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February 27, 2023, 08:52:30 PM
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I agree, we cannot blame the organizers only because teams and players in both teams should know this thing. It is so frustrating that there are still people who are doing this for the sake of money or fame the committee should not tolerate this kind of thing and they should hardly implement the law. We need to exercise integrity and transparency in sports so that it would be fair for all people for players, fans and those who are betting with their fav team.
There are even worst that happens with these games. Not just from these players but they've been urged to do something else that would make them go against their own wills.

There's such more on these spaces and sports that we don't know and even deeper when it's not the top tier teams that we get to know. I agree that their participation should also be blamed because if it's not for them, no fraud will be made since they're the ones playing and on the ground.

They should choose what's best for them and I guess they think at these times, money and being bought is what's best for them at the moment.

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February 28, 2023, 12:58:01 AM
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I get the feeling that the players were simply the fall guys in this operation, even though they were the ones most at fault, it's unlikely that they made the most profit from it all. There were probably bigger people in the fraud who managed to get away with a lot higher amounts, I just wonder how big the betting pool is for this sort of second league betting. Can you place bets on these teams at most major book makers, or because it is prone to abuse is it only offered at a few select bookmakers? Whenever people are caught in these situations it might be best if they are put in jail for a fair chunk of time or at least fined way more than they could possibly have gained as a lot of people probably lost money because of them.
And you are most likely correct about your guess, the ones closer to the fraud are the ones which have to face the consequences, while the masterminds behind them usually get away with their crimes.

And while it is possible they could be abusing bookmakers with the manipulation of those results, I think this is most likely an illegal gambling ring which accepts sport bets without having the license to do it, and they manipulate the results to beat their clients.

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February 28, 2023, 03:26:19 AM
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I get the feeling that the players were simply the fall guys in this operation, even though they were the ones most at fault, it's unlikely that they made the most profit from it all. There were probably bigger people in the fraud who managed to get away with a lot higher amounts, I just wonder how big the betting pool is for this sort of second league betting. Can you place bets on these teams at most major book makers, or because it is prone to abuse is it only offered at a few select bookmakers? Whenever people are caught in these situations it might be best if they are put in jail for a fair chunk of time or at least fined way more than they could possibly have gained as a lot of people probably lost money because of them.
And you are most likely correct about your guess, the ones closer to the fraud are the ones which have to face the consequences, while the masterminds behind them usually get away with their crimes.

I'm sure this is the case. Ordinary players cannot set the terms. They cannot dictate on what will happen. I even think that many of the players are obliged to make the agreement happen even if they disagree with it or they're only given a small amount while risking their whole career. They are in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Of course they cannot just reject the order of the bosses as they are under his payroll. But they cannot also easily accept it because they know it's illegal and are risking their livelihood and reputation.
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February 28, 2023, 05:53:20 AM
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I get the feeling that the players were simply the fall guys in this operation, even though they were the ones most at fault, it's unlikely that they made the most profit from it all. There were probably bigger people in the fraud who managed to get away with a lot higher amounts, I just wonder how big the betting pool is for this sort of second league betting. Can you place bets on these teams at most major book makers, or because it is prone to abuse is it only offered at a few select bookmakers? Whenever people are caught in these situations it might be best if they are put in jail for a fair chunk of time or at least fined way more than they could possibly have gained as a lot of people probably lost money because of them.
And you are most likely correct about your guess, the ones closer to the fraud are the ones which have to face the consequences, while the masterminds behind them usually get away with their crimes.

I'm sure this is the case. Ordinary players cannot set the terms. They cannot dictate on what will happen. I even think that many of the players are obliged to make the agreement happen even if they disagree with it or they're only given a small amount while risking their whole career. They are in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Of course they cannot just reject the order of the bosses as they are under his payroll. But they cannot also easily accept it because they know it's illegal and are risking their livelihood and reputation.
The people who work behind the bouts arrange everything so that players, judges and others can do whatever they want.
Maybe these people have received bribes not to tell anyone or to keep this secret even though those involved can get prison sentences if government officials find out.
But those involved people are nowhere to be found because the organization behind it is so good at covering its tracks.
Money can indeed make someone change drastically, especially if it is big money and without tiring work.

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February 28, 2023, 06:11:05 AM
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If it's possible for this kind of competition for fraud to occur, how much more to much smaller competitions. There are local and regional competitions everywhere. Some games must be rigged. Some detected, some not.

Here, there was also a national basketball competition where a team was obviously throwing the game. It was Manny Pacquiao himself who filed the case against those who were involved in the fixing.

I also have a neighbor who was a pro DOTA II player. He and his team were involved in match fixing. They were banned by Valve itself.

Fraud is also rampant in sports.
it is the order of the day, rampant in almost everything we get ourselves involved in as far as the internet and money is concerned though.
Banning your neighbor is a good punishment don't you think so??

Match fixing shouldn't be encouraged.

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February 28, 2023, 06:15:55 AM
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How common do you think this kind of fraud is on European countries, for example?
I would personally never think that this could be possible in Germany or the United Kingdom, however, I am not from there.

Sometimes we underestimate the reach of these problems around the world and the power of criminal organizations.  So people believe they are safe betting in the Bundeslisga, but perhaps they are not.  Huh
I was lucky to find an exact answer to your question. It is said that there are so many match-fixers in Europe and that's because there are so many lower leagues there but maybe it can also happen to other countries who have a huge number of lower leagues.

We never underestimate these kinds of problem because we know how serious it is as it can damage the reputation of the sport, club, league, and country. This is also annoying if you are too confident about the bets that you placed in a sports betting site but then you lose it because of a fixed match but even without these types of frauds, losing can still be inevitable sometimes because we are simply unlucky.
Match fixing is a common phenomenon in every part of the world. But I can definitely say that this type of match fixing is most common in minor leagues. So now if I hear any news about match fixing then I don't give much importance. Because now some games basically run for fixing. When sports are a means of business, many think of it as such way. But if there is no hope to get rid of this kind of scandal then people will not have much interest in the game. But for gamblers it will not have much effect.
Honestly I always felt like lower leagues experience huge sports betting fixes. Like I mean who would care when someone fix matches in 2nd-3rd league of Türkiye or Greece. Probably nearly noone. Saddening part is that many football (or sports) lovers start to dislike watching it. It kills many other legit revenues. It kills soul of sports. I wish there could be some sort of defence mechanism but its humanly thing so its pretty much impossible to avoid.
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February 28, 2023, 06:51:47 AM
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Honestly I always felt like lower leagues experience huge sports betting fixes. Like I mean who would care when someone fix matches in 2nd-3rd league of Türkiye or Greece. Probably nearly noone. Saddening part is that many football (or sports) lovers start to dislike watching it. It kills many other legit revenues. It kills soul of sports. I wish there could be some sort of defence mechanism but its humanly thing so its pretty much impossible to avoid.
There are often allegations of match-fixing within the sport, especially in the minor leagues. I didn't pay heed to such news but learned to understand when i fell victim to it. The picture of a fixing match is very easy to imagine. There is no discussion about them or it is not possible to discuss them because there is no evidence. It is not only in the Football tournament. This kind of thing can happen in almost all sports. I placed a bet on a minor cricket league a few days back. Where i had more than 99 percent possibility to wins but i have lost. I needed fewer runs than i had enough wickets but i had to lose. I participated in minor cricket league. But now i try to avoid all these minor leagues.

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February 28, 2023, 07:17:44 AM
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This kind of thing can happen in almost all sports. I placed a bet on a minor cricket league a few days back. Where i had more than 99 percent possibility to wins but i have lost. I needed fewer runs than i had enough wickets but i had to lose. I participated in minor cricket league. But now i try to avoid all these minor leagues.
Yes, you are right, there is no sport that is immune from the practice of fix matches and that often happens in small tournaments that are not given much news, fix matches also occur in tennis but dirty practices like that still happen Two French tennis players banned for life for match fixing offences
but once there was a big league that also did this practice, it was a detrimental thing A decade after Italy's match-fixing scandal, Serie A is worse than it was before
It must be a very annoying thing if we choose a bet that turns out to be involved in a fixed match

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February 28, 2023, 02:35:28 PM
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This kind of thing can happen in almost all sports. I placed a bet on a minor cricket league a few days back. Where i had more than 99 percent possibility to wins but i have lost. I needed fewer runs than i had enough wickets but i had to lose. I participated in minor cricket league. But now i try to avoid all these minor leagues.
Yes, you are right, there is no sport that is immune from the practice of fix matches and that often happens in small tournaments that are not given much news, fix matches also occur in tennis but dirty practices like that still happen Two French tennis players banned for life for match fixing offences
but once there was a big league that also did this practice, it was a detrimental thing A decade after Italy's match-fixing scandal, Serie A is worse than it was before
It must be a very annoying thing if we choose a bet that turns out to be involved in a fixed match

Fix matches are really popular and widely done in small or even big games. Although it's much known and really rampant with small games because there's little to no background checking done. Additionally, some who know it won't even bother to talk to escalate the cheating to the authorities so it's not fully eliminated even though there are some organizers for the betting or game itself.

It's hard to wipe out fixed matches because there are still people who condone and patronize such act because it offers easy money for them. It will now just depend on what principles and beliefs you uphold. If you will let your moral compass guide you or let your greediness take over.
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February 28, 2023, 06:18:49 PM
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That is pretty unfortunate that such fraudulent activities occur in sports, and it is not limited to Brazil alone. These incidents attract attention due to a large amount of money involved. Though these things undermine the integrity of the game, those taking bribes or doing fraud don't really care.

Sports betting can be a legitimate way to earn money, but it should be done ethically and responsibly. It is disheartening to hear about fraudulent activities such as those in such a high-level competition. It doesn't set a good example for the world or the lovers of the game from around the globe that pay money to go watch those players in the stadiums only to come to know that they took money to sell the integrity of the game.

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February 28, 2023, 09:24:36 PM
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Honestly I always felt like lower leagues experience huge sports betting fixes. Like I mean who would care when someone fix matches in 2nd-3rd league of Türkiye or Greece. Probably nearly noone. Saddening part is that many football (or sports) lovers start to dislike watching it. It kills many other legit revenues. It kills soul of sports. I wish there could be some sort of defence mechanism but its humanly thing so its pretty much impossible to avoid.
There are often allegations of match-fixing within the sport, especially in the minor leagues. I didn't pay heed to such news but learned to understand when i fell victim to it. The picture of a fixing match is very easy to imagine. There is no discussion about them or it is not possible to discuss them because there is no evidence. It is not only in the Football tournament. This kind of thing can happen in almost all sports. I placed a bet on a minor cricket league a few days back. Where i had more than 99 percent possibility to wins but i have lost. I needed fewer runs than i had enough wickets but i had to lose. I participated in minor cricket league. But now i try to avoid all these minor leagues.
Not something new and its been known through ages if we do speak about these kind of rigging games and other things which is correlated to it.It is true that this do usually happens on smaller leagues which
there were no people that much watching for it to be not really that much obvious or been known to be a fixed ones.It is really that sure that someone is really making out arrangement about
these games and making money on having a fixed match.It is really hard to determine which one though because from those players until to those who had set out those who are on top
are really that careful on making it obvious.Its not something new anymore.

R


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