High Roller Tailing

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

If I'm not mistaken we have a similar thread wherein he mentions tailing bets regardless of high roller bets or not?

Copying Bet From Other Unknown Bettors, Is This a Good Practice?
Copying Bets From Other Bettors OFFICIALLY...

We even have thread as well with millions bet on a 1.01 odds and get get a big L.

So what I'm trying to say is that even if they are high rollers or big bettors it's not a guarantee that they will win.

Just like in your experiment 1/5 is a bad result.

[danherbias07]

Regardless if they are high rollers or not, the fact that they are choosing odds like that (over @1.90), I won't follow those.

Even with how good they are, the chosen odds will tell us that it's a risky pick.

Maybe at some point that they only bet, let's say around @1.50, I might consider tailing them if I want to bet on some sports I don't have any knowledge of.

Yeah, that's what I thought too. Maybe trying higher odds to win but lesser profits will enhance the chances of the bet hitting. I mean, those gamblers who take that kind of odds must've really thought it through before taking the bet.
It will just get nasty if those are just copied too from somewhere and the line already changed because the game is live. I may test 5 more on that version just to see if it works out.

Anyway, thank you @OP for setting an example not to follow any high-roller gambler I hope you recover your 4 losses soon.

No problem, but there are high rollers that I follow and not blindly, they are active on chat, and because I know the sport that he is betting with and I double-check it first before tailing the bet.

This is something i have tried in the past and even made a post about it on this forum, the same strategy OP used is the same strategy i used , that is copying bets from the high rollers with the believe that they must have researched well before deciding to wager such an exorbitant amount of money on a game, but amazingly, I discovered that most of this high rollers still end up loosing their bets as well, from my experiment also, I discovered that the high rollers that lose their money in bets are even greater in number than those who win.
Its really an amazing discovery I must say.

Wow. Thanks for sharing your experience.
So, this will really be a tough strategy if anyone is doing it or trying to do it, like me. Maybe it does require knowledge about any sport to be successful.
I may try just one more time and see how it goes.

[len01]

Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?
Because today I tried doing it just for an experiment and I took a bet on 5 games even without knowledge about them. I didn't put too much money into it because like I said, it's just for a trial.
It didn't end up well and these are the results. 4 losses and 1 win.


I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.
So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.
Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

this thread reminds me of a gambler trying to copy someone else's bet on last year's world cup match argentina vs saudi arabia. someone betting on Argentina with a very large bet of 2.3 BTC. after that there were gamblers who were passionate about the bet and tried to copy the bet and put in a large amount of $ 7k and in the end Argentina lost against saudi arabia.

it is one example of the carelessness of gamblers who ignore how important self-predictions are. I myself have tried and failed.
because people who bet on sports betting with a large number of bets, it is not certain that he has the right analysis and predictions. Sometimes there are new, very rich gamblers who just want to try to bet without analysis with a very large number of bets and what's worse, other gamblers copy the bets.

from incidents like this, other gamblers should understand more about the importance of self-predictions and analysis. don't believe in other people's predictions even if it's HighRollers, sometimes it's misleading.

[wxa7115]

Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?
Because today I tried doing it just for an experiment and I took a bet on 5 games even without knowledge about them. I didn't put too much money into it because like I said, it's just for a trial.
It didn't end up well and these are the results. 4 losses and 1 win.


I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.
So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.
Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Having a large amount of money does not mean those gamblers have high competence on those sports, 1k dollars per bet is a massive amount for me and most people, but it does not guarantee they are any good at sport betting and it seems your small experiment is proof of that.

Besides consider this, if beating the casino was as easy as just copying what those gamblers were doing, would the casino allow for anyone to copy what they are doing and lose money thanks to a feature they implemented?

[TheUltraElite]

It is a game of chance after all, although one might argue that the above posted betslips are for sports which is supposed to be EV+ game. But then again how many addicted gamblers actually do research on teams and then bet? Practically less than 10% of them all.

Hence by copying someone's gambling book you are only playing in the wild and you are carrying the same risk that you would carry if you bet on your own.

However you are not alone, because it is human nature to follow someone whom they see as successful and that is they reason why social media influencers are so popular and they manage to run coercion groups so easily. You have to be mature and accept that gambling on sports needs a ton of homework and then only you might have a chance of predicting correctly, added to it the luck factor.

[theskillzdatklls]

I don't think it will make much of a difference personally. It just matters if the bet is sharp or not sharp. And people like having fun gambling at small amounts or large amounts. People with lots of money make fun bets all the time and unless you know it can be hard to reliably do this.

[michellee]

I've never followed it. If I want to try betting on sports betting, I will place bets on sports that I know so I don't get confused about which one to choose. But it looks interesting to try. But seeing the amount of money they put in made me not confident because I usually only place small bets. Maybe I should see the people who placed the bets first and try to learn about the sport so I can understand even a little bit.

[yahoo62278]

If you're going to follow a bettor, copy their username. 1st you should probably write down their next 50 bets. It will be a small sample size, but see what their record is over those 50 bets and if they're above 70% win rate, they're worth tailing. I wouldn't risk betting just because they're wagering large amounts. They might just be betting for fun or see a good gamble.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I have never done so. Neither copying bettors, nor copy trading or anything like that. I prefer to be wrong with my mistakes.

If you are copying him for profits, it only makes sense to do it if you're willing to copy everything he does, every bet for months, otherwise there's no point. And even then you might catch him in months of a bad run and lose. Even if the bettor is good with proven long term profits you can't avoid the variance.

Or maybe if you have no idea about sports betting, it would also make sense to copy someone experienced even for just one bet, because his bets will be EV+, but don't complain if you lose that particular bet.

[Distinctin]

Sometimes you get lucky but there's no consistency on that, the best way to do this is to learn from your own style, at least you will grow and might be consistent in the long run. Not because they are betting huge amounts of money they are successful already, maybe they are just high rollers but they are losing a lot of money, or maybe that's what they can afford to lose.

As I said, it's better to learn from our own, and trust our bets so we will not blame other people for our losses but ourselves.

[Bitinity]

Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?

Never, I have no good reason to do so. I have tried following other's bet few times, but what I followed is not bets from high roller. I preferred to follow small bet with high odds because it is fun. Surprisingly I've won it once long time ago when I followed a $1 bet with odds more than 200x. Of course it was just a luck for me but I have no idea how the player choose the markets on that parlay bet, whether he did it randomly or he did it with many analysis and researches.

[robelneo]

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Their only edge is their being high rollers and can bet a big amount of money but when it comes to betting and analyzing they are just the same as all the bettors, you'll already gambling so why not gamble with your decision so if you win you enjoy the money you've won and at the same time enjoy the feeling that you've won because you got it right.

[danherbias07]

If you're going to follow a bettor, copy their username. 1st you should probably write down their next 50 bets. It will be a small sample size, but see what their record is over those 50 bets and if they're above 70% win rate, they're worth tailing. I wouldn't risk betting just because they're wagering large amounts. They might just be betting for fun or see a good gamble.

Copying a username will be a problem. Stake.com lets users put their name on hidden. I would love to do that too but there's no way it can be possible.
But there is one name I copied for like 3 times already in the Stake.com chatbox (not in the highrollers display) and it never failed me yet.
He ain't a high roller because mostly goes for $30-100 per bet on a parlay, and upon studying the parlay/bet builder he made, it really does have a high chance of winning unless injuries will happen.
Most of the time, 3-4 lines, and the total odds are just 2.20 - 2.50. Considering the number of bets it should be higher than that, but because he is trying to maximize the chance to hit it, the profits get lower.

Never, I have no good reason to do so. I have tried following other's bet few times, but what I followed is not bets from high roller. I preferred to follow small bet with high odds because it is fun. Surprisingly I've won it once long time ago when I followed a $1 bet with odds more than 200x. Of course it was just a luck for me but I have no idea how the player choose the markets on that parlay bet, whether he did it randomly or he did it with many analysis and researches.

I want to try this too but I don't know where to find them. There is no filter on Stake.com where you can search for those who are making long parlays with low amounts. It will be a big effort to monitor every bet that is being entered.

[Pamadar]

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Their only edge is their being high rollers and can bet a big amount of money but when it comes to betting and analyzing they are just the same as all the bettors, you'll already gambling so why not gamble with your decision so if you win you enjoy the money you've won and at the same time enjoy the feeling that you've won because you got it right.

Just the same with regular gambler indeed, they just have the advantage of having huge amount of money to bet and they are taking the big risk, but in terms of winning chances, it's all the same.

Might have that confidence to bet huge as they've got decent amount to continue betting while with ordinary
gambler, they are unable to push or to continue when they suffer huge loses.

[BitcoinTurk]

No, I have never done anything like copying other users' bets, nor do I think I will. Although I see gamblers making high profits by placing high stakes, it certainly doesn't make sense to copy their bets in any way without doing my own research or analysis. The reason for this is that gamblers who place bets with high amounts do not have a problem in terms of capital. These people may continue to bet with similar budgets after some losses, but as someone who personally bets using small capital for fun purposes, I may not be able to make up for it again in case of loss. For this reason, instead of copying the bets of these users directly, I prefer to bet by analyzing these bets.

[YOSHIE]

Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

As you know, example: Everton vs. Arsenal yesterday with a score of 1-0, users who bet on Arsenal fell, Everton won.

All you do is gamble, guide other people's bets, you are prepared to lose, you really can't do that.
• Have you ever seen how users who are successful in big bets, deceive other users who want to bet by following their copies, for example: they say bet on club A, fact they actually bet on club B, this is really annoying.

My advice, try to bet according to your abilities and with the instincts you have, don't be guided by copies, follow the development of clubs, players and so on, it's better if you do.

[gantez]

I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.

No problem about the amount if you have it. Is luck you hope for.

So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.

Not joking but only taking gamble chance to win. If you have winning the week before you can play huge the next week because of available cash with you 

Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

Yes. You can copy and be the lucky to join winners for the week

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Some bet without about it. They will use only odd appetite for it but no strategy.

[crwth]

I did this for a while and looked at the odds before I bet any money because that's how I would be successful in this type of betting strategy. I didn't continue because I had to use the money I was betting currently.

You have to be aware and never bet too much money that you will regret losing. Those high rollers betting probably have a lot of money to bankroll their whole gambling career. That's why they probably bet like that.

Make the decisions for them, but you should know the amount willing to lose every bet.

[darkangel11]

I usually don't do it, but at poker or blackjack tables you can place bets on other people and basically follow their betting live. One time I kept watching a game for a while and checking people's profiles and I found a guy who had over 60% all time win rate and observed him playing and he was really doing good, so I started adding my bets to his and after maybe an hour of going back and forth I had 20% more on my account. He left the table and I did the same thing. When I bet on sports I try to do my own thing, I don't follow others.

[rahmad2nd]

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I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

To be honest, i never tried to trail high rollers gamblers.
but I will take one example, and review it from the side of the gamble. referring to the first bet with over 1.5 goals, that's reasonable and very rational. why, I guess the gambler thought that Arsenal would at least be level at 1-1. because Arsenal controlled the game with 70% ball possession. but apparently, Arsenal could not take advantage of the momentum and missed many opportunities.

For the second bet, still about football and the same as the first. I also lost, in this gamble. however, that doesn't mean I follow gamblers who bet on high rollers. actually, there is a lot that we can review in this gamble and why the gamble we lost. but in truth, gamblers are not in joking mode especially those who bet with high rollers. It doesn't matter if you follow the bets made by other gamblers, the most important thing is that you also have to know and be prepared for the risks. because, in every bet that we predict and analyze beforehand, there are no exact, accurate calculations, like mathematical calculations. so that means, as long as the game is running anything can happen. and one thing is certain, in gambling, winning or losing, will always involve luck.