Eu Cina vs USA russia oil vs Green energy

[DrBeer]

The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.
If russia wins then world Green energy not gona develope so easy.
But EU ally is china they both are good with Green energy.

If china and EU Will take over the world then rubles and dollars Will be Like simbawe dollars nobody really don't need it and oil countries economy Will fall down a lot.

And If war ends then russia and USA economy dont do so good neither the arab mirates like UEA.

But world moving towards Green energy so the safest bet might be crypto and EU china assets and stock market.

The USA and russia destiny is umkown and world moving towards Green energy.

China is Also more Green energy like.

I'll adjust your view of the situation a bit.

If I agree about the EU and China, especially the EU, I disagree about the US and Russia.
Here's the thing - oil is not a critical resource for the US - they have been selling it and will continue to sell it, and if demand decreases, nothing critical for the economy and business will happen.
But for Russia, it is a critical resource that forms almost half of the country's budget revenues. Oil and Gas - this is what Russia's economy was based on. In today's situation, Russia is doing its best to push the oil market up at least somehow. The reason is banal - supplies to the EU have decreased by 90% and will soon become invisible. There is nowhere to sell gas, as the gas transportation system is not flexible and backward.
The only thing left is to sell oil somehow. China and India buy oil at huge discounts, which means that the income from oil and gas tends to 0.... That is why we see what is happening - attempts to artificially raise the price, create an artificial frenzy and increase demand.

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[Vishnu.Reang]

In today's world with concern of oil shortage, everyone is moving towards green energy and every country is looking alternatives for oil. The world is moving towards Green energy is often referred to as clean, sustainable, or renewable energy. While Russia and U.S.A fighting over oil meanwhile China is increasing solar capacity.  China's solar capacity is now 228 gigawatts (GW), more than the rest of the world combined, according to Global Energy Monitor. I always appreciate this when several country started shift their focus on green energy, which is part of the Sustainable Development Goals.

[jaberwock]

USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.

Russia has made its own choice. No one forced her to attack Ukraine. The Kremlin hoped to capture Ukraine quickly, in a few days, even before the world came to its senses and did something in response. But the Ukrainians broke the Kremlin's plans with their stubborn resistance, and the United States and the NATO alliance as a whole successfully took advantage of this. The hands of the Ukrainians are now destroying the military power of the Russian "second army of the world", as well as sharply weakening its economy and increasing isolation from the outside world.
The war unleashed by Russia will accelerate the transition of many countries to alternative energy sources and help to somehow avoid the consequences of abrupt climate change on our planet.

They think Ukraine looks weak because of their innocence but they are wrong. This country fought even though they know that Russia is strong. What made them more encouraged to defend their country is that the world is supporting them. The US and the NATO only did a punishment towards Russia in the form of sanction.

It's normal when some countries do an inappropriate act to the other like what Russia did. They are not taking an advantage there. The act did by Russia seems like a blessing in disguise as you said. Another benefit of using an alternative energy is that they also cost less. The only downside is they are not that reliable.

[o48o]

Green energy is mostly solar power.

Solar panels are made from processed silicon. Which is essentially sand heated into glass. The barrier to entry for solar power may not be high. The issue behind most major nations of the world not becoming more involved in solar power likely has to do with lack of funding, skilled labor and expertise. Much of the existing technology behind patented solar based intellectual property has its origins in the united states. With production being moved to china in an effort to leverage lower labor costs.

In terms of efficiency, I think the advantage is with green energy given its potential for growth and scaling. Electric motors can reach 80%+ efficiency. While internal combustion engines are usually rated around 15% efficiency. The difference comes from fossil fuels having on average greater energy density as a fuel source.

It could be guaranteed that oil and fossil fuels would not last forever. At some point, we could be forced to abandon them or find alternatives when supply runs out. Perhaps its better to begin the transition now, rather than wait until its too late.

I am not sure what sources you use but every official link i can google says that main source for green energy is hydropower. While Solar could offer a lot it isn't used for the reasons you provided. Panels need cleaning and they break easily. Even wind farms are providing way more energy than solar, and those wind power stations are increasing rapidly.

[DrBeer]

USA would not let an oil producing country grow
They did it with Iraq and Iran and now with Russia - Since Russia is a powerful state they did it the other way.

Russia has made its own choice. No one forced her to attack Ukraine. The Kremlin hoped to capture Ukraine quickly, in a few days, even before the world came to its senses and did something in response. But the Ukrainians broke the Kremlin's plans with their stubborn resistance, and the United States and the NATO alliance as a whole successfully took advantage of this. The hands of the Ukrainians are now destroying the military power of the Russian "second army of the world", as well as sharply weakening its economy and increasing isolation from the outside world.
The war unleashed by Russia will accelerate the transition of many countries to alternative energy sources and help to somehow avoid the consequences of abrupt climate change on our planet.

They think Ukraine looks weak because of their innocence but they are wrong. This country fought even though they know that Russia is strong. What made them more encouraged to defend their country is that the world is supporting them. The US and the NATO only did a punishment towards Russia in the form of sanction.

It's normal when some countries do an inappropriate act to the other like what Russia did. They are not taking an advantage there. The act did by Russia seems like a blessing in disguise as you said. Another benefit of using an alternative energy is that they also cost less. The only downside is they are not that reliable.

The great advantage of alternative energy (hydroelectric power plants, solar energy, wind farms, tidal power plants, etc.) is that this technology actually cannot be monopolized and MANIPULATED for the benefit of any group. Components for these solutions are produced by many countries, with different technologies and different resource requirements. But oil and gas, for example, can be blackmailed ("we will raise the price, deliberately"), or economic terror can be committed ("we'll raise the price").

[el kaka22]

Green energy is the way to go for the future and considering how terrible our weather is doing and how climate is at all time worst situation, that is a proof that we are getting to a point where we just can't do anything too make it better anymore.

Literally on the verge of irreversible damage and we still don't care, I do not know why we do not care, I do not know why "it will get better" mindset is winning, I do not care the main reason why they haven't stopped everything and focused on this, but one thing is known, we are going to live in desert like places where water levels rising caused a lot of floods and there are no water sources which will make half of population dead, and the other starving or thirsty at all times.

[Ozero]

In my opinion, even China will not be able to capture all of Russia. 

First, the Chinese army has no combat experience.  In practice, the Chinese army may prove to be an ineffective structure (even taking into account its large numbers). 

At one time (until February 24, 2024), I listened to Strelkov-Girkin's arguments about how he planned to annex the territory of Ukraine to Russia.  And I understood from his words that in order to manage and control such a large territory, a lot of people are needed - soldiers, policemen, etc. 

And this is subject to the complete destruction of the regular army. 

And in order to capture and control such a vast territory as Russia, such a huge army of security forces is needed, which even China does not have. 

By the way, this is one of the reasons why foreign intervention against the young Russian Republic at the beginning of the 20th century failed.

There is no need for China to seize all of Russia by force. It is Russia that is accustomed to solving almost all issues by force and coercion. This, of course, requires a very large number of police and army soldiers. Modern China in relation to Russia will most likely act by economic methods in which the population of Russia itself will voluntarily cooperate with China and the Chinese, since it will be economically beneficial for them. Why conquer by force a backward Russia with conditions of life and life, if this can be done almost completely peacefully, demonstrating that in alliance with China, the citizens of Russia will live better?

[DrBeer]

Green energy is the way to go for the future and considering how terrible our weather is doing and how climate is at all time worst situation, that is a proof that we are getting to a point where we just can't do anything too make it better anymore.

Literally on the verge of irreversible damage and we still don't care, I do not know why we do not care, I do not know why "it will get better" mindset is winning, I do not care the main reason why they haven't stopped everything and focused on this, but one thing is known, we are going to live in desert like places where water levels rising caused a lot of floods and there are no water sources which will make half of population dead, and the other starving or thirsty at all times.

I'll give you my opinion. It's not about ecology. Ecology is the subject of a separate, big conversation. There are a lot of fantasies, a lot of manipulations, etc....
The problem with LIMITED hydrocarbon reserves is that they become a tool for blackmail, manipulation, and other very bad things. Alternative energy has no points of "exclusivity" and therefore it gives freedom and security to the economy of most countries. It is very easy to simulate a situation when the opponents of the free world, for example, conclude a treaty and stop oil production and sales for 12 months (yes, it sounds fantastic for many reasons, but it is possible to imagine). What would be the result ? From total collapse of economies of many countries, to internal huge discontent, which will be taken advantage of by not the best people....
Alternative energy - has no such "failure points" - no one can stop the wind, sunlight, tides, .....
So for me alternative energy is no longer about ecology, it is more about world economy and security !

[davis196]

The economic fight is over power in the world.
Eu and china want to move over Green energy.
The russia and USA power Will be dominant if old oil is king Same goes for AE arab countries.
Eu and china are much more advanched in green energy then russia or USA.
If russia wins then world Green energy not gona develope so easy.
But EU ally is china they both are good with Green energy.

USA is pretty advanced when it comes to green energy. I don't know where to do you get your info from.
This isn't about "green energy vs. conventional energy". It's about energy diversification. China is developing green energy, but they still use lots of oil and coal. The same thing applies to USA. I highly doubt that China and USA are going to get rid of oil and coal in the next decades.
What do you mean by "if Russia wins"? If Russia wins the war in Ukraine? The development of green power plants around the world has nothing to do with the outcome of the war in Ukraine. The EU isn't ally with China, the EU is dependent of China, because China has lots of raw materials for solar panels and China is a major manufacturer of solar panels.

[Argoo]

In today's world with concern of oil shortage, everyone is moving towards green energy and every country is looking alternatives for oil. The world is moving towards Green energy is often referred to as clean, sustainable, or renewable energy. While Russia and U.S.A fighting over oil meanwhile China is increasing solar capacity.  China's solar capacity is now 228 gigawatts (GW), more than the rest of the world combined, according to Global Energy Monitor. I always appreciate this when several country started shift their focus on green energy, which is part of the Sustainable Development Goals.

In recent years, all of us have seen and felt on our own bodies how quickly the climate on our planet is changing and what dangers this threatens us with. Scientists have long warned humanity about this. But this is how a person works: if he does not see it directly and really, then he will not do anything. The situation has already become directly catastrophic and this will push us very sharply to switch to alternative energy sources. Oil and gas can become raw materials for the chemical industry and will be used less and less as a direct source of energy. I think that soon it will be enshrined in international norms. Therefore, Russia will lose its current advantage in the energy sector.