Eu Cina vs USA russia oil vs Green energy

[Fullbear2222]

The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.
If russia wins then world Green energy not gona develope so easy.
But EU ally is china they both are good with Green energy.

If china and EU Will take over the world then rubles and dollars Will be Like simbawe dollars nobody really don't need it and oil countries economy Will fall down a lot.

And If war ends then russia and USA economy dont do so good neither the arab mirates like UEA.

But world moving towards Green energy so the safest bet might be crypto and EU china assets and stock market.

The USA and russia destiny is umkown and world moving towards Green energy.

China is Also more Green energy like.

[jackg]

China do have lots of oil too though, seems like your version of events is just a China win regardless.

Russia would already have been using its power to prevent green energy, it's greatest influence was probably the fact it was peaceful and countries thought they'd be a reliable (/ethical) source of oil which they've now disproven.

[YOSHIE]

If china and EU Will take over the world then rubles and dollars Will be Like simbawe dollars nobody really don't need it and oil countries economy Will fall down a lot.

Green energy, not as easy as you say and imagine, is used all over the world, even though some countries have abundant natural resources, apart from Green Energy requiring a large economy, other factors must also be considered.
Example:
Overall Green Energy has technical weaknesses for Green Energy and also other factors, such as required storage such as batteries so that they are not wasted, weather factors, because Green Energy is taken from various natural resources, plants, water and so on, not to mention the capacity of Green Energy users such as companies that require large amounts of electricity, I'm sure Green Energy can't handle all that.

China & EU can't shake the world, if you talk about Energy, oil and economy, the world has what China & EU don't have, they can't rule the world.

[Argoo]

Previously, no one paid much attention to alternative energy sources. Moreover, oil and gas corporations did everything possible to prevent such alternative ways of generating energy from appearing. For this, inventions were bought and subsequently destroyed, or simply inventors were killed more often under the guise of accidents. But now the situation has changed largely due to the fact that the world's oil and gas reserves are being depleted at a very rapid pace and the transition to other types of energy, such as solar, wind, geothermal and others, has simply become overripe in its decision. Moreover, now, for example, the production of solar panels is constantly getting cheaper due to the emergence of better technologies and their efficiency is steadily growing. So in any case, the world will switch to green energy, regardless of the aspirations of individual states. This is also required by the rapid climate change on our planet.

[DrBeer]

1. The dominance of Russia - this point, in the current situation, you can cross it out without hesitation A fake country, a raw materials appendage country, a rogue country. What dominance? Now the question is - will this state formation remain on the map or will it fall apart into many independent republics ...
2. 21st century - the century of sunset of the hydrocarbon era. Thermonuclear fusion, green energy and so on - will replace 90% of the rest. The internal combustion engine still remains in the field of heavy vehicles and shipbuilding, but this is also a question for 20-30 years, if not less. Everything else migrates to electric motors.
3. Do you know who is the largest investor in the development of green technologies and alternative energy? UAE! They are leaders in renewable energy... They have a $27 billion Dubai Green Energy Fund. it is necessary to lay the foundation of a new era, the era of alternative energy...

[RockBell]

One of the best choices every country can make right now is to switch to green energy, which is part of the Sustainable Development Goals. It has been one of the strategies developed by experts to protect the world, but the challenge right now is that the project has been very expensive to implement. It started with trying to get rid of fossil fuel vehicles and developing electric cars, but not everyone can afford them. Now the issue with solar generating electricity, which not all countries can afford, the vision is good but lacks resources, especially for my region, countries like Russia, China, the USA, and many more to some extent have the resources.

[Hydrogen]

The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.

Green energy is mostly solar power.

Solar panels are made from processed silicon. Which is essentially sand heated into glass. The barrier to entry for solar power may not be high. The issue behind most major nations of the world not becoming more involved in solar power likely has to do with lack of funding, skilled labor and expertise. Much of the existing technology behind patented solar based intellectual property has its origins in the united states. With production being moved to china in an effort to leverage lower labor costs.

In terms of efficiency, I think the advantage is with green energy given its potential for growth and scaling. Electric motors can reach 80%+ efficiency. While internal combustion engines are usually rated around 15% efficiency. The difference comes from fossil fuels having on average greater energy density as a fuel source.

It could be guaranteed that oil and fossil fuels would not last forever. At some point, we could be forced to abandon them or find alternatives when supply runs out. Perhaps its better to begin the transition now, rather than wait until its too late.

[Argoo]

Green energy is mostly solar power.

Solar panels are made from processed silicon. Which is essentially sand heated into glass. The barrier to entry for solar power may not be high. The issue behind most major nations of the world not becoming more involved in solar power likely has to do with lack of funding, skilled labor and expertise. Much of the existing technology behind patented solar based intellectual property has its origins in the united states. With production being moved to china in an effort to leverage lower labor costs.

In terms of efficiency, I think the advantage is with green energy given its potential for growth and scaling. Electric motors can reach 80%+ efficiency. While internal combustion engines are usually rated around 15% efficiency. The difference comes from fossil fuels having on average greater energy density as a fuel source.

It could be guaranteed that oil and fossil fuels would not last forever. At some point, we could be forced to abandon them or find alternatives when supply runs out. Perhaps its better to begin the transition now, rather than wait until its too late.

Of course, the future belongs to alternative energy sources and the most significant place among them is solar panels, the production of which is getting cheaper thanks to new technologies. So, scientists from the University of Rochester were able to develop a new method to increase the efficiency of the solar cell material. Silicon is usually used as the basis for solar panel development, because it is found in abundance in nature and has an excellent ability to convert sunlight into energy. However, the researchers decided to use in the development of panels a forgotten, but not lost relevance mineral - perovskite - a source of titanium, niobium and a number of other elements. It is quite famous for its crystal structure. If we use perovskite instead of silicon in solar panels, then the energy efficiency immediately triples. Probably, and this is far from the limit.

If technologies continue to improve further, then hydrocarbon energy sources can be forgotten. Of course, oil and gas can be used in various industries, up to the food industry, but not on the current huge scale. Therefore, Russia in this regard will lose its former significance and greatness.

[Smartprofit]

Currently, the transition to green energy has slowed down. 

This is due to two important factors. 

First, the global system of globalization has collapsed in the world.  It is possible to follow the path of scientific and technological progress very quickly if different countries cooperate with each other.  In an atmosphere of general suspicion and confrontation, this is much more difficult to do. 

Secondly, at present, the world has very high prices for traditional energy carriers. 

This forces countries to reduce investment in green energy, as money is spent on purchasing expensive natural gas and oil, building tankers that can transport liquefied gas, building gas storage facilities, etc.

[Hispo]

China do have lots of oil too though, seems like your version of events is just a China win regardless.

It would makes sense, I think. The Chinese government is rather in a comfortable position when comes to energy, they have some energy reserves, but also have Russia as ally which guarantee China a good supply of fuels in the long term, specially now that Russia needs to sell their energy to anyone they can. On the other hand, China also has much potential to move onto green energy if they wanted to, they have rare earths and they are already getting into the market of electrical vehicles.

But it is most plausible they stick to regular fuels in the long term, unlike Europe.

[o48o]

Green energy is mostly solar power.
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I would like to see some sources for this. From what i gather it's mostly hydropower and wind energy. Solar surely has been growing a lot but so far it's not been without challenges. I am certain at some point it won't be as expensive as panels gets more cheaper efficient and durable and maybe self-cleaning.

[tiCeR]

China do have lots of oil too though, seems like your version of events is just a China win regardless.

It would makes sense, I think. The Chinese government is rather in a comfortable position when comes to energy, they have some energy reserves, but also have Russia as ally which guarantee China a good supply of fuels in the long term, specially now that Russia needs to sell their energy to anyone they can. On the other hand, China also has much potential to move onto green energy if they wanted to, they have rare earths and they are already getting into the market of electrical vehicles.

But it is most plausible they stick to regular fuels in the long term, unlike Europe.

This is one reason why China isn't only mad about the war I suppose. They don't want a nuclear war, that is for sure, but if this war weakens other countries and even Russia, that helps China to get into an even better position for negotiations. The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia. The incentives all those different countries have are so complex especially in situations of war that it sometimes is hard to understand who wants what the most. In this case though I think China is already planning with sufficient resources from Russia.

[Hispo]

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The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia.

If you put it that way, it is easier to see. China may the only one who is indirectly benefiting from this messy situation.
The United States is sending billions of dollars in equipment to Ukraine.
Europe is losing cheap energy and struggling to transition, since need to go faster than expected.
Russia is getting sanctions and losing their soldiers.
Ukraine is losing soldiers as well and civilians.

China is getting cheap gas/oil, they just need to take care of their usual rivalry with USA.

[avikz]

It is easier said than done! Green energy is highly costly to set up so it needs a substantial upfront investment. Also, it is not very cost-effective for a highly populated country like China. EU can make it happen due to the small population and higher per capita income, but for countries like China, it's a distant dream unless they figure out a way to reduce the upfront investment to generate green energy.

As per some reports, US holds the highest oil reserve in the world, even bigger than Venezuela, Saudi, and Russia put together.

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-has-the-worlds-largest-oil-reserves-2016-7?IR=T

These are just hidden by the US government for now. Probably a long-term gameplan to maintain world dominance.

[jackg]

This is one reason why China isn't only mad about the war I suppose. They don't want a nuclear war, that is for sure, but if this war weakens other countries and even Russia, that helps China to get into an even better position for negotiations. The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia. The incentives all those different countries have are so complex especially in situations of war that it sometimes is hard to understand who wants what the most. In this case though I think China is already planning with sufficient resources from Russia.

It gets China in a good position militarily too, and might've decreased their chances of having an unstable boarder with Russia that doesn't favour them.

There were reports a lot of the "trained" Russian troops that have been mobalised to Ukraine have come from it's previous biggest militarised area (the border between it and China). It might serve as a reason for China to keep watching Russia become weak until a point they can either start taking land or resources at an even greater extent than they have been already.

[Gyfts]

The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.

Green energy is mostly solar power.

Solar panels are made from processed silicon. Which is essentially sand heated into glass. The barrier to entry for solar power may not be high. The issue behind most major nations of the world not becoming more involved in solar power likely has to do with lack of funding, skilled labor and expertise. Much of the existing technology behind patented solar based intellectual property has its origins in the united states. With production being moved to china in an effort to leverage lower labor costs.

In terms of efficiency, I think the advantage is with green energy given its potential for growth and scaling. Electric motors can reach 80%+ efficiency. While internal combustion engines are usually rated around 15% efficiency. The difference comes from fossil fuels having on average greater energy density as a fuel source.

It could be guaranteed that oil and fossil fuels would not last forever. At some point, we could be forced to abandon them or find alternatives when supply runs out. Perhaps its better to begin the transition now, rather than wait until its too late.

Nuclear energy is one of the most efficient forms of energy there is with modern nuclear technology but the climate change radicals sometimes don't consider that to be a viable option for whatever reason.

EV's aren't part of the solution for clean energy consumption because of the raw materials needed to manufacture batteries and the fact that EV's are charged through fossil fuels. EV's just give people a temporary solution to a problem they've created. These people have not even considered whether electrical grids could handle the strain that EV's would introduce either.

If they were serious, they'd adopt nuclear energy.

[DrBeer]

China do have lots of oil too though, seems like your version of events is just a China win regardless.

It would makes sense, I think. The Chinese government is rather in a comfortable position when comes to energy, they have some energy reserves, but also have Russia as ally which guarantee China a good supply of fuels in the long term, specially now that Russia needs to sell their energy to anyone they can. On the other hand, China also has much potential to move onto green energy if they wanted to, they have rare earths and they are already getting into the market of electrical vehicles.

But it is most plausible they stick to regular fuels in the long term, unlike Europe.

This is one reason why China isn't only mad about the war I suppose. They don't want a nuclear war, that is for sure, but if this war weakens other countries and even Russia, that helps China to get into an even better position for negotiations. The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia. The incentives all those different countries have are so complex especially in situations of war that it sometimes is hard to understand who wants what the most. In this case though I think China is already planning with sufficient resources from Russia.

Yes, but with a few caveats.
1. Yes, China, "thanks" to the fact that Russia "shot itself in the foot", showing the whole world its fakeness in everything (from the economy to the quality of weapons and the army), let China into the bipolar world. And China no longer mentions Russia when it talks about a bipolar world. In his vision - in such a world there are 2 superstates - the USA and China, and the rest - should listen to them.
2. On the other hand, the total loss of Russia, for China, carries reputational and situational risks. China is very unhappy that Russia, with its terrorist attack on Ukraine, rallied the WEST, actually resurrected NATO, and restarted the military industry of the West.
That is why China now needs to weaken the forces of Russia as much as possible. Although Russia is an appendage of China, it can still provide some danger to China. Therefore, China comes forward with its "peace initiative", and they will offer to create support for Ukraine, sit down at the negotiating table, negotiate, and, well, obey China. Otherwise - the collapse, the total collapse of Russia - is very close. And then China will lose both the "guinea pig", and the "raw material appendage", and the puppet through which China can influence the international arena

[MoonOfLife]

If china and EU Will take over the world then rubles and dollars Will be Like simbawe dollars nobody really don't need it and oil countries economy Will fall down a lot.

Green energy, not as easy as you say and imagine, is used all over the world, even though some countries have abundant natural resources, apart from Green Energy requiring a large economy, other factors must also be considered.
Example:
Overall Green Energy has technical weaknesses for Green Energy and also other factors, such as required storage such as batteries so that they are not wasted, weather factors, because Green Energy is taken from various natural resources, plants, water and so on, not to mention the capacity of Green Energy users such as companies that require large amounts of electricity, I'm sure Green Energy can't handle all that.

China & EU can't shake the world, if you talk about Energy, oil and economy, the world has what China & EU don't have, they can't rule the world.

This is true, although people aim to create and use green energy, it also has many limitations and I believe it will never replace the current energy source. My country has built a lot of large windmills to generate wind energy, but in recent years they have found that blocking the direction of the wind creates a lot of weather instability that affects crops, is expensive to maintain...and they started dismantling it all.

[tiCeR]

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The more isolated Russia gets in the global economy, the cheaper can China get energy from Russia.

If you put it that way, it is easier to see. China may the only one who is indirectly benefiting from this messy situation.
The United States is sending billions of dollars in equipment to Ukraine.
Europe is losing cheap energy and struggling to transition, since need to go faster than expected.
Russia is getting sanctions and losing their soldiers.
Ukraine is losing soldiers as well and civilians.

China is getting cheap gas/oil, they just need to take care of their usual rivalry with USA.

This sounds like half of the story to me.

Europe is losing cheap energy, true. But it is also winning independence the price of which can't yet be fully known.

But what is it gaining? It is gaining credibility! That can't be converted into any currency, that is true. But as a citizen, I would love my administration to have principles and base lines that they live up to. This is what is happening.

[dansus021]

If you read or hear the news that most countries started to set goals of having zero carbon emissions by the set year. Including China as well. But It will happen in the next decade or even a couple of decades ahead.

But for now, they will fight for the energy like from the past of century. and what we can do for now is save energy as much as possible. good to us and good for the planet