What's AI Written Post?

[Husires]

The purpose of posts in the forum is to share knowledge, and therefore, no matter how little or advanced your knowledge is, your asking questions and trying to learn is beneficial to the forum in general. Either the use of artificial intelligence or any methods will not enhance the quality of discussions, and therefore it is closer to scam than being a useful thing.

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[Saisher]

Honestly I cannot even post as good as that reply generated by AI

I think that this should be the defining moment. If you look at AI-generated posts and then go back to user-generated posts, there is likely to be a difference in spelling. Especially when you consider that this bot will be used by users who are bad at English and in some questions on topics.
But while there is no clear rule, and AI lovers can post here, but I want to say that some of the phrases that the AI bot pulls out from different texts are long enough, after which one can easily accuse the one who uses AI of plagiarism.
Again, there are many newcomers here, and many do not know how the cleaning bot from plagiarism walked around the forum. At that time, many accounts were banned for copying one sentence.
Anyone who values their account should think about it. It is likely that this plagiarized machine may one day repeat its purge.

Any forum should protect itself from plagiarism, especially in a forum like Bitcointalk where one of its features is allowing freelancers to make money from using the signature feature of the forum, once it got penalized by Google it will stop showing results from keywords coming from Bitcointalk, we all going to suffer from this so it's better for managers and moderators to ban members who are caught using AI to participate in the discussion.
It should be the responsibility of the majority here to protect our forum.

[Cantsay]

Using AI will not help improve your writing and even knowledge, I imagine writing something with you having no knowledge about it, just the AI,

Actually, I think reverse is the case here. Those who use AI are going to make post that have decent quality but the knowledge of the poster is definitely not going to improve since they did little to no work in creating the post.

And Op I think it's going to be a little bit difficult to spot those who are currently using AI to make post in forum. Because I don't think we have a tool that can accurately detect a post made by an AI. But one way we can at least try to get such a user is to monitor their posting method and check if it's constantly changing or if it's consistent.

[sheenshane]

It seems a little bit off-topic but I just wanna share here this funny post that I've found on Chat-GPT's group and I don't know who is the source of this.  It seems someone playing on the ChatGPT bot.

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It's might obvious if someone used automated chatbot tools and post it here in the forum.
At the first glance, it would be didn't interact with the topic or doesn't give a healthy discussion.

It seems there's someone suspected now on meta using an AI bot and it end ups plagiarism which is the number cause of using this bot, if you care about your account, think it twice.

[summonerrk]

I have been wanting to know the answer to a question in the forum for some time, the question seems simple to everyone, but to me the question is very important.

How to post on bitcoin forum using artificial intelligence system?

And is anyone on this forum using the AI ​​writing system?

What are the pros and cons of using AI writing systems?  

AI writing post against forum policy?

A popular campaign manager on this forum @Royse777 has a cautionary rule about this in his managed signature campaign policy.  So are we to assume that AI writing posts is against forum policy?

To prevent AI domination effective from today we are introducing an incentive for forum users. Find AI written posts on this campaign
and report to me either in public or in forum PM, please be sure you have enough reference to support the claim. For successful report
the reporter will receive the weekly payment instead of the accused campaigner. The campaigner will be removed immediately.

Of course, there are technologies that allow you to create posts automatically. But this contradicts the rules of the forum, and of course the rules of common sense. According to this logic, you can fill the forum with bots and let them communicate here. A dubious case. Any answer of an adequate person has a meaning and some kind of semantic load. And those who want to automatically write posts by bots will be exposed and banned.

[Wakate]

AI written posts is a plagiarism and if caught, it cam lead to ban. I have not experienced anything like AI written post here but I am sure that in the nearest future there will be such a thing here. The world of digital technology is advancing everyday and people are looking for an easier way to execute things so there will be less efforts and better input.

Anyone that is caught by using AI to complete quarter posts here can end up getting ban. We are not here to encourage such as an that could make many of us lazy and unable to do research to write go posts.

[Findingnemo]

Direct answering to your question is plagiarism which is against forum rules and one who uses it to post on bitcointalk will be banned or at least the post will be removed for spam.

AI tool is nothing but a search engine for users who don't want to make any research but still need a solution, and many students are using it to cheat on their homework. So it's basically useful for cheaters and its not really going to give any new information so the intention of using it to post is just to complete the quota and claim a reward for something they didn't work for.

[Sandra_hakeem]

For the ChartGPT, it very easy to detect an opinion made by an AI; though it's not quite simple to get them busted from merely reading their scribbles. It's widely done with another detection bot; the reasons why an AI, which is widely accepted as an aid in writing, be having such a counter effect marvels me at some point 
Loyce made a statement about how she's realized AI scribbles in here as of late; and we've been keeping our fingers crossed to avoid them overwhelming the forum totally...
Though, the MODs see nothing wrong with it, I see everything... Not just me, alot more peeps do the same too.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[coupable]

Regardless of whether the use of artificial intelligence to post in forums in general is permissible or not, but it will not necessarily be the best option because it does not make sense to use forums at all. Whoever set the rules of the forum did not expect that technology would be developed that would facilitate fraud operations for those who steal the ideas of others and attribute them to themselves.
What Royce did can, in principle, be considered a personal decision to ensure the integrity of the campaign. I hope that the forum administration will interact positively with it and clarify its position.
The situation of artificial intelligence with the forums poses a major dilemma for discussion regarding the prospects for human creativity.

[batang_bitcoin]

It's caught into attention when chatpgt and any other AI software really are doing things for writing easily. Those that have thought that they can do their jobs easily will use it for their own productivity. But, it's not all about what they can be productive with but we're for the genuineness of what people can contribute with it. It depends on how they use it, if it's for educational purpose or it's just plain and simple to shortcut their tasks. To sum all of it, not everything that AI says will be actually what we want for its answer and logically the one that we need. Sometimes just like us humans, there's some redundancy and inaccuracy. As I've said, the authencity of the discussion from person to person can easily be found if it's still a human has replied or an AI.

[Cryptomultiplier]

For the ChartGPT, it very easy to detect an opinion made by an AI; though it's not quite simple to get them busted from merely reading their scribbles. It's widely done with another detection bot; the reasons why an AI, which is widely accepted as an aid in writing, be having such a counter effect marvels me at some point 
Loyce made a statement about how she's realized AI scribbles in here as of late; and we've been keeping our fingers crossed to avoid them overwhelming the forum totally...
Though, the MODs see nothing wrong with it, I see everything... Not just me, alot more peeps do the same too.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

I do think why you see everything wrong with using Ai generated text is because you better yourself in creating comments or post replies from your head.
It's more of a shortcut for the lazy writers to use, and the lazy ones who seek the short route always get turned around somehow, as in, they would get discovered eventually when there's no proper believable evidence of human editing or improvised text with their own human words.

[Ruttoshi]

Using AI ro generate post is against the forum because it shows that you don't have the idea of the discussion that you are engaging yourself, and you want to clain that you know. This will make your contribution not meaningful because it is humans that are thinking and sharing knowledge from their past experience and not a bot that is programmed to answer base on the information that she feels is right.

When you are using AI to generate a post and you are in a signature campaign, it shows that you are a cheat because you are been paid for what you claim to know or have which you don't. There are tools that are used to detect AI generated post but I don't think that I know any. So therefore, if AI generated post is not frowned at, the forum will be full of spammers and this will bring down the value of the forum by discouraging forum members from learning.

[nakamura12]

Using AI ro generate post is against the forum because it shows that you don't have the idea of the discussion that you are engaging yourself, and you want to clain that you know. This will make your contribution not meaningful because it is humans that are thinking and sharing knowledge from their past experience and not a bot that is programmed to answer base on the information that she feels is right.

When you are using AI to generate a post and you are in a signature campaign, it shows that you are a cheat because you are been paid for what you claim to know or have which you don't. There are tools that are used to detect AI generated post but I don't think that I know any. So therefore, if AI generated post is not frowned at, the forum will be full of spammers and this will bring down the value of the forum by discouraging forum members from learning.

It is not just because you don't have the idea to engage in the post but also because the content or post that is generated by the AI is not yours so that means you are posting an idea, post or content in this forum that isn't yours which means you are plagiarized another work. You may say that it isn't a person who made that post but it is still not yours as you are not the one who made it or not your own idea to start with.

[jokers10]

When you are using AI to generate a post and you are in a signature campaign, it shows that you are a cheat because you are been paid for what you claim to know or have which you don't.

As revealed, the problem is not only in that those who use AI are cheating. AI posts are trashing forum with garbage level posts: these posts are full of mistakes, which are not always easily detected. So if someone will follow some info written by AI he can be mislead with fairly high-quality style and huge mistakes in a content part.

Hidden use of AI for posting is plagiarizing, cheating and littering with incorrect information at once.

[nutildah]

As has been pointed out a few times already, the real reason it shouldn't be done is because the post author is taking credit for something they didn't write, wanting everyone else to believe they actually did write it, which is dishonest. This is one of the most direct statements on AI policy that we've had from forum staff thus far:

It should be treated the same as plagiarism. Asking an AI something then copy and pasting the response is just as bad if not worse than plagiarism because it's not as easy to detect, though the posts do kind of stand out.
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I think theymos should probably make an announcement about prohibiting this sort of use of AI or at the very least we add it to the "unofficial" forum rules but users should be alerted not to use it in such a way. If a user if just going to use it to copy and paste the title of a thread or the OP into an AI then copy and paste the results that should be treated the same as plagiarism. If it isn't then this place isn't going to be a discussion forum for much longer but just a get paid to copy and post AI responses forum.

If you insist on posting text written by ChatGPT, it should be done as an attributed quote, like such:

Here's what ChatGPT had to say about this issue:

To avoid issues related to plagiarism, it's essential to provide appropriate attribution when using information obtained from ChatGPT, especially in contexts where academic, professional, or ethical standards apply. This involves acknowledging that the content is generated by a language model and providing references to the model and its training data when necessary.

[DYING_S0UL]

When you are using AI to generate a post and you are in a signature campaign, it shows that you are a cheat because you are been paid for what you claim to know or have which you don't.

As revealed, the problem is not only in that those who use AI are cheating. AI posts are trashing forum with garbage level posts: these posts are full of mistakes, which are not always easily detected. So if someone will follow some info written by AI he can be mislead with fairly high-quality style and huge mistakes in a content part.

Hidden use of AI for posting is plagiarizing, cheating and littering with incorrect information at once.

Exacly! If I made a post with AI, despite having information, I would consider that a valueless post. Because everything I wrote is not mine, I have no knowledge of it. If I were to give an example, suppose I made a wonderful post about bitcoin mining using AI. Now, is it helpful? Yes, somehow, but not entirely. If someone asks me which miner to buy, how to fix this error, or how to set up miners, will I be able to answer those questions? No, I won't be able to, because I have no knowledge of it. AI may give us content to post, but it lacks real-life experience and knowledge. How to fix a problem or how to go from A to B.

High quality or low quality. If it's made entirely using AI, then that's  clear cheating.

[SamReomo]

How to post on bitcoin forum using artificial intelligence system?

People can use AI text generators like ChatGPT or Google bard to write the posts for them and then they copy/paste those posts on this forum. Actually using of AI is not mainstream due to such platforms and even children can use those platforms without much hassle. But, of course the generated text is not accurate and may misguide others about certain things if they read such posts.

And is anyone on this forum using the AI ​​writing system?

That's a controversial question but surely there is a thread created by @Nutildah where you can see the members who used AI generated posts and they were reported in that particular thread. Here's the link of that thread AI Spam Report Reference Thread

What are the pros and cons of using AI writing systems?

The pros of AI writing systems is that they have learnt their knowledge from huge set of text data and they can write like humans, and another pros of those AI writing systems is that they write with excellent grammar.
The cons of such AI writing systems are a lot. Those systems are somehow helping spammers to get written posts within seconds. The texts they generate are probably unique but they're more like spam.

AI writing post against forum policy?

There are no official rules against AI generated texts as far as I know and there is no such forum policy against such posts but surely the members of the forum don't like to read posts which are generated with AI writing systems and that's why they oppose such posts and report those posts to moderators. It's somehow a type of plagiarism and that's why most members of the forum don't really like to have AI generated threads or posts in this forum. I believe that in future we may have official rules against AI generated texts.

A popular campaign manager on this forum @Royse777 has a cautionary rule about this in his managed signature campaign policy.  So are we to assume that AI writing posts is against forum policy?

To prevent AI domination effective from today we are introducing an incentive for forum users. Find AI written posts on this campaign
and report to me either in public or in forum PM, please be sure you have enough reference to support the claim. For successful report
the reporter will receive the weekly payment instead of the accused campaigner. The campaigner will be removed immediately.

Royse is surely one of the best managers of our forum and I truly respect him and his opinion. He wants to have human written content on the forum and especially he wants human written content from the applicants who participate in the campaigns which he manages. And, for that he prohibits AI written text and if someone uses AI tools to generate texts when he/she is accepted in a campaign that is managed by Royse then that person won't get the payment as Royse's rules and the one who reports such user will receive the pay.

A few weeks ago there was a forum member who was accepted in Royse's managed signature campaign but that guy used AI generated texts in order to fulfil his weekly minimum posts. Someone found that and reported that members and Royse took action against that member by removing him from his signature campaign and gave him penalty of not getting accepted in any of his managed campaigns for a year I think.

[FinneysTrueVision]

If campaign managers started allowing AI generated posts then the forum would be 100% spam. There would be no reason for organic conversation when people could just earn money from copy and pasting from ChatGPT. It would not benefit any of the advertisers if most posts were just low effort and full of mistakes.

As far as I know the forum itself doesn't have a rule on using AI but these types of posts tend to get flagged and removed often. AI spam could have a negative effect on search engine visibility if it gets too out of control.

[jokers10]

I completely agree that the primary purpose of this forum is to share knowledge and help each other learn. We're all at different levels, and asking questions is how we expand our understanding. AI can certainly be a helpful tool, but it's not a replacement for genuine discussion and learning from one another.

Even if this exact post is too short for HiveModeration to be sure it's AI written, don't try to fool others with posting something AI written in the topic with discussion about AI posts. If you think that others don't see it, you are wrong.

Let's see what detectors will say:

copyleaks AI Content Detected
hivemoderation 42.2% likely to contain AI Generated Text
sapling.ai Fake: 99.7%

One day it will lead you to a ban or getting a tag. Your other post is 100% detected by all detectors as AI generated...

[lovesmayfamilis]

One day it will lead you to a ban or getting a tag. Your other post is 100% detected by all detectors as AI generated...

I haven't seen the whole story, but it looks like you're right. The account is already blocked.
Another strange thing is that sometimes on the topic of the use of AI, we provide accurate data that accounts use AI,, but their posts are never deleted. However, if you look at your merit received today, the administrator is also against the AI. That is, we can conclude that it is forbidden to create posts using a robot, but as always, what happens with plagiarism, moderators make different decisions.