Why bitcoiners are not friendly physical?

[Rikafip]

Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

That's not necessarily true, its just that among bitcoiners there are more of those that value their privacy than among the general public who usually never even think about that, hence your impression.

if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service.  bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin

I would like to hear why are you comparing bitcoiners with religious groups? Bitcoin is not a religion that needs prophets or you to make pamphlets and share it around.

Why you brought up the "bitcoin is scam" if themselves uses bitcoin and claim to be "bitcoiners"?

You might have misunderstood OP. He is asking whether some are hiding that they are bitcoiners because other people around them think that bitcoin is a scam, not that they think that.

[Zlantann]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

I don't think Bitcoiners are ashamed of what they believe in because we are sure Bitcoin is not a scam. But I percieve that they are influenced by the ideology of the currency which is privacy or anonymity. I have also tried to meet some members of the forum but have successfully met only one. I also think that some of them have security concerns because Bitcoiners in some areas are perceived to be wealthy.

For me I am quite comfortable with the privacy issue because I am really enjoying it. This forum have really shaped my life that I am very much concerned about my privacy that you can hardly see me in any social media platform. Staying alone also help to prevent security concerns. Nevertheless, I think it is also important to put ideas and resources together when it comes to Bitcoin promotion, maybe this will be when it becomes important to meet each other

[lionheart78]

Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners?

Definitely not ashame to be a bitcoiners but these people are into bitcoins for some reason.  One of which is to be anonymous even though Bitcoin only offers pseudo-anonymity.  Second, I understand why they prefer to talk it out online, why bother to move from one place to another place when you can do it online?  As if everyone is close enough to be excited to have a get-together meeting. 

or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?

Not showing up in a face-to-face meeting does not mean we think that Bitcoin is a scam.  We just probably see the meeting face-to-face as unnecessary because of the availability of several online applications that enables each and everyone to have a good meeting.

Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

Not really afraid, it is just an act of precaution probably or they find it a waste to go up in a place drive from one place to another when they can have the comfort of their home and still can conduct a meeting and discussion with other people.

After all most of the people who are into Bitcoin value privacy so we should understand why many would not be in favor of having a face-to-face meeting physically.  Exposing oneself to others will just beat the purpose of using Bitcoin for privacy.

[Zanab247]

As was pointed out, two big concerns are privacy and safety. Meeting strangers to talk about investment/money is generally not a popular thing to do, as people there would have reasonable concerns of being targeted for robbery. Privacy is a big thing for many Bitcoiners as well, so outing oneself like this is not popular. But there do exist local meet ups in places where Bitcoin is popular enough. I've personally been to maybe a couple of crypto events, but they were educational, not social.

I guess, I take something reasonable from your write up, you really made me to understand the reason some bitcoiners don't want to see each other physical because, you don't know your part mind.  privacy and safety, I believe is a something people need to understand like the way I just understood it now.

but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

Why you brought up the "bitcoin is scam" if themselves uses bitcoin and claim to be "bitcoiners"?

If you wonder why, probably for security reasons depend on different aspects such as the location. If these are completely strangers who just meet online in just short period time then i will probably think twice attending such event. Unless i have close friends who knows the group of people attending there.

I don't think, you understand the question I asked here man because your respond sound like someone who don't read before quoting or responding to people topic. I never said Bitcoin is a scam, I only asked if they are among those that claim Bitcoin is a scam currency because, I trust Bitcoin more than fiat money.

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[TheUltraElite]

Many of the community members from the "Collectibles" section have actually met physically and had a cup of coffee and good laughs. Then again recently a well known member scammed their fellow members as well from this niche group. So you cannot really trust anybody on the internet and real life. Or in other words, you have to know how to keep your money safe.

Bitcoin is not a religion, it is a currency and should be kept limited to that much as far as attachment to it is considered. Just like money everyone is trying to steal bitcoin's because of its added anonymity.

It is thus safer to transact online but then we do have fintech conferences where fellow crypto users might end up meeting.

[PX-Z]

I don't think, you understand the question I asked here man because your respond sound like someone who don't read before quoting or responding to people topic. I never said Bitcoin is a scam, I only asked if they are among those that claim Bitcoin is a scam currency because, I trust Bitcoin more than fiat money.

Sounds like you are talking to your self and didn't understand what you have said as well as as mine, read again what i have said and what you have said.

I understand that you are referring to them, that's why i asked why you brought the idea of they are among of those who talk about "bitcoin is scam" if they are claiming they are bitcoiners, sounds contradicting. Sounds like "yeah, i use bitcoin regularly, but i think it is scam" lmao.

I might understand fully if you are referring to what @Rikafip had explained. But anyway, nothing to debate here..

[takuma sato]

Probably because they are paranoid they are going to get backstabbed and their networth stolen if they get too close to other people. That is why it's best to just never consider a Bitcoiner and never claim you own anything to anyone.

[vv181]

It is actually up to the people's situation of the condition and each person's security threat modelling. Some want to have relations with other bitcoiners in town or in their own country, some might just keep quiet about their belonging, each people will have a different reason. The religion comparison does not apply here, it is a completely different subject.

In some cases, in countries where the crime rate is high, it is very likely fewer people will join a meetup. Unless it is only specific meetups where each member is knowing each other background. Privacy and safety will be the things that decide whether some people want to take part in the meetup or not.

[Mr.right85]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

Perhaps you would as well want to know everyone of your church or Muslim members isn't it.
I don't know where you get the idea that bitcoiners or users that invest in cryptocurrency aren't friendly. I've got some friends of my own and we relate good.

If your so wanting of crypto friends, you could build one of your friends and from there have you fan base, it's that easy. You don't necessarily need to create something from here. Some users just won't share your ideas or wants to stay private for obvious trust related issues. It's not easy trusting a stranger when they've got the potency to do harm.

It's not necessarily going to be about scam all the time, you could be kidnapped or rubbed. Uts happened to crypto users before while trying to transact in person with other clients.

[Pmalek]

Maybe you are looking in the wrong places or the people you asked didn't get a positive vibe from you.
A good place to meet link-minded people is going to a bitcoin/crypto conference. Go to one and talk with people there. They might have come for the same reasons as you. If you have some shops in your area that accept crypto payments, you might meet someone there. Buying and selling P2P and face-to-face is another opportunity to get to know other bitcoiners.   

[The Cryptovator]

Instead of thinking negatively, think positively to find the solutions. A decentralized peer-to-peer cryptocurrency, bitcoin. If you look into why the founder of Bitcoin chose to remain anonymous, it will be easier for you to understand why users of the P2P currency prefer not to interact in person. However, the primary reason I dislike showing my face is privacy. I don't like it when people find out how much wealth I do have.

[doomloop]

As was pointed out, two big concerns are privacy and safety. Meeting strangers to talk about investment/money is generally not a popular thing to do, as people there would have reasonable concerns of being targeted for robbery. Privacy is a big thing for many Bitcoiners as well, so outing oneself like this is not popular. But there do exist local meet ups in places where Bitcoin is popular enough. I've personally been to maybe a couple of crypto events, but they were educational, not social.

I guess, I take something reasonable from your write up, you really made me to understand the reason some bitcoiners don't want to see each other physical because, you don't know your part mind.  privacy and safety, I believe is a something people need to understand like the way I just understood it now.

The majority of us already understand privacy and safety. That is the reason why many of us don't like to hang out outside to talk about Bitcoin but we mostly prefer this forum. We idolized Satoshi the founder of Bitcoin who also prefers to be anonymous but we are only worrying if the guy is still alive as he doesn't post updates anymore on this forum.

Another reason would be is that some of us are also introverts and are shy to socialize with other people physically and no we don't think Bitcoin is a scam because for what we are supporting it then? There are still people out there who are into Bitcoin which are outgoing. Just try to seek them in your locality.

[bitzizzix]

If they or the person is remote and unknown, I think it's something to worry about for security as well as privacy and discussing online is the right choice.
different from family members or close and known people because they have been known and known for a long time, and even then it is still done carefully and not too openly in privacy.
take the example of bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto and until now his whereabouts are unknown, just like bitcoiners and also all of us here even though we don't meet face to face we all still communicate well.

[eaLiTy]

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Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

The sole reason is privacy, there is nothing to be ashamed to be a bitcoiner and i have met some of the members in this space throughout the years and majority does not know my online alias and a very few identify me along with my alias. If you are really keen on meeting people you can join any blockchain conference in your area thereby keeping your online identify safe.

[serjent05]

I guess it has been established that some Bitcoiners avoid physical meetings due to security.  I also understand that many people involved in cryptocurrency value anonymity and privacy so they would rather have a meeting via online apps with video turned off for security purposes.

Not wanting to meet fellow bitcoiners does not constitute to being ashamed of being part of the Bitcoin community or being one who thinks Bitcoin is a scam.  If they think Bitcoin a scam then I am sure you won't see them engaging in cryptocurrency or Bitcoin markets and alike.  I believe these people are more on bein anonymous.

[ChiBitCTy]

I can’t agree with this statement at all. In fact those of us who collect physical bitcoins in the collectibles section have had many in person meet-ups, and will continue to do so. I’ve made quite a few friends via bitcoin, and haven’t really experienced what you’re referring to at all. Perhaps you’ve just not met the right people, and spending a little more time here and around everyone you will.

[_BlackStar]

Being safe and maintaining your privacy with bitcoin is choice. You may find it very easy to find crypto traders or minners out there and discuss with them about strategies and profit ^{[some of them are brought up as a topic on TV or content creators],} but you would hardly expect users of these forum to meet and discuss with you face to face if you are not someone they know.

There are few groups that also discuss the bitcointalk forum where the majority of members are forum users, but I'm not sure many of them would dare to reveal their forum accounts unless they really know you. So it's not problem to still prioritize privacy, it's a safe move.

[summonerrk]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

Here, people have been communicating very closely for years, while not knowing each other's names. And this is normal, since one of the main postulates of cryptocurrencies is anonymity. Everyone is equal and at the same time free. And after cryptocurrencies have become a profitable business, then showing your name and even more so your face is stupid. Why show your name and face to a potential tax inspector or extortionists.

[KingsDen]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

Op your observation is right. When I newly joined this forum I thought that before 1 year I will get to meet many people here in person. I think I made a post about it but people told me that it might not happen. I am gradually getting to 2yrs and I haven't met as many people I thought I'll meet and now the zeal of trying to hook up is no longer there.

The anonymous nature of Satoshi is the reason for this, since they said that we are all Satoshi. Maybe we are preserving his legacies.

[uneng]

Bitcoin enthusiasts are simply protecting their physical integrity. We are talking about a very valuable asset, and there are people who are here since the early years of bitcoin. Naturally they may bring for themselves a lot of undesired attention from criminals looking for easy money. Imagine the risks of meeting for real unknown people they know virtually in a bitcoin forum. Unless they trust the person they are going to meet through long years of acquaintanceship and online negotiations, I think it's really not a good idea.

And it's not about being unfriendly, because you can be friendly with people without knowing them in real life. It's about caring for their own safety.