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February 05, 2023, 11:40:29 PM
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If bitcoin or cryptocurrency is for the institutional investors and for the corporates, then what you said could happen. The reality is different, cryptocurrency is for everyone and for every level of people. Maybe the institutional investments altogether can contribute big and give them power to make disturbance. To what extent this will happen, beyond some point the market will not react as it have dependence over each and everyone and not on something particular.

If the institutional investors pull out thier funds at the same time, it will result in a very negative market movement since the demand for Bitcoin is being pulled out, thus a collapse is imminent.  But good thing is, it will be temporary because Bitcoin does not only rely on institutional investors.  there are many other factors that can contribute to the market price of Bitcoin.  Most of it is from an individual demand.  Also the development of technology behind Bitcoin can also serve as interesting factor to make people interested and eventually participate in the bitcoin economy.

This mean that Bitcoin will not die even if the institutional investors ad corporate pulled out their support.
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February 05, 2023, 11:59:23 PM
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Investors come because the base market and the potential growth for that market is larger then they are.  The whole sector or any asset speculation possible can become over played if too many are chasing too few gains possible, some of it is time, development but also the natural propagation of usage across populations globally.  We know in some countries its about technology and infrastructure usage, even electricity infrastructure can be a limitation in non city areas I imagine that is still regularly a dynamic as a country grows.
   Investors arent the primary cause for any market, they need BTC and are benefitting more then we are from their external involvement though both parties should improve progress none of it is for certain and risk vs growth returns is always in question with waves of confidence on those returns.

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February 06, 2023, 02:48:11 AM
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If bitcoin or cryptocurrency is for the institutional investors and for the corporates, then what you said could happen. The reality is different, cryptocurrency is for everyone and for every level of people. Maybe the institutional investments altogether can contribute big and give them power to make disturbance. To what extent this will happen, beyond some point the market will not react as it have dependence over each and everyone and not on something particular.

If the institutional investors pull out thier funds at the same time, it will result in a very negative market movement since the demand for Bitcoin is being pulled out, thus a collapse is imminent.  But good thing is, it will be temporary because Bitcoin does not only rely on institutional investors.  there are many other factors that can contribute to the market price of Bitcoin.  Most of it is from an individual demand.  Also the development of technology behind Bitcoin can also serve as interesting factor to make people interested and eventually participate in the bitcoin economy.

This mean that Bitcoin will not die even if the institutional investors ad corporate pulled out their support.
currently bitcoin is increasingly recognized by the public and from their belief they admit that bitcoin is a very profitable investment tool for the future, so it can be said that bitcoin is needed not only for institutional companies, but more and more individuals will use it, so that if bitcoin adoption continues , so even if institutional companies leave the crypto world, then I don't think that will be a problem and that means it will make the movement of bitcoin independent of some institutions

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February 06, 2023, 04:50:12 AM
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This is related to the market capitalization system, where the process of supply and demand will be directly related to the course of crypto or bitcoin, without investors and without purchases that occur for bitcoin will not have a stable value in the market. The process of demand and supply plays an important role, because this relationship also cannot be ignored that occurs in the market, so that many other processes also influence it.

But I don't think institutional investors will stay away from investing in bitcoin, because actually they are also speculators looking for opportunities, so they are waiting for the right time to get into the market and trying to play the right tempo. This relationship is often used by institutional investors in playing the supply and demand process.

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February 06, 2023, 05:19:38 AM
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If bitcoin or cryptocurrency is for the institutional investors and for the corporates, then what you said could happen. The reality is different, cryptocurrency is for everyone and for every level of people. Maybe the institutional investments altogether can contribute big and give them power to make disturbance. To what extent this will happen, beyond some point the market will not react as it have dependence over each and everyone and not on something particular.

If the institutional investors pull out thier funds at the same time, it will result in a very negative market movement since the demand for Bitcoin is being pulled out, thus a collapse is imminent.  But good thing is, it will be temporary because Bitcoin does not only rely on institutional investors.  there are many other factors that can contribute to the market price of Bitcoin.  Most of it is from an individual demand.  Also the development of technology behind Bitcoin can also serve as interesting factor to make people interested and eventually participate in the bitcoin economy.

This mean that Bitcoin will not die even if the institutional investors ad corporate pulled out their support.
currently bitcoin is increasingly recognized by the public and from their belief they admit that bitcoin is a very profitable investment tool for the future, so it can be said that bitcoin is needed not only for institutional companies, but more and more individuals will use it, so that if bitcoin adoption continues , so even if institutional companies leave the crypto world, then I don't think that will be a problem and that means it will make the movement of bitcoin independent of some institutions

Bitcoin will not die if major institutions pull out of the market, but if that happens, it will be a huge blow to bitcoin, and I believe confidence in bitcoin will be shaken from there. Retail investors will not be strong enough to sustain bitcoin's momentum. Don't forget that the rise of bitcoin in recent years is due to huge donations from large companies and institutions that believe in bitcoin. In 2017 bitcoin was nothing and mainly a game of retail investors, 2021 is a game with the participation of countries and organizations, and the difference is noticeable.
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February 06, 2023, 05:41:17 AM
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What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.

   -   If we talk about reality now, it is still unclear what will happen in this era. Even when it was bearish, the percentage of investors with interest in cryptocurrency and bitcoin continued to increase. How much more so now that we are about to enter the bull run?

Of course, we're just talking about the truth mate, so that's just simple logic, if no one buys the product, the business will lose money and collapse, that's how simple it is.

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February 06, 2023, 06:24:28 AM
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It'd drop ofc. We can't exactly remove the influence that the institutional investors have in the current market, if they pulled out, there'd naturally be a reaction to the market, a negative one to be exact. But it should naturally die down since the market would naturally adjust itself to balance the demand/supply in the long run. Bitcoin surging still remains in question then, I still think it'd do, but it'd probably be slower in consideration of institutional investors not entering the market anymore (which is impossible I think, but just for the sake of OP's scenario ig).

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What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.
The price of a cryptocurrency depends entirely on the balance of supply and demand. Therefore, if demand falls or a significant part of investors sell their cryptocurrency assets, this will negatively affect the market. But this is hardly worth worrying about now. After the coronavirus, natural disasters and wars, the economic situation in the world continues to deteriorate, inflation increases, and interest in cryptocurrency increases.

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What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.
I am guessing before the 2017 ATH we did not really hear how much the institutional investors were involved in the level that Bitcoin went. I think it was after that 2017 ATH that we started noticing all these institutions paying attention to Bitcoin investment and if that should change for any reason I believe Bitcoin will still hold its own as before and as long as there is still demand for Bitcoin by every other individual as before, it will continue on its trajectory but may be slower however, I don't think anyone even the institutions are willing to step out of Bitcoin investment now.
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currently bitcoin is increasingly recognized by the public and from their belief they admit that bitcoin is a very profitable investment tool for the future, so it can be said that bitcoin is needed not only for institutional companies, but more and more individuals will use it, so that if bitcoin adoption continues , so even if institutional companies leave the crypto world, then I don't think that will be a problem and that means it will make the movement of bitcoin independent of some institutions
The future of Bitcoin will continue to improve if over time there are more individuals who like Bitcoin and want to use Bitcoin for investment or other things such as trading. Because when an asset becomes more popular among everyone like Bitcoin, of course large companies will also be happy to use it. As well as certain other parties will also follow because they always see what assets are liked by many people so they will also adopt them as used by many people.

Bitcoin will not die if major institutions pull out of the market, but if that happens, it will be a huge blow to bitcoin, and I believe confidence in bitcoin will be shaken from there. Retail investors will not be strong enough to sustain bitcoin's momentum. Don't forget that the rise of bitcoin in recent years is due to huge donations from large companies and institutions that believe in bitcoin. In 2017 bitcoin was nothing and mainly a game of retail investors, 2021 is a game with the participation of countries and organizations, and the difference is noticeable.
A different effect for Bitcoin when institutional companies withdraw from Bitcoin must be there, because companies that always have a lot of money buying Bitcoin, of course, are able to provide a very good effect for Bitcoin. But price drop on a very large scale is something that will obviously happen if there are many institutional companies that no longer hold Bitcoin even though Bitcoin is still alive and kicking again over time with free investors or with investors as you say. But the time that must be taken by Bitcoin to increase again without the big companies in it will certainly be very long.

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February 06, 2023, 08:16:47 AM
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What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.
I'm thinking of a reason why institutional investors will decide to stay away from crypto, but I can't think of any.

I mean they can earn from it so why stay away from it? That's pure stupidity if they will just stay away from something that they know they can make money from it. So to answer your question, I'm pretty sure it will not happen but if does happen (theoretically), more and more retail investors will have a chance to get more Bitcoins. We will see price of Bitcoin drop, but it will go up again as it is what's always happening.

Let's be realistic here. There's no way that they will not stay away from crypto market right? Is there any reason for them to go away?

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February 06, 2023, 09:04:25 AM
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What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.
The price of a cryptocurrency depends entirely on the balance of supply and demand. Therefore, if demand falls or a significant part of investors sell their cryptocurrency assets, this will negatively affect the market. But this is hardly worth worrying about now. After the coronavirus, natural disasters and wars, the economic situation in the world continues to deteriorate, inflation increases, and interest in cryptocurrency increases.

It's just an assumption, it would never have happened even without the black swan event you mentioned because everyone saw the potential that bitcoin has to offer them. Bitcoin exists to this day because bitcoin provides the needs that we are in need of, and making a profit is the biggest concern. Nobody doesn't want to make a lot of money, and bitcoin is doing it very well, just 14 years of existence, bitcoin has increased by tens of thousands of percent, it can be said that no asset has ever done that.

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February 06, 2023, 11:55:15 AM
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What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.
It's okay if institutional investors leave or stay away from crypto investments because many people still want to join crypto investments. But it might make the market panic and think that this is the end of crypto, which it is not because people with a lot of money will see this opportunity and start buying bitcoins in large quantities. At that time, the price will drop drastically so that people with a lot of money can buy bitcoin at a big discount. And after the price correction is complete, bitcoin will go up and maybe even higher. And, of course, institutional investors will be disappointed that they have stepped away from crypto.
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I want to say that institutional investors are actually bad for Bitcoin in the long run, because they hurt Bitcoin's ability to be a stable currency. You have to remember that institutional investors are pumping large amounts of money into Bitcoin for speculation... and when there are the slightest signs of trouble... they start to dump..and that causes panic and many people follow their actions.

This is why we are seeing such wild fluctuations in the price and this are causing extreme volatility. We, the supporter of Bitcoin being used as a currency and also retailers ...want a stable price... but institutional investors are sabotaging this.. by chasing huge profits.  Roll Eyes

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February 07, 2023, 03:53:19 AM
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I want to say that institutional investors are actually bad for Bitcoin in the long run, because they hurt Bitcoin's ability to be a stable currency. You have to remember that institutional investors are pumping large amounts of money into Bitcoin for speculation... and when there are the slightest signs of trouble... they start to dump..and that causes panic and many people follow their actions.

This is why we are seeing such wild fluctuations in the price and this are causing extreme volatility. We, the supporter of Bitcoin being used as a currency and also retailers ...want a stable price... but institutional investors are sabotaging this.. by chasing huge profits.  Roll Eyes

So what do you think is the best way to make bad things happen, do you have any good suggestions going forward? let's see what happens next with all of this going forward. I also have another hunch about all of this.

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I think that if we are ever going to get back to the 60k range, then  we are going to need institutional money to take bitcoin back up to those all time high areas.  I don't think it's possible personally without big business backing it up.  I think it's entirely possible to continue to grow with out much of it , as it is now..but that will only take us so far. 

The good think is bitcoin is still good for institutions and as long as that doesn't change, they are going to be focusing in on it in some capacity.

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February 07, 2023, 05:36:16 AM
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What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.
The price of a cryptocurrency depends entirely on the balance of supply and demand. Therefore, if demand falls or a significant part of investors sell their cryptocurrency assets, this will negatively affect the market. But this is hardly worth worrying about now. After the coronavirus, natural disasters and wars, the economic situation in the world continues to deteriorate, inflation increases, and interest in cryptocurrency increases.
Since it was first introduced until now no one can predict with certainty when the price of Bitcoin will rise and fall. If demand continues to increase, it is likely that the price of Bitcoin will rise and vice versa. usually an increase in the price of Bitcoin does not occur immediately, before the Bullish phase it always starts with a correction first. When a correction occurs, demand will increase to take advantage of the moment the Bitcoin price is falling.

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February 07, 2023, 08:05:27 AM
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What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.

Institutional investor always means a lot of money in the market that is usually invested with the purpose to achieve short term profits. If these short term profits are not coming than the big investors can withdraw their money very quickly again. That is why we should be careful when trusting institutional investor to save us. In case all of the institutional investors would leave the crypto markets at the same time then prices would be crashing. For a few weeks it would be look like armageddon before prices would find a new normal level. We have enough normal investors in the crypto community that are holding their coins for the long run, so this wouldn't mean the end of crypto currencies. The real question is of course how likely would such an event be. I don't think it's very likely that all the institutional investors would leave the cpryto markets at the same time.
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What do you think will happen to crypto if institutional investors all decide to stay away from crypto investment this time around? Do you think crypto can surge of it's own especially Bitcoin without the help of institutional investors money, do not yab me for this question, I am not sure what will happen I only need people's different opinions.

As investors, we shouldn't rely too much on that investing in bitcoin will always be profitable, if we take an investment that has a large profit opportunity, the risk of loss is also large, most people sell assets or are in debt for bitcoin investment and when they see the facts that are happening, namely the market is dropping, they stress and sell bitcoin at a loss, of course we must always be realistic and don't expect too much.


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February 07, 2023, 01:11:51 PM
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I think that if we are ever going to get back to the 60k range, then  we are going to need institutional money to take bitcoin back up to those all time high areas.  I don't think it's possible personally without big business backing it up.  I think it's entirely possible to continue to grow with out much of it , as it is now..but that will only take us so far. 

The good think is bitcoin is still good for institutions and as long as that doesn't change, they are going to be focusing in on it in some capacity.
There is already institutional money involved. It doesn't matter which companies will get in brand new or if they will at all, it only matters for the ones that already does it. Some of them sold, because it is low, but they do have departments that take care of these type of things and I bet that they are going to have it again when it starts to go up, and there are some that trade it everyday and will have more of it, and some that like it like Tesla and may end up buying again.

So all in all, we already have so many that are involved and interested, and they will do it again and they will make it bigger too. We just need to wait for them to get back in.
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