Why bitcoiners are not friendly physical?

[akuntester1]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

I think you are generalizing all bitcoiners too much.
Not that all bitcoiners are closed people like some bitcoiners you meet in your area.
Because I don't think everyone can immediately get along with other people they just met, right?
Everyone has a different character.
There are people who have an open/extroverted character, they are people who can easily adapt and like to talk face to face.
There are also people who have a closed/introverted character who prefer to communicate via social media because they lack confidence when meeting and talking in person.
And I don't think everyone has the same thoughts or goals even though they have the same hobbies right?

In the conditions that you experience, I think of course they must have their own reasons why they want to communicate online.
Maybe they are trying to adapt to you and get to know you first through online discussions before they decide to have a face-to-face conversation.
Maybe at that time they did not have much time to discuss directly because of their busy schedule.
If they have free time, they will definitely take the time and talk face to face with you.
At least they still want to take the time to discuss with you online, right?

If you have the thought that they think Bitcoin is a scam why do you call them bitcoiners?

[batang_bitcoin]

They're not ashamed, it's possible that they just want to protect themselves personally because of the incidents that has happened before like with a $5 wrench attack.
It's like these incidents[1] that has been seen only for 2022.

[1] The 8 Worst Bitcoin ‘$5 Wrench Attacks’ of 2022

If you show yourself rich and have a lot of money, you will also be attacked as usual, not only bitcoin. There are many reasons why they do not want to make their bitcoin investments and holdings public. In my case, since bitcoins in my country are not legal yet, public use of bitcoins will be noticed by the government and possibly fined. So investors in my country don't want to meet publicly to talk about bitcoin, we don't want others to know because it's not legal yet.

Yeah, like the usual reaction that other people might be seen on them then they're just trying to remain lowkey. Those reasons that makes them stay in the shadows could be the real thing.
No one wants to get harmed just because they've been known an investor in bitcoin and has been too vocal with it. That's why, we can't blame anyone and including ourselves if there are get together like that and we're not showing publicly because of those harms that has been done to the others and, we don't want that to happen to us.

[Uncleminer]

I was never that social before getting into bitcoin so I'm not going to start now lol 😆

[xSkylarx]

Let's just think that they are introverted people or that they are very busy doing things. You should ask them why, because mostly their reasons are that they are shy or that it is an easier way to promote it online. Even if you asked me like that, I would say that I prefer it online since I do have things to do and don't have much time to have meetups. Though your purpose is good, but there are really introverted person or busy people, so you can't force them. Also, the audience in the online space is larger than in the physical one, as you need to approach them, and it also takes a lot of effort.

[Plaguedeath]

Not all Bitcoin enthusiasts are want to tell and publish their identity to everyone, I don't think it's a healthy habit since criminal and fraudster are start from people who don't care with their own privacy. You may think privacy isn't that important because there are not a lot case related with low privacy, but it's actually have a relation, but people just don't aware if privacy is really important for their life.

[ultrloa]

Let's just think that they are introverted people or that they are very busy doing things. You should ask them why, because mostly their reasons are that they are shy or that it is an easier way to promote it online. Even if you asked me like that, I would say that I prefer it online since I do have things to do and don't have much time to have meetups. Though your purpose is good, but there are really introverted person or busy people, so you can't force them. Also, the audience in the online space is larger than in the physical one, as you need to approach them, and it also takes a lot of effort.

Most introvert person doesn't like to talk anything especially if they don't know the person so maybe others think that they are not friendly because they are not talking and people have misconceptions about it. But for sure if you know those people they can talk once they trust you that you don't want to do any harm to them. But even if not an introvert for sure they also aware about the risk talking crypto things in public so I guess many people remain silent about it and make all of this discussion done privately especially on online because we know many people know already about crypto and if they know the people has a lot of holdings especially if they use their phone as their wallets then maybe they will be in danger with that scene.

So understand each other is the key so that you will not create any problem to other bitcoin user since investments is confidential matter.

[Odusko]

Bitcoin is not a scam and even those who hard a misconception about bitcoin are aware of that fact, and what make bitcoin users reluctant to meet face to face or becoming less vocal is the fact that bitcoin os not a crowd funding network and at that there is no need to preach anyone into picking interest in bitcoin.
Privacy is all that matters in Bitcoin!

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

You seems to have misunderstanding in the topic, privacy as bitcoin is privacy inclined, Bitcoin creator satoshi Nakamoto is unknown so then why do you have interest in meeting other people face to face, Bitcoin is trustless and at that once i don't have any deal with you there won't be needs for us to meet face to face.

[Ucy]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society. Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners?
... ..  .
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

In regards to the bolded, I'm hearing/reading such  for the first time... and I'm quite surprised.
Well, people who understand Bitcoin really well wouldn't be ashamed to meet face to face unless they are doing so for the sake of safety, privacy or anonymity. There are Bitcoin meet-ups, seminars, physical stores, p2p physical exchange, etc, they mostly seem very enthusiastic about meeting each other. I have even discussed Bitcoin with relatives and didn't notice any shame, they were always willing to be part of the Network... maybe because they just trust me or feel safe with me. By the way, if your intention for Bitcoin is bad or you have seen or have been fed with too many bad Bitcoin-related news/activities you'll probably not want physical meet up with people you don't know or trust.
And there is another possiblity, alot of people in  groups, forums on whatsapp or the internet generally wouldn't want to be identified.

[Pandu Geddon]

Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

if what you mean is related to members in the forum and they happen to be around you. Most people who are active in cyberspace (online) have closed personalities. though not all, more like that.
and with regards to forum members, of course, some will still choose to remain anonymous, or perhaps decide to stay behind the scenes. nothing wrong with that.
don't equate every community to a motorcycle community or something else. that like to gather in coffee shops and discuss.

[Smartprofit]

I was very happy  to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

In my opinion, people who are interested in bitcoin, as well as other cryptocurrencies, are very interesting, progressive and friendly people. 

They live both in the real world and in the virtual world at the same time.  At the same time, very often they do not strive for these two of their lives to intersect.  The sphere of finance is an intimate sphere. 

There is a proverb - "Money loves silence."  It means that financiers do not seek publicity. 

They are interested in financial flows, and not attention from other people. 

But at the same time, financiers are capable of real sincere friendship.

[D ltr]

as we know bitcoin owners are anonymous, no one knows if we have bitcoin, if btc ownership is discussed in public then the initial concept of bitcoin is lost, then that's the reason why they are not friendly when meeting physically and always say I don't have my btc only monitoring bitcoin developments

[so98nn]

We once had this locally. It was not through the bitcointalk forum but elsewhere, and local community was very happy about it. However, we just arranged to meet on outside location to hangout as "like minded" peeps from the crypto space. This was not about making exchanges with one another. Though after meeting we tried scanning our QR codes on wallets, talked about it, also imagined the future of crypto in our country and everything.

However, we did not felt that we need to meet in person in future if we ever want to trade bitcoins. I think the Pee to Peer platform / mechanism was meant with simple instructions of having no middle man, having no privacy issues and document / hassle free transactions. We still think it's not worth it to reach out the market physically and try our bitcoins. We are doing just amazing the way it is today.

[tjtonmoy]

Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

It's their personal choices. They are concern about their privacy and we should be too. We can not just give away our information to strangers. And also most of the holders are introverts, I think. Because I know myself. I am one of them, too. Extroverts can't stay staring to the screen for hours and hours and learn about bitcoin. This is just what I think.
And for discussing it online. Why do you feel confident on the writing test and fear the interview? It's the same. One thing you say, you can't take it back. But when you write, you can double-check it and fix your mistakes. Also research mid-way of your conversation. Not to mention, you can reach the whole world with internet. So why stick to your surroundings when you can reach the whole world?

I myself choose the same. I don't talk to people much, and I am good this way.

[Mahanton]

as we know bitcoin owners are anonymous, no one knows if we have bitcoin, if btc ownership is discussed in public then the initial concept of bitcoin is lost, then that's the reason why they are not friendly when meeting physically and always say I don't have my btc only monitoring bitcoin developments

We are aiming to be anonymous as much as possible on which it isnt surprising that bitcoiners would really be that keen on exposing themselves into their fellow bitcoiner too which it isnt really that surprising that they wouldnt really be that confident on making up some discussion or make transactions in between users who are involved on cryptocurrency.It isnt really that mean that they dont completely trust them but its better to be
that paranoid when it comes to your security rather than on being abducted or any other similar issues knowing that you've been dealing with crypto and these people might presume that
you are holding huge chunks on your stash which there's always that potential risks.

[Accardo]

Let's just think that they are introverted people or that they are very busy doing things. You should ask them why, because mostly their reasons are that they are shy or that it is an easier way to promote it online. Even if you asked me like that, I would say that I prefer it online since I do have things to do and don't have much time to have meetups. Though your purpose is good, but there are really introverted person or busy people, so you can't force them. Also, the audience in the online space is larger than in the physical one, as you need to approach them, and it also takes a lot of effort.

Most introvert person doesn't like to talk anything especially if they don't know the person so maybe others think that they are not friendly because they are not talking and people have misconceptions about it. But for sure if you know those people they can talk once they trust you that you don't want to do any harm to them. But even if not an introvert for sure they also aware about the risk talking crypto things in public so I guess many people remain silent about it and make all of this discussion done privately especially on online because we know many people know already about crypto and if they know the people has a lot of holdings especially if they use their phone as their wallets then maybe they will be in danger with that scene.

So understand each other is the key so that you will not create any problem to other bitcoin user since investments is confidential matter.

It's a nice point, but we are not expected to meet random persons. The both parties must have proven themselves to be close before moving forward to a scene. Like the introverts, they need to trust before he/she becomes an extrovert in their visitors presence. So, talking about Bitcoin meetings I don't think a well informed person would choose a dangerous venue for their meetings, so getting in trouble may not be on a high possibility. Like I said Depending on the kind of relationship they've built either in the forum or elsewhere.

[Cantsay]

Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

If they think Bitcoin is a scam they won't have involved themselves in the first place and if an announcement was to be made here instigating me and the rest of Bitcointalk users present in my locality to gather at a particular location to discuss how to go about with the promotion of Bitcoin in our community. I won't even bother to move a muscle, first of all that meeting poses danger to my finances and secondly I wouldn't even want strangers to know that I have Bitcoin in the first place or for them to know I'm what form my assets are. So Op there are so many reasons why someone might choose to discuss about financial issues online rather than to talk it face to face.

[Zanab247]

Keep going, you might find people who are more interested in meeting up. I think you’ve just interacted with people who enjoy a level of anonymity which is their right.

I will, because I always feel good whenever I see bitcoiners or crypto users physically and it make me to do what will make the person to believe that there are still good people on earth. But when I get there, I don't think there is anything that will stop me not to continue impacting people face to face or through internet to know more about Bitcoin.

[GiftedMAN]

Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

I think anyone who is ashamed to be called a bitcoin is either new in the cryptocurrency space or such person has encountered great losses during investment in bitcoin and this is possible when the person doesn't know much about bitcoin or the person is new to the cryptocurrency space. The only reason why a lot of people are scared of physical meetings with fellow members is for privacy and security purposes which is quite good and understandable Most people who see bitcoin investment as a scam are those who must have been misled as the process get scammed while trying to invest without having a good idea of what an investment is all about or people who were to invest an make quick money because they felt bitcoin investment is a quick money giving investment like Ponzi.

[milewilda]

Keep going, you might find people who are more interested in meeting up. I think you’ve just interacted with people who enjoy a level of anonymity which is their right.

I will, because I always feel good whenever I see bitcoiners or crypto users physically and it make me to do what will make the person to believe that there are still good people on earth. But when I get there, I don't think there is anything that will stop me not to continue impacting people face to face or through internet to know more about Bitcoin.

Its a good move and something commendable but this do works only on some people on where they do have the ample time on doing so and doesnt easily give up when they do face up some rejections or being that avoided. I have honestly trying out my best on sharing up information about bitcoin and its potential and utility but ending up on being scolded or shouted just be cause they do call it as a scam.
On that time i have decided to keep quiet and would really be just learning on my own and doesnt really share up the opportunity that it could bring.
Yeah, it did bring peace to me somehow. 

[Gallar]

not all bitcoiner members are like that, everyone has a different personality, maybe the bitcoiners you meet are introverted people, and they tend to prefer to be alone and not reveal their identity.
they must be confident in themselves, it's impossible for people who are not confident to become bitcoin members or bitcoin investors, because joining and investing in bitcoin requires high self-confidence.
in essence bitcoin members have different ways to spread bitcoin.