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February 05, 2023, 05:33:02 AM
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    -   Honestly, I don't know if I would be happy with a casino telling their gamblers like that, what do they mean gamble responsibly? In the eyes of the majority of the community in the world, gambling is not good and it does not bring anything good to the majority of gamblers.

Then it's true what some people said here that the casino is a business, that's the aim of that is the more that many gamblers deposit on their gambling platform, that's their profit. They have no losers because most of the time their house edge wins and if someone wins big that's only 1 in a million among the many gamblers who always lose, is this the gamble responsibly the one you always lose?

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February 05, 2023, 06:08:14 AM
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I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io, Duelbits, TrustDice, and others. They all have the same idea.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

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I support your opinion. Online sites Commonly prefer responsible gamblers. Because they know that some gamblers manage to gamble well for a few days but they cannot survive in the long run. As a result, the casino site is relatively give the less important to those clients. A gambler should balance both his betting amount and bankroll. Betting more than you are prepared to lose never falls under responsible gambling. Again many gamblers try their best to recover their lost money which can be one of the causes of losses.

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February 05, 2023, 06:45:03 AM
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That is a recommendation from the casino for people before they register at the casino. Still, I don't think that those people will take the time to read but will register immediately so they can immediately deposit their money and play gambling games. Casinos provide advice like that because they have a responsibility to gamblers even though it will return to each gambler. If a gambler can be wise in gambling, he will not spend too much money, let alone use money that exceeds the limit. He will manage his money to gamble and will stop when he feels he has had enough gambling.

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February 05, 2023, 06:46:48 AM
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I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money. I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test would be banned from signing up. Because they can't, they've created a section of their website with guidelines for responsible gambling. So, even if the house always wins, which is good for their business, it is your responsibility to bet responsibly.

1.Are you kidding me? Every casino wants gamblers, who constantly keep losing and losing money. That's the "meat and bread" of the gambling business. Every gambling business owner, who states that he wants more responsible/moderate gamblers and less gambling addicts to play in his casino is simply lying.
2.For me, responsible gambling is implemented by some casinos because of two things:
-Maybe such "gamble responsibly" disclaimers are required by the laws and regulations in some countries.
-This is just another PR marketing gimmick, which has the sole purpose to make the casinos look more legit.
By the way, the tips mentioned at the bottom of your forum thread are really good. Gambling is entertainment, gambling is not a way to make easy money and/or get rich quick.

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February 05, 2023, 09:39:47 AM
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Any thoughts?

I believe that such advice comes more from regulation than self-imposed, although people running casinos are humans after all and while I don't doubt that there are those who put money above all else, there will also be those who care about the welfare of the customer.

1.Are you kidding me? Every casino wants gamblers, who constantly keep losing and losing money. That's the "meat and bread" of the gambling business. Every gambling business owner, who states that he wants more responsible/moderate gamblers and less gambling addicts to play in his casino is simply lying.

Yes, well, I understand you in part, but it is as if you were saying that all beverage manufacturers would prefer everyone to be alcoholic in order to increase their sales, and I think that is far from the truth.

2.For me, responsible gambling is implemented by some casinos because of two things:
-Maybe such "gamble responsibly" disclaimers are required by the laws and regulations in some countries.
-This is just another PR marketing gimmick, which has the sole purpose to make the casinos look more legit.
By the way, the tips mentioned at the bottom of your forum thread are really good. Gambling is entertainment, gambling is not a way to make easy money and/or get rich quick.

I also partly agree. I mentioned the first point above, but the PR strategy had not occurred to me.

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February 05, 2023, 09:50:23 AM
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That is a recommendation from the casino for people before they register at the casino. Still, I don't think that those people will take the time to read but will register immediately so they can immediately deposit their money and play gambling games. Casinos provide advice like that because they have a responsibility to gamblers even though it will return to each gambler. If a gambler can be wise in gambling, he will not spend too much money, let alone use money that exceeds the limit. He will manage his money to gamble and will stop when he feels he has had enough gambling.
IMO, it's not necessary to read because if you are a responsible person, you already know the risk of gambling, and of course the possibility of what will happen to you if you will not gamble responsibly. A good example of irresponsible gamblers is those gamblers who are having big debts because they can't control their addiction, and eventually, they'll become homeless.

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February 05, 2023, 10:21:54 AM
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I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
I don't think so if they really are they would stop the gambler from losing more, by restricting their account, but many of these casinos don't care, they don't have a limit on what a gambler can wage.

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I'd like to believe that they only want responsible gamblers to patronize them. They believe they have a moral obligation to present some suggestions for responsible gambling to the general population. It is also logical to believe that if they could assess visitors for gambling addiction, those who failed the test
I'm sure they will not ask all their gamblers to do KYC and undergo a professional assessment and submit the result so they can continue gambling on their platform.


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The following are some of the responsible gambling guidelines I found on Livecasino.io, Duelbits, TrustDice, and others. They all have the same idea
- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.

These are all just advice casinos still leave on the gambler's decision how much they want to gamble and how long they want to gamble, they really can't control the actions of their players and that's something that benefit them, you gamble they profit.

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February 05, 2023, 10:45:08 AM
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Yeah you're right mate and I really don't think that casinos really want to see their players fail because the more the players fail, the more people will turn against their company.
Most times greed is a major factor that leads to loss and if a casino can point out all of this caution to people, then I don't think they really wan to see their players fail.
Chasing after losses is another major problem and without mixing words, it's one of the major epidemic in gambling as people now gamble with money they can't afford to loss and when the losses comes, they now Begin to chase after those losses which in most cases always has a negative return.

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February 05, 2023, 11:07:32 AM
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I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

Casinos have their house edge, and that's how they make money: the more people wager on their platform, the more the casinos earn. They don't care whether you are losing or winning as long as you are wagering. And, of course, they don't enjoy someone losing much more than he/she can afford to lose. It can potentially create troubles for a particular casino and gambling industry in general. No one needs that. So, contrary to popular belief, casinos are not interested in people losing all their money to them. Casinos want to see responsible gamblers on their platforms, not some gambling addicts.   

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February 05, 2023, 02:06:33 PM
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I agree, it's on the gambler's side on how he can manage his game.
This is also why I don't fully sympathize with those who are blaming it all on the online gambling site. Like the one story that came out here telling that one gambling site still keeps on mailing him about events and promotions while he is trying to come out from his gambling addiction.
It's on him to try other things to escape fully from that service. He could always make a new e-mail or just leave it there and never open it again.
It's his mistake in the first place for using that e-mail for his bad habits while others use a dummy mail.
Anyway, I do believe they don't really like people who got deep into their gambling addiction as it will also create some problems on their side.
That's why every time they make advertisements, the gamble responsibly is glued into it.

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February 05, 2023, 02:17:50 PM
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I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.

Casinos have their house edge, and that's how they make money: the more people wager on their platform, the more the casinos earn. They don't care whether you are losing or winning as long as you are wagering.


I disagree on this because casino will lose part of their bank roll if players keeps winning because house edge is just a small portion of someone bet. Are you telling that if a player is consistently winning 1million usd per bet is still alright with them because they can get assuming 1% house edge on that winning amount because you said that they will keep being in profit win or lose?

Casino gets most of their profit on players that losing their bankroll. House edge is just their way to increase chance of winning against of players but doesn’t mean that they are immune to losses because of this house edge. Casino can keep up their profit because some players is losing to compensate someone profit while they get house edge profit either way. There’s no way for them to be in profit if the majority of players is in profit.

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- Treat your betting and gaming as a form of entertainment and only use money that you have set aside for your entertainment.
- Do not bet or wager amounts larger than you are comfortable with.
- Do not bet or wager with money you cannot afford to lose.
- Do not chase your losses.
- Do not let your betting and/or gaming take up time that you would usually spend on other activities.
Maybe, from one side there are positive and good, responsible warnings are published by online casinos to their users, good, if users are aware of this, but the facts on the ground are not like that, many cases of users using their savings or selling property to gamble, hope to double their money, because many users are greedy and ambitious in betting.

They are aware, without the warning users know about it, but due to other negative factors, so many users who bet on online casinos ignore it, they close their eyes because they have been covered in great lust.

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February 05, 2023, 02:48:25 PM
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It's just a default warning page that most regulated casinos will probably have to publish specifically whether they like it or not. But let's take the middle point, the casinos will stick to the company and don't want them to be dragged into the personal problems of their customers due to uncontrolled gambling. Having a dedicated page on responsible-play means casinos can safely do business on their own terms.

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It seems like an obligation to keep gamblers to be responsible gamblers even though the industry expects to profit from losing gamblers.
Casinos know very well that there are many gamblers who will be addicted even they know that some gamblers will not be able to control themselves and their urge to gamble. So while some of us don't think it's necessary for casinos and the industry to warn their gamblers to be responsible gamblers, I think it's one thing so in the end the casinos are not to blame.

I've seen this in few casinos so it's only natural for casinos to hold gamblers to be responsible for their betting decisions and how they play. In fact, this may have been required of the casino as rule that must be read by its customers.

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Casinos always want players not to stop going to their casinos, so of course a type of defense mechanism can be activated for this, in fact I don't remember in which thread I read it here in the forum where there are some casinos that have a option of being able to pre-rot your players, that an option is activated when they see that they are playing a lot and losing everything, where they warn them to only bet a certain amount of money and if they lose, they should not bet more, that caught my attention and I told myself that That casino or the casinos that have that option are truly excellent with their customers. I think that if all casinos had that, it would be ideal, a protection system to prevent players from becoming addicted.


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February 05, 2023, 04:06:06 PM
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Probably. Although there had been issues with physical casinos in regards with the places where they built their establishments. Most of them are near a place where there are more poor people. I don't know if that is true though. But about online casinos, I don't think they want us staying online 24/7 and just gambling our lives away. That's not healthy and it will reflect on our bets which are not thoroughly thought about. That is not entertainment anymore, that is a habit that will be difficult to erase.
Chasing losses is what makes one gambler stay for longer periods. Because online sites are easy to access they won't be able to sleep unless they get it back.
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Casinos always want players not to stop going to their casinos, so of course a type of defense mechanism can be activated for this, in fact I don't remember in which thread I read it here in the forum where there are some casinos that have a option of being able to pre-rot your players, that an option is activated when they see that they are playing a lot and losing everything, where they warn them to only bet a certain amount of money and if they lose, they should not bet more, that caught my attention and I told myself that That casino or the casinos that have that option are truly excellent with their customers. I think that if all casinos had that, it would be ideal, a protection system to prevent players from becoming addicted.



I think it is very important to learn to control yourself, rather than putting the responsibility on the casino. Man who can not control himself may spend all his money outside the casino, for example, in a bar, a party or elsewhere.

In my opinion, no casino feature is not capable of stopping a gambler who is trying to win back his losses, because he can easily bypass the system and simply move to another casino.

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I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
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I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.

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February 05, 2023, 06:45:15 PM
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I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
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 Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.
The business model of casinos is very straightforward, they offer a service and they earn money with it, however unlike the majority of the services where we can hire a person we can have a sense of loss after gambling, a sense of loss which is not there when you hire a plumber for example, then casinos need to strike a balance between getting as much money as possible from the clients and at the same time to keep those same clients happy, and in a way this explains all the bonuses casinos are willing to giveaway to diminish those negative feelings.

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February 05, 2023, 07:03:55 PM
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I don't believe online casinos enjoy seeing a gambler lose money.
~Snip
 Any thoughts?

I think they do want their "customers" to remain happy so that they will keep coming back. Although casinos, just like any other business care about their profits more than anything else. Which can be morally right or morally wrong, depending on the different perspectives. But they do need to make money if they wish to survive as a business, thats a fact.

But I do believe that they would not want to do anything that might anger their customers. Obviously, making sure their customers participate in responsible gambling is part of that.

They are placing those reminders as default reminders to the players.
It is like a friendly reminder to the gamblers so they won't be too hard to the casino if in case something goes awry.
So it seems they want to take care of their players by being mindful of what they do.
But of course, let's accept the fact that casinos want to earn profits and more.
As a gambler, it is still on your hands how you will contain yourself when you are already playing.
Casinos can't do anything about your gambling activities, however, if you self-exclude yourself, that's when casinos can interfere your gambling habits.
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