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February 18, 2023, 08:13:20 AM
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i will transfer about $300k tether from my trustwallet to coinbase wallet using either erc or trc.
if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?

there is no way he have access to my private keys but i am reading some weird things and wonder if is possible. i am also aware in that case everyone have access to wallet addresses steal and it will be chaos but maybe there is something that i dont know and i want to make sure.

i dont know if it matters or not but to coinbase wallet is newly created wallet

thx for your help
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February 18, 2023, 08:33:02 AM
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This thread does not belong to bitcoin development & technical discussion.

As long as the person do not know your seed phrase or private key, he has no access to your wallet by knowing just the time of transaction and your address.

Also avoid malware.

Also avoid address poisoning.

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February 18, 2023, 10:14:48 AM
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There's no cryptographic/on chain risk of this.

You can have funds intercepted in your wallet via malware though such as clipboard hijacking (where what you copy gets changed before pasting it in the wallet).
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February 18, 2023, 11:09:08 AM
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i will transfer about $300k tether from my trustwallet to coinbase wallet using either erc or trc.
if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?

there is no way he have access to my private keys but i am reading some weird things and wonder if is possible. i am also aware in that case everyone have access to wallet addresses steal and it will be chaos but maybe there is something that i dont know and i want to make sure.

i dont know if it matters or not but to coinbase wallet is newly created wallet

thx for your help

First of all I would advise you change wallet from a third party based like Coinbase as that is a third party wallet which can turn offline any day and you can forget about your coins as that saying says "Not your keys,not your coins".

Having said that,the other thing has been already explained that if you use Windows (I don't know about Mac) it is always best to double check the address where you are sending your funds even if it is one of your addresses as there is this malware that changes this to the hacker address,so far in Linux I am not aware of such vulnerability.

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February 18, 2023, 11:28:02 AM
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They only know it if they know it and there's not that risk on it unless they know you personally and might attack you with a $5 wrench which is known as the $5 wrench attack.
Other than that, what you can think of is usually when these exchanges sees that you've made such transactions, that might cause them a trigger and you might get asked for some more verifications.
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February 18, 2023, 11:46:40 AM
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there is no way he have access to my private keys but i am reading some weird things and wonder if is possible.

Care to show some examples the weird things you have read? I think you are having a misconception about most of it.

if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?

ETH enforced OFAC-compliant block, if your fund is somehow tainted with bad stuff that violates some regulation, it could be censored. Do also note, some stablecoins have a feature to freeze funds, so it is another possibility. Overall, A general or even the most sophisticated hacker can't do much with only the address and time of the transactions.

First of all I would advise you change wallet from a third party based like Coinbase as that is a third party wallet which can turn offline any day and you can forget about your coins as that saying says "Not your keys,not your coins".

Coinbase Wallet is a self-custodial wallet, as they have claimed. So as long OP keeps the seed phrases secure, it should be able to be exported to other wallets. Also, Coinbase Wallet is not a third-party wallet, I'm not even sure what you mean by a third-party-based wallet.
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February 18, 2023, 06:09:43 PM
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i will transfer about $300k tether from my trustwallet to coinbase wallet using either erc or trc.
if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?

there is no way he have access to my private keys but i am reading some weird things and wonder if is possible. i am also aware in that case everyone have access to wallet addresses steal and it will be chaos but maybe there is something that i dont know and i want to make sure.

i dont know if it matters or not but to coinbase wallet is newly created wallet

thx for your help

Well if they can get a hold of your phone and or laptop because they have installed backdoor on it, then maybe they can steal your coins.

But if you have total control of private keys, then it will be good. However, don't just sit and be confident that there are no hackers that can get into your account. Just practice safe security, always put a password on your wallet that is hard to guess and your seed should not be be saved in your mobile phone or laptop.

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February 18, 2023, 06:37:52 PM
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i will transfer about $300k tether from my trustwallet to coinbase wallet using either erc or trc.
if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?

there is no way he have access to my private keys but i am reading some weird things and wonder if is possible. i am also aware in that case everyone have access to wallet addresses steal and it will be chaos but maybe there is something that i dont know and i want to make sure.

i dont know if it matters or not but to coinbase wallet is newly created wallet

thx for your help

First of all I would advise you change wallet from a third party based like Coinbase as that is a third party wallet which can turn offline any day and you can forget about your coins as that saying says "Not your keys,not your coins".

Having said that,the other thing has been already explained that if you use Windows (I don't know about Mac) it is always best to double check the address where you are sending your funds even if it is one of your addresses as there is this malware that changes this to the hacker address,so far in Linux I am not aware of such vulnerability.

Agreed unless you are going to send there just to flip it into something else that's fine, but people NEED to stop using exchanges as wallets, at least for a good portion of their portfolio.  I just don't get it.  If sent to coinbase I'd flip it into whatever you want then pull immediately off the site.  In terms of intercepting your transaction I don't under stand.  If they have access to your private keys then yep they do but your public Addy being known won't cause any harm.
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February 18, 2023, 07:47:52 PM
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i will transfer about $300k tether from my trustwallet to coinbase wallet using either erc or trc.
if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?

I am not really an IT or blockchain expert but i don't think, that there is any way that a hacker can do anything to access your tokens or coins while they are transfered within the blockchain because to do that this would actually mean that the hacker could access the blockchain itself and if that would ever happen to a chain then this would be the absolute worst case and that blockchain would be dead instantly because it could not be used anymore.
The only thing than can happen is that someone gets access to one of your wallets and once the tokens have arrived they just take them and send them to their own wallet, but for that you also have to make a lot of mistakes before, like saving your private key on your PC and then the PC gets hacked or infested by a virus or something.
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February 18, 2023, 08:30:37 PM
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i will transfer about $300k tether from my trustwallet to coinbase wallet using either erc or trc.
if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?

there is no way he have access to my private keys but i am reading some weird things and wonder if is possible. i am also aware in that case everyone have access to wallet addresses steal and it will be chaos but maybe there is something that i dont know and i want to make sure.

i dont know if it matters or not but to coinbase wallet is newly created wallet

thx for your help
With the wallet address anyone can see the history but not possible to get those funds into their wallets no matter what unless they infect your trust wallet and replace their address while you're making the transaction so be careful with receipient address and amount you want to send to it twice or thrice before clicking send, cause once send its irreversible forever.

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February 18, 2023, 08:42:20 PM
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Firstly if someone can actually know your sending wallet and also the time of your wallet it goes to show how irresponsible you are and this may just be an avenue for you to get scammed.

Although those information aren’t enough for you to get scammed if you have the correct receiver address then it would go through, but I am skeptical that you would be insensitive enough to give out such informations.
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February 18, 2023, 08:55:33 PM
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I don't know how a stranger can know your wallet address and transaction time? Is it only a close friend of yours?
However, even if he knew, he wouldn't be able to do anything unless he had access to your wallet or private key.
Also if you want to transfer this large amount of money I recommend you to use a hard wallet instead of coinbase.

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February 18, 2023, 09:16:49 PM
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There’s no way to hack this transaction if you are sure about the security of your wallet and I suggest to deposit little by little so you can know if your account is compromise or not. Also, use the highest security option in coinsbase and do your KYC because that is a huge money and to avoid being questioned.

Anyway, why transfer to coinbase? Are you going to trade or just hold there? Because exchange wallet is not safe at all.

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February 18, 2023, 09:23:32 PM
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Clipboard hack is the only one I can think of that can compromise transfers from one address to another. Well, if someone has your private keys that works too, but I haven't really heard of a man in the middle (MITM) attack on cryptocurrencies and I guess that's what you're trying to say here. Or it could be a reverse transaction exploit, but that can easily done by anyone nowadays and isn't really much of a hack. Anyway, the algorithms involved in transfers of funds from one address to another is cryptographically secure, so you should not worry about your coins being hijacked along the way.

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February 18, 2023, 09:43:37 PM
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If its already on the blockchain, I don’t think it can still be hacked but my worry here is that coinbase might see this as suspicious especially your account is still new and with that big money, it can hit the red flag which can put you on a bigger risk. If there’s no need to transfer that one time, better to divide it and don’t go all in to coinbase, trust wallet is already a good and secured wallet so make sure to protect it as well.
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February 18, 2023, 09:58:06 PM
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i will transfer about $300k tether from my trustwallet to coinbase wallet using either erc or trc.
if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?

there is no way he have access to my private keys but i am reading some weird things and wonder if is possible. i am also aware in that case everyone have access to wallet addresses steal and it will be chaos but maybe there is something that i dont know and i want to make sure.

i dont know if it matters or not but to coinbase wallet is newly created wallet

thx for your help
You do not explain us why you want to transfer your coins to coinbase, if you want to buy some bitcoin and ethereum that is all right, but at some point you need to transfer those coins to a wallet you control and with 300k in assets then you need a hardware wallet, it seems you are afraid of the many different ways in which you could be hacked and I would guess you lack the experience to protect your computer as you should, so get a hardware wallet and forget about most of those issues, as you are a big enough target for hackers out there.
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February 18, 2023, 10:39:41 PM
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There are certain ways where a transaction can be hacked or hijacked.  There are malware that can change the pasted address  so that is one of the proof that wallet tranfer can be hack or hijack.  The best way to avoid this is to always double check the address that we pasted.  Other than that, I do not think that there is another way of hacking or hijacking a transfer.

If its already on the blockchain, I don’t think it can still be hacked but my worry here is that coinbase might see this as suspicious especially your account is still new and with that big money, it can hit the red flag which can put you on a bigger risk. If there’s no need to transfer that one time, better to divide it and don’t go all in to coinbase, trust wallet is already a good and secured wallet so make sure to protect it as well.

It can be hack if someone got your private key. But I think @OP is asking another thing about being hack while transferring a casino from one address to another.
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February 18, 2023, 10:58:16 PM
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i will transfer about $300k tether from my trustwallet to coinbase wallet using either erc or trc.
if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?

Only the wallet addresses? everyone can do that randomly, get two wallet addresses in any blockchain, but they can't do anything about it.

there is no way he have access to my private keys but i am reading some weird things and wonder if is possible. i am also aware in that case everyone have access to wallet addresses steal and it will be chaos but maybe there is something that i dont know and i want to make sure.

i dont know if it matters or not but to coinbase wallet is newly created wallet

thx for your help

Hackers can get or steal your crypto if they know your private key, mnemonic phrase in a wallet that you have control of, known as non-custodial. Coinbase wallet on the other hand is custodial, meaning all control is with Coinbase.

So if by chance, they known your password on that account, then obviously they can steal it right away from you.

 
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February 18, 2023, 11:39:15 PM
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i will transfer about $300k tether from my trustwallet to coinbase wallet using either erc or trc.
if some one knows my both wallet address and time of the transaction; any how can that person do something about that transaction? steal, hack, freeze the account etc?
during the transaction or after?
None can do something with your transactions. The transactions can't be reverted or disrupted. The only thing that can happen when the blockchain gets down and your transaction got stuck but this is an impossible thing to happen for sure. You shall not worry about that. As long as you were sending to the right address of your coinbase address and it must be fine.



there is no way he have access to my private keys but i am reading some weird things and wonder if is possible. i am also aware in that case everyone have access to wallet addresses steal and it will be chaos but maybe there is something that i dont know and i want to make sure.

i dont know if it matters or not but to coinbase wallet is newly created wallet

thx for your help
The possible thing is when you were randomly signing transaction for token that has already sent as dusting attack for your address. Never try to touch any suspicious token in your wallet.

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February 19, 2023, 10:19:46 AM
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There are certain ways where a transaction can be hacked or hijacked.  There are malware that can change the pasted address  so that is one of the proof that wallet tranfer can be hack or hijack.  The best way to avoid this is to always double check the address that we pasted.  Other than that, I do not think that there is another way of hacking or hijacking a transfer.
For the first one or about the malwares, make sure we already installed a strong anti-virus and then they must always be updated so that they can scan our devices for available malwares and other threats. Yet we must not be confident but we should always make it a practice to re-check the receivers address if it's a correct one or not.

To be able to do this in an efficient way, I check a few characters on the beginning and on the last part of a crypto wallet address. On the second one or about the private keys, make sure we avoid sites or transactions which requires us to paste our private keys because they are obviously a scam. We should also store our private keys offline. Transacting big amount is also fine as long as you know to your self that you are clean and free from illegal transactions in the past.
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