Best way to store BTC

[btcethgold]

Hello all BTC veterans.

Apart from electrum wallet,

Please provide suggestion as how to store BTC securely for long term.

Thanks

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[KiaKia]

The best way to store Bitcoin safely for long term is by using a hardware wallet, this is highly recommended for newbies but if you are a daily spender of Bitcoin just stick with Electrum wallet on your smartphone, hardware wallets are more secured and far more reliable, the device is always needed to access a transaction.

Make sure you buy a open source hardware wallet like Trezor.

[SeeBiscuit]

People overcomplicate BTC storage out of fear.

Then again, LukeJr got 200 coins yoinked out of thin air.

https://imgur.com/a/MG4g8zn

from a tiny mistake he made on his part.

This happened very recently and I don't think its GREAT that this guy is typing that he is scared.

I've read around on this forum that a good ole notebook, pen, and paper is your best friend.

I like to write out my 16+ password on paper using random characters that come into my head.

Then I put that random password into the appropriate section during the setting up of the account. Makes me realize how effective them asking you to type your password out twice really is.

Why does anyone use entropy yielded from machine brains? There's no one out there that's gunna guess a combination of 16+ characters that came to YOUR mind RANDOMLY.

Then again, I'm new so I'm probs wrong.

Ledger is great too, they say they haven't been hacked and even theymos publicly recommends them. They are coming out with a STAX version to compete with other hardware airgapped devices that have big large phone-like displays.

^these will be popular for new onboarders next bullrun when the whales decide it's time for price to moon.

[AnonBitCoiner]

Hello all BTC veterans.

Apart from electrum wallet,

Please provide suggestion as how to store BTC securely for long term.

Thanks

From your your details it is clear that you are already familiar with Electrum wallet which is high usable wallet for Btc . Actually Electrum wallet is beneficial for those who need daily spending of BTC. As you alread mentioned that you want to hold BTC for long time so I will recommend hard wallet to store BTC. Any cold wallet is not safe for storing long term.
Ledger is best option for you to store which is full secure and no risk at all to store for long term. Trezor is also best one as mentioned by Kiakia. I am using Safepal Hardwallet to store my coins and I think it's also secure to store BTC. You can use any of Hardwallet according to your need .

[mk4]

Longer more effort-ey answer: actually read about it and decide for yourself. https://cryptosec.info/wallets

Short answer: buy a Ledger/Trezor hardware wallet.

[Z-tight]

The best way to store BTC securely for the long term would be on an airgapped device that wouldn't ever be connected to the internet for any reason, but it is kind of difficult to set up for a complete newbie and they may make mistakes while setting it up, but if everything is done correctly, it is the safest method.

Hardware wallets have to be my second option of safest ways to store BTC for long term, it is kind of easier to use than setting up and storing your BTC on an airgapped device, so if you don't know how to correctly store your BTC in an airgapped device, choose a hardware wallet.

[aylabadia05]

Apart from electrum wallet,
Please provide suggestion as how to store BTC securely for long term.

Have you tried Bitcoin Core yet?
https://bitcoin.org/en/download
There are so many advantages to Bitcoin that almost all Bitcoin users recognise them, and I'm no exception.
You can read about Bitcoin Core for yourself here. link

If you want to be secure, you need to spend a little money to buy hardware wallets such as Trezor One, Trezor T, Ledger HW.1, Ledger Nano S, Ledger Blue, KeepKey.
For all types of bitcoin wallets, I recommend visiting the Bitcoin Technical Support board.

For small transactions, I prefer Blue Wallet.
Regarding Blue Wallet, you can discuss in this thread [Tutorial] BlueWallet - Bitcoin Wallet Discussion

[un_rank]

Apart from electrum wallet,

Please provide suggestion as how to store BTC securely for long term.

It is not about the wallet, but how you use it.

One could use electrum on an old desktop which they do not use any longer and do not connect to the internet at all. If they securely generate their keys on it and back up their seedphrase, maybe with an additional passphrase, this would be more secure than just opening electrum on your regular mobile and creating a wallet, and could be as secure (or more) as a hardware wallet.

How you back up your seed, How you access your wallet to transact, how you interact online all contribute to the security of your asset.

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[Broadanbig]

It is obvious that people do not still understand that the safety of their wallets depends on how they handle their wallets. It is not all about the type of wallet that you use in storing your bitcoin but how you keep your wallet safe by safeguarding your private key and phrase. Many wallets have suffered hack from hackers as a result of little mistakes from the wallet holders. No wallet is guaranteed %100 secured but the security depends on you.

If you are thinking of exchange, you should do well to remember the phrase " not your keys,not your coin"  exchange are not much safe these days as they suffer hacks.

[nimogsm]

Hello all BTC veterans.

Apart from electrum wallet,

Please provide suggestion as how to store BTC securely for long term.

Thanks

Hello, an important tip that is missed in this topic: divide your balance into two parts and store it in different places.So if you lose one, you will have a second option.You can lose a cold wallet or anything can happen to it, but copies of all passwords and keys should be written on paper at least.Don't keep everything in one place ever.

[hitsnorth]

The cold wallet is the safest option, obviously. But a non-custodial wallet is a pretty good option if you just starting and don't have much BTC. Just keep your seed phrase written on a list and hidden safely and you find a good wallet.

[dkbit98]

Please provide suggestion as how to store BTC securely for long term.

Long term I would keep my seed phrase and private keys offline, maybe with hardware wallets (Trezor, Passport, Bitbox, Keystone, etc.) or by using airgapped devices like laptop.
Than you can combine that with any open source wallets like Electrum or Sparrow wallet, and create multisig setup to make everything more secure.

[Furious 7]

Hardware wallets are the perfect solution for now but if you still can't afford one then electrum is actually still good enough to store your assets.
The most important thing is to be careful in taking care of your computer when using Electrum because there could be things that you don't want.
But a suggestion if you really want to feel comfortable, then you should consider Hardware Wallet even if you do have to spend a budget but it's not a problem as long as you are comfortable.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Electrum is a pretty good thing but looking at the state of things now it looks like some people are starting to lose as is the case with @Jullerz12 I've been hacked (Electrum 4.3.2 ) so indeed right now there will probably be some people who are a bit skeptical about this.
At the moment I'm also still using electrum because I don't have a hardware wallet yet. I have wanted to order several times because in my area it is still a little difficult to get it and Ecommerce is also still a little hampered in shipping to my area so I still keep my assets in electrum but for this year I will try to buy a hardware wallet and I also suggest the same to you.

[The Cryptovator]

You appear to be a old forum user. So, given your familiarity with Electrum, I should assume you are knowledgeable about wallets. Open source hardware wallets, however, are the safest option. It doesn't matter if you hold for a long or short time. It is actually completely safe and secure up until your seed is not compromised. Therefore, in addition to picking the safest wallet, it's crucial to secure your private keys or wallet seed. Spend more time on the forum to gain more knowledge.

[passwordnow]

Aside from the desktop wallet (Electrum, Wasabi, Samourai). The other best options are hardware wallets and paper wallets. If you don't want to spend then you've got two choices, a paper wallet, and a desktop wallet. As for hardware wallets, you have to spend to buy the wallet, the device itself but treat it as an investment for the security of your asset, bitcoin. As for the choice, the two most common have already been mentioned:

• Ledger
• Trezor

If you happen to choose this option, you're the one that will generate the 12/24 recovery words. By any chance that the wallet is delivered to you and there's a preload seed or recovery words, don't use it as the seller will just retrieve any deposited balance there and that's the scam part where newbies are vulnerable to.

[hosseinimr93]

Electrum is a pretty good thing but looking at the state of things now it looks like some people are starting to lose as is the case with @Jullerz12 I've been hacked (Electrum 4.3.2 ) so indeed right now there will probably be some people who are a bit skeptical about this.

Electrum is an open-source wallet and there is nothing hidden from the users. Just because someone got hacked and lost his fund doesn't mean there's a problem with electrum.
If your device is compromised or someone has access to your seed phrase/private keys, it's not electrum's fault.

[Lanatsa]

Hello all BTC veterans.

Apart from electrum wallet,

Please provide suggestion as how to store BTC securely for long term.

Thanks

Ledger/Trezor
Airgapped device (computer/phone)
Steel plate

I dont see any problem with using Electrum because i've been using it for lots of years and never been hacked or really have those loss of coins.
The thing you should really be minding about is on how to store those keys out from other peoples attention and awareness.
Dont store it on a place where it is connected into internet or somewhat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VawkuLS3G8

[PrivacyG]

I like to write out my 16+ password on paper using random characters that come into my head.

Then I put that random password into the appropriate section during the setting up of the account. Makes me realize how effective them asking you to type your password out twice really is.

Why does anyone use entropy yielded from machine brains? There's no one out there that's gunna guess a combination of 16+ characters that came to YOUR mind RANDOMLY.

Then again, I'm new so I'm probs wrong.

In some very rare situations, you may be right.  Machine generated random passwords are not necessarily always safe.  You never know how random random can be.  You can click Generate and it can bring you a sequence of 16 identical characters.  But then you have a brain and can see patterns, so if you see a pattern you skip the newly generated password and re-generate until you get one random enough.

I would argue coming up with your own password is a decision as bad as generating a Brain Wallet always was.  Your brain sees patterns and I think most of the things we are doing are actually patterns too.  This makes me believe we are even thinking in patterns too.

I tried coming up with random passwords out of my mind too.  While at a first glance they seemed random, I soon realized there were a few things that went wrong.  First of all, I realized that I was only mainly using less than half of the alphabet in my 'random generation' of passwords.  Then I realized many of the sequences came from actual words.  I would have 'S' coming up first in my mind, write it down, then I would think of '@', write it down next to the 'S' and then, involuntarily, I would think of 'd' as the next character.

That leaves me with the sequence 'S@d', which I could transform into 'Sad' from the English vocabulary.

But then I realized I was doing this not so random generation.  Which led to the great idea of moving forward to using an actually randomly generated password.  You can do this in so many ways if you do not want to rely on machines.  The even bigger problem is that if we popularize this idea of 'you can produce your own password randomly', there will be many who will fail and will end up having passwords like tH1si$aGo0Dp@s$w0RD which is obviously not a good and secure choice.

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Regards,
PrivacyG

[BlackHatCoiner]

I tried coming up with random passwords out of my mind too.  While at a first glance they seemed random, I soon realized there were a few things that went wrong.

A more appropriate adjective to describe it is: arbitrary. You can't produce randomness, humans aren't capable of doing that, it's proved. What you're doing is thinking that you're being random, and that's why it seemed to you.

Whatever is deterministic isn't purely random, and neither are CSPRNG (I haven't studied the field, but I guess). It's more of a philosophical topic. I'm sure the human brain functions deterministically, though. If you were forced to create a sentence within a minute, the first thing that would come to your head would be product of a very strange algorithm.


As for the OP: the best way to store bitcoin is in an air-gapped manner.