Would you have engaged in the war if you were the Ukrainian President?

[Odo1972]

After reading through some articles online I realized that despite the negative effects of war, there are still positive outcomes that can be achieved through war.
This brought my attention to the Russian Ukraine war that lasted about 1 year now.

Some positive effects that result from war include "the correction of injustices, the defeat of a problematic government, advancement in technology and medicine, and a reduction of unemployment".

1. My question now is, has Ukraine achieved any of these positive outcomes in the course of the war?

2. As President, would you engage in a war to achieve any of these positive outcomes?

[BenCodie]

If my research is correct (and I think this is an unpopular opinion/conclusion) the main reason that Russia began the war was due to Ukraine's talks to join NATO. Ukraine pursued, Russia followed on its word. Would I start war in this case? No. Putting myself in the presidents' shoes, I am already allied with the great sleeping lion that is China, I am already one of the most powerful countries alongside the US and China, why not instead increase defenses instead of starting war in case Ukraine joining NATO is malicious?

In saying that, everyone thinks they can decide better than the current leaders (even me sometimes)...we don't know all of the factors behind their decisions though. It is unfortunate that the world is in a state where these leaders conclude that war is the only way to go.

[Odo1972]

A wall is a specially net for the soldiers not for the individuals or students or civilians so if I should we found myself into such country I don't think that I will participate in such a wall so it depends the kind of war that is happening in Ukraine but I know that there is no level or situation we found ourselves in Ukraine that to make everybody to participate in such a war between Russia and the Ukraine their most to be a selected people which is soldiers police never officers and any other parliamentary

I understand your point but it seems you didn't understand my own point. I know the men on uniform such as the military fight the war. But somebody has to declare the and the person is President.
So I'm asking if you would declare war if you were the Ukrainian President?

[Newlifebtc]

A wall is a specially net for the soldiers not for the individuals or students or civilians so if I should we found myself into such country I don't think that I will participate in such a wall so it depends the kind of war that is happening in Ukraine but I know that there is no level or situation we found ourselves in Ukraine that to make everybody to participate in such a war between Russia and the Ukraine their most to be a selected people which is soldiers police never officers and any other parliamentary

I understand your point but it seems you didn't understand my own point. I know the men on uniform such as the military fight the war. But somebody has to declare the and the person is President.
So I'm asking if you would declare war if you were the Ukrainian President?

The person that you quoted above misunderstood everything you said so answering directly to your question if I am the one I don't think that I will directly declare war in a Ukraine or any other company so if I happen to be a president in such country I will do my homework through my own understanding not by making something that will affect my own people in my country I will look for the benefit of the country and the protection of the citizens

[o48o]

It would be literally my job to protect my country. So of course. Why an earth they would surrender?

What's the alternative? Let the enemy walk all over you and rape and kill your women and chidren and rob you blind? And after they walked over you they would just keep on going all over europe.

[Die_empty]

After reading through some articles online I realized that despite the negative effects of war, there are still positive outcomes that can be achieved through war.
This brought my attention to the Russian Ukraine war that lasted about 1 year now.

Some positive effects that result from war include "the correction of injustices, the defeat of a problematic government, advancement in technology and medicine, and a reduction of unemployment".

1. My question now is, has Ukraine achieved any of these positive outcomes in the course of the war?

2. As President, would you engage in a war to achieve any of these positive outcomes?

We have to agree that fighting wars have no benefit because any event that leads to the loss of lives and property is not acceptable. The death of young children and others supersedes all the benefits or gains of this senseless war.

This war has thought both parties a big lesson. Russia thought this war will last for less than two weeks but they have learned their lessons. Russia is now well aware that Ukraine is not militarily weak. They are now aware that with little support from Ukraine's allies, they can withstand the military might of Russia.

NATO and Europe are also aware that Russia is a military and economic powerhouse. Even with NATO's support, Russia has proved to be militarily strong and taking more territories in Ukraine. European nations and the US also believed that sanctions will cripple Russia's economy but they have discovered that the Russian economy is to a large extent sanction-proof.

Ukraine has gained transfer of scientific and military technology from the US and NATO because the Ukrainian military has been gaining technical and operational knowledge through training. The emergencysector like the fire service and the medical sector has been exposed to different situations. And they have also gained some skills from some international organizations like Red Cross. Some doctors and medical personnel have also received advanced training from other countries.

If I were the president I would never engage in this war to gain these advantages. The lives of my citizens are worth more than these benefits. And these benefits or gains can be achieved without fighting. I don't also see how the war has reduced unemployment, it even increased it.

[Marykeller]

In a conflict, there is no gain. Any nation that fights in war has a great deal to lose.

The lives of each and every one of my citizens would count if I were the president of Ukraine, thus I would try my hardest to avoid starting a war with Russia. If there should be a victory in a battle, I tend not to look at it cos I stand at the verge of losing life and human resources

For Ukrainians to fully heal from the pain and suffering the war against Russia has brought, it will take many years.

[OgNasty]

I guess it would depend on what sort of agreements I had with the Biden administration. It seems the relationship is definitely inappropriate and the US is very clearly providing massive support. Without knowing the twisted set of agreements that pulled the United States into this war in the first place, it’s hard to say what I would or would not have done.

[Wakate]

Looking at the current Russia Ukraine, we will know that it had affected the whole economy of the two countries and this is not funny at all. I don't see any advantage from the war to the two countries. This war had create severe unemployment, scatter the school system and is lead a lots of people to people if this war continues with the goal of ending the war.

Russia is a big country that had the resources to fight against Ukraine with full force but the help of other NATO countries had repelled the ambition of the Russian federation to take over Ukraine. This war had to stop or else people will keep dying.

[Odo1972]

Majority of the replies here is an indication that war is bad and not an option. In a war, both the Victor and the Vanquish have something to lose, especially the lives of the innocent civilians.
This war has lingered, I hope the two countries would find reasons to end it already to save the continuous loss of lives and properties.

[BADecker]

Would you have engaged in the war if you were the Ukrainian President?


Of course, if I were Zelensky. Because then I would love money way more than my country-people. And the US pays $good$. Besides, when I win, they will give me a share of land in the former Russian nation. Maybe they will even let me have it as my own country.

[paxmao]

After reading through some articles online I realized that despite the negative effects of war, there are still positive outcomes that can be achieved through war.
This brought my attention to the Russian Ukraine war that lasted about 1 year now.

Some positive effects that result from war include "the correction of injustices, the defeat of a problematic government, advancement in technology and medicine, and a reduction of unemployment".

1. My question now is, has Ukraine achieved any of these positive outcomes in the course of the war?

2. As President, would you engage in a war to achieve any of these positive outcomes?

"Engaging in war" - you mean defend your country?

You talk like if there was a choice - or better said - a reasonable choice. This is the old dilemma of fight or fly. Flying would mean that the country would have been in disarray or someone would have taken the reins and lead the war or that Putin would have seated another despot and millions would suffer for it. Fighting (self-defence, no "engaging in war") means that you accept there will be loses and suffering during a not known period of time and the outcome could anyway be bad.

Zelensky and the other members of government chose to defend the country, as at least if offers some hope for the future.

I guess it would depend on what sort of agreements I had with the Biden administration. It seems the relationship is definitely inappropriate and the US is very clearly providing massive support. Without knowing the twisted set of agreements that pulled the United States into this war in the first place, it’s hard to say what I would or would not have done.

Sure, twisted arrangement such as not wanting to have the RF army at Brandenburg. Curious how you have started posting about this so close to the presidential elections...

[suchmoon]

Again with Putin's narrative LOL

As if the "Ukrainian President" had a choice to not engage or to not have the war. His country was attacked. No amount of bullshit threads with loaded questions can change that fact.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Engaging in a war that would put the lives of my citizens, my loved ones and myself in danger, as a president I can't think of going to war or start something like that instead I'll seek for advice or probably protection, first to stop the chaos that's about to begin before doing the needful. Sometimes people just look for a way to pass an ugly message that they're superior over the other by activating war, and when they are declared winner they start bragging as if that's the right thing to do.
As a president all you do is make sure your subject are happy and in a good condition, protection too. It doesn't have to be this way, in the case of Russia and Ukraine they just need to find a way to settle the whole issue between them for the sake of their citizens.

[Minecache]

Engaging in a war that would put the lives of my citizens, my loved ones and myself in danger, as a president I can't think of going to war or start something like that instead I'll seek for advice or probably protection, first to stop the chaos that's about to begin before doing the needful. Sometimes people just look for a way to pass an ugly message that they're superior over the other by activating war, and when they are declared winner they start bragging as if that's the right thing to do.
As a president all you do is make sure your subject are happy and in a good condition, protection too. It doesn't have to be this way, in the case of Russia and Ukraine they just need to find a way to settle the whole issue between them for the sake of their citizens.

Although I am not on the side of Ukraine in this war because I know the person who caused all this is probably the US, but if it were the president of Ukraine, I would fight to the end with Russia. Because once the country is invaded, we cannot sit idly by and let the enemy come to kill us, even if we surrender, they will not leave us in peace. The other side will think that we are afraid of them, so they look down on us even more. My country was invaded by America, and they still kill our relatives even when we are civilians.

This war will not end anytime soon because self-determination is not in the hands of President Zelensky. Ukraine is like a pawn on the political chessboard of the great powers.

[Lordhermes]

President Zelensky made a big mistake by engaging in war with Putin, knowning too well that he can't stand Putin, I think this dispute can only be resolved through peace talk. I'm appealing to Putin and Zelensky to end the dispute for humanity sake.

[o48o]

President Zelensky made a big mistake by engaging in war with Putin, knowning too well that he can't stand Putin, I think this dispute can only be resolved through peace talk. I'm appealing to Putin and Zelensky to end the dispute for humanity sake.

Would you also tell to rape victims that it's a big mistake to defend themselves because the rapist is stronger? That we should also listen how difficult it is for the rapist because someone put up a fight and made them hurt the victim because they didn't let him just to do what he wanted.

Because it sure sounds like you would.

[af_newbie]

President Zelensky made a big mistake by engaging in war with Putin, knowning too well that he can't stand Putin, I think this dispute can only be resolved through peace talk. I'm appealing to Putin and Zelensky to end the dispute for humanity sake.

The Russian side has presented unacceptable terms.

Peace talks can only be held after the Russian army withdraws from Ukraine or is destroyed in Ukraine.

This war will not end until Putin's army is pushed back out of Ukraine.

The peace talks will be held long after Putin is killed or commits suicide.

PS. If I were Putin, I would gradually withdraw my army and prepare the public for a "victory". Everyone in Russia will be more than happy
to have him end this war. He might even sell it that he is a national hero, long-term strategist, genius chess player, etc. Whatever.

[OgNasty]

After reading through some articles online I realized that despite the negative effects of war, there are still positive outcomes that can be achieved through war.
This brought my attention to the Russian Ukraine war that lasted about 1 year now.

Some positive effects that result from war include "the correction of injustices, the defeat of a problematic government, advancement in technology and medicine, and a reduction of unemployment".

1. My question now is, has Ukraine achieved any of these positive outcomes in the course of the war?

2. As President, would you engage in a war to achieve any of these positive outcomes?

Perhaps I'm a bit cynical, but I think the positives of the war from the Ukrainian perspective include receiving trillions in dollars of aid from the United States, advanced weaponry, their enemies weakened, and better deals moving forward to help their country prosper.  They of course now become the center of the proxy war between NATO and Russia, but I assume their leaders are being compensated under the table with riches that the average man can only dream of.

It would be hard to say what I would do if I were the President of Ukraine.  With the information I have, of course I wouldn't have gone to war.  I don't have any information about how much their leader is getting promised and how much money is flowing under the table to him, so it's tough to answer the question realistically.

[BADecker]

President Zelensky made a big mistake by engaging in war with Putin, knowning too well that he can't stand Putin, I think this dispute can only be resolved through peace talk. I'm appealing to Putin and Zelensky to end the dispute for humanity sake.

The Russian side has presented unacceptable terms.

Peace talks can only be held after the Russian army withdraws from Ukraine or is destroyed in Ukraine.

This war will not end until Putin's army is pushed back out of Ukraine.

The peace talks will be held long after Putin is killed or commits suicide.

PS. If I were Putin, I would gradually withdraw my army and prepare the public for a "victory". Everyone in Russia will be more than happy
to have him end this war. He might even sell it that he is a national hero, long-term strategist, genius chess player, etc. Whatever.

If Putin and Russia withdrew, gave the land back to Ukraine, and ended the war,
In a few short years (but maybe only months) Ukraine and Nato would be attacking Russia to break her up for US enterprises to take over.

Now, that might not be a bad idea, but it would be a foolish idea for Russia. Until Zelensky withdraws his military, Russia needs to fight to remain a viable, prosperous country.

If Zelensky turned his military off, and if the US withdrew from Ukraine, Russia would back off, as well... though not right away. The treaty of Minsk was supposed to do this kind of thing by not letting the war happen in the first place. But the US and Ukraine broke the treaty. Merkel even said that the treaty was meant only to hold Russia back so that Ukraine could build up its war armament for this war, which they would have mounted against Russia for nothing except conquest.