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February 02, 2023, 07:56:55 AM |
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Well im planing to deposit decent amount of eth and make sports bets, but i really prefer no kyc casino/sports bet. Most of casinos that i tried with clearly wriitwn NO KYC still asks for docs even for 0.0002btc withdrawal. Does anyone know normal no kyc casino without bs? so far i tried vave.com , they are good, but who knows what will happen if you withdraw more than 1k, maybe annoying kyc procedures will begin trough email. Anyone tried cloudbet? or bitcoin.com games?
- If you want no KYC, just activate your 2fa, because I've tried it anyway, this is the live casino, and bitcasino, I often play slot games here. I only play once a week but there are times when I win around 100$-300$+ and so far no one has asked me to submit a KYC, although sometimes it takes a long time to complete a withdrawal transaction. Try playing on the gambling platform I mentioned.
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February 02, 2023, 08:58:55 AM |
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Well im planing to deposit decent amount of eth and make sports bets, but i really prefer no kyc casino/sports bet. Most of casinos that i tried with clearly wriitwn NO KYC still asks for docs even for 0.0002btc withdrawal. Does anyone know normal no kyc casino without bs? so far i tried vave.com , they are good, but who knows what will happen if you withdraw more than 1k, maybe annoying kyc procedures will begin trough email. Anyone tried cloudbet? or bitcoin.com games?
Sites without kyc can put you in danger at any time and there is no guarantee that they won't fail to pay if they win a big account. So always try to use trusted sites. And doing kyc there won't be a problem You can gamble there without fear and it doesn't matter whether you win small prizes or big ones. They will give you the reward you deserve. Here Oshosondy has already shared a link from here you can see kyc details of many sites
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February 02, 2023, 09:09:05 AM |
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Is Betcoin trustable though? Many years ago I had a run-in with their support. They told me a policy they had and I pointed them to their own FAQ link where it contradicted that and said the opposite. They then deleted the FAQ and said they were upholding the policy since they "couldn't" find it there (but I had archived it online already because I thought they might). I lost trust in them that moment. When they first opened they did had a lot of problems with the site. Because of the problems, that got passed down to customer support and it was frustrating. They cleaned things up and are now one of the best casinos/sportsbooks. They have 3 sportsbooks that you can play at, all with different lines. You can play with many cryptos including USDT if you don't want to deal with price fluctuation and they pay fast.
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February 02, 2023, 09:16:40 AM |
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When you say you're worried about finding a casino that doesn't need you to provide identification, I completely empathize. When a casino advertises itself as no-KYC but then requests papers for even the smallest withdrawals, it may be quite annoying. That's why you should always read the fine print before putting any money down.
In answer to your query, I have only heard glowing reports regarding Cloudbet. When it comes to crypto gambling, they come highly recommended, and their selection of sports bets is extensive. I've heard that they are one of the few casinos that strictly follows the no-KYC policy and doesn't ask for identification when making a withdrawal. However, before placing a deposit, it is prudent to review their terms and conditions.
And if one day you change your mind about KYC, you can choose Stake.com. It is one of the best casino imo
Cloudbet is in the middle of the road as far as KYC. They don't do the most of the casinos but they don't do the least. Definitely check the restricted country list since your money will be confiscated if caught playing there.
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February 02, 2023, 09:43:57 AM |
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Well im planing to deposit decent amount of eth and make sports bets, but i really prefer no kyc casino/sports bet. Most of casinos that i tried with clearly wriitwn NO KYC still asks for docs even for 0.0002btc withdrawal. Does anyone know normal no kyc casino without bs? so far i tried vave.com , they are good, but who knows what will happen if you withdraw more than 1k, maybe annoying kyc procedures will begin trough email. Anyone tried cloudbet? or bitcoin.com games?
Why not just use decentralized online casinos that do not require registration and KYC allowing direct connection, since after searching really among the recommended online casinos that require registration with a deposit, I at least did not find reliable sites they all have a very low rating judging by the reviews.
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February 02, 2023, 09:48:22 AM |
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Well im planing to deposit decent amount of eth and make sports bets, but i really prefer no kyc casino/sports bet. Most of casinos that i tried with clearly wriitwn NO KYC still asks for docs even for 0.0002btc withdrawal. Does anyone know normal no kyc casino without bs?
What casino did that ask you for a KYC even if it's just a 0.0002 BTC withdrawal? That sounds crazy to think of. That's not normal if it's that small amount because a casino will ask you for a kyc if you've been withdrawing a lot and they've noticed it. so far i tried vave.com , they are good, but who knows what will happen if you withdraw more than 1k, maybe annoying kyc procedures will begin trough email. Anyone tried cloudbet? or bitcoin.com games?
I am not familiar with vave and those that you've mentioned, cloudbet is known in the forum but with bitcoin.com games, many will discourage you to use it. Apart from those that you've mentioned, duelbits can be one of your choices but I don't guarantee that it won't ask you for KYC. Majority of the casinos will ask you kyc for certain reasons and one of it when you're quite big gambler.
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February 02, 2023, 10:08:32 AM |
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Well im planing to deposit decent amount of eth and make sports bets, but i really prefer no kyc casino/sports bet. Most of casinos that i tried with clearly wriitwn NO KYC still asks for docs even for 0.0002btc withdrawal. Does anyone know normal no kyc casino without bs? so far i tried vave.com , they are good, but who knows what will happen if you withdraw more than 1k, maybe annoying kyc procedures will begin trough email. Anyone tried cloudbet? or bitcoin.com games?
Why not just use decentralized online casinos that do not require registration and KYC allowing direct connection, since after searching really among the recommended online casinos that require registration with a deposit, I at least did not find reliable sites they all have a very low rating judging by the reviews. One of the reason why I don't want to choose those casino which offer No KYC compliant because we don't know if they are good because their reputation is questionable. Much better to use a KYC compliant casino which have good trust score and shows that they can able to pay huge winnings since this can give us more safety atmosphere than any other else. Before its good that we don't give our KYC details but now since bitcoin and crypto casino industry is evolving then maybe its good for us to get used of it and choose the best platform that we can trust our private details.
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February 02, 2023, 10:23:24 AM |
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If you are talking about cloudbet, you can refer to their Ann thread here: Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site, maybe you can ask them your questions directly, although the official account hasn't been logging in, although I saw that the account has recently woke up, so they might answer your questions in that thread. As for KYC, sad to say, almost all casinos now are going to require KYC as this have been mandated by regulators, specially if you are going to withdraw some money or if the casino itself deem it needed to ask for more info before proceeding with the withdrawal, maybe there is a red flag on their part. That's right. Nowadays you either choose a licensed casino with KYC or unlicensed with no KYC. The only thing that should be frowned upon and I really wish people were boycotting casinos that do it is not asking for KYC on registration and when a player loses money, but making it hard for him to withdraw when he wins. Suddenly stupid requirements like proof of residence, utility bill and such come up when you want to withdraw a win.
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February 02, 2023, 10:28:27 AM |
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In the past few days, I tried playing on vave and deposited 0.001 BTC. According to their promo, if gamblers deposit $20, they give a 100% bonus (I do not know what it is) and 100 FS to play at Lady Wolf Moon Megaways (BGaming). But it turns out that after I deposited $20, I didn't see what bonus I got and it turned out that the 100 FS was divided over two days. The first day was 50 FS and the second day was 50 FS.
I managed to get a win, even though it wasn't too big, but the winning money was locked and I had to wager 40x to be able to release the winning money. Apart from that, there is also a limit of BTC of 0.04 BTC, 0.005, and 0.006 that I have to reach so that I can get a bonus (maybe), whether it's from the results of the wager or indeed, it is their requirement. That's because I already took the 50 FS bonus on the first day and another 50 FS on the second day.
And in the end, I didn't earn anything even though I was able to get 100 FS divided over two days, and I also lost 0.001 BTC. I don't know what will happen if you withdraw big money. But based on their claim, they don't need KYC.
Maybe I'm wrong in this matter so I don't really understand the rules of vave. So that's my experience playing there and I'm sorry if I don't understand the rules.
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February 02, 2023, 10:32:51 AM |
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Well im planing to deposit decent amount of eth and make sports bets, but i really prefer no kyc casino/sports bet. Most of casinos that i tried with clearly wriitwn NO KYC still asks for docs even for 0.0002btc withdrawal. Does anyone know normal no kyc casino without bs? so far i tried vave.com , they are good, but who knows what will happen if you withdraw more than 1k, maybe annoying kyc procedures will begin trough email. Anyone tried cloudbet? or bitcoin.com games?
contact me maybe I have some for you
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February 02, 2023, 10:57:26 AM |
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I played on casinos like Duelbits and Roobet, I was not required to pass any KYC documents. My withdrawals waw always less than 1k though. These casinos are processing KYC though, as far as I know. I think most gambling platform which doesn't have any policy for KYC are something we need to be cautious of.
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February 02, 2023, 11:34:14 AM |
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Cloudbet is doing kyc and its joke, they ask you to make selfie outside with street sign saying your address, in same time holding today's date newspape + write "Cloudbet *and today date*" and in same time holding ID card
I think next thing they ask is nudes from my wife
about Playbetr no idea how they are A rated bookmaker.. probably they pay someone on this thread good money, there are numerous complaints against them everywhere and on every platform their review numbers are so low.
duelbits and nitrobetting are the best so far from my own personal experience
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February 02, 2023, 12:10:40 PM |
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Cloudbet is doing kyc and its joke, they ask you to make selfie outside with street sign saying your address, in same time holding today's date newspape + write "Cloudbet *and today date*" and in same time holding ID card
I think next thing they ask is nudes from my wife
about Playbetr no idea how they are A rated bookmaker.. probably they pay someone on this thread good money, there are numerous complaints against them everywhere and on every platform their review numbers are so low.
duelbits and nitrobetting are the best so far from my own personal experience
Yeah!, yeah! I'm talking about this here on our forum all the time. The fact that these KYCs that come up with different sites, including gambling sites, sometimes cross all the boundaries of reason. It's actually very humiliating to take some kind of idiotic selfies in front of your house, and even with some kind of today's newspapers in your hands, or even with documents right in front of your face. In general, all this is insanity! Idiots who came up with KYC in general, and even more so idiots who come to such crazy checks. Damn American bankers with their KYC. Now they are climbing with this procedure with their raking dirty hands to where they are not needed by anyone. They climb into the sacred - into the very essence of the whole blockchain technology, where anonymity has actually always been a top priority. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif)
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February 02, 2023, 12:41:53 PM |
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Cloudbet is doing kyc and its joke, they ask you to make selfie outside with street sign saying your address, in same time holding today's date newspape + write "Cloudbet *and today date*" and in same time holding ID card
I think next thing they ask is nudes from my wife
about Playbetr no idea how they are A rated bookmaker.. probably they pay someone on this thread good money, there are numerous complaints against them everywhere and on every platform their review numbers are so low.
duelbits and nitrobetting are the best so far from my own personal experience
Yeah!, yeah! I'm talking about this here on our forum all the time. The fact that these KYCs that come up with different sites, including gambling sites, sometimes cross all the boundaries of reason. It's actually very humiliating to take some kind of idiotic selfies in front of your house, and even with some kind of today's newspapers in your hands, or even with documents right in front of your face. In general, all this is insanity! Idiots who came up with KYC in general, and even more so idiots who come to such crazy checks. Damn American bankers with their KYC. Now they are climbing with this procedure with their raking dirty hands to where they are not needed by anyone. They climb into the sacred - into the very essence of the whole blockchain technology, where anonymity has actually always been a top priority. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) OMG!!!!!!! well and here we have no1 no kyc btc casino cloudbet ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ))))))
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February 02, 2023, 12:44:52 PM |
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Betcoin asks for KYC, i went through it. Nitrobetting is the go to.
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February 02, 2023, 01:28:22 PM |
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Well im planing to deposit decent amount of eth and make sports bets, but i really prefer no kyc casino/sports bet. Most of casinos that i tried with clearly wriitwn NO KYC still asks for docs even for 0.0002btc withdrawal. Does anyone know normal no kyc casino without bs? so far i tried vave.com , they are good, but who knows what will happen if you withdraw more than 1k, maybe annoying kyc procedures will begin trough email. Anyone tried cloudbet? or bitcoin.com games?
There’s no such thing like this for a casino that has gambling license. There’s always a tricky part of every casino ToS under AML policy that they can ask KYC whenever they want and no casino stated the total exclusion of KYC on their ToS. Your best chance to find a casino like this was those that doesn’t have a gambling license which I don’t recommend at all because they have high chance of running away because they don’t have any legal liability that bind them for giving a trusted service. Sportsbet and Duelbits has low chance of asking you KYC if you are using their casino normally without any suspicious transaction history.
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February 02, 2023, 01:30:39 PM |
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Cloudbet is doing kyc and its joke, they ask you to make selfie outside with street sign saying your address, in same time holding today's date newspape + write "Cloudbet *and today date*" and in same time holding ID card
I think next thing they ask is nudes from my wife
about Playbetr no idea how they are A rated bookmaker.. probably they pay someone on this thread good money, there are numerous complaints against them everywhere and on every platform their review numbers are so low.
duelbits and nitrobetting are the best so far from my own personal experience
Yeah!, yeah! I'm talking about this here on our forum all the time. The fact that these KYCs that come up with different sites, including gambling sites, sometimes cross all the boundaries of reason. It's actually very humiliating to take some kind of idiotic selfies in front of your house, and even with some kind of today's newspapers in your hands, or even with documents right in front of your face. In general, all this is insanity! Idiots who came up with KYC in general, and even more so idiots who come to such crazy checks. Damn American bankers with their KYC. Now they are climbing with this procedure with their raking dirty hands to where they are not needed by anyone. They climb into the sacred - into the very essence of the whole blockchain technology, where anonymity has actually always been a top priority. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Asking for KYC through those ways are kinda weird. They can actually ask for KYC with formality where the users will just send photos of their identification cards and proof of address for further verification accompanied with their photos but asking to take photos in front of your house is too much. That will be a red flag for me. If I would ask for that kind of requirement, I will just switch to other decent casinos. It seems like they're playing and tripping on their users.
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February 02, 2023, 02:02:05 PM |
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Cloudbet is doing kyc and its joke, they ask you to make selfie outside with street sign saying your address, in same time holding today's date newspape + write "Cloudbet *and today date*" and in same time holding ID card
I think next thing they ask is nudes from my wife
about Playbetr no idea how they are A rated bookmaker.. probably they pay someone on this thread good money, there are numerous complaints against them everywhere and on every platform their review numbers are so low.
duelbits and nitrobetting are the best so far from my own personal experience
Yeah!, yeah! I'm talking about this here on our forum all the time. The fact that these KYCs that come up with different sites, including gambling sites, sometimes cross all the boundaries of reason. It's actually very humiliating to take some kind of idiotic selfies in front of your house, and even with some kind of today's newspapers in your hands, or even with documents right in front of your face. In general, all this is insanity! Idiots who came up with KYC in general, and even more so idiots who come to such crazy checks. Damn American bankers with their KYC. Now they are climbing with this procedure with their raking dirty hands to where they are not needed by anyone. They climb into the sacred - into the very essence of the whole blockchain technology, where anonymity has actually always been a top priority. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Asking for KYC through those ways are kinda weird. They can actually ask for KYC with formality where the users will just send photos of their identification cards and proof of address for further verification accompanied with their photos but asking to take photos in front of your house is too much. That will be a red flag for me. If I would ask for that kind of requirement, I will just switch to other decent casinos. It seems like they're playing and tripping on their users. Will definitely be something to worry of. Personally I have no problems with Kyc, I do get its vision which is to limit stealing other's money(no kyc means anyone could withdraw from your account), and also, limit this industry to youngsters(they'd be freely to engage with gambling if they won't undergo KYC procedure). But I also understand those who don't; crypto ondustry is decentralized in the first place and using such procedure would somehow bypass that concept. If you guys are worried, then only engage with registered gambling sites or sites which has a good reputation in this industry. There are just ways to minimize your anxiety of sending personal informations, just gauge the risks.
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February 02, 2023, 02:16:32 PM |
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Well im planing to deposit decent amount of eth and make sports bets, but i really prefer no kyc casino/sports bet. Most of casinos that i tried with clearly wriitwn NO KYC still asks for docs even for 0.0002btc withdrawal. Does anyone know normal no kyc casino without bs? so far i tried vave.com , they are good, but who knows what will happen if you withdraw more than 1k, maybe annoying kyc procedures will begin trough email. Anyone tried cloudbet? or bitcoin.com games?
Vave does ask KYC they just fucked me with multi accounting. They are NO anonymous book: https://prnt.sc/kld7tXtAWAQ3May I ask why you went ahead to create multiple accounts in the first place? What is so good about multiple accounts on a gambling platform? Also why don't you spend some time reading the gambling platform rules and regulation? Every online casinos have indifferent sets of rules and before opening double accounts and deposition on the accounts you should have checked, you are pretty fucked, like you've said.
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February 02, 2023, 02:39:11 PM |
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some of what you mentioned may be centralized so that you may be asked for KYC at any time, you need to look for a casino that is not centralized because any casino that is centralized may at any time ask you to complete KYC, so to guard against problems you should look for a casino that is not centralized
Most of the crypto casinos you are having at this time are centralised only and have KYC requirements from gamblers but if you see there are many players who are ready for it but the only thing they want is fund security through legit casinos although there are some non KYC casinos like stake if you wish to do so but they all are centralised. Yes you are right mate NO KYC has a advantages and disadvantages as well because we all know that No KYC casino especially a new sites is not just recommend after I'm some gamblers who take their risk to that casino and when its working properly and there's no problem of the withdrawal then it's a big recommended and worthy to be trusted. But also no KYC casino had a bad experience as we all know that some casino are scammed.
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