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February 11, 2023, 06:53:13 PM
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Isn't the ban on staking in the USA supposed to be bullish for bitcoin and other proof of work crypto projects? I only heard not to stake on centralized exchanges but not the same for mining in the USA, so if you are in America you are free to fire on your Asic miners.  All Hail to PoW algorithm.

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February 11, 2023, 07:16:44 PM
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Isn't the ban on staking in the USA supposed to be bullish for bitcoin and other proof of work crypto projects?

How is that supposed to be, they ban bitcoin or not isn't a determinant for its adoption since it's a decentralized network that works with the blockchain technology, there are no other proof of work that is recognized aside bitcoin, other cryptocurrencies were PoS as long as they were centralized, other crypto projects uses smart contracts and the likes but bitcoin mining is basically strict on PoW.

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February 11, 2023, 07:35:58 PM
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Any cryptocurrency restriction won't actually benefit Bitcoin. It's because the ruling is against cryptocurrency and is not at all bullish. Consequently, Bitcoin won't respond favorably in any case. When they are banned from staking, you would think that investors would go to Bitcoin. But due to decentralization, they would stake any other way. Bitcoin does not have a staking system, therefore we shouldn't get too worked up about the restriction on staking.

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February 11, 2023, 07:55:56 PM
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Since Bitcoin has nothing to do with staking, the ban has no positive impact on Bitcoin and its holders. Wherever you see any form of Bitcoin staking, be careful, or better yet, run away, because they are purely centralized and can steal all staked funds anytime in the form of freezing.

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February 11, 2023, 08:07:36 PM
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Isn't the ban on staking in the USA supposed to be bullish for bitcoin and other proof of work crypto projects? I only heard not to stake on centralized exchanges but not the same for mining in the USA, so if you are in America you are free to fire on your Asic miners.  All Hail to PoW algorithm.
Well, unfortunately, based on how I understand things to be or work, any ban in bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general send a negative message to the brains of individuals, it be clouds them that it becomes extremely difficult to see the brighter side of such a ban, so personally myself, I am not surprised the way investors perceived the US stands on staking, and besides, bitcoin also can be staked on several platforms, the current correction in the price of bitcoin, which have also affected the entire market might be due to investors unstaking their bitcoins from centralized platform and selling - this is my assumptions.

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All the crap that happens in crypto is always due to problems with altcoins aka scam coins. Terra Luna, ethereum, Blockfi, FTX token, Celsius, etc.

Bitcoin has nothing to do with these garbage tokens, and yet whenever some altcoin implodes or does something bad it brings down everything even though it had nothing to do with bitcoin. It should not be that way but unfortunately it is. Most people in crypto are stupid and don't understand this. The fundamentals of bitcoin is still as sound as it ever was.


Hopefully one day soon bitcoin will decouple from the rest of the crap coin casino and the stock market. Hopefully all the crap coins will be banned or deemed securities which is what they are. All the crap that happens in the market has nothing to do with bitcoin. But people who invest in altcoins are stupid and just want to gamble and play the altcoin casino for short term gains but usually end up losing their shirt.

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February 11, 2023, 08:36:34 PM
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Any cryptocurrency restriction won't actually benefit Bitcoin. It's because the ruling is against cryptocurrency and is not at all bullish. Consequently, Bitcoin won't respond favorably in any case. When they are banned from staking, you would think that investors would go to Bitcoin. But due to decentralization, they would stake any other way. Bitcoin does not have a staking system, therefore we shouldn't get too worked up about the restriction on staking.

That is only if you consider other cryptos to be on the level of bitcoin.
I believe that bitcoin is above the rest and it is above the rest in the eyes of the regulators. Bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency recognized as commodity, while PoS altcoins are securities, even if they aren't yet labelled as such.

Another thing you should consider is how much of the total crypto market cap would go to bitcoin if there was no altcoins. 30%? 50%? Think about it. Bitcoin doesn't need altcoins, but altcoins need bitcoin.

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February 11, 2023, 08:38:02 PM
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All the crap that happens in crypto is always due to problems with altcoins aka scam coins. Terra Luna, ethereum, Blockfi, FTX token, Celsius, etc.

Bitcoin has nothing to do with these garbage tokens, and yet whenever some altcoin implodes or does something bad it brings down everything even though it had nothing to do with bitcoin. It should not be that way but unfortunately it is. Most people in crypto are stupid and don't understand this. The fundamentals of bitcoin is still as sound as it ever was.

Since most people think that Bitcoin represents the cryptocurrency industry, so anything that happens within the industry will affect the Bitcoin market.  I do not know if it is misinformation or if someone is pulling a string connecting Bitcoin to any mishaps done by other cryptocurrencies.  It always happens so I think we should get used to the fact that whenever negative stuff happens, Bitcoin will always take the toll of that event.

Hopefully one day soon bitcoin will decouple from the rest of the crap coin casino and the stock market. Hopefully all the crap coins will be banned or deemed securities which is what they are. All the crap that happens in the market has nothing to do with bitcoin. But people who invest in altcoins are stupid and just want to gamble and play the altcoin casino for short term gains but usually end up losing their shirt.

I also hope that day will happen and people will be informed that Bitcoin is different from central exchanges, scam altcoins, and other ill-intent cryptocurrencies.

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February 12, 2023, 02:10:21 AM
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Any cryptocurrency restriction won't actually benefit Bitcoin. It's because the ruling is against cryptocurrency and is not at all bullish.

Yes I do agree with you. In my opinion regulation like this only slow down the crypto space.

The Proof Of Work will stay at least for the US since there are a couple of Companies that are listed on NASDAQ and their main business is Cryptocurrency Mining. If they start to kill mining in the US there will be trouble.

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February 12, 2023, 02:23:34 AM
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I don't like all these "bans" but you are probably right. The problem with PoS is that coins can become too centralized. Take ETH for example, after the merge people started talking about lack of decentralization of ETH and how this coin can now be manipulated by anyone who will acquire a big percentage of coins. So the fact that they prefer PoW is probably a good thing for bitcoin.
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The ban is just the staking feature, it's not a ban for all of Proof Of Stake tokens, so anyone can still buy centralized POW shitcoin. Moreover the ban is just for US citizens, other people who want to stake their tokens are still possible on the exchange regulated by SEC. I don't think it will be bullish for Bitcoin because this problem doesn't have strong correlation to destroy POS token.

Anyway why SEC doesn't ban bank interest account? it work similar like staking feature by POS token.

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February 13, 2023, 02:30:40 AM
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Isn't the ban on staking in the USA supposed to be bullish for bitcoin and other proof of work crypto projects? I only heard not to stake on centralized exchanges but not the same for mining in the USA, so if you are in America you are free to fire on your Asic miners.  All Hail to PoW algorithm.
It won't prohibit altcoin developers to create new algorithms, new trends to attract altcoin investors.

People are more easily to be scammed by altcoin projects with lot of promises from their developers. Many times promises in Whitepaper, Roadmap are not fulfilled. It is not uncommon to see altcoin companies lie to their investors and run away with scam exits or bankruptcies.

They write too high ambitious roadmap but at the end, their developers get rich, investors get rekted.

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February 13, 2023, 09:34:50 AM
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the rumour:

its not to ban PoS coins in america
its not to ban PoS coins from solo staking on a PoS network in america
its not to ban PoS coins from being traded on regulated exchanges
its not to ban PoS coins from pool/syndicate/custodian staking in america on regulated exchanges

it is  that UNregulated exchanges/businesses in america cannot offer a staking service held by the UNregulated exchange/bunsiness,

and its became less than a rumour now with how kraken got hit with not registering to be allowed to offer staking for US customer
where as coinbase which is regulated can stake PoS

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Isn't the ban on staking in the USA supposed to be bullish for bitcoin and other proof of work crypto projects? I only heard not to stake on centralized exchanges but not the same for mining in the USA, so if you are in America you are free to fire on your Asic miners.  All Hail to PoW algorithm.
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Anyway why SEC doesn't ban bank interest account? it work similar like staking feature by POS token.

Probably because the interest earned from a bank account is so small that it doesn't pose much of a risk of the scheme collapsing and customers losing all their funds. In other words the rates are sustainable. Remember what happened when idiots staked their assets on Blockfi and Celsius? That's right they ended up losing all their money, because the scheme was not sustainable. Plus traditional bank accounts are insured by the US government and heavily regulated.

If ethereum wants to offer staking in the US then it should first register as a security and be subjected to the same level of regulatory scrutiny as banks and stocks.


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The ban is just the staking feature, it's not a ban for all of Proof Of Stake tokens, so anyone can still buy centralized POW shitcoin. Moreover the ban is just for US citizens, other people who want to stake their tokens are still possible on the exchange regulated by SEC. I don't think it will be bullish for Bitcoin because this problem doesn't have strong correlation to destroy POS token.

They would ever wanted to ban those that were not fully recognized with their regulatory system, but either it was ban or not bitcoin remains PoW while others are PoS, the process of mining the two were emphatically different a d PoS can not cause a drive to bullrun poW since what they want is to operate on an unregulated atmosphere being a centralized exchange, this is one of the reasons why PoW is the best becau it can not be regulated by any means since it's a decentralized network.

Anyway why SEC doesn't ban bank interest account? it work similar like staking feature by POS token.

They wouldn't because it's been under their regulatory body, they derive steady task, and they have control to make influence over the entire system.

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February 13, 2023, 03:13:28 PM
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Isn't the ban on staking in the USA supposed to be bullish for bitcoin and other proof of work crypto projects? I only heard not to stake on centralized exchanges but not the same for mining in the USA, so if you are in America you are free to fire on your Asic miners.  All Hail to PoW algorithm.

Isn't it the exchange staking that is banned and not the POS?  I do not think how can it be bullish for Bitcoin when POS is still at its the same status?  As discussed in the thread, it is the staking feature of the exchanges that is restricted and not the Proof of Stake concept of several cryptocurrency. 

Isn't the ban on staking in the USA supposed to be bullish for bitcoin and other proof of work crypto projects? I only heard not to stake on centralized exchanges but not the same for mining in the USA, so if you are in America you are free to fire on your Asic miners.  All Hail to PoW algorithm.
It won't prohibit altcoin developers to create new algorithms, new trends to attract altcoin investors.

True it also does not prohibit developers to adopt Proof of Stake feature in their coins or token so there is no real advantage of Bitcoin can be seen on the banning staking since it is limited to centralized exchanges that is based on USA.  So other cryptocurrency that isn't based on USA can still implement the staking feature.

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Isn't the ban on staking in the USA supposed to be bullish for bitcoin and other proof of work crypto projects? I only heard not to stake on centralized exchanges but not the same for mining in the USA, so if you are in America you are free to fire on your Asic miners.  All Hail to PoW algorithm.
This is bad news for cryptocurrency which affected whole crypto market including BTC. Banning staking in cex is against the decentralization and regulations and limitations will not give any benefit to Bitcoin. The benefit was nothing, the loss was that Bitcoin's price dropped from 24 to 20

This ban is limited to Centralized exchange and door of staking in dex is still open. second only US person are prohibited to stake token in unregulated Cex. all other POS utilities are open and there's no banned and regulations so Nothing seems to benefit Bitcoin.









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I've looked at the news, and it seems that it's about Kraken being forced to close their staking service in the US, but Reuters says it's because "it failed to register the program". So this doesn't mean that staking per se is illegal, but that you need a permit for it to be legal (there's also a mention of disclosure of how the staked assets are protected by the platform).
I don't think it's good news for Bitcoin, but I don't see it as bad either. It's probably an attempt to ensure that crypto exchanges are held more accountable, following the FTX crash.

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February 13, 2023, 05:00:02 PM
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This is bad news for cryptocurrency which affected whole crypto market including BTC. Banning staking in cex is against the decentralization and regulations and limitations will not give any benefit to Bitcoin.
How is it banning staking on CEXes against decentralization? It's against centralized exchanges.
The ban doesn't even target crypto, but crypto IOUs.

The benefit was nothing, the loss was that Bitcoin's price dropped from 24 to 20
Benefits become apparent as the markets becomes more efficient.
There is a lot of ignorance in the space, which creates market inefficiencies.

Once people realize what a scam shitcoins are, they will flock to Bitcoin.
BTC dropped from 23 to 21.5. That's the noise of the aforementioned ignorance. Zoom out and you'll see the signal. Check back in 2030.
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