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[Rikafip]

The fact that Russian local is the only one with a special board just for HYIP scams always baffled me. I mean, who would want to have something like that in your local board that produces nothing but spam and and add absolutely no value? Imho, that cesspool should be closed and all those who want to promote that crap can do it in Investor-based games board where that stuff is usually shared.

Is there some post in your local board that explains the reasoning behind creating board just for that? Were other boards spammed with this so it was the way to contain them in one place or something along those lines?

[Rikafip]

This is the only section in the Russian locale in which a stream of shit flows. Even in the politics section, the posts are more relevant and valuable than in the HYIPs section.

Let me guess; you tried reporting those posts in the past and reports were marked as bad, right? If Ann thread bumping spam is deleted I see no reason why this shouldn't be either, but this is just one of those things on bitcointalk that doesn't make much sense.

I think that problem here might be that even your own admin thinks that those are legit posts made by genuine users and not bots, even though its pretty obvious what's going on there.

You misunderstood, these users are not rewarded for their posts in this thread. They post reports about received remunerations in HYIP projects, in which they participate. Also rewards from Profit-Hunters BIZ project for participation in various quizzes, referral rewards and rewards received in various bounties. Thus, they confirm that these projects are not some kind of scams, but normally working projects where you can earn money.

[xandry]

The fact that Russian local is the only one with a special board just for HYIP scams always baffled me. I mean, who would want to have something like that in your local board that produces nothing but spam and and add absolutely no value? Imho, that cesspool should be closed and all those who want to promote that crap can do it in Investor-based games board where that stuff is usually shared.

Is there some post in your local board that explains the reasoning behind creating board just for that? Were other boards spammed with this so it was the way to contain them in one place or something along those lines?

This is quite an interesting topic for conversation... This is all the inheritance of the first moderator, under whom the structure of the Russian-speaking subforum was created.
Most of the subforums in the Russian-speaking section were created 12 years ago.

There was also a whole subsection for the trashcan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=92.0
Great, right? When users lost messages in the entire forum after deleting topics, users in our section did not lose anything.

Personally, I don't understand the logic, but we still have a separate section for coders (never been popular): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=66.0

A separate section for ideas! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=90.0
There you can discuss what has not yet been implemented. Have you seen this anywhere else?

A separate section for job search (never been popular too): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=185.0

The section of discussion and announcements of services is called "business": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=23.0
This word has a fairly broad meaning in the Russian language and a historical coloring, so for many years we have had to explain to people why this section is for, why it is necessary to create topics in it if you want to talk about your service. Many people simply bypass this section because of the name.


A few years after the first moderator left, we managed to create several subsections, but a lot of user requests remain in the plans. Bitcointalk sometimes reminds me of sloths from a cartoon... Zootopia: Meet the Sloth

[The Sceptical Chymist]

The fact that Russian local is the only one with a special board just for HYIP scams always baffled me.

A lot of scams originate from Russia from what I hear, but their targets aren't Russian AFAIK.  So while a scammy section like that would seem appropriate in the Russian board, it kinda doesn't.  Nor is Russia the only place where scams are prevalent.

Ratimov, I support your request 100% and appreciate your description of a section that I never visit because I don't speak the language.  I often forget there are lots of local boards with their own unique communities.

If theymos wants he can do tests and see whether doing something about those spam bots (from locking those few topics to maybe even banning them) would stop the garbage accumulate.
If not, he can properly contain that area, in a way or another, but preferably also mark it as "Warning, this is a dump, hence pests and diseases may find their home here; watch your steps!".
Makes more sense?

Sounds to me from what Ratimov said that the whole section is not only bot-infested but pretty much dead anyway.  The best option would be to just nuke it, no?

[Rikafip]

Bitcointalk sometimes reminds me of slow people from a cartoon...

So you want to say that even you as a mod can't really speed up that process of getting new child boards/locking the useless ones? If that's true, it sucks big time.

So while a scammy section like that would seem appropriate in the Russian board, it kinda doesn't.  Nor is Russia the only place where scams are prevalent.

Exactly. But for some reason Russian local board is the only one that created a safe place for them to spam their useless bot-like crap.

[xandry]

So you want to say that even you as a mod can't really speed up that process of getting new child boards/locking the useless ones? If that's true, it sucks big time.

Yes, there is a special topic for requests to change the structure of sections and I raise it periodically. Often even without any hope.

[NeuroticFish]

Sounds to me from what Ratimov said that the whole section is not only bot-infested but pretty much dead anyway.  The best option would be to just nuke it, no?

I thought that he's exaggerating, that's why I came wit other possible idea/direction too. Now, after xandry showing the full picture I'm no longer that sure and indeed, nuke may be just the right direction.

[NeuroticFish]

Makes more sense?

No.

I've already admitted I was wrong, one post above yours.
xandry has shown a clearer picture/context I didn't know. And in that new light I already said that indeed nuke may indeed be the right direction.
So... should I remove my posts from this topic? It would make some answers useless, but if it would make you feel better, I'll do that.

LE: I've removed most of them; if anybody wants to find them, he can, easily. Next time I'll be more careful in sharing you ideas.

[Pmalek]

Sounds to me from what Ratimov said that the whole section is not only bot-infested but pretty much dead anyway. The best option would be to just nuke it, no?

But does that ever happen on Bitcointalk? Do we have examples of child-boards being deleted completely because they aren't as popular as they once were? I would love if this forum had zero tolerance for scams, but since that isn't the case, then we shouldn't do anything about it. If it becomes impossible to post such crap in the Russian board, why are all kinds of scam projects allowed in the altcoin boards or the Investor/HYIP-based sub? Get rid of them all or don't do anything.

As for bot activity, the bounty reports are bot activity. You have examples of bots still posting their Facebook and Twitter reports months after the bounty ended and nothing is being done about it.