High Roller Tailing

[pixie85]

I did this for a while and looked at the odds before I bet any money because that's how I would be successful in this type of betting strategy. I didn't continue because I had to use the money I was betting currently.

You have to be aware and never bet too much money that you will regret losing. Those high rollers betting probably have a lot of money to bankroll their whole gambling career. That's why they probably bet like that.

Make the decisions for them, but you should know the amount willing to lose every bet.

Betting with the high rollers is assuming that people who have a lot of money made these money gambling or that people who bet a lot are smart and know how to do it. Being a high roller doesn't show who the person is, how smart, how good at gambling. You'd need access to their lifetime stats to know that. Many people bet a 100 every day and they don't care if they lose because they another 500 a day and that's more than enough for them.

I don't follow anyone when I gamble. The only good thing about following others is that if you lose you can always say that a high roller lost more because he bet 10 thousand and you bet only 100 on the same thing.

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[dothebeats]

I did this for a while and looked at the odds before I bet any money because that's how I would be successful in this type of betting strategy. I didn't continue because I had to use the money I was betting currently.

You have to be aware and never bet too much money that you will regret losing. Those high rollers betting probably have a lot of money to bankroll their whole gambling career. That's why they probably bet like that.

Make the decisions for them, but you should know the amount willing to lose every bet.

Betting with the high rollers is assuming that people who have a lot of money made these money gambling or that people who bet a lot are smart and know how to do it. Being a high roller doesn't show who the person is, how smart, how good at gambling. You'd need access to their lifetime stats to know that. Many people bet a 100 every day and they don't care if they lose because they another 500 a day and that's more than enough for them.

I don't follow anyone when I gamble. The only good thing about following others is that if you lose you can always say that a high roller lost more because he bet 10 thousand and you bet only 100 on the same thing.

This is absolutely true. This is why it's hard to follow high rollers because they will always have the budget to back up whatever losses they may incur along the way. They will always have a way to bounce back because they already have the money to fund their next bets and they wouldn't have any problems in betting on underdogs for a big win for the most part. I still tail bets, but usually on bettors that I know who wanted to win so bad just like I do. They do their research and have used logic before they lock their bets. Not saying that the high rollers don't do this, but most of the time they bet on some teams because they are a supporter of that team and nothing else.

[Silberman]

I usually don't do it, but at poker or blackjack tables you can place bets on other people and basically follow their betting live. One time I kept watching a game for a while and checking people's profiles and I found a guy who had over 60% all time win rate and observed him playing and he was really doing good, so I started adding my bets to his and after maybe an hour of going back and forth I had 20% more on my account. He left the table and I did the same thing. When I bet on sports I try to do my own thing, I don't follow others.

I have been away from poker for so long that this is the first time I heard about this, as we know unlike other games poker can indeed be a profitable occupation as long as you are very good at it, and since you are not playing against the house then there is no risk of your account being closed just because you are good at it, so it could be worth to look into this as if you can find a few good poker players you can bet on then you could make some money as well without knowing much about the game.

[Slow death]

Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

3 months ago or less because I don't remember exactly, but I also found out through this forum that it had statistics on the High Roller, so I decided to copy them, it was during the times of the world cup games, I saw a guy who had bet 2000$ that argentina would win arabia, and i decided to copy his bet, to my surprise his bet was lost because argentina lost

The next day I once again went to copy another High Roller and this time I also lost, I started to wonder why certain people were spending so much money on meaningless bets? I discovered that they were meaningless bets because later I decided to research the games they bet on and I realized that they bet on meaningless games

[KTChampions]

Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?
Because today I tried doing it just for an experiment and I took a bet on 5 games even without knowledge about them. I didn't put too much money into it because like I said, it's just for a trial.
It didn't end up well and these are the results. 4 losses and 1 win.


I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.
So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.
Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

I think that if you reflect on what you did (and what the result got), you yourself will understand the naivety of your actions. Would you really say if you won all 5 bets that "this strategy works and these guys who make big bets know exactly what will happen"? The result is unknown even for bookmakers which operate with tens of millions of dollars per game (and maybe more) and you are waiting for a "signal" from simple bettors who bet "serious" amounts?

[Fortify]

Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?
Because today I tried doing it just for an experiment and I took a bet on 5 games even without knowledge about them. I didn't put too much money into it because like I said, it's just for a trial.
It didn't end up well and these are the results. 4 losses and 1 win.


I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.
So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.
Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

You have to be extremely careful when following people on the internet because you don't know what is driving them or what their personal circumstances are. You might have a spoiled kid who's parents have given them an allowance of ten thousand a week, who simply throw up some bets on a twitter feed and pretend like they pick winners (then subtly delete losers later on, to give a false impression). Then you might have shills working for these casino/sportbook companies trying to discreetly drum up new business with a form of (pretty lousy) advertising. Then again, you might come across 1 out of a 1,000 people, who if you still have any money left by this point, might genuinely win 51% of their bets but you're probably not going to copy them long enough to make it worthwhile - there can be huge variance in such betting.

[chaser15]

That was a brilliant idea but for me, I found it's riskier even if these guys are so-called high rollers or high bettors. Sports matches are unpredictable even how professional these guys are and looking at the screenshot that OP provided, the provided odds can be considered risky odds.

I'm sure these guys do have a good winning rate but it's just that OP got a bad timing copying their bet.

Out of curiosity, any good reason why should we consider betting on other sports that we don't know?

[redsun114]

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

Their only edge is their being high rollers and can bet a big amount of money but when it comes to betting and analyzing they are just the same as all the bettors, you'll already gambling so why not gamble with your decision so if you win you enjoy the money you've won and at the same time enjoy the feeling that you've won because you got it right.

I think not all rich people gamble high but many of them are in fact budgeting their money and this is why they achieve what they have now. On the other hand, there are poor people who can risk more especially in sports betting because they are too confident about their picks. If we don't have a knowledge in sports betting then it's better to do it this way than just betting on your own randomly.

We are already gambling so why we will gamble more when there is still a way to reduce the risk. Other than the strategy that we did earlier, reducing the amount that we are betting is also one of the ways to reduce the risk. It is a must though, with or without experience/knowledge.

[Viscore]

I used to follow bets from high rollers that post their bets and it's only because that high roller was always hitting his bets and others started following him as well. It worked out for me at the time but I remember that high roller had a lot of losses since he also made parlays and teasers aside from the usual single bets. Even if someone's successful at this strategy it's only a matter of time until they lose since there are too many high rollers to follow and most of them don't show their usernames on the feed so you can't tally their individual record.

Most of the high rollers have already high experiences in betting that’s why they are confident to place high bets because they have well research on the match being placed. That sometimes following them could also lead us to succeed. But it’s not all the time that they are going to win, gambling is gambling, even veterans also make wrong bets and lose their money. That is why if we are not sure where to bet, then do not go into random betting or follow a high roller, study first the match and know the background of each team, that way you will have better idea which team have high probability to win and which team will mostly lose. This is good for sportsbetting,   but for other games, still bet with caution to avoid blaming others once you lose your money.

[Vaskiy]

First of all it is wrong to bet on the sports or game in which you don't have knowledge.
Second thing, users with high bet amount are not here to win, but they're to enjoy gambling.
Third thing, atleast you should've researched little about the players involved and the win probability.

Finally a good learning for OP as well as we people that even when we do copy betting we need to have
some basic knowledge about the games.

[Yogee]

I have only followed some bet predictions by some forum members here. Those high rollers are probably just gamblers like us but with a bigger bankroll and other resources. They probably have access to some special network too that gives them the best information available but not the kind of info on rigged or fixed matches.

[coin-investor]

First of all it is wrong to bet on the sports or game in which you don't have knowledge.
Second thing, users with high bet amount are not here to win, but they're to enjoy gambling.
Third thing, atleast you should've researched little about the players involved and the win probability.

Finally a good learning for OP as well as we people that even when we do copy betting we need to have
some basic knowledge about the games.

Every bet has a history behind it, these high rollers bet because they also copy from other bets they just want to try their luck or they have done their research, so you are really gambling your money in an event that you have a good chance of winning if you dig your own research and he really knows the game, its good to experiment but int he end it's preferable to bet with your own analysis, this is not a lottery game but a game of analysis.

[romero121]

I have only followed some bet predictions by some forum members here. Those high rollers are probably just gamblers like us but with a bigger bankroll and other resources. They probably have access to some special network too that gives them the best information available but not the kind of info on rigged or fixed matches.

Maybe following such persons through our forum is good than following high rollers blank without proper understanding. I've followed bets suggested in a thread and it was mentioned as fixed match. It looked like some kind of fraud and tried with small amount and I was able to win the game, that too on odds above 2. Rather than tail betting can find something trusted like fixed matches.

[famososMuertos]

 I have never done it in sports betting and I have never really thought about it, I think I would lose the essence of my entertainment, which is part of my objective, obviously there is excitement about winning, but I think that is what happens when you go deeper or look for alternatives additional, which is what it should be, but I think that first of all you have to see a line of long bets or see their habits as a reference.

I'll give you for example, and I'm not a HR but today I won betting on Mallorca, I got out of that constant line of play and I'm quite given to not making that type of bet, it was something based on information (always) and intuition, but In my data for those types of bets, I have a very high degree of accuracy when I make these types of bets against the odds.

It's not that I want to go against the odds, no, it's that they just come out, if you check my sports betting graph you'll see very pronounced peaks, but it wouldn't be because I put a lot of money, where by the way I'm also very constant in the size of bets, but I come out of that constant win factor of 1.3-1.7, so if you check those peaks you find yourself with bets greater than 3.5.

In this sense, for example, if I see that a HR wins a game like the one mentioned, I simply ignore it, unless I know him very well, I can try to "burn" some money with his bet.

So even if you follow that "technique" you should try to bet to your measure, because you always only see the tip of the iceberg of that bet, perhaps he has a reason that is a priority for him and that perhaps in all his bets he compensates in some way or maybe not, as mentioned above only put $1000 for fun.

And in that sense it is a lot of money for you, it is, but perhaps $1000 represents in the equivalence of "$" or bankroll as about $10 for that player.

Therefore, you think that the fact of putting $1000 in a bet means that this person is very knowledgeable or has inside information, but it is not like that, 99.9% of the time.

A bet of $1000 or $1 on the goal of winning, most of the time, should be determined by the prevailing statistical information that leads you to get the best odds, not the amount involved.

Sometimes you bet more $$ for a simple reason, the bankroll.

[coolcoinz]

I rather not do it because high bet doesn't mean the person is going to win, although it has some vibe to it when you see someone placing a large bet you think that guy has to be confident in that outcome. There's always the other side of the medal though. Maybe that guy places a bet that's 1% of his paycheck. You think it's big money and to him it's pennies.
You can compare this to what Tate is doing. He was buying cars worth fortune just to show off because he had so much money. I wouldn't be able to afford one of those cars, so I could say that buying such car is a good idea since he's doing it, but it's not. Spending millions of dollars on cars that depreciate in value is a terrible idea even when you're rich. Rich people don't always know what they're doing and they don't always fall on all 4

[goinmerry]

Maybe OP needs to do a more test run for the long term. That will give us a clearer view if tailing at those so-called high bettors will be a success or not.

Since even professionals even losing in sports betting, the key here is their average winning rate. There might be a day that we tail on a certain bet but unfortunately loses it but the next day we decided not to follow them, they have now won it.

But that requires patience and more money before seeing a good result.

[ralle14]

Most of the high rollers have already high experiences in betting that’s why they are confident to place high bets because they have well research on the match being placed. That sometimes following them could also lead us to succeed. But it’s not all the time that they are going to win, gambling is gambling, even veterans also make wrong bets and lose their money. That is why if we are not sure where to bet, then do not go into random betting or follow a high roller, study first the match and know the background of each team, that way you will have better idea which team have high probability to win and which team will mostly lose. This is good for sportsbetting,   but for other games, still bet with caution to avoid blaming others once you lose your money.

That used to be my view on high rollers but now I view them more or less the same as any regular gambler because sometimes I'll see some high rollers tail small gamblers that provide the best reasoning behind their picks.

I agree with the last part that you said though, it's one of the things that most gamblers tend to forget when tailing the bets of other gamblers as some of them would even take the effort to discourage others by sending toxic messages instead of blaming themselves for the loss.

[Nrcewker]

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

If it’s your hard earned money, then why you are acting on other people’s actions? I mean if by chance you win you will praise your luck, and if by chance you lose, you will curse those high rollers whose bets you copied. Thank God, the bets value wasn’t higher this time. I won’t really suggest to bet like this. It would be better if you do good amount of research for that game and bet on it. And believe me if you have knowledge on that sports, then easily you can predict the winner if you have a good observation. Make money with your own knowledge and confidence.

[danherbias07]

Maybe OP needs to do a more test run for the long term. That will give us a clearer view if tailing at those so-called high bettors will be a success or not.

Since even professionals even losing in sports betting, the key here is their average winning rate. There might be a day that we tail on a certain bet but unfortunately loses it but the next day we decided not to follow them, they have now won it.

But that requires patience and more money before seeing a good result.

That's the problem as I check on the names of the bettors, it's all hidden. There's a feature at Stake.com where you could hide almost everything.
But I do get your point. Maybe I should start looking for high rollers who don't hide their profiles and follow them instead.
As for trying again, I have not done it yet. For now, I am trying to accumulate more and there's something else that intrigues me to do rather than this.

If it’s your hard earned money, then why you are acting on other people’s actions? I mean if by chance you win you will praise your luck, and if by chance you lose, you will curse those high rollers whose bets you copied. Thank God, the bets value wasn’t higher this time. I won’t really suggest to bet like this. It would be better if you do good amount of research for that game and bet on it. And believe me if you have knowledge on that sports, then easily you can predict the winner if you have a good observation. Make money with your own knowledge and confidence.

No worries I can control it.
As I said in my first post, this is just out of curiosity if there are real people who are doing it. I am trying to find out the success or failure rate of their bets upon just tailing the high rollers. I know my sport and how analysis works to enhance the chance to win the game. It's the intriguing part that made this question pop out.

I think that if you reflect on what you did (and what the result got), you yourself will understand the naivety of your actions. Would you really say if you won all 5 bets that "this strategy works and these guys who make big bets know exactly what will happen"? The result is unknown even for bookmakers which operate with tens of millions of dollars per game (and maybe more) and you are waiting for a "signal" from simple bettors who bet "serious" amounts?

Reading the last sentence of the opening post will answer your question.

[BenCodie]

Have you guys tried tailing high rollers with their bets on sports and electronic sports?
Because today I tried doing it just for an experiment and I took a bet on 5 games even without knowledge about them. I didn't put too much money into it because like I said, it's just for a trial.
It didn't end up well and these are the results. 4 losses and 1 win.


I copied the bet of users who are mostly playing above $1000 per bet. Some 1 Ethereum and the other with 0.1BTC if I remember it right.
So I thought, these gamblers are not joking about their bets, they must have researched hard and knew who has the highest chance to win or the end result of the scores.
Question: Has anyone been successful in doing this?

I know it's not right to bet on a game without knowing about it, I am just curious if someone does this kind of strategy.

The level of seriousness of bets wouldn't necessarily be determined by the amount. It is reasonable to assume that $1,000 to someone with $100,000 is equally as valued to $10 for someone with $1000. The rationale or thought would be the same for the person betting $10 as someone betting $1,000. I think that the trial that you conducted somewhat proves this theory.