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February 18, 2023, 04:42:38 PM
Last edit: April 12, 2023, 02:00:50 PM by DaveF
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I just noticed that Keystone and a few others actually have their name on the seed plate:






There are others but these were the 1st images I could quickly dig up.

Why don't you just put a layer of bright orange enamel on the outside and print valuable stuff inside on it.

OK, I think it's a bit much to have your logo on something that is supposed to be safe / hidden while holding something valuable.
I just bought one for a friend and saw the logo and was thinking WTF???

Just me or do others agree?

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February 18, 2023, 04:54:37 PM
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I agree with you, and I don't like it either. I remember seeing one brand of metal seed plates with a company logo and a website address like save . bitcoin . com or something similar. That's just ridiculous. A thief might not know what he is holding in his hands if he comes across a piece of steel with some weird words stamped on it. If you discover you have been robbed, you could move your coins by the time they figure it out. But you are definitely making it easier for them by engraving the words "save" and "bitcoin" on the thing.  

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February 18, 2023, 07:16:04 PM
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It's their way of promoting what they're trying to sell, but I agree with you that the company's logo must be hidden inside instead of being visible.
Why not make a pocket of fabric and thus hide it?

Such tools are not useful because of their moving parts. If the Metal Seed is poured or exposed to high temperatures, they may fail to retain the seeds or some parts of the words may be pivoted. See this photo

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February 18, 2023, 07:30:05 PM
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It's their way of promoting what they're trying to sell, but I agree with you that the company's logo must be hidden inside instead of being visible.
Why not make a pocket of fabric and thus hide it?

Such tools are not useful because of their moving parts. If the Metal Seed is poured or exposed to high temperatures, they may fail to retain the seeds or some parts of the words may be pivoted. See this photo

- Yamane

Some are good / some are bad: https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/

But the point remains, the one I use looks like nothing more then a metal bracket holding something together. Which technically you can do with these by putting the logo-ed side towards the thing you are bolting it to. But if you are not hiding it, just putting it someplace 'safe' them having a logo is just not a good idea.

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February 18, 2023, 07:39:45 PM
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OK, I think it's a bit much to have your logo on something that is supposed to be safe / hidden while holding something valuable.
I just bought one for a friend and saw the logo and was thinking WTF???

I think that all the businesses are proudly putting their logo on their products, no matter how (in)appropriate it is  Cheesy
I've said it on Willi's thread too. These look to me more like collectibles. More like nice things to show off.
If one wants to hide their stuff on steel, I think that the best idea I've seen on this forum was the use of washers.

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February 18, 2023, 10:37:28 PM
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I just noticed that Keystone and a few others actually have their name on the seed plate
I had one similar seed phrase backup and I don't like that system Keystone is using, with separate letters and screws.
Yes it's stainless steel, but in Jameson Lopp testing this kind of metal backup plates never got higher grade ratings.

Why don't you just put a layer of bright orange enamel on the outside and print valuable stuff inside on it.

OK, I think it's a bit much to have your logo on something that is supposed to be safe / hidden while holding something valuable.
I just bought one for a friend and saw the logo and was thinking WTF???
What did you expect to receive?
You are not going to receive blank plate when you are purchasing accessories from brand hardware wallet, but I think you can easily use sand paper for that or permanent market.
However, it's much better to purchase regular stainless steel washers, add your own seed words and pay ten times less money.

I am not advertising anything, but OneKey is offering interesting and unique aircraft-grade titanium alloy based solution, that only have only minimal logo that looks like 01.
https://onekey.so/products/onekey-keytag


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February 19, 2023, 03:06:28 PM
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What did you expect to receive?
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It's funny I really don't know what I was expecting. The last ones I have been using are similar to the onekey link you posted except they had drill holes in it so can make it look like a bracket. Picked them up a DefCon a few years ago.

I ordered this one for a friend to go with the hardware wallet I made him get and it was more like the ones I posted pictures of. I know they are not as good as the punched titanium ones but since it's the 3rd backup it's good enough. But as I said I really did not expect the logo on it. Don't know why since it's clearly in the picture. As others have said it's common.

<shrug> It's now bolted somewhere in his house logo side in so it just looks like a cheap repair. (which it might be too but that's not the point here....)

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February 19, 2023, 07:26:34 PM
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But if you are not hiding it, just putting it someplace 'safe' them having a logo is just not a good idea.

-Dave
Why not try CRYPTOSTEEL CAPSULE SOLO it takes up less space, does not carry a logo, and can be easily hidden.Click to see image
and you can buy something like this from ebay without any logo  Click to see image

There are some services that provide you with templates to hide these Metals in the form of a book, a cup of tea, a souvenir photo, a pen and many other forms. If you are interested, you can give you links to some of these services.

- Yamane

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