Your college degree means that you are not educated.

[jvanname]

I was a mathematics professor, and as a professor, I must regard colleges are extremely unprofessional institutions that not only promote violence against me but also refuse to acknowledge that they are the problem. The only proper response to this situation is for people to collectively regard college degrees as very bad and college graduates as uneducated. The only thing that will get me to change my opinion about these wretched institutions is for the institutions to acknowledge that there is a problem and take steps to solve this problem.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[Nobility17]

I was a mathematics professor, and as a professor, I must regard colleges are extremely unprofessional institutions that not only promote violence against me but also refuse to acknowledge that they are the problem. The only proper response to this situation is for people to collectively regard college degrees as very bad and college graduates as uneducated. The only thing that will get me to change my opinion about these wretched institutions is for the institutions to acknowledge that there is a problem and take steps to solve this problem.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Firstly, what's your concept of education?? And if the reason to change the opinion stated is acknowledging that there's a problem and taking necessary steps then I will say this unapologetically that Joseph Van Name is uneducated

[Fiatless]

I was a mathematics professor, and as a professor, I must regard colleges are extremely unprofessional institutions that not only promote violence against me but also refuse to acknowledge that they are the problem. The only proper response to this situation is for people to collectively regard college degrees as very bad and college graduates as uneducated. The only thing that will get me to change my opinion about these wretched institutions is for the institutions to acknowledge that there is a problem and take steps to solve this problem.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

With all due respect professor, the reason why people should disregard university degree or qualifications is because they promote or promoted violence against you. Don't you think it's a selfish request? Your case should be used to generalize about universities all over the world. You have not also told us what transpired between the university and you that let to the violence allegation. For me universities are institutions that teach educands specific or general skills that could help them to be productive and law abiding. Although there are some of them that promote other negative vices based on the educational goals of the country.

[jvanname]

Nobility. Um. I have a Ph.D. which is a bit better than a stupid Bachelor's degree. And you are uneducated and evil, because you are the one here who is promoting violence against me because you are an absolutely terrible worthless pile of rubbish.

"Don't you think it's a selfish request?"-Oh f*** you. You are just a violence promoting Nazi who just wants to make any excuse possible to promote violence against me. Nobody is becoming a productive member of society by being a part of an institution that refuses to acknowledge that promoting violence against me is wrong. Instead, those people are simply becoming bloodthirsty Nazis.

[Queentoshi]

I was a mathematics professor, and as a professor, I must regard colleges are extremely unprofessional institutions that not only promote violence against me but also refuse to acknowledge that they are the problem. The only proper response to this situation is for people to collectively regard college degrees as very bad and college graduates as uneducated. The only thing that will get me to change my opinion about these wretched institutions is for the institutions to acknowledge that there is a problem and take steps to solve this problem.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Your college degree means you are educated, I will disagree with you based on my own opinion please, getting educated doesn't mean you are building only one career rather it means you learning more things about people way of living and how to relate in the outside world, getting a college degree does not mean your future will be built from that career, rather from that college degree you can build different career from it. So I will say get a college degree but do not let that degree make you focus on one particular career, rather let that college degree be an open door to multiple careers.

[Nobility17]

Nobility. Um. I have a Ph.D. which is a bit better than a stupid Bachelor's degree. And you are uneducated and evil, because you are the one here who is promoting violence against me because you are an absolutely terrible worthless pile of rubbish.

"Don't you think it's a selfish request?"-Oh f*** you. You are just a violence promoting Nazi who just wants to make any excuse possible to promote violence against me. Nobody is becoming a productive member of society by being a part of an institution that refuses to acknowledge that promoting violence against me is wrong. Instead, those people are simply becoming bloodthirsty Nazis.

And that's why I'll still say it over again "jvannane you're uneducated"
Why then did you go up to achieving such feat as an academic?? Didn't you do research, thesis and dissertations before being decorated as a Ph.D holder?? Why didn't you become a doctorate degree holder by ignoring schooling and certifications??
Now you're referring to me as evil and uneducated. I'll put it to you that you don't know what education is.

[jvanname]

Nobility. There we go with the Nazi talk again.

[sunsilk]

Yeah, there's a deeper meaning about being educated. It's not just all about the academic achievements and stuff, whether it's a college degree, a masteral or doctoral.

But it's more of being how well mannered a person is and that's I think what you're implying to say. I used also to think about that when I see professional folks that have good job titles but when its come to their attitude, they fail.

[Nobility17]

Yeah, there's a deeper meaning about being educated. It's not just all about the academic achievements and stuff, whether it's a college degree, a masteral or doctoral.

But it's more of being how well mannered a person is and that's I think what you're implying to say. I used also to think about that when I see professional folks that have good job titles but when its come to their attitude, they fail.

But that's not his point. He's only emphasising on individual differences that one portrays which we know has nothing to do with degrees and certificates

[jvanname]

Nobility. If we cannot trust universities to not promote violence against me or at least recognize that promoting violence against me is wrong, then we most surely cannot trust the graduates of these institutions to be competent at anything except for harming others.

[Nobility17]

Nobility. If we cannot trust universities to not promote violence against me or at least recognize that promoting violence against me is wrong, then we most surely cannot trust the graduates of these institutions to be competent at anything except for harming others.

Are you referring to universities globally or within a specific region?? Because with no disrespect to your social status which I'm not interested in anyway, what point are you trying to prove??

[Hispo]

Huh, I don't want to be rude or anything but all this situation you are describing sounds like a personal problem you are having with a specific institution which may done something wrong to you.

Only because you had a bad experience in a university does not mean the concept of higher education is a wrong one and we should not generalize all of them because of one. We need more education and apply it to the problems of the society.

[BADecker]

Your college degree doesn't mean you are educated. What it means is that you were willing to live with college indoctrination long enough to get a degree from that college.

It's all about being a slave to the system long enough so that the system thinks you will tell others that the system is good.

There are lots of educated people who wouldn't touch college with a 50-foot pole. It's the reason why trade schools are so successful.

[af_newbie]

Generalizations are almost always wrong.

If you have a degree from a top-tier university (in a civilized, non-corrupted country) and you graduated with a 4.0 GPA,
it is pretty much guaranteed that you are well-educated.

The vast majority of university graduates end up with only superficially understanding the subjects
that they were studying.

But if you are passionate about the program you are pursuing, and you are talented, it is
just a matter of time before you become very well educated.

Do you need a university degree to be well-educated? Almost always the answer is yes.

[jvanname]

Huh, I don't want to be rude or anything but all this situation you are describing sounds like a personal problem you are having with a specific institution which may done something wrong to you.

Only because you had a bad experience in a university does not mean the concept of higher education is a wrong one and we should not generalize all of them because of one. We need more education and apply it to the problems of the society.

I am not talking to you because you are a Nazi.

"Huh, I don't want to be rude or anything but all this situation you are describing sounds like a personal problem you are having with a specific institution which may done something wrong to you.

Only because you had a bad experience in a university does not mean the concept of higher education is a wrong one and we should not generalize all of them because of one. We need more education and apply it to the problems of the society."-Then why the fuck would these institutions be unable to even recognize that there is something wrong? This is because these institutions promote the violence because they are filled with the most bloodthirsty of chlurmcks. The only reason why you do not see their inability to apologize or recognize wrongdoing as a problem is that you yourself are a worthless bloodthirsty chlurcmklet who has absolutely no value to society.

"Generalizations are almost always wrong.

If you have a degree from a top-tier university (in a civilized, non-corrupted country) and you graduated with a 4.0 GPA,
it is pretty much guaranteed that you are well-educated."

-And this 'education' means nothing except for indoctrination and Nazism as long as these institutions refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem. What about people from a second tier university? Are they uneducated then? Are you saying that only a few people who ever went to a university are educated? If you are, then you are essentially proving my point. If anyone has been educated from a university, it would be me instead of any of you chlurcmklets who I cannot even have a conversation with.

"Do you need a university degree to be well-educated? Almost always the answer is yes."-You are wrong because universities fucking promote violence and refuse to apologize. If you have a degree, then I will only believe that you are uneducated unless you demonstrate otherwise. And this demonstration begins by taking that stupid ass degree and setting it on fire because universities fucking promote violence.

"It's all about being a slave to the system long enough so that the system thinks you will tell others that the system is good."-This is almost as torturous as drinking a liter of gasoline and then lighting one's farts on fire when the gasoline passes through.

If universities were worth anything at all, they would fucking apologize or acknowledge that there is a problem. Universities refuse to apologize, so we should all consider the people who went to these institutions to be extremely uneducation; and by uneducated, I mean fucking stupid.

[af_newbie]

Huh, I don't want to be rude or anything but all this situation you are describing sounds like a personal problem you are having with a specific institution which may done something wrong to you.

Only because you had a bad experience in a university does not mean the concept of higher education is a wrong one and we should not generalize all of them because of one. We need more education and apply it to the problems of the society.

I am not talking to you because you are a Nazi.

"Huh, I don't want to be rude or anything but all this situation you are describing sounds like a personal problem you are having with a specific institution which may done something wrong to you.

Only because you had a bad experience in a university does not mean the concept of higher education is a wrong one and we should not generalize all of them because of one. We need more education and apply it to the problems of the society."-Then why the fuck would these institutions be unable to even recognize that there is something wrong? This is because these institutions promote the violence because they are filled with the most bloodthirsty of chlurmcks. The only reason why you do not see their inability to apologize or recognize wrongdoing as a problem is that you yourself are a worthless bloodthirsty chlurcmklet who has absolutely no value to society.

"Generalizations are almost always wrong.

If you have a degree from a top-tier university (in a civilized, non-corrupted country) and you graduated with a 4.0 GPA,
it is pretty much guaranteed that you are well-educated."

-And this 'education' means nothing except for indoctrination and Nazism as long as these institutions refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem. What about people from a second tier university? Are they uneducated then? Are you saying that only a few people who ever went to a university are educated? If you are, then you are essentially proving my point. If anyone has been educated from a university, it would be me instead of any of you chlurcmklets who I cannot even have a conversation with.

"Do you need a university degree to be well-educated? Almost always the answer is yes."-You are wrong because universities fucking promote violence and refuse to apologize. If you have a degree, then I will only believe that you are uneducated unless you demonstrate otherwise. And this demonstration begins by taking that stupid ass degree and setting it on fire because universities fucking promote violence.

"It's all about being a slave to the system long enough so that the system thinks you will tell others that the system is good."-This is almost as torturous as drinking a liter of gasoline and then lighting one's farts on fire when the gasoline passes through.

If universities were worth anything at all, they would fucking apologize or acknowledge that there is a problem. Universities refuse to apologize, so we should all consider the people who went to these institutions to be extremely uneducation; and by uneducated, I mean fucking stupid.

Ok, I'll bite.

How do universities promote violence?

and more specifically how is the EECS program at MIT promoting violence?

Be specific. Which part of this program promotes violence?

[Lordhermes]

Huh, I don't want to be rude or anything but all this situation you are describing sounds like a personal problem you are having with a specific institution which may done something wrong to you.

Only because you had a bad experience in a university does not mean the concept of higher education is a wrong one and we should not generalize all of them because of one. We need more education and apply it to the problems of the society.

I share same belief with you, don't use your personal experience to general. Every institute in the world had its policy and management issues.  School it's self is a process and a continuous programme it doesn't have an end. Even if you read to the level of a professor you still can know all, if someone stop at first degree and he /she can't afford to proceed forward doesn't make them a failure.
Violence has been part of the society, and the university is a Micro part of the society. The university is not a building but the people in it.

[sunsilk]

Yeah, there's a deeper meaning about being educated. It's not just all about the academic achievements and stuff, whether it's a college degree, a masteral or doctoral.

But it's more of being how well mannered a person is and that's I think what you're implying to say. I used also to think about that when I see professional folks that have good job titles but when its come to their attitude, they fail.

But that's not his point. He's only emphasising on individual differences that one portrays which we know has nothing to do with degrees and certificates

Yes, I understand his point.

The product that comes from the universities and colleges are diverse. They may have their own ways of teaching and they're enforcing it while the students are staying on the school.

But once they come out, it really changes. The differences are the only thing that we can see from each individual and being educated is subjective on how people believes on how it should be.

That's why I've said that it's not just all about those academic stuff and certificates.

[BADecker]

Generalizations are almost always wrong.

If you have a degree from a top-tier university (in a civilized, non-corrupted country) and you graduated with a 4.0 GPA,
it is pretty much guaranteed that you are well-educated.

The vast majority of university graduates end up with only superficially understanding the subjects
that they were studying.

But if you are passionate about the program you are pursuing, and you are talented, it is
just a matter of time before you become very well educated.

Do you need a university degree to be well-educated? Almost always the answer is yes.

The confidence in the idea that you are well educated is what a university degree imparts. It doesn't mean that youARE well educated, or that the university taught real knowledge.

Consider all those doctors who followed university training by sticking people on ventilators for Covid, and killed them that way.

[Frankolala]

You sound self-centered from your own perspective why colleges are not educational institutions. From my own view, anybody that wants to go to the university must pass through college, which is the secondary education before tertiary education, just like you did. So I don't see anything bad if you went to college and can't afford to go the university.

It is not everybody that must go to the university but it is compulsory that everyone must go to college. All fingers are not equal,what matters most is that you are a professional in one field or the other to add impact in the society. Everybody is equal irrespective of their educational background. Any college graduate is educated,uneducated people are referred to as illiterates.