rounds and slowly get beaten in the late rounds. He still not able to find a way to beat a boxer with reach advantage, Magsayo shouldn't only looking to win via knock out since top boxers will have a tough chin.

It's really bad to see Magsayo have lost his last 2 fights, it will not easy for him to comeback since he might depressed with this result.

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

Nope its decent win for Figueroa there's no question regarding on his victory since we see how Magsayo ran out of gas and the minus points for Magsayo is very crucial which totally affect his points so I guess that's a bad fight for him. He better do more better because this is big lose for his career many thought he is the one who fight with Vargas but this will never happen as Figueroa won the match.

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March 05, 2023, 11:30:21 AM
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I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.
Actually Magsayo get defeated with the same way, where he was use a lot stamina in the early rounds and slowly get beaten in the late rounds. He still not able to find a way to beat a boxer with reach advantage, Magsayo shouldn't only looking to win via knock out since top boxers will have a tough chin.

It's really bad to see Magsayo have lost his last 2 fights, it will not easy for him to comeback since he might depressed with this result.

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

Nope its decent win for Figueroa there's no question regarding on his victory since we see how Magsayo ran out of gas and the minus points for Magsayo is very crucial which totally affect his points so I guess that's a bad fight for him. He better do more better because this is big lose for his career many thought he is the one who fight with Vargas but this will never happen as Figueroa won the match.

There's no question that Figueroa won this match; it was a clear domination by him, as Magsayo just couldn't be accurate with his punches, and he ran out of gas, so this fight wasn't really for him. Let's give credit to the winner, although Figueroa really broke some hearts here, LOL.

Congratulations to the backers of Figueroa. What was the betting odds of Figueroa winning via decision?

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March 05, 2023, 11:49:11 AM
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When the rematch of this two players will happen,it was not sure the same results will come.The reason for this is the stamina of the player was not same on different day.Magsayo game was different now,he lost two matches is not an expected one.To beat the another boxer,he should keep the stamina by the good food like meat daily and avoid of alcohol.Some boxer was not in concentration on their health.Because health is important one for the boxer as compared to the normal man.With health the stamina of the players should keep in mind.Even the Magsayo come back after the long back,the two loss of the matches not expected one by their fans.

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On the other side, Magsayo has been winning and fighting year to year. Absolutely no stopping him! Aside from his one recent loss, his track record is way better. Obviously he is going to win this fight with certainty.

He lost though so he is stop on his track, so both are coming from a lost, and so the winner will obviously bounce back with a big win here.

I would be happy if Magsayo wins this match. He is listed as the underdog, so for us bettors, this is a great opportunity to bet and make a decent return if Magsayo does indeed win.

Same here, I also like Magsayo to win this match.  He badly need to win this fight so that he can have a chance to redeem himself by having a rematch against the champion Vargas. 

I honestly agree with you both. Not only does Magsayo need to win his upcoming fight but he also needs to fix his hurt pride from his last bad match. Its hard to say why he lost but if you ask me, I would qualify that loss as a fluke. That should not have happened.

I also agree with the fact that this fight is really nice pickings for us, the bettors who know and love Magsayo. Of course devotion alone does not win fights but devotion always has roots and a good reason.

No doubt in my mind that Magsayo will redeem himself and give us an easy win with great odds.


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March 05, 2023, 12:18:03 PM
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Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

He didn't work hard in this comeback fight and he just loses that easily, too much confidence in his skills and he didn't practice some more to surprise his opponent. That's just how the game is, some will win and some will lose and obviously Figueroa had known his boxing style that's why he can't be much effective against him. Well, chances are few in the boxing fight, with a straight loss like this one, I wonder if they still gonna give him chance to get a good fight such as this one next time.

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Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

I definitely agree that Figueroa deserves that win but i don't think the gap on the scorecards is justifiable. In the unofficial scorecards of the commentators, they scored it 114-112 in favor of Figueroa and if not for the point deductions, it could have been a draw in the unofficial scorecards and that point deduction by the ref is also questionable as he did not warn Magsayo not to hold or whatever that warrant a deduction if he keeps on doing it.

Anyways, that's boxing and it's understandable that the ref and judges will favor Figueroa as he is more popular in the US, also Mark Magsayo was not so impressive in that fight.

Congrats to the Figueroa backers here and if my memory is right, that should be 2.xx for Figueroa to win via decision.

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Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

He didn't work hard in this comeback fight and he just loses that easily, too much confidence in his skills and he didn't practice some more to surprise his opponent. That's just how the game is, some will win and some will lose and obviously Figueroa had known his boxing style that's why he can't be much effective against him. Well, chances are few in the boxing fight, with a straight loss like this one, I wonder if they still gonna give him chance to get a good fight such as this one next time.

I don't think Magsayo didn't practice; that would discount the success of Figueroa. Let's just say that Figueroa's talent is better than Magsayo's, and that's the reason why he won the fight. Magsayo is not on the level of the champion now, and the two losses he had resulted in him being an ordinary boxer again. Let's not force the issue; Magsayo lost, and that's it.
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Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.
I was shouting at my television while watching it. For Magsayo to stay in the distance while Figueroa is trying to close the gap. Magsayo is winning at his own range, the jabs are going in, and the combos are also sinking in the face of Figueroa. If he only listened to his coach when he said he should go for 3 punches and then go out then he might be the winner of that fight.
Brandon had a difficult time reaching him, but he got Magsayo to fight the close range and he fell for it.
I don't think it's the training, it's the listening that he should practice.

I do not agree with the scorecards too but I know he lost that fight after the 2 points were deducted. I gave him 4 of the first 6 rounds but the rest of it is either on Figueroa's or a tie. Stamina is a big issue for him and it's not surprising anymore.

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March 05, 2023, 09:06:51 PM
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Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.
I was shouting at my television while watching it. For Magsayo to stay in the distance while Figueroa is trying to close the gap. Magsayo is winning at his own range, the jabs are going in, and the combos are also sinking in the face of Figueroa. If he only listened to his coach when he said he should go for 3 punches and then go out then he might be the winner of that fight.
Brandon had a difficult time reaching him, but he got Magsayo to fight the close range and he fell for it.
I don't think it's the training, it's the listening that he should practice.

I do not agree with the scorecards too but I know he lost that fight after the 2 points were deducted. I gave him 4 of the first 6 rounds but the rest of it is either on Figueroa's or a tie. Stamina is a big issue for him and it's not surprising anymore.

They will review the fight for sure, and maybe Magsayo will realize his shortcomings for not listening to his coach.
For his next fight, he should really be prepared and should start by meeting the required weight of the division.
That lucky punch won't work all the time, so they should have a better approach on the next one.
Otherwise, if he will lose again, I don't know where his career is heading to. On this match, bookies were right this time.
I was also thinking that scorecards are not that wide but here, you can say, Figueroa clearly won this fight.
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Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.
I was shouting at my television while watching it. For Magsayo to stay in the distance while Figueroa is trying to close the gap. Magsayo is winning at his own range, the jabs are going in, and the combos are also sinking in the face of Figueroa. If he only listened to his coach when he said he should go for 3 punches and then go out then he might be the winner of that fight.
Brandon had a difficult time reaching him, but he got Magsayo to fight the close range and he fell for it.
I don't think it's the training, it's the listening that he should practice.
I know right, what the hell was he doing, his stamina is also one of his issues too, he really needs to fix that problem, I hope his coach focuses on his stamina problem. Magsayo could have won this Fight, that being said Figueroa deserves the win. I would love to see a rematch but right now Magsayo needs to check his mental health, a back-to-back loss can have a massive impact on a fighter.

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Regardless if there is controversy on the score, I think Mark Magsayo lost this one in our eyes

- he didn't fix the issue on his stamina
- bad strategy of keep on holding, first time to see him doing that
- distance, he try to counter but it seems he can't find the distance, majority of his shots are not hitting when the try to counter and that could really led him to being tired late in the rounds
- we said that weight is not an issue when he scale more than the desired weight, but it seems it has affected him as well

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Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

I definitely agree that Figueroa deserves that win but i don't think the gap on the scorecards is justifiable. In the unofficial scorecards of the commentators, they scored it 114-112 in favor of Figueroa and if not for the point deductions, it could have been a draw in the unofficial scorecards and that point deduction by the ref is also questionable as he did not warn Magsayo not to hold or whatever that warrant a deduction if he keeps on doing it.

Anyways, that's boxing and it's understandable that the ref and judges will favor Figueroa as he is more popular in the US, also Mark Magsayo was not so impressive in that fight.

Congrats to the Figueroa backers here and if my memory is right, that should be 2.xx for Figueroa to win via decision.

I have it 115-111 in favor of Brandon Figueroa. But that scoring though is questionable. Anyways, time to move on, yes Figueroa deserves to win no doubt about it as we have seen he has more left in the tank specially in the championship rounds wherein he step up to finished the show.

I think Magsayo should take a rest for now, back to back lost in very hard to recover from.

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Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.
I was shouting at my television while watching it. For Magsayo to stay in the distance while Figueroa is trying to close the gap. Magsayo is winning at his own range, the jabs are going in, and the combos are also sinking in the face of Figueroa. If he only listened to his coach when he said he should go for 3 punches and then go out then he might be the winner of that fight.
Brandon had a difficult time reaching him, but he got Magsayo to fight the close range and he fell for it.
I don't think it's the training, it's the listening that he should practice.

It was a brawl and Figueroa took advantage of the clinches to score points taking the round.  I do agree that if Magsayo just fight with his own range, he could have won the fight.  I think Magsayo wanted to KO Figueroa resulting in a toe to toe fight. I was like wth with those barrage of punches done by Magsayo that does little damage and consume lots of energy.

I do not agree with the scorecards too but I know he lost that fight after the 2 points were deducted. I gave him 4 of the first 6 rounds but the rest of it is either on Figueroa's or a tie. Stamina is a big issue for him and it's not surprising anymore.

Stamina is always been a problem for Magsayo so it is not surprising that is is already tired on the later part of the fight.  Those multiple punches eats lots of stamina, he could just do a 1 -2 punch, Figueroa isn't that hard to hit especially when Magsayo is in his range.
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March 05, 2023, 10:22:43 PM
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I don't think he can get either a rematch with Vargas or Figueroa, it will all be the same results.

He needs to go back down again and try to rejuvenate his career, at least fight someone decent or cherry pick so that he will have this confidence back.
Actually Magsayo get defeated with the same way, where he was use a lot stamina in the early rounds and slowly get beaten in the late rounds. He still not able to find a way to beat a boxer with reach advantage, Magsayo shouldn't only looking to win via knock out since top boxers will have a tough chin.

It's really bad to see Magsayo have lost his last 2 fights, it will not easy for him to comeback since he might depressed with this result.

Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

Nope its decent win for Figueroa there's no question regarding on his victory since we see how Magsayo ran out of gas and the minus points for Magsayo is very crucial which totally affect his points so I guess that's a bad fight for him. He better do more better because this is big lose for his career many thought he is the one who fight with Vargas but this will never happen as Figueroa won the match.

There's no question that Figueroa won this match; it was a clear domination by him, as Magsayo just couldn't be accurate with his punches, and he ran out of gas, so this fight wasn't really for him. Let's give credit to the winner, although Figueroa really broke some hearts here, LOL.

Congratulations to the backers of Figueroa. What was the betting odds of Figueroa winning via decision?

He can't stand the fight as Magsayo get tired early that's why Figueroa dominated this fight. Although many Magsayo fans heart got broken on the result but Figueroa is the clear winner since he really make Magsayo tired and look like a punch bag on late rounds of the game. Many notice about Magsayo always get problem with stamina and he need to improve that because this is his main problem why he lose this fight.

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March 05, 2023, 10:24:17 PM
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Some people do not agree with the scorecards, as it seems like the gap is very big. Too bad for Magsayo, as he got deducted twice for score violations, but overall, his performance was not convincing, and Figueroa deserves to win. Magsayo needs to train more and probably change his boxing style, as his career is slowly going down.

I definitely agree that Figueroa deserves that win but i don't think the gap on the scorecards is justifiable. In the unofficial scorecards of the commentators, they scored it 114-112 in favor of Figueroa and if not for the point deductions, it could have been a draw in the unofficial scorecards and that point deduction by the ref is also questionable as he did not warn Magsayo not to hold or whatever that warrant a deduction if he keeps on doing it.

Anyways, that's boxing and it's understandable that the ref and judges will favor Figueroa as he is more popular in the US, also Mark Magsayo was not so impressive in that fight.

Congrats to the Figueroa backers here and if my memory is right, that should be 2.xx for Figueroa to win via decision.

I have it 115-111 in favor of Brandon Figueroa. But that scoring though is questionable. Anyways, time to move on, yes Figueroa deserves to win no doubt about it as we have seen he has more left in the tank specially in the championship rounds wherein he step up to finished the show.

I think Magsayo should take a rest for now, back to back lost in very hard to recover from.

Go back to the Philippines for now and reset everything.

maybe the feeling of weight drain got on magsayo in the later rounds. but in any case, a lot of users from the forum are rooting for magsayo, but don't know if they actually betted on him. magsayo knew he should have done something more on this fight. the scorecards are also way too wide for me. even with point deductions. so this fight should serve magsayo an inspiration for his next fight and do what he thinks would rise his standing in this division.

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